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View Full Version : Stargate Atlantis - Cancelled!


JamesDFarrow
08-21-08, 07:28 AM
News item here:

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/08/istargate_atlantisi_will_end_thi.shtml

James

starman9000
08-21-08, 07:32 AM
That sucks. It wasn't my favorite show, but I enjoyed it. Hopefully they can put a hurry on Stargate Universe so it can be on soon.

wmansir
08-21-08, 08:13 AM
Sucks, even though I can't say I've been very happy with the show lately.

lisadoris
08-21-08, 08:32 AM
I haven't been too happy with the show lately either but the decision is kinda disappointing.

Michael Corvin
08-21-08, 08:32 AM
I've only seen up through season 3, it was good, but never great. Hopefully this paves the way for the Stargate: Universe show and ongoing SG-1 movies.

starman9000
08-21-08, 08:40 AM
The worst thing is this kills the possibility of them finally ditching Teyla and turning Atlantis into a very good show.

Superman07
08-21-08, 09:12 AM
This is somewhat of a shame. Admittedly I only watched the premier this year and nothing since.

I really feel like this is a failure and a setback to the SG universe and future projects. The idea of Atlantis was good, but the following were some of the problems they never resolved from the start or created for themselves:

1) Teyla. I don't know if it was the writing, acting or a combination, but the character never worked. The character always came across to me as morally righteous and it was annoying.

2) Technology. I firmly believe that suddenly being able to travel to and from Earth was a mistake. Yes there may have been half a season where they had to "wait" a week on some of the ships, but really...

3) Number 2 leads to number 3, which is no sense of danger. Their technological superiority let them overcome the Wraith within 2 seasons. The Wraith were such a shot in the arm as a formidable nemisis after the Goul'd had been taken care of. Plus death was more of a consequence than domination of the galaxy before.

4) Characters. They hardly developed! Sunday (317) may have been the best episode of the series to show what should have been. Unfortunately, I think it was meant as a one-off filler episode. And what of Ford? How do you bring somebody in from the start and not know what to do with him? Also, while Shep has the least amount of complaints from me, I think it would have been good to see more of his backstory and how he struggles to take orders. This was alluded to very much in the premier with the Robert Patrick character, but never followed up with.

Sean O'Hara
08-21-08, 11:01 AM
What the Stargate universe needs is a show in which the public knows about SGC. I mean, the number of people who know about the project is so high that it's a wonder they can still cover it up, and really don't the people have a right to know that we have a colony in another galaxy, and a fleet of starships? Plus having civilians using the Stargate system would add new dimensions.

Sean O'Hara
08-21-08, 11:30 AM
What the Stargate universe needs is a show in which the public knows about SGC. I mean, the number of people who know about the project is so high that it's a wonder they can still cover it up, and really don't the people have a right to know that we have a colony in another galaxy, and a fleet of starships? Plus having civilians using the Stargate system would add new dimensions.

Wolf359
08-21-08, 12:15 PM
Well this sucks. I'm guessing we can blame this at least partially on the success of the two SG-1 dvds. MGM/Sci Fi can now focus on their new SG Universe show while still making extra $$$ with Atlantis straight to dvd movies.

Wolf359
08-21-08, 12:16 PM
Well this sucks. I'm guessing we can blame this at least partially on the success of the two SG-1 dvds. MGM/Sci Fi can now focus on their new SG Universe show while still making extra $$$ with Atlantis straight to dvd movies.

Kittydreamer
08-21-08, 12:18 PM
NNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *runs off to cry*

McHawkson
08-21-08, 12:52 PM
Is there an echo in here? :hscratch:

Wolf359
08-21-08, 01:26 PM
^^^
Stupid DB errors and site running so slowly caused the double post and now I can't even edit it.

Cellar Door
08-21-08, 01:27 PM
I'll miss it, but not terribly. SG-1 was much better--they turned up the "cheese" way too much on Atlantis. Especially with the Wraith.
I like the Atlantis characters and would have actually preferred more Teyla instead of season after season of episodes In Which Rodney McKay Saves The Day At The Very Last Minute By Jerry-rigging Some Technological Doodad. Seriously, that describes about 80% of Atlantis scripts.

Perhaps Jewel Staite is cursed. Good lord, keep that girl away from Eureka!

riley_dude
08-21-08, 02:18 PM
Kinda sad but this show is all over the map in quality and can never seem to stay up there in entertaining episodes. Lots of mediocre episodes and then some really great ones. ?
I watch the show because I like the characters and I can get my weekly fix of Sci Fi but it never became a really great show and ejecting characters like Weir and keeping ones like Ronin has been a big mistake.

DJariya
08-21-08, 02:39 PM
I'm actually quite surprised that Sci-Fi is ending the series. I thought it was one of it's better performing series. I bet if Atlantis was produced by NBC-Universal instead of MGM, Sci-Fi would have kept it. But, the good news according to that article is the franchise isn't entirely dead and they will be making a series of TV movies instead.

I've been a fan since season 1 and I will miss seeing it in the summer and spring, but I won't cry about it as there is still hundreds of hours of other shows to keep me entertained.

