I reported one of them, since they have been frustrating me for months by not being regular threads with some semblance of actual information included other than a link to other websites. Then I noticed there were 5(!) of them on the first page of threads alone.
Can someone in authority please drop him a nice note to convince him to stop making them polls, please? It is getting to the point where I am avoiding that forum altogether and just skipping to other ones, thus missing out on any other good threads that might be in there.
nateman
05-16-08, 03:29 PM
Do you expect him to write a 12 page summary about a TV on DVD release? You're supposed to have a link where you got the information about the release and that's all you really need to have. The information is one click away. Most people don't even add polls.
Posted threads about a release of a BD or DVD just has the link to the site where you got your information from and the OP might contain one of these: :banana: or :bdance: followed by a comment like "can't wait!" or "it's about time!" and that's about it.
It was pretty silly to report him for contributing to DVD Talk. If you don't like it, do what you said you were going to do and don't post here.
WallyOPD
05-16-08, 03:45 PM
While DVDTalk has rules about making too many posts on the front page, what's the issue with him making them polls?
Lunatikk
05-16-08, 03:52 PM
I reported one of them, since they have been frustrating me for months by not being regular threads with some semblance of actual information included other than a link to other websites. Then I noticed there were 5(!) of them on the first page of threads alone.
Can someone in authority please drop him a nice note to convince him to stop making them polls, please? It is getting to the point where I am avoiding that forum altogether and just skipping to other ones, thus missing out on any other good threads that might be in there.
There are 6 on the first page.
dx23
05-16-08, 04:10 PM
I reported one of them, since they have been frustrating me for months by not being regular threads with some semblance of actual information included other than a link to other websites. Then I noticed there were 5(!) of them on the first page of threads alone.
Can someone in authority please drop him a nice note to convince him to stop making them polls, please? It is getting to the point where I am avoiding that forum altogether and just skipping to other ones, thus missing out on any other good threads that might be in there.
That is the most stupid report I have ever heard. Are you too lazy to click the link provided to the information of the release? He likes to add to the thread a poll, so what? If you don't like them, then don't click on them.
cardsfan111
05-16-08, 04:21 PM
I'm not sure what the OP's specific complaint is: The nature of the threads without more information in the original post, the fact that they include a poll or the fact that there are a number of them currently on the front page.
Of course, if you've hung around for a while, you know which one the mods will take exception with... -rolleyes-
EdTheRipper
05-16-08, 04:32 PM
He's a contributing member. I don't see what the big problem is.
12thmonkey
05-16-08, 04:40 PM
I never even noticed them, or at least that there's a number of similar type posts. I typically scan thread titles, and if it concerns something that interests me I look, if not I move on.
It's not like every thread can or should appeal to everyone. That would be ridiculous.
I'm not sure what the OP's specific complaint is: The nature of the threads without more information in the original post, the fact that they include a poll or the fact that there are a number of them currently on the front page.
Of course, if you've hung around for a while, you know which one the mods will take exception with... -rolleyes-
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Trevor
05-17-08, 06:08 AM
I never even noticed them, or at least that there's a number of similar type posts. I typically scan thread titles, and if it concerns something that interests me I look, if not I move on.
It's not like every thread can or should appeal to everyone. That would be ridiculous.
Exactly. I don't see how it is bothering you OP.
You're avoiding an entire forum because of a few threads that don't give you enough information?
How about being helpful and posting more information if you are interested in that title?
LorenzoL
05-19-08, 11:20 AM
I have add my two cents to this thread. I don't find anything wrong with what Bigjim is doing in creating threads of tv on dvds releases. However, one of the mods just closed the "Las Vegas" Season 5 thread for lack of information.
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=531684
He posted the information link, do we now have to add a comment to the threads? Is the poll what's the issue? Is there a new procedure that we have to do in order to create threads with DVD release dates? I'm confused.
dx23
05-19-08, 12:41 PM
I have add my two cents to this thread. I don't find anything wrong with what Bigjim is doing in creating threads of tv on dvds releases. However, one of the mods just closed the "Las Vegas" Season 5 thread for lack of information.
