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mrpayroll
10-24-07, 06:13 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071024/bs_nm/facebook_dc_4

Microsoft clinches Facebook deal

By Daisuke Wakabayashi
1 hour, 13 minutes ago

SEATTLE (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp (MSFT.O) beat out rival Google Inc (GOOG.O) on Wednesday in a battle to invest in socializing Web site Facebook, agreeing to pay $240 million for a roughly 1.6 percent stake in the Web phenomenon and expand a deal to sell advertising.

Microsoft and Facebook said the $240 million investment valued Facebook at $15 billion, which analysts said was a steep price and a bet the young company would be able to transform itself into a hub for all sorts of Web activity.

"The only way this works is if Facebook becomes sort of the users' operating system on the Internet -- everyone logs into Facebook every day to get in contact with their friends and use a multitude of future applications that will be developed for it," said Morningstar analyst Toan Tran.

Facebook, a social network that lets friends and colleagues share information among themselves, already has allowed developers to create games and other applications specifically for its site, whose popularity makes it extremely valuable to advertising sellers such as Microsoft and Google.

Some 250,000 new users register on Facebook each day, Microsoft and Facebook said.

Microsoft said it would be the exclusive third-party advertising platform for Facebook, which has more than 49 million Internet users. That extends a previous deal into Facebook sites outside the United States.

Google and Microsoft, now rivals for Internet-based audiences and applications, each expressed interest in a minority stake in Facebook for its growing user base and advertising potential.

The rivals have butted heads before for Internet properties. Google beat Microsoft with a $1.65 billion acquisition of online video sharing site YouTube last year.

Forrester Research analyst Charlene Li said that Microsoft was a better strategic fit for Facebook, since it knew how to work with software developers and build computing environments -- such as its Windows operating system.

"Microsoft is a company that knows how to build platforms, knows how to develop relationships with developers. Microsoft developed the network that is the biggest, most vibrant one out there," she said. "Frankly, Google didn't bring as much to the deal."

Google Co-founder Sergey Brin told a meeting with Wall Street analysts at the company's Silicon Valley headquarters that his company could partner with important Web sites.

"We don't feel, at a higher level, that we need to own every successful company on the Internet," he said.

Shares of Microsoft rose slightly to $31.47 from a Nasdaq close of $31.25, while Google ticked down to $675 from a close of $675.82.

(Reporting by Daisuke Wakabayashi in Seattle, Eric Auchard in San Francisco, additional reporting by Paul Thomasch in New York)


I only signed up with Facebook a couple of months ago. I don't use it much, yet. A $15B value after just 3 or 4 years of existence. That's pretty impressive.

I've had more contacts with myyearbook.com and of course myspace.com

Chris

nevermind
10-24-07, 06:24 PM
Some people thought the founder was nuts when he turned down a billion from Yahoo. Guess he knew something they didn't. Or had blind stupid luck!

Birrman54
10-24-07, 06:28 PM
Some people thought the founder was nuts when he turned down a billion from Yahoo. Guess he knew something they didn't. Or had blind stupid luck!

I think he's turned down several offers, first the $1B (response: We're worth at least $5B), and then something like $5B (response: We're worth at least $9B)

and so on.

I admit, I would've sold out the moment 10 figures were on the table.

El Scorcho
10-24-07, 06:32 PM
The myspace and facebook acquisitions in recent years only pinpoint just how badly Brad Fitzpatrick fucked things up at livejournal. Livejournal was the first of these major social networking sites (starting in 1999) and was eventually sold for a very tiny sum over $1,000,000.

Livejournal had the market cornered but just couldn't execute things properly.

pedagogue
10-24-07, 07:04 PM
15 billion.......:lol:

-p

Decadance
10-24-07, 08:16 PM
15 Billion...and most frequently used for...getting ass.

nickdawgy
10-24-07, 08:59 PM
15 Billion...and most frequently used for...getting ass.

You're thinking Myspace. I thought Facebook was aimed at the more mature crowd.

DJLinus
10-24-07, 09:08 PM
You're thinking Myspace. I thought Facebook was aimed at the more mature crowd.

