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Darknite39
04-15-08, 01:51 AM
I've found myself fascinated with mysteries since I was a child, and while some of them no longer have a hold on me, I still can't seem to help myself whenever I encounter something to read or watch about the Zodiac, Jack the Ripper, or the death of George Reeves (I finally got around to watching Hollywoodland, which is the reason for my post). Really, anything that has an air of mystery about it can be quite enjoyable to read and think about (like, who was D.B. Cooper?).

I doubt that I'm alone in my interest in these things (which I'll admit are essentially time-wasters, momentarily diverting me from my real work). I'm wondering what else is out there that might be of interest to me.

Care to share some interesting mysteries? I'd certainly appreciate it!

Rockmjd23
04-15-08, 02:05 AM
Zodiac
Arthur Leigh Allen
Jack the Ripper
Sir William Gull
George Reeves
Eddie Mannix
who was D.B. Cooper?
Charles Westmoreland

Mysteries solved! ;)

bhk
04-15-08, 02:10 AM
The Mary Celeste

dugan
04-15-08, 03:24 AM
The Beal ciphers.

DeputyDave
04-15-08, 03:37 AM
Roanoke Colony

JonBenet Ramsey

darkflounder
04-15-08, 03:45 AM
The popularity of Paris Hilton.

E. Honda
04-15-08, 04:22 AM
Slayer2005 and whether or not he ever found true love with his Honey Clam.

Premise
04-15-08, 04:59 AM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6406/bigfootwince1te9.jpg

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3528/jfk4wideweb470x2910wincwa7.jpg

TGM
04-15-08, 05:26 AM
http://healthinmotion.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/twinkies-good.jpg

chrisih8u
04-15-08, 05:36 AM
Roswell

John Galt
04-15-08, 08:06 AM
Roanoke Colony

Seconded

TomOpus
04-15-08, 08:17 AM
Women

Bacon
04-15-08, 08:18 AM
Women
where's the mystery in them being heartless, cold blooded beings?



;)
The popularity of Paris Hilton.
couldn't agree more

The Bus
04-15-08, 08:21 AM
The Mary Celeste

:up:

(This day will live in infamy... I agree with bhk on something!)

The Bus
04-15-08, 08:21 AM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6406/bigfootwince1te9.jpg

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3528/jfk4wideweb470x2910wincwa7.jpg

I don't think Bigfoot was on the grassy knoll.

<hr>

And I'll add numbers stations, although they're not that mysterious.

Hiro11
04-15-08, 08:33 AM
Oak Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Island)
Bloop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop)

Kittydreamer
04-15-08, 10:38 AM
Where the hell my check book is right now.

printerati
04-15-08, 11:32 AM
I was just reading up on one last night, the various rumors about lost cosmonauts during the 1960's, some of whose transmissions were allegedly recorded by two Italian brothers who built their own listening post. Aerospaceweb.org (http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0235.shtml) has a good summary.

LiquidSky
04-15-08, 12:18 PM
The Black Dahlia

Chrisedge
04-15-08, 12:21 PM
Mystery Spot

starman9000
04-15-08, 12:23 PM
Giant Squid

Shannon Nutt
04-15-08, 12:27 PM
Even though I'm about 95% sure the right people were accused of the crime, both the Lindbergh baby kidnapping/murder and the JFK assassination have always fascinated me.

aJOHNymous
04-15-08, 12:39 PM
Alternate Focus: Conspiracy/Mystery


we never actually went to the moon???!?!??!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations)

OMGWTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!111


-popcorn-

My Other Self
04-15-08, 12:43 PM
I've always been intrigued by Jack the Ripper stories. Anytime something is on TV about it I'll drop what I'm doing and watch it.

CPA-ESQ.
04-15-08, 12:50 PM
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22474/normal_Jersey%20Devil.jpg

Jersey Devil

TheNightFlier
04-15-08, 12:53 PM
Bloop.

gilbertr76
04-15-08, 12:58 PM
I don't think Bigfoot was on the grassy knoll.
That's just what "they" want you to think... -ohbfrank-

Chrisedge
04-15-08, 01:06 PM
Alternate Focus: Conspiracy/Mystery


we never actually went to the moon???!?!??!! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_moon_landing_hoax_accusations)

OMGWTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!111


-popcorn-

What is amazing...

A Dittmar Associates poll in 2006 showed that among 18-26 year old college-educated students “27 percent expressed some doubt that NASA went to the Moon, with 10 percent indicating that it was ‘highly unlikely’ that a Moon landing had ever taken place.”