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=531684
He posted the information link, do we now have to add a comment to the threads? Is the poll what's the issue? Is there a new procedure that we have to do in order to create threads with DVD release dates? I'm confused.
I was wondering the same thing too. He provided the link with the information for the release. Given that the site doesn't let you copy and paste their info, is the most he could have done at the moment. And by the way, I have seen threads contain more wording but less usefulness.
Trevor
05-19-08, 12:54 PM
Another questioning why it was closed.
nateman
05-19-08, 02:58 PM
I was wondering the same thing too. He provided the link with the information for the release. Given that the site doesn't let you copy and paste their info, is the most he could have done at the moment. And by the way, I have seen threads contain more wording but less usefulness.
I was just going to post that. You can't copy and paste information from tvshowsondvd.com.
Closed for lack of content.
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Letting people know information shouldn't equal a locked thread. I thought the thread was fine and it wasn't any different from any other release information threads that I've seen other than he added a poll.
odisn
05-21-08, 12:31 PM
Oh well...plenty of uppity n00bs means a change in direction around here, I suppose. I just remember when threads about releases used to actually give details on the content, not just a link, which then spurred on much more discussion.
Since I've more or less been told to "f-off" by most of you, I will just stick to the bargain threads and peruse other sites for mature discussions.
Trevor
05-21-08, 12:47 PM
Oh well...plenty of uppity n00bs means a change in direction around here, I suppose. I just remember when threads about releases used to actually give details on the content, not just a link, which then spurred on much more discussion.
Since I've more or less been told to "f-off" by most of you, I will just stick to the bargain threads and peruse other sites for mature discussions.
I guess I'm an uppity n00b, but I think that instead of "quitting", you should do two things.
1 - If you wanted intelligent discussion on a title in one of his threads, start it.
2 - If his threads bother you, ignore them and start your own if you care.
I don't see any change around here, except a lot of complaining over insignificant things. I still see lots of intelligent discussion on DVDtalk.
nateman
05-21-08, 03:11 PM
I guess I'm an uppity n00b, but I think that instead of "quitting", you should do two things.
1 - If you wanted intelligent discussion on a title in one of his threads, start it.
2 - If his threads bother you, ignore them and start your own if you care.
I don't see any change around here, except a lot of complaining over insignificant things. I still see lots of intelligent discussion on DVDtalk.
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fumanstan
05-21-08, 03:21 PM
I thought it was a rule that when starting a thread it had to include more then just a link or a quoted text from an article, like some sort of opinion or comment by the poster. I imagine a thread with just a picture of a DVD release or something would be similar.
Trevor
05-21-08, 03:31 PM
I thought it was a rule that when starting a thread it had to include more then just a link or a quoted text from an article, like some sort of opinion or comment by the poster. I imagine a thread with just a picture of a DVD release or something would be similar.
His threads are full of substantial information (in the link, which can't or shouldn't be cut and pasted), and a question (in the thread title/poll).
So if that rule exists, he doesn't violate it.
Why should we have to repeat a question that is clearly in the thread title?
As long as he isn't posting dozens each and every day, I see no problem. If the title has no appeal to the members of the forum then the thread will quickly die.
fumanstan
05-21-08, 09:20 PM
Eh, I'm not so sure i'd say they're full of substantial info. Don't get me wrong, I think its a stupid rule along with the too many posts on the first page complaint, but within the context of the rule I understand.
For instance, the Big Bang Theory thread has a poll, a picture, and a link. Not even a release date yet. I don't care since I'm glad to know its coming and these threads usually start the discussion, but I can see why mods enforcing the rules might lock it.
dx23
09-10-08, 08:31 PM
So Bigjim25, a long time member and contributor to the forum was told not to continue posting polls, even though they had relevant information on new releases and abe55, a newbie, is allow to do the same without any repercussions? Of his 123 post, 115 are polls and 1 is almost a poll. Bigjims25's polls were about new things while abe55's have been about the same thing. This is an example of his posts:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=539377
GreenVulture
09-15-08, 02:13 PM
I think the difference is that abe55's polls at least prompt some sort of meaningful/interesting discussion (though admitedly they rarely do), whereas Bigjim's threads are usually just a link, which I think is a bit silly; I mean, if I wanted the info from the original site, I would go to the original site rather than clicking on it through DVDTalk. It reeks of laziness on his part to not take the extra 30 seconds to copy and paste the press release (or a release date or a price or something) in his OP.
