It makes it seem like I personally endorse whatever comes up. Not only do I not appreciate that, but if the advertisers knew who was "endorsing" them, they wouldn't appreciate it.
WallyOPD
08-15-08, 03:57 PM
It appears to only be affecting the less desirable posters. I haven't seen these ads yet.
Dr Mabuse
08-15-08, 04:02 PM
:lol:
Venusian
08-15-08, 04:21 PM
were you logged in when you saw the ad? i dont see any
Groucho
08-15-08, 04:37 PM
My understanding is that the ads are much more subtle, and appear inside the posters message seamlessly in a posting style that closely matches their usual candor.
HAY GUYZ!!! I LIKE COCA-COLA. :) YUM!111!!
matta
08-15-08, 04:57 PM
were you logged in when you saw the ad? i dont see any
I guess I was. That's weird.. lurkers see different things than we do? Strange.
Vandelay_Inds
08-15-08, 05:43 PM
I guess I was. That's weird.. lurkers see different things than we do? Strange.
Other forums do this. They ones I follow have abandoned it, too.
I'm not always logged in when I read.
I do not like the add.
IB-Dick
08-15-08, 06:53 PM
I guess I was. That's weird.. lurkers see different things than we do? Strange.
Correct. If you aren't logged in, you see ads. If you are logged in, you don't see ads. It's not that we want to hose lurkers, it's that we want to give you special treatment. There are always going to be ads on just about every website. It's either ads for everyone or ads for the non-registered people.
For the record, this has been the policy for a couple of months and is nothing new since the upgrade. What has changed is the first post ad, which is replacing an ad in a break between the second and third post. It was decided that this would be less intrusive to the lurkers. Believe it or not, that's an upgrade.
GizmoDVD
08-15-08, 07:17 PM
So can we have avatars yet? I've got a killer screencap from Troll 2 I would like to use...
IB-Dick
08-15-08, 07:25 PM
So can we have avatars yet? I've got a killer screencap from Troll 2 I would like to use...
Correct. If you aren't logged in, you see ads. If you are logged in, you don't see ads. It's not that we want to hose lurkers, it's that we want to give you special treatment. There are always going to be ads on just about every website. It's either ads for everyone or ads for the non-registered people.
For the record, this has been the policy for a couple of months and is nothing new since the upgrade. What has changed is the first post ad, which is replacing an ad in a break between the second and third post. It was decided that this would be less intrusive to the lurkers. Believe it or not, that's an upgrade.
Sounds fair to me.
WallyOPD
08-15-08, 08:00 PM
Glad it won't affect me as long as I'm logged in, but if it was my first time visiting a site and I saw ads in the first post it would also be my last time visiting the site. Hope it doesn't hurt the site long term by keeping out new blood.
matta
08-15-08, 08:01 PM
For the record, this has been the policy for a couple of months and is nothing new since the upgrade.
It's probably just that I haven't been "logged out" in years.
IB-Dick
08-15-08, 08:24 PM
Glad it won't affect me as long as I'm logged in, but if it was my first time visiting a site and I saw ads in the first post it would also be my last time visiting the site. Hope it doesn't hurt the site long term by keeping out new blood.
People have become more and more accepting of ads throughout the years. Everybody hates them, but most of them realize that websites cost money to run. Also, the % of people who get to this site via links and search engines that end up registering is fairly low. It's a metric that's worth being concerned about, but the site's content will always keep people coming back. You guys are a pretty solid group, and there isn't much of a risk in the community failing because of ads, as long as it's kept within reason. If this site were brand new or much smaller, I'd completely agree with you.
It's probably just that I haven't been "logged out" in years.
I'm sure many people here haven't. The upgrade changed the format of the cookie, so it forced most people to have to re-login.
cardsfan111
08-15-08, 08:30 PM
I'm sure many people here haven't. The upgrade changed the format of the cookie, so it forced most people to have to re-login.
It was a booger trying to remember my password! ;)
Thanks for all the quick responses, IB-Dick.
matta
08-16-08, 10:27 AM
I'm sure many people here haven't. The upgrade changed the format of the cookie, so it forced most people to have to re-login.