The Bus
04-15-08, 01:07 PM
That's a great way to find what % of people are complete idiots.

Save Ferris
04-15-08, 01:30 PM
Morgellons

LiquidSky
04-15-08, 01:47 PM
Mystery Spot

http://i28.tinypic.com/105s9d1.jpg

Dash
04-15-08, 02:13 PM
That's a great way to find what % of people are complete idiots.


One of my professors in Engineering at school gave us his thoughts on the moon landing. As an engineer myself, I am a little skeptical. I mean the technology needed for the accuracy of leaving earths orbit and reaching the moon on an exact trajectory needs to be pretty precise. Not to mention all the thermal calculations needed for exit and reentry.

I mean if you think of all that needed to be accomplished, there hasn’t been a huge change of technology since that time, just miniaturization of parts. So yes I have my doubts.

But then again when we spent something like 3-4% of our gnp on it. I guess many things can be done with those kinds of resources.


Edit- I know those are bad examples because with enough time and simulations, these calculations can be made. The bigger problem would be the return voyage where you have much less fuel and a slower velocity.
In other words I just dont think we had the technology to make everything work pefrect on the first try.

Save Ferris
04-15-08, 02:42 PM
Ive seen the video where the lighting rig fell down while they were getting into the lunar module!

MartinBlank
04-15-08, 02:49 PM
Building 7

























:D

Norm de Plume
04-15-08, 02:56 PM
Charles Westmoreland

Mysteries solved! ;)
Actually, some people over at Websleuths make a pretty convincing case that Cooper is somebody named Ted Mayfield: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44859

As to other crimes, one of the ones I am most interested in seeing solved is the East Area Rapist case out of California. He killed about a dozen couples in their homes in the late '70s, as well as raping dozens of women. http://www.ear-ons.com/

John Galt
04-15-08, 03:26 PM
I wouldn't mind solving the mystery of where Blackbeard's treasure is hidden.

aintnosin
04-15-08, 03:42 PM
I'd like to know where my other sock went.

Mordred
04-15-08, 03:56 PM
Roanoke Colony always fascinated me.

Thanks to this thread I've now heard of the bloop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop) which is pretty cool too.

aJOHNymous
04-15-08, 03:58 PM
I'd like to know where my other sock went.
Bureau of Missing Socks (http://www.funbureau.com/)

jdodd
04-15-08, 04:05 PM
Bloop.
Don't you people realize that was the Cloverfield monster? -ohbfrank-

Meglos
04-15-08, 04:07 PM
I'd like to know where my other sock went.

It's having an affair with the remote control that I can't find.

RunBandoRun
04-15-08, 04:07 PM
The disappearance of college student Paula Weldon from the Bennington, VT area in the late 1940s.

The Black Dahlia murder.

The location of the body of Keith Bennett, the last known victim of the Moors Murderers in England.

The identity of Little Miss 1565, a six-year-old girl who died in a fire at a circus in Hartford, CT on July 6, 1944. While a child has been identified and memorialized, some sources say it is NOT the right child.

ben12
04-15-08, 05:37 PM
One of my professors in Engineering at school gave us his thoughts on the moon landing. As an engineer myself, I am a little skeptical. I mean the technology needed for the accuracy of leaving earths orbit and reaching the moon on an exact trajectory needs to be pretty precise. Not to mention all the thermal calculations needed for exit and reentry.

I mean if you think of all that needed to be accomplished, there hasn’t been a huge change of technology since that time, just miniaturization of parts. So yes I have my doubts.

But then again when we spent something like 3-4% of our gnp on it. I guess many things can be done with those kinds of resources.


Edit- I know those are bad examples because with enough time and simulations, these calculations can be made. The bigger problem would be the return voyage where you have much less fuel and a slower velocity.
In other words I just dont think we had the technology to make everything work pefrect on the first try.Didn't we land on the moon a bunch of times? So it was fake EVERY time?

I could see faking it that first time, just so the record's America's, but I don't see why we'd keep pretending to go back, collecting pretend moonrocks, conducting fake experiments, etc.

Dash
04-15-08, 05:58 PM
Didn't we land on the moon a bunch of times? So it was fake EVERY time?

I could see faking it that first time, just so the record's America's, but I don't see why we'd keep pretending to go back, collecting pretend moonrocks, conducting fake experiments, etc.


