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Davo1224
12-14-07, 02:03 AM
I watched Aeon Flux tonight for the first time. I really enjoyed it and thought there was never a dull moment. I also enjoyed the subtle/not-so-subtle political arguments in it. I go to check the reviews on here and it's panned. I usually agrees with the reviews on here so then I figured I'd cross-check the reviews with some movies I thought were horrible.

Superbad is "Highly Recommended" across the board.

WTF?!

One of the reviews for Aeon Flux was essentially "I don't get it" so they tried to lump it in as an action movie that relied on special effects. The others were more of the same just not stated so obviously. If you can't understand/remember all the parts of a story being told then you have no right to comment on whether or not it is cohesive.

You wanna call a movie bad, sure. That's your opinion. However, when you turn around and call a myspace-come-to-life utter waste of two hours built on the premise toilet humor a blowaway movie, it's beyond absurd.

EDIT: Thanks for the move. I clicked on the forum above this one instead.

The Monkees
12-14-07, 02:08 AM
Okay, Aeon Flux was not so great. Superbad is slightly overrated. I'm sure I will be attacked for that one. I'm sorry in advance.

Seantn
12-14-07, 02:45 AM
Wrong forum.

SterlingBen
12-14-07, 02:52 AM
All the guys I know under 25 loved Superbad, myself included. All the over 30's of which I don't know many hated it.

I don't know how old you are but you seem to have hit that old man stage, not that that is necessarily a bad thing, now you'll enjoy all of those Criterion Collection movies you used to find boring. <--At least that seems to be the trend I notice.

JZ1276
12-14-07, 02:55 AM
yeah these long-drawn out comedies I dont get like Superbad / Knocked Up. Although there were funny moments in both of them, IMO they were both wayyy too long and dragged.

Ravid
12-14-07, 03:05 AM
I don't know how old you are but you seem to have hit that old man stage, not that that is necessarily a bad thing, now you'll enjoy all of those Criterion Collection movies you used to find boring. <--At least that seems to be the trend I notice.

I own a few Criterions and Superbad, where do I fit in?

Drexl
12-14-07, 03:07 AM
I don't know how old you are but you seem to have hit that old man stage, not that that is necessarily a bad thing, now you'll enjoy all of those Criterion Collection movies you used to find boring. <--At least that seems to be the trend I notice.

Right, because older men dig Aeon Flux?

Rubix
12-14-07, 04:58 AM
aeon flux and criterion. a match made in heaven.

toddly6666
12-14-07, 05:08 AM
Aeon Flux a good movie? If this movie is entertaining, then what do you consider a boring film?

Anubis2005X
12-14-07, 05:55 AM
Don't worry about what other people think. All that matters is if you like it or not. Take The Fifth Element for example. I love the film, but there are those crazies out there who think it's crap.

By the way, move to MOVIE forum...

Mr. Salty
12-14-07, 05:55 AM
You wanna call a movie bad, sure. That's your opinion. However, when you turn around and call a myspace-come-to-life utter waste of two hours built on the premise toilet humor a blowaway movie, it's beyond absurd.
No, it's also an opinion. It's just one that differs from yours.

You've got a lot of balls asking "How is this possible?" just because someone disagrees with you.

And I disagree with the age excuse for "Superbad." My friends and I all range from 35-45 and we all loved it.

Brian Shannon
12-14-07, 06:58 AM
"I usually agrees"

Well in this case you didn't agree. People like different things, that is how it is possible.

nateman
12-14-07, 08:18 AM
I own a few Criterions and Superbad, where do I fit in?
Go directly to hell-->

Really though, people can like/hate whatever the hell they want. I know quite a few members here hate Forrest Gump, but I love it. My only problem is that people sometimes get confused between a bad movie and a movie they dislike. Just because the movie doesn't fulfill your enjoyment, it doesn't mean it's a bad film.

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr.
12-14-07, 10:11 AM
Superbad was super bad

davidoflondon
12-14-07, 10:35 AM
I also find it incredible that people can like movies that I don't enjoy. Or equally as bad dislike movies I really enjoy. In future I'm planning on letting everyone know which movies I like/dislike and then woebetide anyone who dares to have a different opinion.

