John Adams - Part 4 "Reunion" 3/30/08
03-30-08, 02:26 AM
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John Adams - Part 4 "Reunion" 3/30/08
Rated TVPG: ADULT CONTENT
Running Time: 65 minutes
Genre: History, Drama
Running Time: 65 minutes
Genre: History, Drama
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03-30-08, 09:26 PM
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Another great episode. Loved the scene with the King...awkward!. And I could watch hours, and hours, and hours of these Adams/Franklin/Jefferson conversations.
03-31-08, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Merkin Muffley
Another great episode. Loved the scene with the King...awkward!. And I could watch hours, and hours, and hours of these Adams/Franklin/Jefferson conversations.
SECONDED! I love every second of these scenes, and if each of these actors isn't nominated for an emmy (along with the cast of the Wire, mind you), then there is no justice, and the good judgement of the American people is truly lost forever.
I love the portrayal of Jefferson. I said this in a previous post, but he has such an analytical sort of detachment from the process he is taking part in that betrays his brilliance.
I'm also loving how they are portraying the friendship/rivalry between he and Adams that has become so famous. Adams' inherent distrust of Man and his greed, and his belief in a firm and established rule of law. Jefferson's inherent faith in Man and his understanding of philosophical evolution and the belief that men must change with the times... as, too, should their society.
"I shall miss your company, Mr. Jefferson." "And I shall miss yours, Mrs. Adams." - Brilliant.
The scene of Adams' audience with the king was quite impressive. You can plainly see why Adams favored the British in his later debates with Jefferson. Hid behavior and tact at the Court of St. James was in stark contrast to his many faux pas at the Palais de l' Elysées.
Random observations:
Ben Franklin, again, contues to be my favorite person ever.
John Quincy continues to be a poncy douche.
Charles, it seems, bridges the gap between the "Colonial New Englander" of the revolution and the "Retahded Boston Ass" of today.
It seems that Washington, like Superman, remains the perfect boyscout (slaves notwithstanding) and his nervousness at reciting the oath (and his endowing it with the solemnity it entails, rather than playing to the crowd with a booming oratory) was quite touching.
Adams back-handed Vice Presidential "thank you" to the assembly before Washingtons arrival had me in stitches, as does any instance where his pride and indignation flare up.
Next week looks awesome.
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03-31-08, 07:57 AM
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It was nice to see Adams' frustration with not being a participant in the Constitution process.
The scene with the King was excellent, as was GW's soft-spokenness in undertaking the oath.
The scene with the King was excellent, as was GW's soft-spokenness in undertaking the oath.
03-31-08, 08:54 AM
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George III's conversation with John Adams seemed like a parent that acceded to a child's wishes against the parent's judgment: "I pray, Mr. Adams, that the United States does not suffer unduly from its want of a monarchy."
Great scene -- only Adams could go to England.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams
Great scene -- only Adams could go to England.
Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain referred to this episode in July 7, 1976 at the White House. She said, "John Adams, America's first Ambassador, said to my ancestor, King George III, that it was his desire to help with the restoration of 'the old good nature and the old good humor between our peoples.' That restoration has long been made, and the links of language, tradition, and personal contact have maintained it."
03-31-08, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wishbon3
George III's conversation with John Adams seemed like a parent that acceded to a child's wishes against the parent's judgment: "I pray, Mr. Adams, that the United States does not suffer unduly from its want of a monarchy."
Great scene -- only Adams could go to England.
Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain referred to this episode in July 7, 1976 at the White House. She said, "John Adams, America's first Ambassador, said to my ancestor, King George III, that it was his desire to help with the restoration of 'the old good nature and the old good humor between our peoples.' That restoration has long been made, and the links of language, tradition, and personal contact have maintained it."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams
Great scene -- only Adams could go to England.
Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain referred to this episode in July 7, 1976 at the White House. She said, "John Adams, America's first Ambassador, said to my ancestor, King George III, that it was his desire to help with the restoration of 'the old good nature and the old good humor between our peoples.' That restoration has long been made, and the links of language, tradition, and personal contact have maintained it."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams
I'd never heard that before, great quote!
-Doc
04-01-08, 07:40 AM
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Another vote for "great scene with the King".
So exactly how long was Adams away from his children? John Quincy grows up that much since we last saw him?
So exactly how long was Adams away from his children? John Quincy grows up that much since we last saw him?
04-01-08, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Chew
Another vote for "great scene with the King".
So exactly how long was Adams away from his children? John Quincy grows up that much since we last saw him?
So exactly how long was Adams away from his children? John Quincy grows up that much since we last saw him?
I think it was about 8 years.
04-01-08, 08:02 AM
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I can't wait for the next phase and what I assume will be the introduction of one Alexander Hamilton and the ensuing friction between Adams and him.
04-01-08, 08:48 AM
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Loved this episode - I was worried that the guy standing next to the throne was not the king - he looked much shorter than the throne, and I wondered why the king would stand next to the throne. He looked uncomfortable, so I was afraid Adams was giving his speech and bowing to the Kings assistant.
What is up with the FLIES??
Any one else out there with a good audio 5.1 setup - hear all the flies?
What is up with the FLIES??
Any one else out there with a good audio 5.1 setup - hear all the flies?
04-02-08, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ.
Loved this episode - I was worried that the guy standing next to the throne was not the king - he looked much shorter than the throne, and I wondered why the king would stand next to the throne. He looked uncomfortable, so I was afraid Adams was giving his speech and bowing to the Kings assistant.
Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ.
What is up with the FLIES??
Any one else out there with a good audio 5.1 setup - hear all the flies?
Any one else out there with a good audio 5.1 setup - hear all the flies?
2 - infrequent baths
3 - shitty (pun intended) to nonexistant sanitation system
4 - Fly swatter not invented until 1905 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_swatter)
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04-14-08, 03:57 PM
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John Adams Meets King George III
John Adams Meets King George III