Like I said, the first try. With a few more years of work, it is quite possible. I just dont know all the facts (the exact work put into making it work) to form a fully educated decision. Thats why I still have some doubt.

islandclaws
04-15-08, 06:02 PM
Anyone remember those 2 Coast Guard crew members in the Arctic last year that went in for a dive, were inexplicably dragged down more than 200ft in a matter of seconds, and then drowned?

I'd like to know how that happened. I've always fantasized it was some deep sea beastie.

mhg83
04-15-08, 06:07 PM
Florida

Liver&Onions
04-15-08, 06:12 PM
Anyone remember those 2 Coast Guard crew members in the Arctic last year that went in for a dive, were inexplicably dragged down more than 200ft in a matter of seconds, and then drowned?

I'd like to know how that happened. I've always fantasized it was some deep sea beastie.

Link? I've never heard of that one...

Kittydreamer
04-15-08, 06:22 PM
It's having an affair with the remote control that I can't find.
Yeah and it took my check book along for the ride. :(

gilbertr76
04-15-08, 06:41 PM
Anyone remember those 2 Coast Guard crew members in the Arctic last year that went in for a dive, were inexplicably dragged down more than 200ft in a matter of seconds, and then drowned?

I'd like to know how that happened. I've always fantasized it was some deep sea beastie.

She just wanted a little help getting the King's Trident... :shrug:

http://lnx.ginevra2000.it/Disney/sirenetta1/ursula.gif

aintnosin
04-15-08, 07:37 PM
One of my professors in Engineering at school gave us his thoughts on the moon landing. As an engineer myself, I am a little skeptical. I mean the technology needed for the accuracy of leaving earths orbit and reaching the moon on an exact trajectory needs to be pretty precise. Not to mention all the thermal calculations needed for exit and reentry.

I mean if you think of all that needed to be accomplished, there hasn’t been a huge change of technology since that time, just miniaturization of parts. So yes I have my doubts.
Sorry, but there is a huge hole in any "we didn't go to the moon" theory. That is: The Soviets would have had no trouble telling that the broadcasts of the first landing never came from the moon. You think they would have kept the secret for us? Not bloody likely. It really is that simple to prove (to my satisfaction) that Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin actually walked on the lunar surface on July 20, 1969.

Cusm
04-16-08, 01:34 AM
The disappearance of college student Paula Weldon from the Bennington, VT area in the late 1940s.



What about the other people that went missing from the same Mountain? They garner none of you curiosity?

;)

fumanstan
04-16-08, 01:59 AM
The Mary Celeste

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:HGE6ramXiRQHTM:http://bp0.blogger.com/_s02kJT0mWAw/ReW0OOR1TKI/AAAAAAAAACw/s6rMz1CKl3Y/s400/mama_celeste%255B1%255D.jpg

Shagrath
04-16-08, 08:24 AM
Anyone remember those 2 Coast Guard crew members in the Arctic last year that went in for a dive, were inexplicably dragged down more than 200ft in a matter of seconds, and then drowned?

I'd like to know how that happened. I've always fantasized it was some deep sea beastie.
I'd be interested in any info on this as well, but I'm guessing the most likely explanation is some kind of rip-current or something of that nature.

starman9000
04-16-08, 09:18 AM
Like I said, the first try. With a few more years of work, it is quite possible. I just dont know all the facts (the exact work put into making it work) to form a fully educated decision. Thats why I still have some doubt.


It seems like you are saying they could only have gone to the moon if Neil and Buzz died a horrible death the first try. It's not like they just drew up the plans and did that mission from scratch without numerous tests of the various phases. Neil and Buzz were the first to walk on the moon, not to go to there and back.

rw2516
04-16-08, 10:14 AM
The Texarkana killer from "The Town That Dreaded Sundown" that was never found.

We know for sure what happened to Hoffa yet?

Did that Melvin guy really give Howard Hughes a lift and was the will legit?

They ever find that squadron of planes that disappeared by Bermuda Triangle?

What's the real deal on Anatasia?

Did Brian Jones drown?

Did the cast and crew of "The Conqueror" get cancer from filming on a nuclear test site?

Save Ferris
04-16-08, 10:43 AM
I dare you to confront Buzz with your conspiracy theories

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greg9x
04-16-08, 12:43 PM
What's the real deal on Anatasia?


