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PixyJunket
12-24-07, 09:36 AM
I'm saving them but I replayed the first two levels because my friends wanted to see the game and I did one save, one harvest. My only real complaint on the game is that the hacking mini-game is kind of annoying once you get to the harder ones since they're often just unsolvable or, on the safes, you have about three seconds to uncover one specific piece to reroute it from the corner before it starts. That's not challenging, it's annoying.

Michael Corvin
12-24-07, 01:06 PM
Thats what the tonics are for.

edstein
12-24-07, 01:50 PM
While hacking is cool, it's too repetative. They should have had a couple of different types of hacks, not just pipes. I'm pissed that I missed a few of the recordings. I thought that I had got them all. I don't think I'll go back and get those.

The Bus
12-25-07, 06:35 AM
I'm saving them but I replayed the first two levels because my friends wanted to see the game and I did one save, one harvest. My only real complaint on the game is that the hacking mini-game is kind of annoying once you get to the harder ones since they're often just unsolvable or, on the safes, you have about three seconds to uncover one specific piece to reroute it from the corner before it starts. That's not challenging, it's annoying.

I got around that by equipping a lot of hacking tonics.

CKMorpheus
12-25-07, 10:56 PM
Lets hope with Christmas just ending we'll get a lot more Game of the Year comments from people who are just starting!

DRG
12-25-07, 11:40 PM
While hacking is cool, it's too repetative. They should have had a couple of different types of hacks, not just pipes.

I agree. In the very least they should have had a different type of hacking minigame for each type of object. Vending machine, health stations, safes, cameras, turrets, and robots each should have had a different hacking game.

JasonF
12-26-07, 01:31 AM
If you think hacking is bad in Bioshock, don't play Mass Effect!

PixyJunket
12-26-07, 08:42 AM
I finished it up on Christmas morning.. all the other achievements all came rather naturally to me so at the end I didn't mind looking up what audio diaries I was missing (which ended up being only three.. all behind crawl doors) to get that one. I apparently played very thoroughly. I can definitely see myself playing this again and again.

If you think hacking is bad in Bioshock, don't play Mass Effect!Dammit. :lol:

parrotheads4
12-26-07, 09:36 AM
I also saw that this download fixes the widescreen resolution issues.

Does anyone know what the new plasmids will do to your game already in progress?

Just curious: I have not hooked my 360 up for on-line use. Is there a way to download patches to my computer - burn to disc then put the disc in the 360 to update? My router is on th top floor and my 360 is in the basement so I don't know when I'll be getting around to hooking it up.

astrochimp
12-26-07, 08:34 PM
Lets hope with Christmas just ending we'll get a lot more Game of the Year comments from people who are just starting!

I just started into it today although i had played the demo when i got my 360 a couple months ago.Incredible game with each and every moment of it so interesting and enjoyable.My heart jumped when i saw a Big Daddy for the first time :lol:

darkside
12-26-07, 09:35 PM
I've played a large number of the GOTY candidates and this is still my favorite of 2007. Orange Box and Mario Galaxy are damn close, but nothing was as fun as playing Bioshock. Never had issues with the hacking, but it is much easier on the PC and the tonics and tools make them quick and painless for the most part.

argh923
12-30-07, 07:54 PM
Finally beat this today. One complaint about the end...

Fontaine was ridiculously easy. I couldn't believe it...I didn't even use a first aid kit fighting him.

Loved the twist.

Two questions, though. First off, can someone explain the ending you get when you harvest the Sisters? I think I understand it as meaning that

you let the greed and lust for power go to your head, and unleash Rapture on all of the world

is that right?

And can someone spoil the "save the sisters" ending? I'll play through it again at some point, but...with all the games I have to catch up on, that won't happen anytime soon.

CKMorpheus
12-30-07, 08:04 PM
Finally beat this today. One complaint about the end...

Fontaine was ridiculously easy. I couldn't believe it...I didn't even use a first aid kit fighting him.

Loved the twist.

Two questions, though. First off, can someone explain the ending you get when you harvest the Sisters? I think I understand it as meaning that

you let the greed and lust for power go to your head, and unleash Rapture on all of the world

is that right?

And can someone spoil the "save the sisters" ending? I'll play through it again at some point, but...with all the games I have to catch up on, that won't happen anytime soon.

I forget most of the details but Wiki doesn't.


If the player only rescued the Little Sisters (therefore saving their lives), the ending shows the rescued Little Sisters returning to the surface and living full lives under Jack's care, including them graduating college and getting married; it ends on a heart-warming tone, with an elderly Jack surrounded on his deathbed by all of the adult Little Sisters.

DVDChris
12-31-07, 12:16 AM
Yeah, check out youtube for the good ending.

CKMorpheus
01-21-08, 06:11 PM
I just got my replacement Big Daddy statuette and art book in today. Yay!

The Big Daddy comes very securely packaged... It's in a white box inside the main delivered box, and inside the white box it's sandwiched snugly between two pieces of styrofoam held together with tape. Inside the styrofoam, the Big Daddy is wrapped in a plastic bag. Physically there's not much difference between the two. The paint on the face which wraps around behind him is gold/bronze now instead of a dull yellow. The blood splatters are approximately in the same area, but still seem to be randomized. The one thing that concerns me the most is the left foot of the new one... it seems like it's been chopped off and glued shoddily, which results in a much more wobbly stance... When I get my camera back I'll take pictures.

Nothing much to say about the art book. It's beautifully done, glossy, high res, and includes everything in that PDF they released months ago, nothing more.

All in all it's a good package. A little peeved that my new Big Daddy is handicapped, but whatever from more than a foot away you wouldn't even notice. Thanks 2k!

Michael Corvin
01-21-08, 08:23 PM
I didn't notice a foot issue on my new one. The new one is also heavier. The art book is beautiful.

I have to applaud 2k for coming through. :clap:

Supermallet
01-21-08, 09:02 PM
Got my replacement today, as well. No problems with the foot on it, and the book is really nice. Excellent work, 2K.

Noonan
01-22-08, 08:04 AM
I forget most of the details but Wiki doesn't.


If the player only rescued the Little Sisters (therefore saving their lives), the ending shows the rescued Little Sisters returning to the surface and living full lives under Jack's care, including them graduating college and getting married; it ends on a heart-warming tone, with an elderly Jack surrounded on his deathbed by all of the adult Little Sisters.

This is correct but it's not very detailed. It's a very short ending either way. The "good" ending just ends with you sitting in a hospital bed and a woman's hand comes into screen and holds yours. Here's a link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JjyVeWzwYg

parrotheads4
01-22-08, 12:12 PM
Tho I've owned the game since Oct. I hadn't had a chance to play it until yest/today. Atmosphere is very creepy. Graphics are great. I cant point my weapons where I want them. I'm fighting the controls more than the enemies. I wish I had gotten this on pc instead of 360.

JasonF
07-03-08, 08:08 PM
So I just did a run through of the game on hard without using a Vita Chamber, yet I didn't get the Brass Balls achievement. What gives?

My options menu also didn't have the option to turn the Vita Chambers off. From what I've read, that's a known glitch that shouldn't affect the Brass Balls achivement, as long as you reload if you die. So that's what I did, but it didn't seem to work.

Has anyone encountered this glitch? Does anyone know how to fix it?

Michael Corvin
07-03-08, 09:20 PM
Were you promoted to update the game before you played? There was an update a few months back that allowed the achievement to unlock.

JasonF
07-03-08, 09:49 PM
Were you promoted to update the game before you played? There was an update a few months back that allowed the achievement to unlock.

I'm 95% sure I was. I also downloaded the new plasmids.

Michael Corvin
07-03-08, 11:03 PM
Yeah, that was it.

K&AJones
07-04-08, 09:42 AM
Good to see this game still being mentioned and yea I'd like to go back on this one but I've got to finish Assasin's Creed. Still one of if not the best looking game out there. Can't wait for the second one.


