I certainly hope I will still be able to tell about some of the seminars I go to.
After all, there are not a lot of places where you can learn to do a temporary male to female sex change using only a surgical stapler.
Kittydreamer
04-25-08, 06:56 PM
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=328480 Perhaps it's time for a rules update so we know what we can and can't post these days?
big whoppa
04-25-08, 07:00 PM
Certain four-letter words are still allowed here and some of the topics and threads still are on the fringes of family friendly. Sex change threads might have to be taken to xcritic.
Those rules were made by Geoff who doesn't own the site anymore. Do they all still apply?
chino77
04-25-08, 07:10 PM
but what about all the children who post here? they will be scarred for life if they stumble into your sex change thread or the dirty joke thread. keep this place family friendly only violence is allowed here like on tv. sex will corrupt them ...not murder and beatings. violence is natural and an every day part of life not sex.
mcfly
04-25-08, 07:20 PM
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here even under the age of 18?
Bronkster
04-25-08, 07:23 PM
Since every other video review lately seems to be for a gay movie, I'm not too worried yet.
kvrdave
04-25-08, 07:30 PM
:lol: Just got back to see my thread was closed.
You mods seriously need to come up with a decent set of rules. Amazon ads are now more racy that we can be.
This is just stupid.
chino77
04-25-08, 07:33 PM
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here even under the age of 18?
i doubt it and if there are they are seeing much more and worse on the dvds they are watching.
calhoun07
04-25-08, 07:34 PM
And the DVD that came up at the top of the page when I clicked on this thread:
http://images.dvdtalk.com/covers/B0011B9W74.jpg
Disney is really branching out these days!
maxfisher
04-25-08, 07:38 PM
Did something change? Last I noticed, we're allowed to say cunt, but now middle-school level dirty jokes aren't allowed? It's going to be tough to find a way to work dirty words into clean conversations, though I suppose if there's any group of people up to the task...
The Bus
04-25-08, 07:40 PM
OK, I don't mind the gay sex DVDs.* But I do mind that dude's beard. It's creeping me out.
Plus there's still a jump to "Adult" on the drop-down menu.
gilbertr76
04-25-08, 07:42 PM
Did something change? Last I noticed, we're allowed to say cunt, but now middle-school level dirty jokes aren't allowed? It's going to be tough to find a way to work dirty words into clean conversations, though I suppose if there's any group of people up to the task...
Twat's that maxfisher? I cunt finger out what you're trying to say... :hscratch:
10-7
04-25-08, 07:43 PM
Twat's that maxfisher? I cunt finger out what you're trying to say... :hscratch:
...he has an ear infucktion.
Thor Simpson
04-25-08, 07:44 PM
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here even under the age of 18?
You sicko.
Minor Threat
04-25-08, 07:49 PM
I certainly hope I will still be able to tell about some of the seminars I go to.
After all, there are not a lot of places where you can learn to do a temporary male to female sex change using only a surgical stapler.
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here even under the age of 18?
DVD Talk is NOT a dating service.....
Save Ferris
04-25-08, 07:52 PM
how come we can show a cock shaped cake but not rated R jokes?
chino77
04-25-08, 07:53 PM
i dont understand the whole " what if the kids are reading" bullshit. shouldnt it be the parents responsability...not dvdtalk? this place is already a hugely popular place and i doubt it will drop off because of something posted in otter.
gilbertr76
04-25-08, 07:56 PM
...he has an ear infucktion.
If I don't masturbate hard enough on an orator, and cock my head to the left, my ear infucktion perverts anything entering the orifice.
Dr Mabuse
04-25-08, 08:00 PM
anyone who is in any way involved in any family of any type should stay out of this forum...
pedagogue
04-25-08, 08:45 PM
There are Breeders here.....BEWARE!!!!!
TomOpus
04-25-08, 08:49 PM
There are Breeders here.....BEWARE!!!!!Kim Deal posts here? Neato.
Tracer Bullet
04-25-08, 09:27 PM
OK, I don't mind the gay sex DVDs.* But I do mind that dude's beard. It's creeping me out.
* I would mind having to watch them.
Homophobe -ohbfrank-
EdTheRipper
04-25-08, 09:37 PM
Since every other video review lately seems to be for a gay movie, I'm not too worried yet.
:lol:
And at the top of the page for me, a review for The Big Gay Sketch Show.
Funny thing is, did this all start when you and Mojo took over Otter as Prez & VP. I think so! I think an impeachment is due!
John Slider
04-26-08, 09:27 AM
Why can't we just slap a '18+ Only' disclaimer on Otterville like the Adult forum was previously listed? I see no problem with that. Nobody wants to go to XCritic, let us have fun here.
Mrs. Danger
04-26-08, 09:37 AM
Keep in mind, mods, that if something gets TOO family friendly, it gets boring for the grown-ups.
It's like what's happened to Las Vegas. You might as well go to Disneyland.
John Slider
04-26-08, 09:39 AM
Maybe we should just create a new forum, so the members can have fun again. -ohbfrank-
maxfisher
04-26-08, 09:39 AM
Why can't we just slap a '18+ Only' disclaimer on Otterville like the Adult forum was previously listed? I see no problem with that. Nobody wants to go to XCritic, let us have fun here.
The thing is, there'd have to be a '18+ Only' disclaimer on a bunch of forums if it was part of a serious attempt at establishing 'family friendliness.' I mean, what's the difference between a 'what's you favorite dirty joke?' thread in otter and a 'what's your favorite dirty joke from a movie?' thread in the movie forum? If discussion of R-rated, or even X-rated, subjects is disallowed, I think it will have to significantly, negatively impact the typically candid nature of our discussions about films, albums, books, television shows and video games.
edited to add: When I mentioned cunt earlier in the thread, I was specifically thinking about a recent post I made in the thread about Atonement. In that movie, the word cunt is used in conjunction with a significant plot point. I suppose, when discussing the movie, someone could say the 'c-word' or 'a bad word for a vagina', but really, is that any more family friendly? It seems that if we're assuming people are old enough to participate in discussions about R-rated films, they should be old enough to be exposed to the language in those films.
NCMojo
04-26-08, 10:21 AM
Funny thing is, did this all start when you and Mojo took over Otter as Prez & VP. I think so! I think an impeachment is due!
Apparently one of the preludes to being impeached is getting a blowjob from an intern -- so bring it on, suckah!
Kittydreamer
04-26-08, 10:44 AM
Hey, that stapler thing is not about sexuality, it's a gag you play on the guy who got drunk while you stayed sober.
You just apply a little antiseptic cream, and four staples. When he wakes up, and goes to pee, it's GONE! AAAAAAA!
Once you have had your fun, and made your YouTube video, you lend him the staple remover.