WallyOPD
08-21-08, 03:00 PM
I'm more disappointed that there will be no more Stargate on the air than I am about Atlantis specifically. Hopefully the new spinoff will be a go.

riley_dude
08-21-08, 04:46 PM
This is the perfect opportunity to make some Farscape movies as well.

DJariya
08-21-08, 07:44 PM
I'm glad the franchise is still continuing in TV movie form, but I'd much rather have 20 hours of TV instead of 2 TV movies.

However, on the bright side I guess it will force the writers to write tighter scripts.

Kevin Phillips
08-21-08, 09:25 PM
I'll be sorry to see it go.

Now all I have on the sci-fi channel is BSG, and that'll be over in the not too distant future...

DJariya
08-21-08, 09:40 PM
I read somewhere that the weak American dollar and expensive special effects is part of the reason why the show is getting canned. Shows are actually more expensive to shoot in Canada now.

mikehunt
08-21-08, 09:46 PM
so, no SG and no BSG
ok, Dr Who will still be on but I never could get into it
so what else will they have worth watching?

DJariya
08-21-08, 09:55 PM
Amanda Tapping (Carter) has a new show called "Sanctuary" that is supposed to premiere in January.

Carlos Villa 3
08-21-08, 11:02 PM
So, besides Wrestling and Ghost Hunters exactly what the hell do you have left Sci-FI?
More reruns of Braveheart? Mansquito? Ice Spiders II?
Eureka will be to only sci-fi type show you'll have left. When are you cancelling it?

This pretty much kills off Sci-Fi for me. I don't bother watching their version of Doctor Who since they butcher it to add more commercials. I acquire by BBC copies through <cough> other means <cough>.

Nth Power
08-21-08, 11:27 PM
Crappy news. I really liked Atlantis. I think it's only Eureka left on Sci-Fi now.

HN
08-22-08, 01:51 AM
Stargate Universe is a go (http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/08/stargate-univer.html)

DJariya
08-22-08, 03:27 AM
I read that Universe is a very expensive project and I bet Sci-Fi told the producers you could only have 1 or the other on the air, but not both.

I'm glad that Atlantis will live on in TV movies, but I would love to see Shepherd make a guest appearance on Universe. You gotta use a familiar character to help launch the new series.

aynrandgirl
08-22-08, 05:24 AM
Stargate: Universe has the same basic plot as Space: 1999.

starman9000
08-22-08, 08:40 AM
Sounds like they are trying to take the Stargate out of Stargate.

Wolf359
08-22-08, 10:38 AM
Stargate Universe is a go (http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/08/stargate-univer.html)

From the article:

“This is an opportunity to reinvent this franchise and make it relevant to a new generation,” Howe said. “We really don’t want to be more of the same. It’s going to build clearly off the existing franchise but with a cast that gives it a younger vibe.”


I hate that "younger vibe" crap. Exactly how do you make a show about people jumping through wormholes relevant to a new generation? How was it relevant to us old folks?

Michael Corvin
08-22-08, 10:46 AM
It’s going to build clearly off the existing franchise but with a cast that gives it a younger vibe.

Stargate: 90210

Superman07
08-22-08, 11:26 AM
From the article:

“This is an opportunity to reinvent this franchise and make it relevant to a new generation,” Howe said. “We really don’t want to be more of the same. It’s going to build clearly off the existing franchise but with a cast that gives it a younger vibe.”


I hate that "younger vibe" crap. Exactly how do you make a show about people jumping through wormholes relevant to a new generation? How was it relevant to us old folks?

I agree. That's a cop-out. I haven't seen Continium yet, but I know it was a tie-in/launch. I didn't know it was becoming irrelivant. Plus, it feels like an excuse for them rather than continuing to produce a quality show and scripts.

starman9000
08-22-08, 11:29 AM
I agree. That's a cop-out. I haven't seen Continium yet, but I know it was a tie-in/launch.

Continuum isn't a tie-in/launch. It doesn't really wrap anything up or lead to anything new besides maybe the loss of one bad guy I liked it, but it's pretty much a one-off episode.

McHawkson
08-22-08, 11:39 AM
This Stargate: Universe sounds much like Star Trek: Voyager.

Wolf359
08-22-08, 12:08 PM
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skacore
08-22-08, 04:59 PM
Really sad news, no more Mckay, Ronon, Teyla, Shepherd!!!!!!!!!!!

The more I hear about Stargate Universe the less I want to watch. They just did the same thing with Spooks: Code 9....and its crap!!!!

Houstondon
08-22-08, 05:39 PM
Well this sucks. I'm guessing we can blame this at least partially on the success of the two SG-1 dvds. MGM/Sci Fi can now focus on their new SG Universe show while still making extra $$$ with Atlantis straight to dvd movies.
I wasn't under that impression. If anything, I think they expected the two movies to be more successful (and I agree with Starman's sentiments below).

I liked it, but it's pretty much a one-off episode.
Exactly!

Houstondon
08-22-08, 05:46 PM
This is somewhat of a shame. Admittedly I only watched the premier this year and nothing since.