Kenny J -B4EvrYng

pinata242
12-04-08, 11:13 PM
5 months later, another post.

So I finished this tonight. I'm glad I finally played it, but I'm already over it. Like most people seemed to say in this thread, it just sort of fizzled out. It went on too long after the Fontaine reveal with boring fetch quests and that god-awful escort mission. WTF was the point of it anyway if the was no penalty for losing the little sister? Just pop another out of the dispenser. I actually thought for a moment I'd not get my 100-point "savior" achievement when the first died.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone around here went for the brass balls achievement - complete on hard using no vita-chambers. It seems pretty easy once you get to a certain point, assuming you don't bother too much with big daddies until you can handle them with powerful weapons. Of course skipping the Adam collection would slow you down overall by limiting the number of plasmids and tonics you could equip. I'm wondering if it is worth trying for a relative FPS retard like myself.

I will play the second quicker :)

Jeremy517
12-04-08, 11:30 PM
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone around here went for the brass balls achievement - complete on hard using no vita-chambers.

I did. It really isn't that hard, because you can save whenever you want.

Matt
12-05-08, 12:00 AM
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone around here went for the brass balls achievement - complete on hard using no vita-chambers. It seems pretty easy once you get to a certain point, assuming you don't bother too much with big daddies until you can handle them with powerful weapons. Of course skipping the Adam collection would slow you down overall by limiting the number of plasmids and tonics you could equip. I'm wondering if it is worth trying for a relative FPS retard like myself.

I got it a couple months ago. Wasn't too difficult. Ignored most of the Big Daddies until the end and they were super-easy by that point.

I will play the second quicker :)

That's what I thought, too, but I think it actually took me longer the second time around. I rushed through my first playthrough to find out what happened next in the story, but found that there was somewhat of a lack of urgency to go through it all again in the second playthrough.

pinata242
12-05-08, 12:04 AM
Sorry, I meant the 2nd game - no the 2nd playthrough of this one.

I already did all the story and diaries and such. I'd spend most of my time taking pictures, hacking, and reloading I think :)

Raul3
12-23-08, 12:15 AM
For all the fans and collectors:

http://take2store.stores.yahoo.net/lisifi.html

Little Sister figurine. Companion to your Big Daddy figurine. Shipping is expensive, around $10, but I just had to have it. :D

Michael Corvin
12-23-08, 05:15 AM
I had to have it too, until I saw the shipping. I just can't justify $20 for that little figure. It doesn't even look all that impressive for a figure, especially compared to the big daddy.

mattysemo247
12-23-08, 07:28 AM
I was thinking they might have this packed in with the LE of the second one when it comes out

Dan
12-23-08, 08:22 AM
For all the fans and collectors:

http://take2store.stores.yahoo.net/lisifi.html

Little Sister figurine. Companion to your Big Daddy figurine. Shipping is expensive, around $10, but I just had to have it. :D

cool. I'd order it, but I have absolutely no trust in take2 anymore. I bought the LE of Bioshock and my Big Daddy was damaged. They had a form on their site so you could swap the damaged Big Daddy's will undamaged ones. I filled out the form and never got anything in the mail (I was supposed to get a package to return my figurine along with an exclusive book of artwork, if I remember correctly). I sent a couple reminders over the course of 6 months and got responses from them that amounted to "we lost your info, send it again." So I did, and still got nothing. I eventually just super-glued my Big Daddy back together.

Fuck take2.

Shagrath
12-23-08, 08:31 AM
cool. I'd order it, but I have absolutely no trust in take2 anymore. I bought the LE of Bioshock and my Big Daddy was damaged. They had a form on their site so you could swap the damaged Big Daddy's will undamaged ones. I filled out the form and never got anything in the mail (I was supposed to get a package to return my figurine along with an exclusive book of artwork, if I remember correctly). I sent a couple reminders over the course of 6 months and got responses from them that amounted to "we lost your info, send it again." So I did, and still got nothing. I eventually just super-glued my Big Daddy back together.

Fuck take2.
Sorry to hear that. I've got the exact opposite story.

My Big Daddy was broken out of the box as well. It wasn't horrible, as it was just the tip of the drill bit, but I was still pissed, as I should get a complete unbroken product when I drop that much on something. I submitted the online form and waited for my "coffin". It was taking forever, so they sent out another email (I believe) that said they were going to give the artbook out as well. Eventually, they said "screw it" and just sent me out another Big Daddy as well and told me to toss the broken one. I glued the tip back on the old one and you really can't tell it's broken anymore. So now I have one watching over my desk at home and one guarding my stuff at work.

Michael Corvin
12-23-08, 08:44 AM
Yep. They let everyone keep their 'broken' big daddies, and the artbook was awesome. Sorry about your story SomethingMore.

Dan
12-23-08, 09:49 AM
^Must have just been take2/2k Canada, 'cause I'm insanely jealous of you guys now.

edit: I just sent my last angry email to them. I doubt I'll get anything at this point. If I could email the CEO, I would. The emails they sent me over that time were unprofessional and clearly showed that they had no idea what they were doing.

Raul3
12-24-08, 12:09 AM
Yeah, shipping was too much. But I just had to have it.

They shipped today, so I should have it by the end of the week or earlier next week. I'll post pictures when I receives. Finally, Mr. Bubbles won't be alone anymore.

Ravenous
12-24-08, 02:28 AM
I just installed this game on the PS3.... glad I did it before I start the game (Ill start playing it after Xmas), it took about a fucking hour!

Raul3
12-24-08, 08:27 PM
An hour? that seems like a lot? does that includes any update? or just the original game by itself?

K&AJones
12-25-08, 10:22 AM
This game still ranks as one of my all-time favorites and I'd still like time to play it again. I can still remember my first "Big Daddy" encounter. Visually it's second to none. Cannot wait till the second one comes out.


Kenny J

Jamieson22
12-30-08, 02:15 PM
After renting this 1.5 years ago and not finishing it (not sure I even killed a Big Daddy) I decided to buy and replay. Wow, that is one hell of a game.

There is a bit of a learning curve at the front end, but once you tackle a Big Daddy I thing it gets easier from there. Guess the first few times I saw one they kicked my ass, so that was my learning curve ;)

Anyone that has not played this one yet should def give it a go.

Jamie

Ravenous
12-30-08, 05:04 PM
Yea I started playing it and its amazing. Ive never been so engulfed with a game where Im taking it slow and releshing it. Its my first play through after getting the demo when it first came out and Im actually playing it on HARD. I love the visuals and sometimes just watch and listen to the characters 'live' in their environment. The Big Daddys are a bitch and the first one I fought demolished me, but I love taking them on now. The game in 5.1 is astonishing, hearing the Daddys moan and move is house shaking.

"Yes, Jesus loves me!"

maingon
12-30-08, 09:35 PM
I been tempted to get this on steam for 4.99, already have the 360 one and did beat it, I loved this game and would like to play it through again, and since my new pc can handle anything it might look better then the 360 one.

Raul3
12-31-08, 11:42 PM
I'm the opposite of you maingon, I got the game for the PC, in release date. I actually got the LE, with the Big Daddy figurine and all that stuff. I chose the PC version because I wanted the best visuals and the game really delivered. I think I'm ready to play it in the Xbox or the PS3 now.

Ravenous
01-02-09, 02:53 AM
Alright little help here...

I just beat the Arcadia level and went back to the Medical Pavilion to get a Big Daddy I had left behind. When I went there, the pause screen shows I am missing one guy, but I couldnt find him! When I did the initial level run through, I saved the first little sister I encounter without fighting a Big Daddy and later before I left, I fought my first and harvested the sister. I cant find the one Im missing! Help!

Michael Corvin
01-02-09, 07:10 AM
Big Daddy and Little sisters are completely random. They are different on every play through for everyone. You just have to wander around until you find them.