*Note to self: never drink or passout with Mrs. D around. Ever.*
Houstondon
04-26-08, 10:46 AM
In general, this topic has caused more than a little friction (of the negative kind) ever since DVD Talk began. G! had what amounted to an uneasy balancing act going on, the scales tipping from one side to another depending on the specifics of what came up. He sold the website and the initial "party line" discussed behind the scenes (ie: not in the public forums) really limited what was supposed to happen. Certain big new advertisers were dead set against adult content and IB really wanted DVD Talk to be "family friendly" but they never outlined anything specific in that regard. We've passed up reviewing a few titles sold on Amazon since the change in ownership took place and were told to not include nudity in screen captures for the new reviews but I agree that with the change in ownership, the line should be publicly drawn to minimize problems.
Whatever the new standard becomes, it should be consistently applied; such is not the case in some of the forums at this time.
The Bus
04-26-08, 12:27 PM
Homophobe -ohbfrank-
I just don't like creepy beards. :(
Tracer Bullet
04-26-08, 07:01 PM
I just don't like creepy beards. :(
That's what I want to hear :eyebrow:
chino77
04-27-08, 01:59 AM
That's what I want to hear :eyebrow:
i love creepy beards :eyebrow:
abrg923
04-27-08, 02:38 AM
And typically enough, not a SINGLE mod has bothered to step forward and discuss this subject. Way to go, guys. This despite the fact that at least one has read it, for sure, since it was moved here from Other.
WallyOPD
04-27-08, 09:08 AM
And typically enough, not a SINGLE mod has bothered to step forward and discuss this subject. Way to go, guys. This despite the fact that at least one has read it, for sure, since it was moved here from Other.
Since this is a question on DVDTalk policy, moving to Feedback.
The mods/admins are discussing this question as we speak.
:hscratch:
Houstondon
04-27-08, 09:26 AM
And typically enough, not a SINGLE mod has bothered to step forward and discuss this subject. Way to go, guys. This despite the fact that at least one has read it, for sure, since it was moved here from Other.
At least he explained how the topic was being discussed at length by the Admins and Mods. I think they are looking for some "official" guidance by the IB owners on the topic, keeping in mind that at such a large corporation, nothing happens quickly (even those who did not agree with the stances G! took should accept that as a sole proprietor, he could make decisions a lot faster).
nemein
04-27-08, 10:30 AM
At least he explained how the topic was being discussed at length by the Admins and Mods. I think they are looking for some "official" guidance by the IB owners on the topic, keeping in mind that at such a large corporation, nothing happens quickly (even those who did not agree with the stances G! took should accept that as a sole proprietor, he could make decisions a lot faster).
Not the mention this thing started Friday night/going into the weekend. Overall I think we (the admins/mods) are approaching a consensus but at this point we're waiting to see if anyone from IB chimes in.
VinVega
04-27-08, 12:10 PM
Not the mention this thing started Friday night/going into the weekend. Overall I think we (the admins/mods) are approaching a consensus but at this point we're waiting to see if anyone from IB chimes in.
Well said nemein. As I said earlier, we are discussing it and we will come forward with a policy. I'm sure not 100% of the population will agree with the policy (you can never make everyone happy), but we will have something for you soon. Confusion is never fun and I for one want to have the least amount of it as possible.
Venusian
04-27-08, 02:30 PM
Not the mention this thing started Friday night/going into the weekend.
What? You expect us to believe the mods have lives? :rolleyes:
NCMojo
04-27-08, 03:19 PM
How about this as a simple idea:
Nothing obscene or risque in thread titles. In threads, no images that would not be suitable for 8PM network viewing -- thus, ladies in swimsuits, evening gowns, even tasteful lingerie, would be allowed. Penis cakes, not so much.
In general, we don't try and be "family-friendly" -- this is a forum for adults, and we all like to say things like "fuck" and "pee in her butt". And we don't gripe and complain about "NSFW" -- if you're at work, and you're looking at DVDTalk, then you're in trouble as it is. But we keep the main forum more or less PG-rated, and use spoiler tags if we have some question as to whether an image is acceptable or not.
Good? :shrug:
Trevor
04-27-08, 03:35 PM
Who died and made you Presi... oh yeah. Looks good.
Personally, I'd like to see all the links to adult content removed. This site will never be close to family friendly as long as every single page has "adult dvd reviews" linked top center.
nemein
04-27-08, 04:39 PM
How about this as a simple idea:
...
Thanks for the suggestion, but it's not really open for public discussion (that's another reason why the admins/mods haven't really posted in this thread much). While we do appreciate feedback and suggestions from users on most things, this is still a private forum and the final rules are up to the "powers that be". Since this is a topic the new owners have somewhat expressed an opinion on in the past it's really up to them what they want to tolerate. As mentioned an idea has already been formed, we're just waiting on that confirmation/feedback from IB. Hopefully something will be forthcoming soon (although again I wouldn't expect anything before Monday at the earliest).
Thanks for the patience everyone.
kvrdave
04-28-08, 12:53 AM
It makes me wonder why anyone would want to be a mod, personally. I could see when Geoff owned the joint because you feel like you are helping a guy out. But now you are essentially creating a more profitable site for a corporation while not being compensated for it. Knowing most of you, I don't think it is a power trip thing (for most of you), but I can't imagine most of you would want to be a mod, much less hang out, at the type of place you are recreating.
Houstondon
04-28-08, 01:22 AM
It makes me wonder why anyone would want to be a mod, personally. I could see when Geoff owned the joint because you feel like you are helping a guy out. But now you are essentially creating a more profitable site for a corporation while not being compensated for it. Knowing most of you, I don't think it is a power trip thing (for most of you), but I can't imagine most of you would want to be a mod, much less hang out, at the type of place you are recreating.
Regardless of who "owns" the website, the forums are a community; a community worth preserving and contributing to. My discussions with the mods and admins over the years have led me to believe that they value the community enough to devote some time and energy to making this place more enjoyable (and they do a better job than most of the paid employees at other places). :)
VinVega
04-28-08, 08:36 AM
It makes me wonder why anyone would want to be a mod, personally. I could see when Geoff owned the joint because you feel like you are helping a guy out. But now you are essentially creating a more profitable site for a corporation while not being compensated for it. Knowing most of you, I don't think it is a power trip thing (for most of you), but I can't imagine most of you would want to be a mod, much less hang out, at the type of place you are recreating.
I got hooked on this place because you all are a bunch of funny bastards and you made me laugh. :D That's why I stuck around. I learned to love it because of the personalities and also the strong moderation that you don't find at a lot of sites. The petty little flame wars aren't allowed here and people tend to post in a more adult manner here.
No offense to Geoff, but he was never the main reason I started or kept posting here. Hey, this place may go to hell in a hand basket (hopefully not), but if it does, there are plenty of other sites out there where I can waste time trying to entertain myself.
nemein
04-28-08, 08:41 AM
It makes me wonder why anyone would want to be a mod, personally.
Knowing I can go in and shut down any kvrdave thread I want makes it all worth while to me -ptth-
j/k
I think Vin described it accurately for me as well. This is the only non tech site I visit on a regular basis mainly because you don't find a lot of the bickering and flame wars here. I just like helping out w/ keeping this place that way.