I really feel like this is a failure and a setback to the SG universe and future projects. The idea of Atlantis was good, but the following were some of the problems they never resolved from the start or created for themselves:

1) Teyla. I don't know if it was the writing, acting or a combination, but the character never worked. The character always came across to me as morally righteous and it was annoying.
She was what amounts to their moral compass in terms of a connection to the Pegasus Galaxy. IE: insert American Indian stereotypes per the writers.

2) Technology. I firmly believe that suddenly being able to travel to and from Earth was a mistake. Yes there may have been half a season where they had to "wait" a week on some of the ships, but really...
I agree. One of the original draws of the show (and I've watched it since "Day One") was that they were cut off and unable to get help when needed so they would have to rely on their own ingenuity.

3) Number 2 leads to number 3, which is no sense of danger. Their technological superiority let them overcome the Wraith within 2 seasons. The Wraith were such a shot in the arm as a formidable nemisis after the Goul'd had been taken care of. Plus death was more of a consequence than domination of the galaxy before.
True and don't forget the souped up Replicators. The creators and writers seem to think the concept of "finding all the advanced societies that were hiding from the Wraith" to be the big dynamic for the future but they rarely used the two big enemies all that effectively.

4) Characters. They hardly developed! Sunday (317) may have been the best episode of the series to show what should have been. Unfortunately, I think it was meant as a one-off filler episode. And what of Ford? How do you bring somebody in from the start and not know what to do with him? Also, while Shep has the least amount of complaints from me, I think it would have been good to see more of his backstory and how he struggles to take orders. This was alluded to very much in the premier with the Robert Patrick character, but never followed up with.
Character development is tough on an ensemble show and the use of McKay to save the day so often (ala Wesley Crusher in STTNG) weakened it greatly. The writers using cheap "outs" so often sucked too.

SunMonkey
08-22-08, 10:18 PM
:(

One the only shows I make a point to watch. At least they will be wrapping things up or continuing the story via the movies.

mikehunt
08-22-08, 11:14 PM
Continuum isn't a tie-in/launch. It doesn't really wrap anything up or lead to anything new besides maybe the loss of one bad guy I liked it, but it's pretty much a one-off episode.

it also has a small tie in to carter's last episode on atlantis since she was going back to earth in part to participate in the ceremony at the opening of continuum

Mattrk
08-23-08, 11:52 PM
SG-1 and Atlantis are like big bowls of Mac & Cheese - I wouldn't want it to be the only thing I ate, but it's good to have once a week with other stuff. Both shows can be challenging at times, or entertaining, action-packed and easy to absorb at others.

That in mind, both shows have deserved better treatment than what they've been given. That could be the epitaph of so many other SciFi Channel shows; take your pick. I vote for Good vs Evil and Farscape.

Sean O'Hara
08-24-08, 11:22 AM
This Stargate: Universe sounds much like Star Trek: Voyager.

You obviously haven't heard the details -- Ben Browder will be the star, and he'll go through a wormhole and end up on a ship -- a living ship -- full of escaped prisoners, and have to run from an insane military commander.

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via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

McHawkson
08-24-08, 11:33 AM
You obviously haven't heard the details -- Ben Browder will be the star, and he'll go through a wormhole and end up on a ship -- a living ship -- full of escaped prisoners, and have to run from an insane military commander.

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Now playing: Adam Curry &amp; John Dvorak - NA-044-2008-08-23 (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/adam+curry+%26amp%3b+john+dvorak/track/na-044-2008-08-23)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

Yeah, you're right, I didn't.

SmithsGuy
08-24-08, 10:11 PM
Stargate: Universe has the same basic plot as Space: 1999.

Or perhaps Starlost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlost)... but am not looking forward to it.

riley_dude
08-25-08, 02:15 PM
After last week's episode where we see Rodney turn into Rainman, I don't think I am going to miss this show too much.

Superman07
08-25-08, 02:23 PM
I find it interesting that this thread has provided more feedback than most of the previous SGA threads. ;)

Michael Corvin
08-25-08, 07:12 PM
I find it interesting that this thread has provided more feedback than most of the previous SGA threads. ;)

I'm sure it has to do with more fans in general than watch weekly. For example, I'm only through season 3 on DVD.

wmansir
08-25-08, 09:33 PM
After last week's episode where we see Rodney turn into Rainman, I don't think I am going to miss this show too much.

Thirty seconds in I couldn't help but think "Hewlett has gone full retard."

Derrich
08-25-08, 10:10 PM
Heh, I just posted a 'full retard' comment in the Gateworld forum...wonder how long till they ban me.

D

Wolf359
08-26-08, 03:45 AM
I was thinking the exact same thing. What a weak ass episode. Exactly why does losing your memory equate to being retarded?? Hated the whole thing with his hands.

bboisvert
08-26-08, 12:57 PM
I enjoy the show for what it is, but can't say the cancelation news bothers me at all. It's time. And if they manage to put out a couple of quality movies, all the better.

As for Stargate: Universe... ugh. That just doesn't sound good at all.