Giantrobo
01-02-09, 07:20 AM
Alright little help here...

I just beat the Arcadia level and went back to the Medical Pavilion to get a Big Daddy I had left behind. When I went there, the pause screen shows I am missing one guy, but I couldnt find him! When I did the initial level run through, I saved the first little sister I encounter without fighting a Big Daddy and later before I left, I fought my first and <b>harvested the sister. </b>I cant find the one Im missing! Help!

You Cold Hearted Bastard. :grunt:

K&AJones
01-02-09, 10:01 AM
When in doubt use the map. it'll show everywhere you've ben and dark areas you haven't been. He could be in a room, behind some blockage, corner...Sometimes they won't move till you get close.

Rival11
01-03-09, 12:21 PM
You Cold Hearted Bastard. :grunt:

I feel bad now as I harvested all little sisters when I played through it.

I still like bioshock but after playing Dead Space...it takes the cake - Dead Space feels much more evolved and the back tracking has a seamless feel to it (i.e. feels necessary) whereas in Bioshock, I almost stop playing half way through because of the back tracking.

But don't get me wrong, the story in Bioshock is quite unique - the game just doesn't capatalize on it enough.

Ravenous
01-03-09, 12:39 PM
You Cold Hearted Bastard. :grunt:

:lol: Man I love Harvesting those little shits. I believe in Atlas. Theyre not little girls anymore, theyre already dead... Did most play this game and not harvest em cause they felt bad about it?

I figured out why I THOUGHT I was missing a little sister in the Medical Pavilion. I didnt recognize the picture was of a saved little sister, im use to seeing the harvested one.

I havent had to do any back tracking necessary to the game and Im at the area where I have to kill some guys for Sanders

Autotelik
01-03-09, 12:57 PM
Cool thanks. Actually I too was wandering around last night looking for my last little sister at a particular level- it just so happened that I decided to rescue one instead of harvesting it. The picture does look different.

Michael Corvin
01-03-09, 01:40 PM
IIRC, there's not much advantage in the long run to harvest them, maybe 50-100 more Adam. Plus the 'save all' little sisters achievement was a big draw. Although, I couldn't kill one anyway. I didn't have it in me.

darkside
01-03-09, 02:48 PM
IIRC, there's not much advantage in the long run to harvest them, maybe 50-100 more Adam. Plus the 'save all' little sisters achievement was a big draw. Although, I couldn't kill one anyway. I didn't have it in me.

I saved them all as well. I'm never good at being evil in games if given the choice. I puss out every time.

Shagrath
01-03-09, 03:04 PM
I saved them all in one run and harvested them all in another to get the two different endings. Played through it once on Normal and once on Hard, although if I would've known there was no penalty for dieing, I would've just done it on Hard to start with.

pinata242
01-03-09, 10:08 PM
You actually net more Adam in the long run by rescuing them as opposed to harvesting. Harvesting gets you more "now" but for every 3 you rescue, you get bonus tonics and Adam gifts.

I should know, I got Brass Balls. Pussies.

JasonF
01-04-09, 12:41 AM
You actually net more Adam in the long run by rescuing them as opposed to harvesting. Harvesting gets you more "now" but for every 3 you rescue, you get bonus tonics and Adam gifts.

I should know, I got Brass Balls. Pussies.

Not quite true. I think harvesting gives 160 Adam apiece, while saving only gives 80 plus a 200 Adam bonus for every 3 you save. So you come out slightly ahead on Adam (480 for every 3 vs. 440) by harvesting. However, I think the bonus tonics and plasmids more than make up for the 40 less Adam you get by saving and the delayed gratification.

Ravenous
01-04-09, 04:21 AM
Interesting...

I play games like I would live if it was sociably acceptable. I hate traffic and and such so in GTA I love hitting cars and pedestians. I like harvesting the sisters cause they piss me off egging on Mr Bubbles. So since in the real world I have to be a functioning psycho, I have to let out my aggressions in games :) But I will replay Bio and will only save the sissters next time, I want to see the other ending.

Okay Darkside this is for you and others like you, did you kill Sanders after you collected those pictures of the people you killed and he let you go to the biosphere? Or were you nice and let him be?

I didnt hesitate in setting his ass on fire. It was a good battle. It made it sweeter cause the level was a fucking bitch, the first time I got pissed at the game itself, cause of those fucking plaster statue splicers never stopped coming :mad:

Michael Corvin
01-04-09, 07:15 AM
I saved them all in one run and harvested them all in another to get the two different endings. Played through it once on Normal and once on Hard, although if I would've known there was no penalty for dieing, I would've just done it on Hard to start with.

Well Brass Balls didn't come down the pipe until about 6 months after release, so it wouldn't have mattered if you played on hard at time of release. As for the other ending, you could have just booted up one of your later saves and kill one little sister and finish the game again. The ending is the same whether you harvest one or all of them. Seeing how it was commonly known the ending was less than a minute long I watched the other ending on YouTube.


Okay Darkside this is for you and others like you, did you kill Sanders after you collected those pictures of the people you killed and he let you go to the biosphere? Or were you nice and let him be?

I didn't realize who Sanders was until I had already lit his ass up.

Shagrath
01-04-09, 08:59 AM
Well Brass Balls didn't come down the pipe until about 6 months after release, so it wouldn't have mattered if you played on hard at time of release.

Seriously Good At This 40
Complete the game on the hardest difficulty setting.

Still haven't gone for Brass Balls, but have everything else.

hail2dking
01-05-09, 10:51 AM
If anyone still needs this...the 360 version is now $14.99 used at Blockbuster, so it is eligible for the B1G1 deal...pair this up with Mass Effect (or Devil May Cry 4) and you are good to go

Groucho
01-05-09, 10:59 AM
I didn't realize who Sanders was until I had already lit his ass up.Yeah, he's the only non-enemy NPC (not counting Big Daddies/Little Sisters) in the entire game that you can actually shoot at, so it's only natural to let loose when he appears.

Ravenous
01-07-09, 01:43 PM
Beat Ryan last night and saw the big twist. It was well done and I love every minute of it. The little sisters were pissed at me in their orphanage and would comment how I was mean to them and to stay away.... awesome.

The next level was fucking chaos with so much shit after me and having to rush before Fontaine took all my life from me. Now I have to find the rest of the cure cause my plasmids are all haywire.

God I love this game!

Ravenous
01-08-09, 02:50 AM
I was looking at a FAQ cause I found a door in Cohen's apartment that I cant open. Turns out since I killed him earlier he wont come out to play. Bastard! :mad:

I also read that at U Invents I should be able to invent Gene Tonics, WTF? Ive never been able to do that, just ammo! Anyone know what up?

Giantrobo
01-08-09, 04:13 AM
I was looking at a FAQ cause I found a door in Cohen's apartment that I cant open. Turns out since I killed him earlier he wont come out to play. Bastard! :mad:

I also read that at U Invents I should be able to invent Gene Tonics, WTF? Ive never been able to do that, just ammo! Anyone know what up?

That's what you get Baby Killer. :grunt:

Suck it!!

Ravenous
01-08-09, 02:43 PM
:lol: Oddly enough, even after seeing the ones in wheel chairs and others playing and calling me bad, I still harvested the next little brat I saw :D Sorry but I gotta look out for number one.

Next time I play it will be the nice run through, saving them and letting Cohen live.

pinata242
01-08-09, 02:46 PM
:lol: Oddly enough, even after seeing the ones in wheel chairs and others playing and calling me bad, I still harvested the next little brat I saw :D Sorry but I gotta look out for number one.

Next time I play it will be the nice run through, saving them and letting Cohen live.
You just have to let him live a little longer than completing his masterpiece. Next time you see him, bash his sick fucking brains out of his skull. Remember to take a few pics for research and one after the fact, you know, just for fun.