Strange, too, since in the Music forum, Bigjim is usually the first person to post coverart and a nicely formatted tracklisting.
fumanstan
09-15-08, 02:42 PM
I believe the issue was that a lot of the info isn't copy/pastable from those sites.
dx23
09-15-08, 08:08 PM
I think the difference is that abe55's polls at least prompt some sort of meaningful/interesting discussion (though admitedly they rarely do), whereas Bigjim's threads are usually just a link, which I think is a bit silly; I mean, if I wanted the info from the original site, I would go to the original site rather than clicking on it through DVDTalk. It reeks of laziness on his part to not take the extra 30 seconds to copy and paste the press release (or a release date or a price or something) in his OP.
Strange, too, since in the Music forum, Bigjim is usually the first person to post coverart and a nicely formatted tracklisting.
I believe the issue was that a lot of the info isn't copy/pastable from those sites.
Yes, the copy/paste function is disabled on the tvshowsondvd.com site, so Bigjim's only option is to gives the link with a poll. My problem with the abe55's post is that many of the polls overlap each other and to me he is just doing polls for the shits and giggles and not to spark any meaningful discussion. Is not like he is even giving his opinion on the films he posts. Every post he makes is just a poll and almost everytime you go to the movie forum is just crowded with 5 polls he created with little discussion. As soon as one of his threads dies, he creates a new one.
Is just something that has been bugging me everytime I visit the Movie Talk forum but if nobody else has a problem with it, I'll just let it be.
GreenVulture
09-15-08, 10:18 PM
Wow, I did not know tvshowsondvd disabled the highlighting function; that is something of a dick move. But still though, it's very easy to copy the text, it's just going to take a couple of minutes rather than 30 seconds.
As for abe's polls, while I agree he's been overdoing them recently, I don't really mind them all that much, as it's fun to get a general DVDTalk consensus on certain film subjects. Look on the bright side; he'll eventually run out of things to poll, right? Right?
benedict
09-16-08, 03:19 AM
My problem with the abe55's post is that many of the polls overlap each other and to me he is just doing polls for the shits and giggles and not to spark any meaningful discussion. Is not like he is even giving his opinion on the films he posts. Every post he makes is just a poll and almost everytime you go to the movie forum is just crowded with 5 polls he created with little discussion. As soon as one of his threads dies, he creates a new one.
Is just something that has been bugging me everytime I visit the Movie Talk forum but if nobody else has a problem with it, I'll just let it be.In a way, even if one could discern it, the OP's intent is almost immaterial so long as the poll/thread does start a discussion....
I don't moderate that forum but when I was in there looking into the "excessive Dark Knight thread furore" - mentioned in Feedback a short while ago - I noticed the preponderance of abe55 threads.
Because they
a) seemed to be generating discussion, and
b) for the most part there weren't too many such threads on the front page
I didn't see the need to visibly step in - although I may have closed one or two short ones that dropped onto page two.
Now that Wenders has volunteered to take up some of the slack in Movie Talk it may be that this is something that he'll keep an eye on <i>if it clearly becomes a problem.</i> In the meantime, there is always the IGNORE function for anyone whose contribution is regarded as superfluous.
I've no comment on the BigJim aspect of this discussion except to concur with GreenVulture's positive opinion of BigJim's contribution to Music Talk.
wendersfan
09-16-08, 08:33 AM
Now that Wenders has volunteered to take up some of the slack in Movie Talk it may be that this is something that he'll keep an eye on <i>if it clearly becomes a problem.</i> In the meantime, there is always the IGNORE function for anyone whose contribution is regarded as superfluous.
Just to let everyone know, I'm currently without electricity and have been since Sunday, so my only internet access is at work. Because of that, if you report a post and don't get an immediate response, rest assured I'll get to it as soon as I can. AEP is telling us we'll have power by tomorrow (Wednesday night), but it might be several more days.
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