Save Ferris
04-28-08, 10:36 AM
It makes me wonder why anyone would want to be a mod, personally. I could see when Geoff owned the joint because you feel like you are helping a guy out. But now you are essentially creating a more profitable site for a corporation while not being compensated for it. Knowing most of you, I don't think it is a power trip thing (for most of you), but I can't imagine most of you would want to be a mod, much less hang out, at the type of place you are recreating.
I think its a lot like wondering what kind of person wants to be president. They dont do it for the money. You can believe them when they say they do it simply to make America a better place. OR politicians are simply in the business for the power it gives them. When money just isnt enough, you want to boost your ego in ways you just cant when you're like everyone else.
nateman
04-28-08, 03:21 PM
No offense to Geoff, but he was never the main reason I started or kept posting here. Hey, this place may go to hell in a hand basket (hopefully not), but if it does, there are plenty of other sites out there where I can waste time trying to entertain myself.
If DVD Talk does go to hell in a hand basket; I hope it goes out with a bang.
I know us posters have some heated debates sometimes over Movies, TV shows, Otters ( ;) ), etc. but it rarely if ever turns into a "you're an idiot" type flaming war. It does happen the odd time, but the mods usually put an end to it very fast.
I know sometimes people ask for name changes, "special" privileges, and other things, and I know the mods are very strong about keeping with the rules, and some people get upset by that, but if they didn't stick with the rules; DVD Talk would be a mess of a forum.
I still want a name change, but I'm not going to waste time on that crap. The rules are the rules and that's it.
Off-topic, but how do you become a mod? (private message me if you don't want to waste thread space)
imperator505
04-28-08, 06:38 PM
...there are plenty of other sites out there where I can waste time trying to entertain myself.Links?
calhoun07
04-28-08, 07:09 PM
Off-topic, but how do you become a mod? (private message me if you don't want to waste thread space)
You have to kill another mod and then you can take over, ala the Santa Clause!
Save Ferris
04-28-08, 09:49 PM
behead them, clean cut with a steel blade.
Minor Threat
04-28-08, 09:50 PM
( ;) )
"you're an idiot.... -wink-
What The Fuck ? - I tried to use one of the officially voted in smilies from months ago but it's not available.....WTF - WEAK!!!!!
Does anyone here affect change or is this site destined for bureaucratic demise?
No offense to the mods/admins - I love you all ('cept X, cause I don't love robots) ( yet)), but can someone please drop their dick....?
Venusian
04-29-08, 08:24 AM
I believe you drop balls...not dick
VinVega
04-29-08, 09:21 AM
I believe you drop balls...not dick
I was a little confused by that post myself. Hopefully my balls will drop soon. ;)
Still hashing out the policy guys, hang in there.
nemein
04-29-08, 11:28 AM
behead them, clean cut with a steel blade.
modship brings immortality as well... noone told me that before :cool:
nateman
04-29-08, 03:06 PM
"you're an idiot.... -wink-
:lol: rotfl rotfl ............................................................................. :(
Mopower
04-29-08, 04:39 PM
After the last few days of the ad rotation I just assumed IB turned this place to GAY TALK Forum. :confused:
Rockmjd23
04-29-08, 07:00 PM
:lol: @ Zodiac Rapist coming up on the reviews.
Vandelay_Inds
04-29-08, 11:21 PM
I guess the children IB was hoping to attract with their "family friendly" policies have let us all down.
Beautiful. The thread's bound to see some real action in here.
Minor Threat
04-30-08, 12:36 AM
After the last few days of the ad rotation I just assumed IB turned this place to GAY TALK Forum. :confused:
You wish.....
cpgator
04-30-08, 10:06 AM
mod note - Sorry peoples, the overt sexual imagery is not going to be allowed here. www.xcritic.com
So you remove the photoshoped fake hulk member, and instead put in a link to a porn site. :lol:
BuddhaWake
04-30-08, 10:07 AM
this place is being too much with its whole "family friendly" thing. I could maybe see the photoshop thing but still ridiculous but dave's threat. I mean come on now. all this and you still have links to adult reviews and all kinds of "questionable" (for some not me) covers. I guess the corporate identity means more now.
BuddhaWake
04-30-08, 10:09 AM
So you remove the photoshoped fake hulk member, and instead put in a link to a porn site. :lol:
:lol: it becomes a bigger joke each day.
Tracer Bullet
04-30-08, 10:22 AM
:lol: it becomes a bigger joke each day.
Yeah, this is getting ridiculous. Since this place has always been pretty secretive about where policies are coming from and why, I can only wildly speculate that IB is laying down some sort of new "no NSFW" crap. We have always had NSFW stuff posted here with nary a problem. Porn may be one thing, but the stuff that's being edited out and threads that are being closed now are about as far away from porn as you can get.
TheNightFlier
04-30-08, 10:25 AM
So you remove the photoshoped fake hulk member, and instead put in a link to a porn site. :lol:
Porn sites are now family friendly :lol:
Removing the Hulk images is a little ridiculous.
BuddhaWake
04-30-08, 10:41 AM
but even the dirty jokes thread started by dave that one makes less sense. who's next, drink-man? is it going to have to be grape-drink-man.
NCMojo
04-30-08, 10:43 AM
I think we'd better all say "fuck" as many times as possible before Internet Brands yanks that away from us as well.
To touch on a point that Minor Threat just made... I don't really care who owns the site, I'd just like to see some simple, useful things done around here. The smilie thing stands out to me because I can't believe the explanation given -- what, really? No one can figure out a way to add in new smilies? When did that happen? I've been all over the Internet, to all kind of forums, and virtually every forum out there has a significantly better set of smilies than we have. I mean, the goddamn Teletubbies Fan Forum has better smilies -- the Gay Furries Forum has better smilies -- what is the issue here?
And weren't the new owners supposed to invest in some decent server technology so this place wouldn't drag so much? Can't they implement a better search function? Can't they settle on a goddamn NSFW policy a bit quicker than this???
You know what this is? This is Corporate America taking us for granted. Let's not kid ourselves here -- Internet Brands and DVDTalk.com aren't doing us a favor by allowing us to post here -- we supply 99% of the content that makes this site run, that makes them money, that puts this place on the map. I think with Geoff we all felt like it was a mom-and-pop shop and we were all in this together, but now that the forum has gone corporate, we're all just numbers to them, a commodity.
Well, I say we change those numbers just a bit. I say we pick one day -- maybe this Monday, May 5th -- and refuse to come here. No content, no page hits, just a big sucky number to sap down their spreadsheets and remind them that, ultimately, this site belongs to all of us.
Well, I say we change those numbers just a bit. I say we pick one day -- maybe this Monday, May 5th -- and refuse to come here. No content, no page hits, just a big sucky number to sap down their spreadsheets and remind them that, ultimately, this site belongs to all of us.