K&AJones
01-08-09, 07:00 PM
I'm really glad this thread just stays alive. I'm tempted to replay this but I may hold off when the new one gets closer for release. There are plenty of other "things" I want to try that I didn't get to with the weapons, plasmids and tonics. Just way to many combinations for one go around.

FatTony
01-08-09, 08:18 PM
Just way to many combinations for one go around.

That's one thing that I found a little annoying in this game. There's no way to get all the plasmids/tonics in a single run-through and you don't get to keep what you ended the game with for the next run-through.

Still, this was an amazing game and I wish I could play it again for the first time. It was literally the only FPS that I played through more than once (4 times, to be exact, and I'll probably give it another go before the new one comes out).

Ravenous
01-11-09, 02:17 PM
Well I beat the game. Atlas wasnt that hard, I beat him on the second chance. For the hard difficulty he was damn simple. The electric trip wires mainly finished him. But than the little brats took my kill so I killed them all. Tenenbaum was right about me :mad: Now I got a nuke!

For people with the PS3, is there a way to see all the trophies you can earn? Im just curious what I got and what I missed. Im sure I missed a Weapon Upgrade Station but I have no idea where. Pisses me off as I left no room unexplored or rock unturned in the game.

Giantrobo
01-11-09, 02:39 PM
Well I beat the game. Atlas wasnt that hard, I beat him on the second chance. For the hard difficulty he was damn simple. The electric trip wires mainly finished him. But than the little brats took my kill so I killed them all. Tenenbaum was right about me :mad: Now I got a nuke!

For people with the PS3, is there a way to see all the trophies you can earn? Im just curious what I got and what I missed. Im sure I missed a Weapon Upgrade Station but I have no idea where. Pisses me off as I left no room unexplored or rock unturned in the game.


Yes Baby Killer, one station was in Cohen's apartment. But I think you killed before you made it there right?

Shagrath
01-11-09, 03:33 PM
That's one thing that I found a little annoying in this game. There's no way to get all the plasmids/tonics in a single run-through and you don't get to keep what you ended the game with for the next run-through.
Pretty sure you can get everything on one playthrough. There's an achievement for getting all 53 tonics, which I've done, so I know that's possible. Looking over the list of 20 plasmids, it doesn't look like there's any requirements or ones that cancel others out.

Michael Corvin
01-11-09, 07:05 PM
The achivement is for 53 tonics. That's not to say ALL the tonics. I believe there is a different tonic you gain for both killing Cohen and letting him live, making it impossible to get them all in one playthrough. But that's a technicality, you can get the achievement in one playthrough.

JasonF
01-11-09, 09:59 PM
The achivement is for 53 tonics. That's not to say ALL the tonics. I believe there is a different tonic you gain for both killing Cohen and letting him live, making it impossible to get them all in one playthrough. But that's a technicality, you can get the achievement in one playthrough.

You can get all of the achievements in one playthrough. I got all of them except Brass Balls on my first playthrough, and that's only because Brass Balls didn't get added as an achievement until later.

Here are all the achievements:

Completed Welcome. (10 points)
Successfully complete the Welcome To Rapture Level.

Maxed One Track (20 points)
Purchased every slot in one of the Plasmid or Tonic tracks

Maxed All Tracks (50 points)
Purchased every slot in all four Plasmid and Tonic tracks

Bought One Slot (5 points)
Purchase one slot in any Plasmid or Tonic track

Upgraded a Weapon (5 points)
Acquire at least one weapon upgrade.

One Fully Upgraded Weapon (5 points)
Fully upgrade one weapon.

Two Fully Upgraded Weapons (5 points)
Fully upgrade two weapons.

Three Fully Upgraded Weapons (10 points)
Fully upgrade three weapons.

Four Fully Upgraded Weapons (10 points)
Fully upgrade four weapons.

Five Fully Upgraded Weapons (10 points)
Fully upgrade five weapons.

Weapon Specialist (20 points)
Acquire all upgrades for all weapons.

Fully Researched Thug Splicer (10 points)
Fully research the Thuggish Splicer.

Fully Researched Gun Splicer (10 points)
Fully research the Leadhead Splicer.

Fully Researched Spider Splicer. (10 points)
Fully research the Spider Splicer.

Fully Researched Houdini Splicer (10 points)
Fully research the Houdini Splicer.

Fully Researched Nitro Splicer (10 points)
Fully research the Nitro Splicer.

Fully Researched Rosie (10 points)
Fully research the Rosie.

Fully Researched Bouncer (10 points)
Fully research the Bouncer.

Fully Researched Little Sister (10 points)
Fully research the Little Sister.

Prolific Photographer (5 points)
Take at least one photo in every research group.

Research PhD (20 points)
Max out all possible research.

Quality Research Photo (20 points)
Take a Research Photo of the highest grade.

Researched a Splicer (5 points)
Take at least one Research Photo of a Splicer.

One Successful Hack (5 points)
Perform at least one successful hack.

Hacked a Security Bot (10 points)
Successfully hack a security bot.

Hacked a Security Camera (10 points)
Successfully hack a security camera.

Hacked a Turret (10 points)
Successfully hack a turret.

Hacked a Vending Machine (10 points)
Successfully hack a vending machine.

Hacked a Safe (10 points)
Successfully hack a safe.

Skilled Hacker (40 points)
Successfully complete 50 hacks.

Basic Inventor (5 points)
Successfully invent at least one item.

Avid Inventor (10 points)
Successfully invent at least 100 items.

Ammo Inventor (25 points)
Successfully invented all possible ammo types.

Little Sister Savior (100 points)
Complete the game without harvesting any Little Sisters.

Tonic Collector (50 points)
Collect or Invent 53 Tonics in the Physical, Engineering and Combat tracks.

Historian (50 points)
Find every audio diary.

Seriously Good At This (40 points)
Complete the game on the hardest difficulty setting.

Dealt with every Little Sister (40 points)
Either Harvest or Rescue every Little Sister in the game

Lucky Winner (10 points)
Hit the jackpot at a slot machine

Toaster in the Tub (10 points)
Shock an enemy in the water.

Secret Achievements
Defeated Dr. Steinman (15 points)
The player has defeated the crazed Dr. Steinman

Defeated Peach Wilkins (15 points)
The player has defeated Peach Wilkins

Restored the Forest (15 points)
The player has restored the forests of Arcadia

Completed Cohen's Masterpiece (30 points)
The player has completed Sander Cohen's great masterpiece

Defeated Andrew Ryan (30 points)
The player has defeated Andrew Ryan

Broke Fontaine's Mind Control (30 points)
The player has broken Fontaine's mind control

Defeated Atlas (100 points)
The player has defeated Atlas

Became a Big Daddy (30 points)
The player has become a Big Daddy.

Irony (10 points)
The player has taken a picture of Sander Cohen's corpse

Found Cohen's Room (10 points)
The player has entered Sander Cohen's personal quarters.

Brass Balls (100 points)
Complete the game on Hard difficulty without using a Vita-Chamber

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=271

Michael Corvin
01-12-09, 06:58 AM
I wasn't talking about getting all the achievements.

JasonF
01-12-09, 08:51 AM
I wasn't talking about getting all the achievements.

Yes, but apparently when I replied to your post I had the reading comprehension of a retarded 6-year-old.

Anyway, as a complete non-sequitur to Michael Corvin's post, you can get all of the achievements in Bioshock in one playthrough.

Shagrath
01-12-09, 09:03 AM
The achivement is for 53 tonics. That's not to say ALL the tonics. I believe there is a different tonic you gain for both killing Cohen and letting him live, making it impossible to get them all in one playthrough. But that's a technicality, you can get the achievement in one playthrough.
There are 53 tonics in the game, period.