Yeah, it is. Ever since discovering Facebook, I've pretty much ditched MySpace. I got tired of all of the blinged out pages and endless spam friend requests from women who would probably not want to be my "friend" in real life.

Some claim it's not an age thing, but a matter of class: http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html

Either way, I'm a lot more happy with Facebook.

Decadance
10-24-07, 09:17 PM
You're thinking Myspace. I thought Facebook was aimed at the more mature crowd.

I don't know how you define mature...but when I am 80...I pretty sure I still going to enjoy a good vagina every now and then.

Anubis2005X
10-24-07, 09:22 PM
I don't know how you define mature...but when I am 80...I pretty sure I still going to enjoy a good episode of Matlock every now and then.

Fixed.

porieux
10-24-07, 09:31 PM
I'm pretty sure you could build a better version of that site for 1/100th of that amount.
You could then spend an insane amount promoting it to build the userbase, still have a lot left over, and control it completely. Not much to that site at all.

The Bus
10-24-07, 10:57 PM
I joined Facebook maybe a year ago but didn't actually do anything with it. I started using it in March of this year and it's just an easier way to connect with some friends. I used to use Friendster but I think that came a bit too early. MySpace I never had an interest in.

I apparently also signed up for MiGente.com a while ago and I constantly get friend requests from hot girls (that are invariably in Miami). I don't even know how or why considering my page has no information on it.

DVD Josh
10-24-07, 11:18 PM
I apparently also signed up for MiGente.com a while ago and I constantly get friend requests from hot girls (that are invariably in Miami). I don't even know how or why considering my page has no information on it.

They must figure a man named "The Bus" would know how to drive it home.

DJLinus
10-25-07, 07:13 AM
I apparently also signed up for MiGente.com a while ago and I constantly get friend requests from hot girls (that are invariably in Miami). I don't even know how or why considering my page has no information on it.

Sounds like what's been plaguing MySpace. Every day I get a handful of friend requests from hot girls, but they turn out to be thinly veiled ads for dating or porn sites. Annoying.

It wouldn't be so bad if you could at least see some bigger pictures or something, but all of the profiles of these "girls" just have a single thumbnail. C'MON!

Breakfast with Girls
10-25-07, 09:54 AM
I'm pretty sure you could build a better version of that site for 1/100th of that amount.
You could then spend an insane amount promoting it to build the userbase, still have a lot left over, and control it completely. Not much to that site at all.Sure, with enough money or skill you could almost definitely build a better version of the site (although their technological platform seems extremely well-designed). But good luck getting 50 million users.

al_bundy
10-25-07, 09:55 AM
do they make any money and how much is profit? Amazon used to lose money for years and their revenues were over $1 billion a year back then

Minor Threat
10-25-07, 10:19 AM
do they make any money and how much is profit? Amazon used to lose money for years and their revenues were over $1 billion a year back then

From Wikipedia:

The site is free to users and generates revenue from advertising including banner ads and sponsored groups (in April 2006, revenue was rumored to be over $1.5 million per week).[8] Users create profiles that often contain photos and lists of personal interests, exchange private or public messages, and join groups of friends. The viewing of detailed profile data is restricted to users from the same network or confirmed friends. According to TechCrunch, "about 85% of students in [previously] supported colleges have a profile [on the site]. [Of those who are signed up,] 60% log in daily. About 85% log in at least once a week, and 93% log in at least once a month." According to Chris Hughes, spokesman for Facebook, "People spend an average of 19 minutes a day on Facebook."[9] In a 2006 study conducted by Student Monitor, a New Jersey-based limited liability company specialising in research concerning the college student market, Facebook was named as the second most "in" thing among undergraduates, tied with beer and sex and losing only to the iPod.[10]

fumanstan
10-25-07, 10:40 AM
Sure, with enough money or skill you could almost definitely build a better version of the site (although their technological platform seems extremely well-designed). But good luck getting 50 million users.

Exactly... the existing user base is huge, and that's the biggest obstacle in launching a successful site. And i agree, Facebook is pretty well designed as is.

The Bus
10-25-07, 10:51 AM
What a sad state of affairs when the iPod and/or Facebook are as good/better than sex. What a sad, sad fucking state of affairs.