But like I mentioned in the other thread, apparently the new cookie format isn't working.
May I suggest gingerbread?
kms_md
08-16-08, 11:17 AM
I'm sure many people here haven't. The upgrade changed the format of the cookie, so it forced most people to have to re-login.
so that's what happened. i noticed the ads when i came back the day after the upgrade, but, i was not logged in due to the cookie change. i have not noticed an since logging back in. thanks for the info!
big whoppa
08-16-08, 06:05 PM
I thought they amped up the ads too before I noticed I hadn't logged in first. Nice screen name, IB-Dick. ;)
E. Honda
08-18-08, 01:07 AM
Mozilla Firefox + addons NoScript and Flashblock = no ads
X
08-18-08, 02:00 AM
Mozilla Firefox + addons NoScript and Flashblock = no ads= violating the terms you agreed to when you signed up.
DVD Talk is a private membership organization, NOT a public forum. Membership to DVD Talk is predicated on your ADHERENCE to the rules and policies detailed below. Failure to abide by these rules will result in the closure of your forum account and an end to your Membership on the site. DVD Talk Membership is not free, the membership fee (which is thirty dollars per year) is paid on your behalf by the advertisers on this site. As such you agree not to use any ad blocking or suppression software or be liable for your membership fee.
http://www.dvdtalk.com/legal.html
Seantn
08-18-08, 05:22 AM
Better ban him since you have no way of making sure he'll stop.
big whoppa
08-18-08, 09:50 AM
^Probably more people on DVDTalk block ads than will admit.
IB-Dick
08-18-08, 11:44 AM
Better ban him since you have no way of making sure he'll stop.
Sure we can! It's pretty simple. We have his IP logged. All we have to do is see if he's loading ad images in the server logs.
Breakfast with Girls
08-18-08, 06:38 PM
Perhaps a more productive use of Internet Brands' time would be creating a way for users to pay for a no-ads version of the site.
IB-Dick
08-18-08, 08:17 PM
Perhaps a more productive use of Internet Brands' time would be creating a way for users to pay for a no-ads version of the site.
Regarding the forum, if you're logged in you have a free ad-free version of the site. Obviously, that's not true for the rest of the site but it's better than nothing.
twikoff
08-18-08, 09:23 PM
is it possible to make it so that bob dole's viagara ads always show up in my posts?
ChiTownAbs, Inc
08-19-08, 06:08 PM
= violating the terms you agreed to when you signed up.
Can you tell me where I can send my check to?
Thanks
X
08-19-08, 06:16 PM
Can you tell me where I can send my check to?
ThanksI'll ask.
matta
08-19-08, 07:18 PM
Regarding the forum, if you're logged in you have a free ad-free version of the site. Obviously, that's not true for the rest of the site but it's better than nothing.
You know, I didn't mind ads between posts (as long as they didn't scream or play music). When they're in posts, however, it makes it look like it's the user that added the advertisement. I wouldn't be too happy if I referenced your screen name and an ad for gay porn popped up next to my name.
Oh shit... he's going to make gay porn pop up next to my name now :(
ChiTownAbs, Inc
08-27-08, 01:42 PM
I'll ask.
Any update?
Thanks.
abrg923
08-29-08, 02:30 AM
Yeah, apparently I need to know as well.
The Cow
08-29-08, 03:31 AM
I was going to say tell me too, but I don't see any such thing in the IB agreement in the link that X posted. Check the current link, not the post.
What X posted is in the Geoff rules in this sub-forum, not the forum signup agreement.
Edit: The sticky of 'Geoff's Rules' either needs to be removed or refreshed. Some things are now allowed that were not before, and some things are not welcome that were before. That thread needs to go - it's dated almost 5 years ago.
benedict
08-29-08, 04:11 AM
With the recent move to the IB standard, producing an edited/updated version of Geoff's rules for the DVDtalk forums is already on the "to do" list.
I believe that, when done, it'll replace the old thread/post and a link to a copy page along the lines of the previous "legal" link will be added to the page footer by IB ASAP.
(New users and members returning from a significant hiatus may also find themselves viewing said rules when they sign in).
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