Looking through a guide for the tonics, I see this:

6. Extra Nutrition 2 - Storage Basement of the mall area in Fort Frolic. Covered by metal grate if Cohen dies. Also purchasable.
12. Medical Expert 2 - Fort Frolic / Awarded by an alive Cohen or bought in Hephestus

You must also save all Little Sisters, as they give you a tonic at the end that is unattainable by other means.

Michael Corvin
01-12-09, 09:18 AM
Cool. Well there you go. We are both right. I didn't know they were the same ones you can purchase later in the game.

Ravenous
01-13-09, 02:15 PM
Yes Baby Killer, one station was in Cohen's apartment. But I think you killed before you made it there right?

Yea, thats the one place I couldnt explire. SPent an hour looking for a way in till I hit a FAQ. Damn man you dont like me do you? Tenenbaum gave me less grief :D

Jeremy517
01-13-09, 02:21 PM
There are 53 tonics in the game, period.


That isn't exactly right. If you have the free downloadable content, there are a total of 57 plasmids. The added plasmids count towards the achievement.

Giantrobo
01-13-09, 02:36 PM
Yea, thats the one place I couldnt explire. SPent an hour looking for a way in till I hit a FAQ. <b>Damn man you dont like me do you? Tenenbaum gave me less grief </b>:D


The Babies man, how could you kill the Babies? :(


;)

Superman07
01-14-09, 05:04 PM
I played through this recently and enjoyed it. I stupidly (?) played through on hard, but after about 3/4 of the way through it was fairly easy. I found myself using death as a tactic as I would go whatever damage I could on a Daddy, regenerate and then run back for more. It made for some slow going, but it worked.

I thought the story was interesting and quite original. I really thought it was going somewhere else entirely so was pleased I hadn't "figured it all out" so to speak.

Since I didn't harvest the girls I received the nice ending, but it was still a little weird.

Dan
01-15-09, 04:07 PM
^Must have just been take2/2k Canada, 'cause I'm insanely jealous of you guys now.

edit: I just sent my last angry email to them. I doubt I'll get anything at this point. If I could email the CEO, I would. The emails they sent me over that time were unprofessional and clearly showed that they had no idea what they were doing.

Well, 2K Games has delivered!
I've been in touch with the Marketing Director at 2K, and he managed to find an extra Big Daddy figurine for me. Not only that, but he also sent me one of those XBox faceplates and...
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/take2store_2034_1909299

:rock:
edit: no artbook... but that's okay :)

Michael Corvin
01-15-09, 06:24 PM
Damn you got a faceplate? That's awesome.

Dan
01-15-09, 06:37 PM
^ I just did a bit of research and found out that there's an uber-limited Bioshock faceplate out there. I don't know if mine is one of them (I haven't been home yet to actually SEE the delivery)... but I'm betting it's not. I doubt they'd still have those lying around.

edit: Just got home. Definitely not the uber-limited faceplate, but I still like it :) Thanks 2K!

Michael Corvin
01-15-09, 07:55 PM
I wouldn't be so sure. I think the limited Bioshock faceplate is the ONLY Bioshock faceplate. They were only sent to Gamestop managers, IIRC, so the only way to get one was to know somebody or pay a fortune on ebay. I think you hit the jackpot.

Dan
01-15-09, 08:26 PM
no, I'm sure. I found a lot of pics of the limited one and the one I have is quite different. In fact... hold on...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3516/3199871193_071ebd52ce.jpg?v=1232072695

Raul3
01-16-09, 10:49 AM
Not bad.

I checked the LE in ebay... $250 for one. :lol:

*The one with all the extras. Faceplate only $150

SonOfAStu
01-23-09, 08:12 AM
PS3 version on sale for $29.99 at Best Buy this weekend with a $10 coupon on 2kgames.com website.

Looks like I'll finally be picking this up. I'll play it when I finish Heavenly Sword and Lego Star Wars.

chess
01-23-09, 09:48 AM
PS3 version on sale for $29.99 at Best Buy this weekend with a $10 coupon on 2kgames.com website.

Looks like I'll finally be picking this up. I'll play it when I finish Heavenly Sword and Lego Star Wars.

Well worth $20. I paid $30 on Amazon a few weeks back and have been playing through in chunks.

It's a brilliant game, no doubt...atmospheric...unique...great narrative...polished...etc.

But it does have one flaw that is nearly fatal for me: in most circumstances, you're better off dying than using your first aid or ammo. I killed a big daddy with a wrench the other night just because he followed me to vita chamber. I'd whack him a few times and respawn over and over. It was mildly amusing...but at some point, I just thought "this is stupid".

I'll stick with Mario Galaxy for Game of the Year 2007.

Still, I'd play Bioshock long before either of the games you listed.

Raul3
01-23-09, 10:37 AM
That's not a flaw, that's an option you have as a gamer.

That's why there's an achievement (trophy?) for playing the game without using any vita chamber.

SonOfAStu
01-23-09, 10:53 AM
Still, I'd play Bioshock long before either of the games you listed.

Well, I've already started HS - so that gets finished before anything else. And I've just had LSW in the "on deck" circle for a while. I need to play it eventually.

Michael Corvin
01-23-09, 11:17 AM
That's why there's an achievement (trophy?) for playing the game without using any vita chamber.

Which wasn't added until 6 months after everyone already finished it.

pinata242
01-23-09, 11:20 AM
There's a narrative explanation for the vita-chambers, so it fits in with the story. It would be nice if it punished you by leaving all your weapons, ammo, and items behind though. Even your clothes, I guess.

chess
01-23-09, 11:25 AM
That's not a flaw, that's an option you have as a gamer.

That's why there's an achievement (trophy?) for playing the game without using any vita chamber.

I didn't realize that was an option...don't they activate when you come near them?

Or do you really mean "without dying"?

pinata242
01-23-09, 11:26 AM
There's an option to disable the vita-chambers. This the only way to avoid them by default. It forces a game over and more manual saving.

Jeremy517
01-23-09, 11:28 AM
I didn't realize that was an option...don't they activate when you come near them?

Or do you really mean "without dying"?

There is an option to turn them off completely, which forces you to load a saved game when you die. You can also get the achievement manually by loading whenever you die.

edstein
01-23-09, 11:46 AM
All this Bioshock talk is getting me really interested in playing through again.

lordwow
01-23-09, 11:47 AM
I'm gonna go for the 1100/1100 I think.

pinata242
01-23-09, 11:49 AM
If I can do it, anyone can do it.

chess
01-23-09, 12:07 PM
If I were home, I'd check, but is there a quicksave option?

Raul3
01-23-09, 12:59 PM
do you mean you can save anywhere?
Yes

chess
01-23-09, 01:51 PM
do you mean you can save anywhere?
Yes

No, I knew that...some games (Half-Life 2 for instance) have a save system where you don't even have to access the menu...just hold the start button for a few seconds.

Just wondering if Bioshock had something similar. Will check the manaul when I get home.

Raul3
01-24-09, 01:28 PM
I see. I haven't heard about that in a console.

K&AJones
01-25-09, 01:44 PM
No, I knew that...some games (Half-Life 2 for instance) have a save system where you don't even have to access the menu...just hold the start button for a few seconds.

Just wondering if Bioshock had something similar. Will check the manaul when I get home.

Per the manual....

"Save...Saves your game progress at the current point. Note that you can save anywhere at anytime.The game will also autosave after loading an area

When I watched the demo on XPlay that was one of the cooler features. That way you could play a scene, try some of the Plasmids or Weapons. Stop play, reload the same scene and try something else.


Kenny J

GatorDeb
02-02-09, 02:20 PM
This is coming to BREW headsets and then later to the iPhon/iPod Touch -eek- Looks sweet.