Davo1224
12-14-07, 11:51 AM
The issue wasn't that people had a differing opinion. I just didn't understand why I had the complete opposite opinion as compared to a bunch of different people. I was wondering if I missed something or if there were any better reasons as to why AF was panned/SB was heralded.

Supermallet
12-15-07, 06:20 AM
Everyone has opinions that go against the popular tide. I do have to ask, though, have you seen the original Aeon Flux TV show?

Houstondon
12-15-07, 07:35 AM
I just didn't understand why I had the complete opposite opinion as compared to a bunch of different people.
Dave, having a "complete opposite opinion" is not a bad thing. Each of us are individuals and bring something unique to the world. I haven't seen either of the movies you mention but I'd be curious to read what you really liked about the one and hated about the other.

PS: I liked Forest Gump and The Fifth Element a lot myself but it doesn't mean those that panned either are stupid, dumb, or illiterate; they just have different tastes...

JamesDFarrow
12-15-07, 07:46 AM
Most reviews are going to be affected by the reviewer's likes and dislikes going into the review. The best reviewers try to supress these and do their best to provide as unbiased an opinion as they can. But some likes and dislikes may be subconsious so it can be difficult at times.

So you are going to get different opinions on the same movie, show, etc... An example is Shrek the Third. In the reviews section here there is Recommended and Rent It for the same DVD. So which is it? Well it's both.
Depends on your likes and dislikes. Not everyone is the same.

I always take reviews with a grain of salt. If all the reviews say "skip it" for example, it probably is a crummy movie. If they all say "Highly Recommended, for another example, then it's probably good. You notice I said "probably" as your likes and dislikes may not be in the same stream as the many reviewers.

When I see a variety of reviews (from Highly Recommended to Skip It) I just look for the snippits of info in each one that I can use, based on my likes and dislikes, to make a decision. In my case, for example, - lots of action = good. lots of musical numbers = bad. That sort of thing.

I like the reviews section here as there can be multiple reviews of the same DVD so you can get different opinions, info, etc... Most review places just have one review. I think it is one of the many reasons that make DVDTALK stand out over the others.

James

Paul Mavis
12-15-07, 09:42 AM
Most reviews are going to be affected by the reviewer's likes and dislikes going into the review. The best reviewers try to supress these and do their best to provide as unbiased an opinion as they can. But some likes and dislikes may be subconsious so it can be difficult at times.
I totally disagree with this, but I don't want that whole "biased/unbiased" thing to start up again from a couple of months ago. That went on forever.
:)

Kurtie Dee
12-15-07, 11:54 AM
I must break out the old Review-Right 2000, the movie reviewing software that evaluates movies solely based on algorithms that take into account verifiable quantitative evidence. It has a 25% accuracy rating, but it's getting better! It has a few extra functions, and when I keyed in some data from this thread this is the verdict it rendered:

SuperBad > Aeon Flux
Rhianna > Radiohead
A Is For Alibi > To Kill a Mockingbird
Apples > Oranges

The Review-Right is never wrong! ;)

benedict
12-15-07, 12:29 PM
I'm over 25 and liked Superbad.

I regarded Aeon Flux as eye candy, somewhat thin on plot and not on a par with Logan's Run (1976).

DVDsAreMyLIFE
12-15-07, 03:24 PM
I tend to think my opinion on movies goes unbiased, with that, I did not enjoy Aeon Flux very much, good action and such but no plot. Superbad on the other hand, was definitely a favorite.

jrobinson
12-15-07, 03:33 PM
People like different things, that is how it is possible.
DING! I think we have a winner.

Supermallet
12-15-07, 05:48 PM
I must break out the old Review-Right 2000, the movie reviewing software that evaluates movies solely based on algorithms that take into account verifiable quantitative evidence. It has a 25% accuracy rating, but it's getting better! It has a few extra functions, and when I keyed in some data from this thread this is the verdict it rendered:

SuperBad > Aeon Flux
Rhianna > Radiohead
A Is For Alibi > To Kill a Mockingbird
Apples > Oranges

The Review-Right is never wrong! ;)

60% of the time this baby works...every time.

Joe Molotov
12-15-07, 11:37 PM
I didn't think Superbad was quite as good as it had been hyped it be, but Aeon Flux was just fucking garbage. Anything over 1-star for that movie is being generous.