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Old 12-18-07, 10:57 PM
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Universal's 9 Disc Gangster Collection: American Gangster, Casino, Scarface, Carlito

This was on the adsheet for American Gangster on DVDactive.

What interests me is that it's a 9-disc set. If it only includes the four movies, that means the Casino Anniversary Edition and Carlito's Way Ultimate Editions are being issued, finally, as two-disc sets and not Universal's horrible, terrible flippers, plus a bonus DVD.

I love Casino, like Scarface, want to see American Gangster and didn't hate Carlito's Way so if this is what's going on I might pick this set up.
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Problem: I have all of them with the exception of the unreleased American Gangster.

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there's three different scarface versions which one will be included?

With the exception of scarface i dont own any of those titles, i'll probabley pick this one up.
Old 12-19-07, 01:10 AM
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Presumably the more recent Scarface 2-disc SE with the bullet/language counter and video game trailer.
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I haven't gotten around to getting Scarface or Casino yet, so I may end up getting the box set, just to knock all of them out at once.
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Maybe they'll but Carlito's Way 2 and Empire in this set.
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
Maybe they'll but Carlito's Way 2 and Empire in this set.

I hope not.
Old 12-19-07, 09:56 AM
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I have none of those. If it's a good price, I may bite.
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I've seen Scarface, but don't own it. I haven't seen Casino yet, but I want to see it. Never seen Carlito either, but I'll give it a go, and I want to see American Gangster, and was going to buy the DVD anyway.

If the price is good, this will be a great buy.
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Hmmm...this could be a great pick-up for me depending on the price
Old 12-19-07, 04:03 PM
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if its indeed 2 disc versions of casino and carlito's way, ill get it just for that.
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What makes two discs so much better than a flipper disc? You still have to get up to change it, and if it is just for the artwork, most dvds coming out now don't have disc artwork anyway.
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Throw out Carlito's Way and you've got yourself a solid set there.
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Originally Posted by Imail724
What makes two discs so much better than a flipper disc? You still have to get up to change it, and if it is just for the artwork, most dvds coming out now don't have disc artwork anyway.
It's nicer to have two discs you have to worry about one side of rather than one disc you have to worry about both sides of. Additionally, lots of people have players that have problems with flipper discs.

In any case one of the movies in question is Casino, a movie deserving of the two disc treatment despite the extra ten cents it costs Universal to press a second DVD, just like most if not all of their terrible flippers.
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Originally Posted by GreenVulture
Throw out Carlito's Way and you've got yourself a solid set there.
[HELL NO]! Carlito's Way > Scarface
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Originally Posted by TattedBigMan
[HELL NO]! Carlito's Way > Scarface
Seconded.
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WHAT?! Scarface isn't nearly as good as P. Diddy says it is but it's still a very, very good film. Carlito's Way just didn't work for me at all. Casino is easily better than both and highly superior to American Gangster.

I'd rate the set like this:

Casino > Scarface > American Gangster > Carlito's Way
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Casino > Carlito's Way > Scarface > American Gangster
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Carlito's Way has a sequel?

WTF.

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Not a big fan of Carlito's Way.
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Originally Posted by Imail724
What makes two discs so much better than a flipper disc? You still have to get up to change it, and if it is just for the artwork, most dvds coming out now don't have disc artwork anyway.
In terms of Casino, the problem wasn't that it was just a flipper, but that many, many people reported serious problems with the double sided disc, either freezing up during the movie and/or during the extra features on the flip side. (The movie is on one disc, so you don't have to get up to change it.) Instead of Universal acknowledging the problem, they merely re-released Casino as a single-sided disc and left off all the extra features from the other side. If they had just gone through the "slight" inconvenience of releasing it as a properly-pressed 2 disc special edition to begin with, they could have avoided the problem.

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I was in Costco yesterday and saw this:

http://www.amazon.com/Donnie-Brasco-...8163674&sr=1-8

Wonder if the feature on the bonus disc of this set is the same as the one that will be used for this new set. Did it air on TV first? Anybody see it and have a review?

I'm in for this new set if the extra feature is worth having, but mostly I'm in for the possible two disc versions of Carlito and Casino. I'm one of those people burned by the crappy quality of the Casino flipper.
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Originally Posted by cardaway
I'm in for this new set if the extra feature is worth having, but mostly I'm in for the possible two disc versions of Carlito and Casino. I'm one of those people burned by the crappy quality of the Casino flipper.
I'm amazed reading through this thread; I just assumed my disc got scratched or something and that was why I could never get through Casino without it locking up. I just hocked it a few years ago, and even though it's one of my favorites, never bothered picking it up again because I figured it's a flipper and it'd get easily scratched again.
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Originally Posted by DeltaSigChi4
Problem: I have all of them with the exception of the unreleased American Gangster.

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In the same boat. Saw the title of the post, and thought "that sounds like an awesome set" then said, wait. I already have them.
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Originally Posted by chris_sc77
Casino > Carlito's Way > Scarface > American Gangster

Agreed!

American Gangster is essentially just a rip off of those other 3 except for a gangster genre pic, they didn't set-up the characters properly in regard to how the plot deals with them. There is no foil for the anti-hero to compare to, Denzel and Crowe's characters are set up as parrallels, which is completely useless. Cuba's part should have been fleshed out to explore the contrast in style to Denzel's character or conversely the bad cop should have been fleshed out more to compare the contrast in style to Crowe. Spending the entire film comparing Crowe and Denzel killed the entire movie, since they were the same character, people who were good at what they did by differing from their collegues, but also not the best of people morally speaking.

Casino had Nicky vs Sam, Carlito's Way had Carlito vs Penn and Benny from the Bronx (small role with major impact), and Scarface had Tony vs everyone else who seemed rational in comparrison. (But, also Manny)

American Gangster had Denzel = Crowe = 1 trick pony...yeah, the film looked great, but at the end of the day there was nothing there to seperate it from the other 3 films in this set.

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