YouTube-fy it anyone please? :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XeyZWJeRp2o

XeyZWJeRp2o

FINALLY someone explained it in a way I understood. Thanks Pinata! :D

pinata242
02-02-09, 02:21 PM
See that nonsense after the "v=" in the URL? That's the video ID. Put that between the [yt ][ /yt] tags (no spaces) and you'll YouTube-fy it.

edstein
02-02-09, 06:34 PM
Why are we taking a step backwards? The iTouch is not a gaming console IMO. Reminds me of my shitty N-Gage gaphics. A PSP version would rock though. This version, not so much.

chess
06-19-09, 09:16 AM
So I finally finished Bioshock! Overall, it was an amazingly polished and atmospheric shooter, though I can't say that I enjoyed the end that much. An escort mission and a Ridley fight seemed like an odd fit. Still, it's easily a AAA game and is probably my third favorite first person adventure game behind the Metroid and Half-Life series. I'm even looking forward to hearing what folks think of Bioshock 2, and I'll probably pick it up when the price drops.

Once I finished Bioshock, I jumped into the first hour or so of Dead Space...another fairly atmospheric shooter, and I've gotta say, I'm pretty impressed.

What's the scoop on the Bioshock DLC? What is it, and is it worth $10?

Raul3
06-19-09, 12:21 PM
Dead Space is really great.

Bioshock DLC was PS3 exclusive, so I don't know how many people have played that. But I've read that you are fine playing only the game, you won't miss anything important with the DLC.

chess
06-19-09, 12:23 PM
I'll look into it, but I can't really picture me paying $10 for a couple of "missions". I guess most folks played this on the 360 or PC.

jeffbase34
06-22-09, 09:56 AM
So I finally finished Bioshock! Overall, it was an amazingly polished and atmospheric shooter, though I can't say that I enjoyed the end that much. An escort mission and a Ridley fight seemed like an odd fit. Still, it's easily a AAA game and is probably my third favorite first person adventure game behind the Metroid and Half-Life series. I'm even looking forward to hearing what folks think of Bioshock 2, and I'll probably pick it up when the price drops.

Once I finished Bioshock, I jumped into the first hour or so of Dead Space...another fairly atmospheric shooter, and I've gotta say, I'm pretty impressed.

What's the scoop on the Bioshock DLC? What is it, and is it worth $10?


I'm on my 2nd playthrough. I was evil the first time. Bioshock is my all time favorite game after Starcraft. The world is just so rich and layered that you can play it over and over and discover something new. I love how they replicated art deco in everything, and even the commercials sound like they are from that era. Never really watched Spider splicers crawling on the ceiling until last night which looks amazing.


Bioshock 2 sounds even more amazing as you are stalked throughout the game by a Big Sister. The multiplayer will take you to the days when Rapture was being built. It just sucks that we now have to wait until November to play it!

K&AJones
06-25-09, 12:26 PM
Bioshock 2 sounds even more amazing as you are stalked throughout the game by a Big Sister. The multiplayer will take you to the days when Rapture was being built. It just sucks that we now have to wait until November to play it!

If you have a pretty good sound system with a decent sub...yea, the sound on this kicks serious booty with a bit of errie creepyness.

kmac2878
07-21-09, 08:08 PM
I'm on my 2nd playthrough. I was evil the first time. Bioshock is my all time favorite game after Starcraft. The world is just so rich and layered that you can play it over and over and discover something new. I love how they replicated art deco in everything, and even the commercials sound like they are from that era. Never really watched Spider splicers crawling on the ceiling until last night which looks amazing.

I'm playing it through again, too ... going for the Brass Balls achievement (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/bioshock/achievements/) ... need all the audio diaries, too ... haven't touched this game since October 2007 ... anywho, I almost forgot how beautiful this game really is ... this time around, I'm admiring everything at a much slower pace ... taking my time ... man, what an awesome, one-of-a-kind experience :up:

mhg83
08-22-09, 02:32 PM
Thought this was pretty funny:

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Rival11
08-24-09, 08:43 PM
Thought this was pretty funny:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/OTpZYjfi9no&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/OTpZYjfi9no&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

:lol:

SonOfAStu
10-23-09, 10:51 AM
Just started playing this (PS3) last night. Got to the first "Big Daddy" fight in the Medical Foyer and got my butt handed to me a couple of times. It was already 3:00am so I gave up and quit for the night. My problem is, when I start back there, I'm going to have no first aid kits or EVE replenishers and I got my butt kicked with full of both. I'm obviously doing something wrong.

One thing I realized why I always suck at games like this, whenever the action heats up and I have to react quickly, I always end up crouched and aiming. I can't help but push those analog stick in. :(

RichC2
10-23-09, 11:08 AM
Just started playing this (PS3) last night. Got to the first "Big Daddy" fight in the Medical Foyer and got my butt handed to me a couple of times. It was already 3:00am so I gave up and quit for the night. My problem is, when I start back there, I'm going to have no first aid kits or EVE replenishers and I got my butt kicked with full of both. I'm obviously doing something wrong.

One thing I realized why I always suck at games like this, whenever the action heats up and I have to react quickly, I always end up crouched and aiming. I can't help but push those analog stick in. :(

It's one of the problems I've always had with the Dual Shock layout.

mezcla
10-23-09, 11:11 AM
Just started playing this (PS3) last night. Got to the first "Big Daddy" fight in the Medical Foyer and got my butt handed to me a couple of times. It was already 3:00am so I gave up and quit for the night. My problem is, when I start back there, I'm going to have no first aid kits or EVE replenishers and I got my butt kicked with full of both. I'm obviously doing something wrong.

One thing I realized why I always suck at games like this, whenever the action heats up and I have to react quickly, I always end up crouched and aiming. I can't help but push those analog stick in. :(

I'm the same with the sticks. In COD4 I have probably air stabbed 1000x whenever an opponent suddenly comes into view. As for the Big daddy fight, do you not have a save just before it? I generally saved before engaging them so I could reload if I used up my ammo/eve/health. Cheap, I know. The first one definitely destroyed me a number of times (plus I started on hard) but as the game progresses they get almost too easy. Basically your options for taking them down expand a lot so don't worry about it being this difficult the whole way through. For me the first one involved a lot of retreating. Later on you get to be more creative in how you deal with them.

edstein
10-23-09, 11:14 AM
Just started playing this (PS3) last night. Got to the first "Big Daddy" fight in the Medical Foyer and got my butt handed to me a couple of times. It was already 3:00am so I gave up and quit for the night. My problem is, when I start back there, I'm going to have no first aid kits or EVE replenishers and I got my butt kicked with full of both. I'm obviously doing something wrong.

One thing I realized why I always suck at games like this, whenever the action heats up and I have to react quickly, I always end up crouched and aiming. I can't help but push those analog stick in. :(

Go towards the back of the medical foyer where there are two stair cases going down to the second level. Just run up down and around the stairs to use them as cover.

DVDChris
10-23-09, 11:28 AM
don't you respawn at one of those chambers while the Big Daddy health keeps going down?

Groucho
10-23-09, 11:34 AM
don't you respawn at one of those chambers while the Big Daddy health keeps going down?Yeah, if necessary just keep running up and smacking him with a wrench.

kakihara1
10-23-09, 11:49 AM
Yeah, if necessary just keep running up and smacking him with a wrench.

This is pretty much the way I did it. The Big Daddy was stuck and couldn't get through the doorway at the top of the stairs, I'd just wait till he calmed down then freeze and smack him with my wrench a couple times and run back through the door. Took forever but it worked.

SonOfAStu
10-23-09, 12:34 PM
Thanks for all the advice. As far as saving it before I got to him, well - I didn't know he was coming up. I had just finished one boss (the surgeon) so I figured there'd be a "level end" or an auto save or something coming up when I got back to the main room. Then there he was. I thought for sure I'd kick his ass with all my health and stuff. It's good to know that he doesn't start out at full strength everytime I die. Whew.

Jeremy517
10-23-09, 01:30 PM
Just started playing this (PS3) last night. Got to the first "Big Daddy" fight in the Medical Foyer and got my butt handed to me a couple of times. It was already 3:00am so I gave up and quit for the night. My problem is, when I start back there, I'm going to have no first aid kits or EVE replenishers and I got my butt kicked with full of both. I'm obviously doing something wrong.