Can we make it May 9? I'm off work that day.
orangecrush18
04-30-08, 11:32 AM
I am personally pulling for a huge list of do's and don't ala the "bro code". Perhaps they could sell the hard copy version on Amazon. They could have 2 versions. One with a family friendly cover and one with an Xcritic version. Only the Xcritic version would have rotation on this site. I would also like to see an auto filter which replaces all uses of the F-word with a Shack-Fu logo. Cheapassgamer does this with great success.
kvrdave
04-30-08, 11:40 AM
Man, this is getting stupid. Especially given that we were told we'd have some grand edict, but were waiting for monday for the IB people to show up. Let's see....it's Wednesday.
Has any of this been done by their direction, or have the mods just figured this is what they want?
I know we are asking a lot to actually have some rules that are coherent, given that 1/3 of the threads in this place are as bad as some of those closed, but let's try to get something written down.
And censor the word "nipple" while we're at it.
drmoze
04-30-08, 11:45 AM
Can we make it May 9? I'm off work that day.
:lol:
Seriously, this whole thing sucks. People even spoilerize anything that may be offensive, and it gets removed anyway. (Yes, Hulk, I'm talkin 'bout yo thang.) ANd the link to xcritic doesn't help. Xcritic SUCKS, plain and simple. Nothing like the former adult forum here--just a corporate-created mishmash of uninteresting pseudo-posts, and not an adult-rated discussion community at all.
The hypocrisy really bugs me too. Most of the "unsuitable" material I see on Otter is in the DVD ads up top. Hey, if you're gonna move every remotely naught y thing to xcritic, howzabout taking those smutty ads off Otter and moving them to xcritic too? (Which will, by the way, guarantee that no one will see them, but that';s besides the point.)
I'm curious to see the impending 'new policy," but if it's as stupid as I expect it to be, I'll be looking for another fun forum to actually discuss and joke around freely. At least we'll have Otter for a while so we can all tell each other where the NEW forum to hang out is, once we find it.
Again, this sucks. I don't even see why this whole issue started up. Otter was not out of control, nor stepping over any reasonable bounds. :mad:
I wish I had a family. Then we could all sit down and watch the Zodiac Rapist movie that DVDTalk keeps advertising. That would certainly be friendly.
DVD Josh
04-30-08, 12:06 PM
Maybe it's time for an otter farm offshoot of DVD talk. I think what IB may have a problem with is implementing across the board policies for a place with such divergent subforums as this one.
Sir, I find this post offensive, scary, and not family friendly.
Shame on you.
covenant
04-30-08, 12:13 PM
Maybe it's time for an otter farm offshoot of DVD talk. I think what IB may have a problem with is implementing across the board policies for a place with such divergent subforums as this one.
The Battleground Europe forums experienced the same situation....the rules became so restrictive the off-topic folks created their own forum.
Venusian
04-30-08, 12:18 PM
The mods have come up with some rules that IB hasn't approved yet. They are a little relaxed right now and may get tightened in the future so don't take these as concrete yet.
The dirty jokes thread has been opened. As has the Hulk thread. Someone will have to add the image back in.
For now, keep any possibly offensive images spoilerized with a Possibly NSFW warning.
NCMojo
04-30-08, 12:19 PM
Yeah, well, we've seen the carnage that can occur when a group of Otters goes off and creates a new forum...
Ok, I just looked at Internet Brands website for the first time. They own 68 websites. DVDTalk is listed under the 'travel & leisure' category, which has the following description:
Our travel and leisure websites are comprised of substantial worldwide user communities that share travel-related experiences and interests, as well as websites offering specific lodging or leisure activities.
Seriously, is it of any surprise if the mods aren't getting any real direction as to how to proceed? I can't imagine our site being anything more than a blip on IB's radar. Hell, JohnMcG from IB joined back in October to post twice and then disappear from the site entirely. Let's see what he said back then...
We do not have plans for big changes to the site. We were attracted to it because we like what it is right now. We'll look to Geoff and the moderator team to continue guiding the personality of the forums.
I'd say the crackdown on content falls under the 'big change' category, but who knows how IB defines such a thing.
If the recent changes are the start of a trend, I bet this place looks dramatically different a year from now. Take away this user-base's ability to swear, make dirty jokes and candidly discuss adult (non-pornographic) topics and a lot of people are either going to leave or push the boundaries until they're banned. It's a shame, considering what a great little community this has been for so many years.
VinVega
04-30-08, 12:25 PM
The mods have come up with some rules that IB hasn't approved yet. They are a little relaxed right now and may get tightened in the future so don't take these as concrete yet.
The dirty jokes thread has been opened. As has the Hulk thread. Someone will have to add the image back in.
For now, keep any possibly offensive images spoilerized with a Possibly NSFW warning.
I have added the images back in. I had them saved on my PC because I loved them so much. :sarcasm:
In short, the fun has returned. :D
Venusian
04-30-08, 12:25 PM
Yall do realize that swearing wasn't always allowed here, right?
Kittydreamer
04-30-08, 12:26 PM
The mods have come up with some rules that IB hasn't approved yet. They are a little relaxed right now and may get tightened in the future so don't take these as concrete yet.
The dirty jokes thread has been opened. As has the Hulk thread. Someone will have to add the image back in.
For now, keep any possibly offensive images spoilerized with a Possibly NSFW warning.
http://i31.tinypic.com/qsa72r.jpg Thank you!!!!
VinVega
04-30-08, 12:27 PM
http://i31.tinypic.com/qsa72r.jpg Thank you!!!!
Oh great. Venusian is the good cop. -rolleyes-
:lol:
Kittydreamer
04-30-08, 12:29 PM
Yeah, well, we've seen the carnage that can occur when a group of Otters goes off and creates a new forum...
To be fair, this wasn't my decision. I just happen to be a slacker and have time to go open the threads. You can thank all your neighborhood mods. Maybe next Christmas, you'll remember to tip us ;)
Kittydreamer
04-30-08, 12:29 PM
Oh great. Venusian is the good cop. -rolleyes-
:lol:
Log onto msn baby and Kitty will treat you right. :eyebrow:
nevermind
04-30-08, 12:30 PM
I had them saved on my PC because I loved them so much.
I thought we were going to have to wait until I got home to get the hulk cock picture. It's the wallpaper on my 5-year old daughter's laptop.
Mopower
04-30-08, 12:32 PM
Yall do realize that swearing wasn't always allowed here, right?
Fuck yeah!
LurkerDan
04-30-08, 12:58 PM
I thought we were going to have to wait until I got home to get the hulk cock picture. It's the wallpaper on my 5-year old daughter's laptop.
liar.
kvrdave
04-30-08, 01:09 PM
Yall do realize that swearing wasn't always allowed here, right?
I do. We also couldn't say homo, but thanks to my erectus, I got that changed.
NCMojo
04-30-08, 01:23 PM
I do. We also couldn't say homo, but thanks to my erectus, I got that changed.
I've heard that your erectus gets lots of people to say "homo". :shrug:
Iron Chef
04-30-08, 01:24 PM
http://www.exclaim.ca/images/anchorman.jpg
maxfisher
04-30-08, 01:33 PM
Yall do realize that swearing wasn't always allowed here, right?