Just read about this couple weeks ago:

DNA Tests May Solve Tsarist Mystery (http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/1010/42/361717.htm)

wildman1037
04-16-08, 01:37 PM
Anyone remember those 2 Coast Guard crew members in the Arctic last year that went in for a dive, were inexplicably dragged down more than 200ft in a matter of seconds, and then drowned?

I'd like to know how that happened. I've always fantasized it was some deep sea beastie.Link? I've never heard of that one...


A Little Background (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1742783/posts)

Gunshy
04-16-08, 02:44 PM
A Little Background (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1742783/posts)

More here (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003523206_coastguard13m.html)

-Gunshy

Liver&Onions
04-16-08, 02:48 PM
More here (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003523206_coastguard13m.html)

-Gunshy

Thanks - now what about some info on the conspiracy of it all? Those links make it sound fairly cut & dry. Multiple someones fucked up.

Walter Neff
04-16-08, 05:55 PM
Black Dahlia is the big one for me, being a lifelong Angeleno.

james2025a
04-17-08, 11:57 AM
I have had a real life mystery happen to me. One night i was walking home from a girlfriends house and it was quite dark. At a certain point along the road i noticed something not too far away from me on the floor. The light from the street lamps was creating a shadow of a man (not myself). I stopped and looked looked around and then looked back at the shadow. There was no one else around and the shadow stopped with me. As i stand there the shadow starts moving on its own and starts running. I saw the distinct shadow of a man (arms, legs and head) running and i watched the shadow run off into the darkness. I looked around thinking it might have been a large bird of something....but i swear there was nothing even close to me, even near the lamp bulbs of the street lights. It shit me up no end i can tell you.

Maybe Lamont Cranston really does exist.

TheNightFlier
04-17-08, 12:02 PM
I have had a real life mystery happen to me. One night i was walking home from a girlfriends house and it was quite dark. At a certain point along the road i noticed something not too far away from me on the floor. The light from the street lamps was creating a shadow of a man (not myself). I stopped and looked looked around and then looked back at the shadow. There was no one else around and the shadow stopped with me. As i stand there the shadow starts moving on its own and starts running. I saw the distinct shadow of a man (arms, legs and head) running and i watched the shadow run off into the darkness. I looked around thinking it might have been a large bird of something....but i swear there was nothing even close to me, even near the lamp bulbs of the street lights. It shit me up no end i can tell you.

Maybe Lamont Cranston really does exist.

Shrooms are bad mmkay? ;)

MonkeyG
04-17-08, 01:04 PM
The Aurora sonic booms in the early 90's have always fascinated me. Remember hearing the booms once or twice in the early morning and watching the morning news reporting of yet another mystery sonic boom.

Haven't heard much since but I'm assuming the military has moved several generations ahead in terms of design and the Aurora has probably been retired already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_aircraft

A series of unusual sonic booms were detected in Southern California, beginning in mid to late 1991. On at least five occasions, these sonic booms were recorded by at least 25 of the 220 U.S. Geological Survey sensors across Southern California used to pinpoint earthquake epicenters. The incidents were recorded in June, October and November 1990, and late January 1991.[citation needed] Seismologists[attribution needed] estimate that the aircraft were flying at speeds between Mach 5 and 6 (3,300-4,000 mph) and at altitudes of 8-10 km (26,200-32,800 ft). The aircraft's flight path was in a north-northeast direction, consistent with flight paths to secret test ranges in Nevada. Seismologists say[attribution needed] that the sonic booms were characteristic of a smaller vehicle than the 37-meter long shuttle orbiter. Furthermore, neither the shuttle nor NASA's single SR-71B was operating on the days the booms were registered.[9] It is not definitively known if these events can be tied to the Aurora program or to other acknowledged or secret programs.[original research?]

In the article "In Plane Sight?" which appeared in the Washington City Paper on July 3, 1992 (p.12-13), one of the seismologists, Jim Mori, noted: "We can't tell anything about the vehicle. They seem stronger than other sonic booms that we record once in a while. They've all come on Thursday mornings about the same time, between 6 and 7 in the morning."[10]

Former NASA sonic boom expert Dom Maglieri studied the 15-year old sonic boom data from the California Institute of Technology and has deemed that the data showed "something at 90,000 feet, Mach 4 to Mach 5". He also said the booms did not look like booms from aircraft that had traveled through the atmosphere many miles away at LAX, rather, they appeared to be booms from a high-altitude aircraft directly above the ground moving at high speeds.[citation needed] The boom signatures of the two different aircraft patterns is wildly different.[11]