One thing I realized why I always suck at games like this, whenever the action heats up and I have to react quickly, I always end up crouched and aiming. I can't help but push those analog stick in. :(

Don't feel bad that you struggled there. That fight is actually the hardest part of the game.

edstein
10-23-09, 04:13 PM
I think the Rosie battles were much harder than the first Big Daddy. That first guy just rushes you. The Rosie's shoot the fucking rivot gun at you and it does massive damage.

spainlinx0
10-23-09, 11:04 PM
I played the game on easy so the Big Daddy's were comically weak. I might go back through and play through on a harder level, but I was more interested in the story than in the FPS action.

Jeremy517
10-24-09, 02:34 AM
I think the Rosie battles were much harder than the first Big Daddy. That first guy just rushes you. The Rosie's shoot the fucking rivot gun at you and it does massive damage.

By that time, you have a boatload of weapons and plasmids though. Mines + rocket launcher == Dead Rosie.

SonOfAStu
10-25-09, 10:43 AM
You guys were right. The subsequent Big Daddies haven't been too bad, but Rosie is a BITCH! I'm currently taking pictures of Spider Splicers and what not in the hotel.

One thing that bugs the SHIT out of me is the 5 minutes of logos I have to sit through to even get to the "start" screen whenever I feel like playing.

SonOfAStu
10-30-09, 09:04 AM
So now I'm looking around the Farmer's Market for water and bees. Question:

Are there some things that you just can't hack? Sometimes when I try to hack something, every path to the exit is blocked by one of the alarm or short circuit tiles. Am I just bad at hacking, or do I eventually get something that can destroy the bad tiles?

pinata242
10-30-09, 09:08 AM
As I recall you can get plasmids that enhance your hacking skill to reduce the number of blocks. With a low hacking level against a high difficulty hack, it's very possible the randomocity modifiers are complete dicks.

Giantrobo
10-31-09, 01:42 AM
As I recall you can get plasmids that enhance your hacking skill to reduce the number of blocks. With a low hacking level against a high difficulty hack, <b>it's very possible the randomocity modifiers are complete dicks.</b>

:lol::up:

SonOfAStu
11-23-09, 09:36 AM
Holy crap, this game just keeps going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going......[/energizer bunny]

I don't see any type of "hours played" or "percent completed" info anywhere, so I have no idea how far along I am, but I thought I was going to see the ending like 6 different times already.

Currently looking for the pieces of a Big Daddy suit. Just changed my voice to sound like one. Woohoo!!

Michael Corvin
11-23-09, 09:41 AM
Holy crap, this game just keeps going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going......[/energizer bunny]

I don't see any type of "hours played" or "percent completed" info anywhere, so I have no idea how far along I am, but I thought I was going to see the ending like 6 different times already.

Currently looking for the pieces of a Big Daddy suit. Just changed my voice to sound like one. Woohoo!!

:lol: You're almost there.

SonOfAStu
11-23-09, 09:55 AM
Looking through the trophies, is there seriously anyone in the entire world that could play through this whole game without using one Vita Chamber? I don't believe it.

Tygan
11-23-09, 09:57 AM
Looking through the trophies, is there seriously anyone in the entire world that could play through this whole game without using one Vita Chamber? I don't believe it.

I did...just saved very often, especially before boss battles and big daddy battles. I will say that attempting to get that achievement/trophy really forces you to plan out strategies of attack. I enjoyed the game much more taking this approach.

SonOfAStu
11-23-09, 10:00 AM
Oh - well, that's kind of cheating, isn't it?

edstein
11-23-09, 11:45 AM
I did...just saved very often, especially before boss battles and big daddy battles. I will say that attempting to get that achievement/trophy really forces you to plan out strategies of attack. I enjoyed the game much more taking this approach.

I got the achievement as well. Save often and you don't need those chambers.

Michael Corvin
11-23-09, 01:04 PM
:shrug: I never used a chamber on my first playthrough either. Just saved often. Never did go through on Hard.

JasonF
11-23-09, 01:26 PM
I went through on Hard without using a Vita Chamber, but didn't get the achievement. There's a bug where that happens; I later found out that if you don't actually get the option to turn the Vita Chambers off in the new game screen, it means you have the bug and need to delete/re-download the DLC. I'll get around to doing so one of these days.

d2cheer
11-25-09, 11:50 AM
Looking through the trophies, is there seriously anyone in the entire world that could play through this whole game without using one Vita Chamber? I don't believe it.

I did the same, like it has been said before SAVE OFTEN and you don't need them.

Also for some reason I thought I would lose some of my stuff if I used them so I never did.

SonOfAStu
11-30-09, 07:49 PM
Whew. Finished up today. Great game! I was a pretty good FPSer by the end if I do say so myself. Woohoo!! I found Fontaine disappointingly easy to beat.

edstein
11-30-09, 10:54 PM
I think you'll find many people with the same feeling about the ending of the game. I still thought it wasn't a bad ending just a little anti-climatic. Did you harvest any little sisters? I saved them all on my first play through and harvested a few on my second run.

SonOfAStu
12-01-09, 02:18 PM
Right - not bad, just not "challenging". I saved all the little sisters. From what I could tell, it only cost me two upgrades from the Gatherer's Gardens and I don't even remember what they were. It will be my only play through. No idea where I would find time to play a game more than once.

Ravenous
12-24-09, 04:21 PM
With my subwoofer out and the PS3 going straight through regular tv speakers Im playing past games to get the platinum trophies. Did Uncharted, Dead SPace and decided to takle this. I wasnt going to but apparently I can still get the platinum without getting the STUPD dlc trophies. I hate online shit.

This is one tough game. Im doing it on survivor with no chambers and that first big daddy battle. Holy shit.... I found a great FAQ though and it baby steps your way to getting all trophies in one playthrough.

Ravenous
12-26-09, 04:22 PM
This was a huge mistake. Its taking me hours to do a level and the big daddies take a shit load of strategy

Ravenous
01-17-10, 07:00 PM
After taking a few weeks off after Xmas, I finally got the platinum. Game got real easy around Fort Frolic, it was great playing it. Too bad I didnt get the 100% completion

Tygan
01-17-10, 07:40 PM
With my subwoofer out and the PS3 going straight through regular tv speakers Im playing past games to get the platinum trophies. Did Uncharted, Dead SPace and decided to takle this. I wasnt going to but apparently I can still get the platinum without getting the STUPD dlc trophies. I hate online shit.

This is one tough game. Im doing it on survivor with no chambers and that first big daddy battle. Holy shit.... I found a great FAQ though and it baby steps your way to getting all trophies in one playthrough.


The DLC is free...not sure why that would get you all pissed off about there being trophies/cheevos tied to it.

Michael Corvin
01-17-10, 07:57 PM
I thought the PS3 had that Ferris Wheel expansion that was $10?

Ravenous
01-17-10, 07:59 PM
The DLC is free...not sure why that would get you all pissed off about there being trophies/cheevos tied to it.

Its $10

Anubis2005X
01-17-10, 09:55 PM
Just started this game a couple days ago and it's been pretty great so far. I'm really taking my time with it. It's definitely a bit more slow paced, so I'm not sure I'll be too eager to dive into Bioshock 2. Maybe when it's also $20. :)

OldBoy
06-25-10, 06:36 PM
boy- this is a tough game. a lot of thinking involved. really have to conserve on the ammo, $$, health and EVE and think about what to use in the right situations. hacking is tough with some of them and you got to be quick. you got to search everything to get what little bit is offered.

even shooting enemies takes some precise aim while they hit you dead on and only a few shots or clobbers and you are dead.

i've just killed Dr. Steinman, so not too far along, but even he took some time for me. really can't duck or block shots or anything. seems always relentless, especially if you trip a security camera and the bots come.

do supplies get more plentiful as time goes on?