True, but even then, people were allowed to do simple substitutions, weren't they? Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I seem to recall things like f*ck and sh*t being alright back then. It's impossible for us to know what instruction IB has been giving the mods and admins, but some of the recent comments certainly give the indication that they'd like to censor the forum quite a bit more than what we've ever seen before.
lotsofdvds
04-30-08, 01:45 PM
Does it still get changed to The Passion of the Rice?
pedagogue
04-30-08, 04:42 PM
In short, the fun has returned. :D
We should have a vote.
nemein
05-01-08, 06:20 PM
The rules clarification has been posted http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=530709
Lee Harvey Oswald
05-03-08, 01:03 PM
But the Zodiac Rapist review gets to stay, right?
Seantn
05-05-08, 10:22 AM
Yes, but one of the reviewers, LotsOfDVDs, actually put the Zodiac Rapist picture as his profile picture just to prove a point (along with questioning the mods about the rules), and they fired him!
lotsofdvds
05-05-08, 10:56 AM
Yes, but one of the reviewers, LotsOfDVDs, actually put the Zodiac Rapist picture as his profile picture just to prove a point (along with questioning the mods about the rules), and they fired him!
Well to be fair, I haven't reviewed a game since Missile Command for XBLA. But there rarely seemed to be any screeners available, so eventually I stopped checking. I guess they just decided I was done and removed my reviewer status. No big deal.
No one said anything to me about it though, that kinda sucked. But it was the weekend and IB doesn't work weekends...
GeoffK
05-05-08, 12:10 PM
Chuck, I think it was more a matter of that you were a 'legacy' reviewer than anything else. I don't even think I had you on the list of reviewers that I turned over to IB.
While I have influence or involvement in the family friendly call, I have to say that I find it quite amusing that the same issues have been churned over and over again in this forum about what is and isn't permissible.
Again this is me talking and I don't represent DVD Talk, but for history's sake - the whole concept what to keep the forum Soft R rated to match the content on the site. It was never any aim to make it PG. But for me the big surprise is that those of you who want harder content don't seem to use the adult forum over at XCritic. We set it up there to 'catch' that interest. So I'd be interested in finding out why it doesn't work for you to post adult stuff one click over at Xcritic? What can we over at XCritic do to make it easier for you? (Do we need an adult ad free adult other?)
But I would say, give the mods and admins a break. They're the ones caught between a rock and hard place in the switch here. They're good guys and they're honestly trying... and I have zero vested interest in saying that...other than the fact that it's TRUE.
joeblow69
05-05-08, 12:31 PM
I think the problem is, that the 2 websites attract different kind of people. Dvdtalk (otter) type people generally just want to bullshit about random crap that sometimes gets a little Mature. XCritic is where you go to discus how many inches a starlet dilated after getting DVDA'ed. I think you would have better luck trying to grow your audience from other, more compatible websites, than by trying to force people from here over there.
abrg923
05-05-08, 12:35 PM
Because XCritic is a DIFFERENT SITE. It's not DVDTalk. Nobody wants to go to an adult website.
Not to mention it's not about posting sexual things - it's about posting things in Otter that, in the days of the Adult Forum being here, wouldn't have been censored or deleted.
Nobody wanted a spin-off site (using nobody as a broad term, meaning the majority) - it's not convenient. People want to do all of their posting here. It's stunning to me that you guys haven't yet figured that out.
abrg923
05-05-08, 12:46 PM
To further illustrate this point (taking from another thread):
It's been said before and it's worth repeating. The old "Adult Talk" section was just like a conversation turned dirty with some friends at a local bar. XCritic is a porn site. I'll be damned if I'm going to be posting on a porn site. While I understand the reasons for moving Adult off to make DVDTalk more "family friendly", I have a feeling a lot of people feel the same way I do about posting on an out-and-out porn site and that's caused this whole mess.
lotsofdvds
05-05-08, 01:00 PM
the whole concept what to keep the forum Soft R rated to match the content on the site. It was never any aim to make it PG. But for me the big surprise is that those of you who want harder content don't seem to use the adult forum over at XCritic. We set it up there to 'catch' that interest. So I'd be interested in finding out why it doesn't work for you to post adult stuff one click over at Xcritic? What can we over at XCritic do to make it easier for you? (Do we need an adult ad free adult other?)
An example of the kind of thing people are now kinda miffed about:
Back in "the day" I could start a "Jennifer Connelly bikini pics!" thread in Other. PG-13 at most. It's a woman in a bikini.
Now if I want to post that exact same thread, it'll get closed and I'll be redirected to a hardcore pornography site if I want to talk and joke about Jennifer Connelly in a bikini.
maxfisher
05-05-08, 01:45 PM
While this thread is full of bitching and moaning, a couple posts worth of it from me, it is worth noting that the mods and admins here definitely deserve the benefit of the doubt and have played a HUGE role in making this place what it is. They're not reimbursed or compensated for all their effort here and yet they've spent years keeping this site a civil place for adult discussion of topics ranging from entirely serious to completely inane. They deserve some gratitude for their dedication.
That said, it's worth voicing issues with any new rules or directions that come down, mainly because Internet Brands needs to see feedback if its actions are hurting or pissing off a community that it wants to use to turn a buck. lotsofdvds point above is especially relevant. He said PG-13, but really, under the new rules, all the pics could come straight from PG movies and the thread would get shut down. It's absurd. Supposing IB continues much further down this path, I have to think there's a good chance it'll create such a flood of issues that many of the mods & admins won't have the time or patience to deal with it. If that happens and we start getting new, family-friendly, IB-selected mods, this community will evaporate.
imperator505
05-05-08, 05:42 PM
...they've spent years keeping this site a civil place for adult discussion of topics ranging from entirely serious to completely inane.
Err, completely inane is still OK isn't it?
Just checking. -pray-
Houstondon
05-07-08, 04:43 AM
Yes, but one of the reviewers, LotsOfDVDs, actually put the Zodiac Rapist picture as his profile picture just to prove a point (along with questioning the mods about the rules), and they fired him!
It'd be nice if people stuck to the facts during this discussion. Chuck stopped reviewing almost a year ago of his own accord and our "reviewer staff" page drops you off when you haven't added anything in 90 days. There have always been hundreds of DVDs languishing on the pick list left untouched but he wasn't interested in those, fading away well before the IB purchase. As far as the ZR cover being removed, if it was so offensive to some of you in rotation as a review, it seems fair that the mods removed it from his avatar at the same time. The mods aren't "punishing him" (nor did they "fire him" as they really don't have that ability) and there have been active contributors raising questions of late too so lets try to stick to the issues at hand without the embellishments (it'll work better to convince people). Thanks!
BravesMG
05-07-08, 02:10 PM
I believe Geoff just locked the XCritic poll question in the other forum. And I'm not asking this sarcastically, but is he now considered a Mod or did he have one of the Mods close that thread?
nemein
05-07-08, 02:25 PM
I believe Geoff just locked the XCritic poll question in the other forum. And I'm not asking this sarcastically, but is he now considered a Mod or did he have one of the Mods close that thread?