Hiro11
04-17-08, 01:39 PM
The Aurora sonic booms in the early 90's have always fascinated me. Remember hearing the booms once or twice in the early morning and watching the morning news reporting of yet another mystery sonic boom.
I read a book about Dreamland called... Dreamland. It was really interesting and starts with an amusing anecdote: the author and and Air Force colonel were touring an "aircraft graveyard" in Arizona in the mid seventies. While looking at a decommisioned B-52, the author noted a tiny black airplane with a blunt nose in the next space over. Asking the Colonel what it was, the author essentially got the "er... you didn't see that" response. A few years later, the D-21 was declassified.

Also, in my expert and entirely novel analysis of defense materials strategy, I don't buy the whole decommisioning of the SR-71s due to the improved capabilities of spy satellites. Satellites are not nearly as flexible as aircraft. Even with UAVs and other aircraft, it seems like there'd always be a real need for extremely fast surveillance aircraft, preferably with low observability. I'll bet they came up with a stealth SR-71 replacement in the late eighties/early ninties and have been using it ever since.

sophronia
04-19-08, 06:20 PM
I have had a real life mystery happen to me. One night i was walking home from a girlfriends house and it was quite dark. At a certain point along the road i noticed something not too far away from me on the floor. The light from the street lamps was creating a shadow of a man (not myself). I stopped and looked looked around and then looked back at the shadow. There was no one else around and the shadow stopped with me. As i stand there the shadow starts moving on its own and starts running. I saw the distinct shadow of a man (arms, legs and head) running and i watched the shadow run off into the darkness. I looked around thinking it might have been a large bird of something....but i swear there was nothing even close to me, even near the lamp bulbs of the street lights. It shit me up no end i can tell you.

Maybe Lamont Cranston really does exist.

So you saw The Shadow's shadow?

Dr Mabuse
04-19-08, 08:37 PM
real life mysteries...

did the Colossus actually stand astride the entrance to the harbor?...

who destroyed the nose of the Sphinx?...

what exact knowledge and history was lost in the fire at Alexandria?...

the Bloop already mentioned...

Shazam
04-19-08, 08:54 PM
How they get the caramel into the caramilk bar.

ardathbey
04-19-08, 09:39 PM
midiclorians

Mr. Salty
04-19-08, 10:16 PM
In other words I just dont think we had the technology to make everything work pefrect on the first try.
As starman has pointed out, your mistake is thinking that Apollo 11 was the first try.

Apollo 11 was the first attempt to land a manned vehicle on the moon, but unmanned probes has already been sent there successfully. And NASA was also drawing data from years of Mercury and Gemini missions, as well as other Apollo missions. Apollo 8, for example, sent a crew to lunar orbit and back. Other missions tested orbital rendezvous, etc.

IDrinkMolson
04-19-08, 11:28 PM
Cool thread.

JFK assassination
Easter Island
Stonehenge
Alien life/UFO

calhoun07
04-20-08, 02:42 AM
How many licks does it take to get the center of a Tootsie Roll Tootsie Pop?

rw2516
04-20-08, 07:17 AM
How many licks does it take to get the center of a Tootsie Roll Tootsie Pop?

One

Quake1028
04-20-08, 05:54 PM
D.B. Cooper.

FlickMan
04-20-08, 06:20 PM
How it was pulled off that Bush got in a second time

NCMojo
04-20-08, 07:28 PM
That's a great way to find what % of people are complete idiots.
Hey, isn't GWB's approval rating around 27%???

Dash
04-21-08, 01:50 PM
As starman has pointed out, your mistake is thinking that Apollo 11 was the first try.

Apollo 11 was the first attempt to land a manned vehicle on the moon, but unmanned probes has already been sent there successfully. And NASA was also drawing data from years of Mercury and Gemini missions, as well as other Apollo missions. Apollo 8, for example, sent a crew to lunar orbit and back. Other missions tested orbital rendezvous, etc.


Well I watched from the earth to the moon, So I have a little history on what happened. I wonder what the calculated sucess rate for the mission (Apollo 11) was.

Trevor
04-21-08, 03:46 PM
I just watched Capricorn One (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricorn_One) again last week.

calhoun07
04-21-08, 05:49 PM
One

That's only if you're and owl and have the beak powerful enough to get to the center after one lick.

I am not an owl and I don't have a beak, unfortunately.