Some one else locked it.
Kittydreamer
05-07-08, 03:25 PM
I don't know if people understand what it takes to run a forum. I ran a very small message board for a few years and trust me, it's not all cake and pie. You have to deal with figuring out what's ok, what's not ok, members that don't like each other, members that are constantly breaking the rules...trust me, it's a nightmare. I'm shocked and disapointed at how poor Geoff was treated. All he wanted to know was if he made a "Otter" at Xcritic, would you go. A simple yes or no would be have been fine but no, some of you people had to stab the guy in the back, then twist that knife and then set him on fire. Seriously. Some of you should truly be ashamed of your behavior recently. Geoff's a good man and he ran an awesome site, for free may I add.
LiquidSky
05-07-08, 03:31 PM
I don't know if people understand what it takes to run a forum. I ran a very small message board for a few years and trust me, it's not all cake and pie. You have to deal with figuring out what's ok, what's not ok, members that don't like each other, members that are constantly breaking the rules...trust me, it's a nightmare. I'm shocked and disapointed at how poor Geoff was treated. All he wanted to know was if he made a "Otter" at Xcritic, would you go. A simple yes or no would be have been fine but no, some of you people had to stab the guy in the back, then twist that knife and then set him on fire. Seriously. Some of you should truly be ashamed of your behavior recently. Geoff's a good man and he ran an awesome site, for free may I add.
Kitty I agree with you 100%.
Bandoman
05-07-08, 03:56 PM
Kitty I agree with you 100%.
I agree with your agreement with Kitty.
Geoff is good people. He didn't deserve the harsh responses he got in that thread. People don't want to have to go to a porn site to discuss sex. Okay. Say that and leave out the "your site sucks" comments. He created the community here we've all enjoyed for years.
Spicollidriver1
05-07-08, 05:12 PM
Yeah I think the timing of the thread was kind of bad because everyone was a little riled up already.
orangerory
05-08-08, 12:27 AM
And yes, while some of the comments in Geoff's thread were certainly uncalled for, I thought Geoff's closing comments to that thread were just as whiny and immature.
It sounds to me like Geoff's taking it personal that people are pissed about the rules and don't want to post at xcritic. But I thought there were many legitimate posts in that thread about why people didn't want to do that - in the midst of a few assholish ones.
Anyway - if you can't take the heat...
DarkestPhoenix
05-12-08, 01:20 AM
I believe Geoff just locked the XCritic poll question in the other forum. And I'm not asking this sarcastically, but is he now considered a Mod or did he have one of the Mods close that thread?
I don't know, but for me, in regards to the original question, NO. Here's my bottom line and I'm not afraid to say it: HARDLY NO ONE, IF ANYONE, WANTS TO GO TO XCRITIC AT ANY TIME. I don't get why that's hard to understand for our new owners.
This was pretty obvious by the poll results in that thread...I think it was closed because the thought of going to XCritic was categorically rejected and they didn't get the answer they wanted.
I wanted to help by letting the mods, et al, see what people really want. People want the old Otter and DVDTalk back. People don't want another website to come in like some loser at a party and try to poach OUR members to go check out the classless dude across the hall in the other apartment playing Jazz while no one's around and claiming his place is an awesome time. We're not mentally challenged. That place is not an awesome time and nothing you can say or do will convince people otherwise.
One of the main problems with XCritic is the fact that you're selling it too hard. Trying so desperately to convince everyone it's cool. It's not cool. It would be cooler if you put a link to the sister sites on the top of the page and unscrewed everything else around here back to its original state. Some people would click on the other sites and for the few people who find it a fit, they would stay. Congratulations, you bolstered the audience for that site by a few and made sure the people here are still content. Win-win.
You can't sell meat to a vegetarian, unless you make an attempt to be underhanded. I feel like a vegetarian looking at a plate where the meat hasn't been hidden very well.
That wasn't an Adult Talk reference, but feel free to take it that way.
DarkestPhoenix
05-12-08, 01:21 AM
I don't know if people understand what it takes to run a forum. I ran a very small message board for a few years and trust me, it's not all cake and pie. You have to deal with figuring out what's ok, what's not ok, members that don't like each other, members that are constantly breaking the rules...trust me, it's a nightmare. I'm shocked and disapointed at how poor Geoff was treated. All he wanted to know was if he made a "Otter" at Xcritic, would you go. A simple yes or no would be have been fine but no, some of you people had to stab the guy in the back, then twist that knife and then set him on fire. Seriously. Some of you should truly be ashamed of your behavior recently. Geoff's a good man and he ran an awesome site, for free may I add.
I agree wholeheartedly that Geoff is good and he ran an amazing site. I have the utmost respect for him, because this here would not exist without him and I love coming here when I can. However, then he sold it and the new people have their own agenda...
I distinctly remember the rose colored glasses and pretend joy at the initial announcement of the merger. Don't worry, we were reassured, nothing will change, we're just adding on to a great community. I was immediately unconvinced, but there really wasn't much I could do about it. I know I'm resistant to change, but that's because people generally want to change things I love. Things which don't need changing.
If the investors or whomever want to take advantage of a great website with a loyal and dedicated community, they're free to do so, and I will think they have made a fantastic investment. If they want to fragment the site and sell it off for parts so they can try to make a success out of other websites no one is interested in, you'll kill this place and end up with nothing. I know we've done enough damage to ourselves at this point that we should really go to the hospital and try to fix whatever problems we have.
I love this site enough to know I'd be championing that, any day.
DarkestPhoenix
05-12-08, 01:22 AM
And yes, while some of the comments in Geoff's thread were certainly uncalled for, I thought Geoff's closing comments to that thread were just as whiny and immature.
It sounds to me like Geoff's taking it personal that people are pissed about the rules and don't want to post at xcritic. But I thought there were many legitimate posts in that thread about why people didn't want to do that - in the midst of a few assholish ones.
Anyway - if you can't take the heat...
The reason I think people are getting out of line is because people are caring less and less. People aren't bothered as much if they get banned, because, to them, they're not losing a website with as much value as it had before. So, they push the envelope even further. I don't agree with it, but I see it.
I don't think everyone with a hatred of the changes is filled with vitriol, as was suggested, nor are they being unreasonable. If a question like this arises, people will want to voice their concerns. Stabbing a still painful wound will provoke their cries, don't be surprised by it; also, I think being offended by it is ludicrous; you had to see it coming.
I think most people, like me, were just telling them what their honest opinion is. If you tell me, "Bottom line...it's not going to happen, we're not getting our old site back," that's fine. But believe me, you will NEVER, EVER get me to go to XCritic. Ever. The very thought of it raises the defenses of most, and it is seen as the source of most of the problems, this skirting off to go elsewhere notion.
Which I think was the sentiments of most in that thread. Knowing the past is dead is hard to come to terms with, especially for those who, far more than I ever could have, made this such a fun environment to be a part of.
Houstondon
05-12-08, 02:51 AM
I don't know, but for me, in regards to the original question, NO. Here's my bottom line and I'm not afraid to say it: HARDLY NO ONE, IF ANYONE, WANTS TO GO TO XCRITIC AT ANY TIME. I don't get why that's hard to understand for our new owners.
This was pretty obvious by the poll results in that thread...I think it was closed because the thought of going to XCritic was categorically rejected and they didn't get the answer they wanted.
DP, some of you are either too close to your preconceived notions or simply asking the wrong questions in these (related) threads. G! does not have any direct contact with IB any more and the claim, made by a few of you lately, that they are somehow directing him to make his "offer" of setting up a less restrictive Otter forum (not even necessarily attached to Xcritic by the way) is misguided. I venture to say that IB would prefer the links to Xcritic be gone as much as the most prudish, anti-porn zealot that has ever posted here but a contract is a contract.
I think G! is a lot more open to adult material (including non-porn adult material) than most corporations (including IB) so taking him to task over his question, a simple yes/no question by the way, went way over the top. It is cool that that there seem to be a lot more forum lurkers at Xcritic since the blowout, maybe they just like the nudity or the porn performers, but make no mistake about it; the numbers for the rest of the website are higher than they were here, including how many people are reading the threads. I don't think he ever believed that hundreds of you would jump over to a "porn site" for the forums but beating him up over his offer strikes me as excessive. Did a single one of the detractors ever consider emailing him to ask if he was put up to the offer by the suits at IB?
The ongoing discussion about "family friendly" versus "work safe" versus "anything goes" (and all parts in between these three concepts) has been a point of contention since DT began. There have been times when words were censored (under G!'s reign), pictures were taken down (under both G! and IB), and threads were locked for all the reasons discussed in the TOS. There are still arguments about review covers (as there has been for years) as well as exactly what limits are in place for posts; suggesting any of this is something new seems strange.
LiquidSky
05-12-08, 12:36 PM
HARDLY NO ONE, IF ANYONE, WANTS TO GO TO XCRITIC AT ANY TIME.
That's odd since most of my reviews get thousands of hits.
Kittydreamer
05-12-08, 01:00 PM
That's odd since most of my reviews get thousands of hits.
I like your reviews. I think you write very well.
lordwow
05-12-08, 01:03 PM
That's odd since most of my reviews get thousands of hits.
Come on now Liquid, hitting refresh doesn't count.
lotsofdvds
05-12-08, 01:11 PM
That's odd since most of my reviews get thousands of hits.
From DVDTalk?
LiquidSky
05-12-08, 01:14 PM
Come on now Liquid, hitting refresh doesn't count.
:lol: That's not what I'm doing!
LiquidSky
05-12-08, 01:14 PM
I like your reviews. I think you write very well.
Thanks! :)
LiquidSky
05-12-08, 01:15 PM
From DVDTalk?
XCritic. :D
Tarantino
05-12-08, 02:50 PM
I believe he was referencing Otters, or people from the DVDTalk community. Sure, there are people who frequent XCritic. I'm guessing most of them aren't from our boards.
Congrats on your fanbase, though.
= J
DarkestPhoenix
05-12-08, 09:43 PM
That's odd since most of my reviews get thousands of hits.
My entire post referenced the closed Geoff thread in Otter, which tried to recruit us to go over to XCritic, though since Other was most affected by the changes, virtually no one has an interest in doing.
I would have no idea what your reviews do, but congrats.
I'm not surprised a porno site gets hits, though.
Darknite39
05-13-08, 01:14 AM
I go over to Xcritic from time to time to check out the adult talk forum (which I initially thought would just be an analogue to the forum that used to be here). It used to be filled with some of the most interesting (e.g., who's the oldest virgin) or laugh-out-loud (e.g., the thread from which part of my sig is derived) threads here, but the new forum is, well...different. It's kind of sad, really. Especially since we seem to be a tad more censored on the remaining dvdtalk boards than we have been in the past. If it gets bad enough that you all start a mass migration somewhere else, PM me and let me in on it. ;)
Rival11
05-13-08, 05:19 PM
I don't know if people understand what it takes to run a forum. I ran a very small message board for a few years and trust me, it's not all cake and pie. You have to deal with figuring out what's ok, what's not ok, members that don't like each other, members that are constantly breaking the rules...trust me, it's a nightmare. I'm shocked and disapointed at how poor Geoff was treated. All he wanted to know was if he made a "Otter" at Xcritic, would you go. A simple yes or no would be have been fine but no, some of you people had to stab the guy in the back, then twist that knife and then set him on fire. Seriously. Some of you should truly be ashamed of your behavior recently. Geoff's a good man and he ran an awesome site, for free may I add.
I have to kind of agree with this. While I'm not that well known, this is the only forum I've ever posted in for years. I know that after years of posting, I don't have much in common with too many people here but I still post anyway and enjoy others views.
To me, that says a lot about what type of community Geoff wanted and there are also many others who are not too found of forums stepping in and joining as well - this is something very few other forums/sites can accomplish.
Houstondon
05-13-08, 06:02 PM
My entire post referenced the closed Geoff thread in Otter, which tried to recruit us to go over to XCritic, though since Other was most affected by the changes, virtually no one has an interest in doing.
I would have no idea what your reviews do, but congrats.
I'm not surprised a porno site gets hits, though.
DP, we were referencing your comments about "no one" going to Xcritic when it is clear that a LOT of people are doing just that (from this website too) even if they aren't actively posting in the forums as much as G! might want. Liquid's "following" is due to the quality of his writing but those of us that actively contribute to both websites tend to find fault with sweeping generalizations. I again state that a simple "no thanks" by some providing nasty responses would have shown more class (and if G! seemed taken aback, it was mainly due to the sheer meanness of so many responses as well as the lack of respect given for the guy that provided everyone a forum for all these years; free of charge).
Trevor
05-13-08, 06:27 PM
Don, I agree that rudeness was inappropriate, and that we all owe Geoff a lot. He shaped a fantastic forum.
But just to be thorough, I don't think it was quite "free of charge". He made a profit from the ads and referrals, and we "paid" by using the referral links here instead of using sites that pay us the referral fee. If he paid all the server fees just to be magnanimous, then I apologize.
Houstondon
05-13-08, 06:33 PM
Trevor, it was (and remains) free to members (though technically, using ad blocking software changes that IIRC). As I said, I'm G!'s biggest supporter but so many here appear willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater that it's concerning...
PS: It's my understanding that very few people use the referral links (currently or historically) too. :shrug:
GatorDeb
05-13-08, 08:15 PM
Storm trooper: Lord Vader?
Vader: MASTER. MASTER. It's not Lord anymore. Didn't you get the memo?
Storm trooper: :sad:
GatorDeb
05-13-08, 08:24 PM
Hold on I just realized this... Geoff sold DVDTalk to go make an adult site? Wow. I didn't know.
Canadian Bacon
05-13-08, 08:36 PM
That's odd since most of my reviews get thousands of tits.
FIXED
cultshock
05-13-08, 11:56 PM
Just out of curiousity regarding the whole "free of charge" deal: are there any pay internet forums out there that have anywhere near the traffic that free ones like this one does? If there are, I'd be seriously surprised. Most that try are probably either filled with tumbleweeds or deal with matters of questionable legality. :lol:
pilot
05-14-08, 12:49 AM
Just out of curiousity regarding the whole "free of charge" deal: are there any pay internet forums out there that have anywhere near the traffic that free ones like this one does? If there are, I'd be seriously surprised. Most that try are probably either filled with tumbleweeds or deal with matters of questionable legality. :lol:
i think the biggest pay internet forum is somethingawful.com - they get craploads more traffic than here. they let you do stuff free though, but the more you pay the more things you can do. geoff was looking at a model similar to theirs, but it never panned out, partially due to the adult forum.
mbs
05-14-08, 01:02 AM
I wanted to help by letting the mods, et al, see what people really want. People want the old Otter and DVDTalk back.
Is this "change" that people keep noting a recent change or from long ago? I know I have not been around that long, however, I've noticed nothing change since IB bought the site.
Maybe this was a perceived change that occured pre-IB purchase and before my time?
Otherwise, I'm at a loss for what has changed in the past year. There was a clarification of the NSFW rules, but it wasn't any different pre-IB anyhow.
LiquidSky
05-14-08, 11:29 AM
FIXED
:lol: Nope. I write the all-male XXX reviews. :D
John Galt
05-14-08, 01:49 PM
As I said, I'm G!'s biggest supporter
We all realize that by the numerous "G!" references in every one of your posts. We get it. You two are friends. Just call him Geoff like everyone else does. It's not that hard to type out a few extra letters.
The Cow
05-14-08, 01:59 PM
We all realize that by the numerous "G!" references in every one of your posts. We get it. You two are friends. Just call him Geoff like everyone else does. It's not that hard to type out a few extra letters.
-popcorn-
I've see the long response when this was brought up before. Let's see what kind of rant/editorial you get. (Starting with "I will not!")
Josh-da-man
05-14-08, 02:13 PM
I think that the reason people don't want to go to XCritic is that it's that an unabashed PORN site.
The difference with the Adult section of the Other forum is that it was more like a lounge within a greater community where members who already knew each other could go, hang out, talk dirty, show some dirty pictures, and let their hair down.
When everyone is then expected to start meeting at a different place, then it changes the whole dynamic. You're not hanging out in the DVDTalk cocktail lounge, you're going to an adult bookstore where strangers are poking their junk at you through a glory hole.
Geoff's a great dude (and obviously loves him some porn) (as do I), but I believe he made a pretty severe miscalculation regarding breaking the adult subform away from the greater DVDTalk community.
LiquidSky
05-14-08, 02:16 PM
We all realize that by the numerous "G!" references in every one of your posts. We get it. You two are friends. Just call him Geoff like everyone else does. It's not that hard to type out a few extra letters.
Why are you being so pissy? When I e-mail Geoff, I call him G as well.
Goldblum
05-14-08, 02:22 PM
Why are you being so pissy? When I e-mail Geoff, I call him G as well. That's the way he signs his e-mail replies.
Yes, but hopefully you don't call him G factorial. -ohbfrank-
LiquidSky
05-14-08, 02:24 PM
And the DVD that came up at the top of the page when I clicked on this thread:
http://images.dvdtalk.com/covers/B0011B9W74.jpg
Disney is really branching out these days!
Yeah, I'm sure that image burnt holes in your eyes. :rolleyes:
Randy Miller III
05-14-08, 02:33 PM
It's not that hard to type out a few extra letters.
No problem, J!
Trevor
05-14-08, 02:46 PM
No problem, J!
I see what you did there R. :)
abrg923
05-14-08, 03:18 PM
We all realize that by the numerous "G!" references in every one of your posts. We get it. You two are friends. Just call him Geoff like everyone else does. It's not that hard to type out a few extra letters.
It's kinda funny...almost like he's trying to impress Geoff. I laugh every time I see it...it comes off as pathetic.
Mopower
05-14-08, 03:33 PM
It's kinda funny...almost like he's trying to impress Geoff. I laugh every time I see it...it comes off as pathetic.
But he needs to show everyone that him and Geoff are "tight" and that his comments have weight.
LiquidSky
05-14-08, 03:40 PM
Frankly, a number of you are acting like bitchy old women. Now that's pathetic.
abrg923
05-14-08, 03:50 PM
But he needs to show everyone that him and Geoff are "tight" and that his comments have weight.
That's exactly the impression I get.
Yet they really have zero weight, as he's not a moderator, admin, or member of staff at all.
Houstondon
05-14-08, 04:50 PM
I think that the reason some people don't want to go to XCritic is that it's that an unabashed PORN site.
fixed...and agreed.
Geoff's a great dude (and obviously loves him some porn) (as do I), but I believe he made a pretty severe miscalculation regarding breaking the adult subform away from the greater DVDTalk community.
He wanted to do something different in life so when IB made him an offer for the Non-adult parts of DVD Talk, he took it. IB could not have taken the adult/porn part of the website in the first place so he kept it rather than see it discarded. He was warned ahead of time that cultivating a populated adult forum would be difficult but the part that brings in the money to pay for stuff is doing fine (he'd just like the forums to be more active over there)
Frankly, a number of you are acting like bitchy old women. Now that's pathetic.
It's their personal insecurities at work. They really can't help being that way any more than they can't seem to realize how to offer constructive criticism when a website isn't exactly what they want it to be. (and they wonder why IB doesn't give a single whit about the couple dozen repeat complainers like them...sad) :cool:
PS: I am still an active reviewer at both sites and have a standing offer to OFFICIALLY play a more active role if I want to do so. To the repeat complainers; thanks for proving me right time and again...
DarkestPhoenix
05-14-08, 05:54 PM
DP, we were referencing your comments about "no one" going to Xcritic when it is clear that a LOT of people are doing just that (from this website too).
Okay, since it's clear a LOT of people are going over there in droves, don't come to me and ask me to consider going over to a piece of shit website to post on their 'busy' boards.
Fuck that place.
You want my posts? Give me back the place I used to post. Give me back the same environment in which I used to post. Otherwise, fuck off and leave me to stew over its loss.
It's really clear that place has tons of support from here. That's why your boy G! closed his thread when people spewed venom in the direction of XCritic. That's why the majority here in this thread hate that place, too. You say it's only a couple of detractors...WAKE UP. Reread the thread. If anything, there are only a handful of defenders for that place, and BIG FUCKING SURPRISE, IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WORK ON THAT SITE.
Keep on deluding yourself that you have an awesome product over there.
X
05-14-08, 06:09 PM
This thread has lived much longer than its usefulness so I'm closing it up.
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