Giantrobo
06-25-10, 06:40 PM
boy- this is a tough game. a lot of thinking involved. really have to conserve on the ammo, $$, health and EVE and think about what to use in the right situations. hacking is tough with some of them and you got to be quick. you got to search everything to get what little bit is offered.

even shooting enemies takes some precise aim while they hit you dead on and only a few shots or clobbers and you are dead.

i've just killed Dr. Steinman, so not too far along, but even he took some time for me. really can't duck or block shots or anything. seems always relentless, especially if you trip a security camera and the bots come.

do supplies get more plentiful as time goes on?

There are counters for just about everything you mention.

-Trip a Bot attack? Shock them then hack them...or find a bot turn off post.
-See a Security camera? Shock it and Hack it.
-Use a "One Two" of Shocking enemies, then shooting them in the head as they twitch with electricity.
-Use items that give you more Health and Eve when you do things.

mhg83
06-25-10, 06:41 PM
What difficulty setting are you playing on? It was frustrating at times but didn't seem very difficult. I played it on Normal.

It gets easier once you start getting more powers and upgrading.

OldBoy
06-25-10, 06:43 PM
There are counters for just about everything you mention.

-Trip a Bot attack? Shock them then hack them...or find a bot turn off post.
-See a Security camera? Shock it and Hack it.
-Use a "One Two" of Shocking enemies, then shooting them in the head as they twitch with electricity.
-Use items that give you more Health and Eve when you do things.

thanks. i have been doing the shock and kill thing, but really depletes the EVE. you only get like 2-3 shots before gone and almost every enemy needs a shot or two to do some good.

normal mode, which i guess is most games medium?

Ghym
06-25-10, 07:47 PM
thanks. i have been doing the shock and kill thing, but really depletes the EVE. you only get like 2-3 shots before gone and almost every enemy needs a shot or two to do some good.

normal mode, which i guess is most games medium?

As you upgrade your EVE and get stronger versions of the plasmids, you'll do more damage. There are also some tonics you can buy which will make plasmids use less EVE. Also, you should come across some upgrade stations for your weapons, where you can make them more powerful and hold more ammo.

I also liked to use the plasmid that lets you control Big Daddys and hacked security bots to do my fighting whenever I could.

Giantrobo
06-25-10, 08:12 PM
thanks. i have been doing the shock and kill thing, but really depletes the EVE. you only get like 2-3 shots before gone and almost every enemy needs a shot or two to do some good.

normal mode, which i guess is most games medium?

Even when using "Shock 1" that's more than enough to stun the average enemy. Shock then fire on them. Don't wait. Hint: Shock water when they're standing in it. That will shock multiple enemies. Also use Bots, Security Cams, and even Big Daddys to fight for you.....

As Ghym said, there are upgrades that reduce Eve usage and others that make ammo more powerful. "Power To the People" stations allow a one time per station upgrade of weapons.

Michael Corvin
06-26-10, 01:43 AM
Hint: Shock water when they're standing in it. That will shock multiple enemies. Also use Bots, Security Cams, and even Big Daddys to fight for you.....

Yep. There are dozens of ways to obliterate the enemy and have fun doing it. If you are sticking to one method you are really limiting your experience. Experiment with everything.

I wish I would have use the trip wires earlier in the game. Those were badass.

gryffinmaster
06-26-10, 07:28 AM
do supplies get more plentiful as time goes on?

Not really, though it depends on the difficulty setting. Bioshock's a survival horror at its core, so the anticipation in hunting down ammunition, meds, and such adds to the tension. Just make sure to search ash trays, chest of drawers, and any other inconspicuous place that might hold something. And, like others have said, use a bit of inventiveness with your strategies, such as lighting a splicer on fire when he's near water so they'll run to douse the flames -- then electrocute. Being surgical with the tactics you use will limit the amount of supplies, both health and ammo, that you use up.

Shock-'n-headshot. :up:

Also, along with the bots and cams, don't be afraid to hack turrets. The hacking schematic can be frustrating (2K greatly improves on that with Bioshock 2), but gaining control of one of those and luring a Big Daddy in front of it will be very effective.

Giantrobo
06-28-10, 03:14 PM
Yes I left out Turrets! Get them on your side and you can let them mop the room. :lol:

Also scott1598, while you're fighting a mad battle you may not notice it but Enemies run to Healing Stations and heal up just like how they run into water to put out flames. However if you hack them, they'll get a shock instead of healing.

So hack everything you can.

Eelkram
06-28-10, 04:01 PM
Just finished this game yesterday. I loved it, but hacking did start to become repetitive. I have since put an hour or 2 into bioshock 2 :)

Giantrobo
06-28-10, 05:21 PM
I finished Bioshock 2 last night and I really liked it. Both games are great in their own way.

OldBoy
06-28-10, 05:27 PM
Yes I left out Turrets! Get them on your side and you can let them mop the room. :lol:

Also scott1598, while you're fighting a mad battle you may not notice it but Enemies run to Healing Stations and heal up just like how they run into water to put out flames. However if you hack them, they'll get a shock instead of healing.

So hack everything you can.

i am trying to hack away, but some are like 3 tiles and can't get in time. is there a knack or secret to hacking, especially the safes?

Liver&Onions
06-28-10, 05:36 PM
i am trying to hack away, but some are like 3 tiles and can't get in time. is there a knack or secret to hacking, especially the safes?

You forgot to look here first, didn't you?
http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Hacking

DaveyJoe
06-28-10, 05:39 PM
I just bought Bioshock 2 during Steam's today-only sale for it, but I don't have the first one yet. I'm holding out in the hopes that Steam will do something similar for the original game. Would you guys recommend playing the original game first? I'm okay with waiting.

Giantrobo
06-28-10, 06:07 PM
i am trying to hack away, but some are like 3 tiles and can't get in time. is there a knack or secret to hacking, especially the safes?


There are items that make Hacking easier along with getting better as you go along.


Side note: I can't remember if we had this discussion, but they released a bunch of free items for download on the LIVE Marketplace. They may not help with Hacking, but I remember them being great usable free items.

OldBoy
06-28-10, 06:22 PM
There are items that make Hacking easier along with getting better as you go along.


Side note: I can't remember if we had this discussion, but they released a bunch of free items for download on the LIVE Marketplace. They may not help with Hacking, but I remember them being great usable free items.i did download this for free "Ryan Industries Plasmids and Gene Tonics" where description says: "Stuck in a rut in Rapture? Has a Big Daddy been beating you down? Need a little more zing to your arsenal? Download these Gene Tonics and Plasmids and get your step back. Splice with Sonic Boom, EVE Saver, Vending Expert, and Machine buster today!"
but don't know where they are or how to access them as the page for downloaded content is empty.

atxbomber
06-28-10, 06:24 PM
i did download this for free "Ryan Industries Plasmids and Gene Tonics" where description says: "Stuck in a rut in Rapture? Has a Big Daddy been beating you down? Need a little more zing to your arsenal? Download these Gene Tonics and Plasmids and get your step back. Splice with Sonic Boom, EVE Saver, Vending Expert, and Machine buster today!"
but don't know where they are or how to access them as the page for downloaded content is empty.

You have to go "buy" them from a Gatherer's Garden. They're free though, so it's only a matter of locating a GG to get them.

OldBoy
06-29-10, 06:30 PM
so early on...what is an effective way to kill a Big Daddy (Rosie) if you don't have any electric buck shots?

it takes me like 5-6 tries to kill the things and that is without splicers all around me. none of the plasmids seem effective on it. i've tried electric & sonic boom. i thought the hypnotize plasmid would work when he is my friend and thought i could just shoot him, but no.

JasonF
06-29-10, 06:48 PM
so early on...what is an effective way to kill a Big Daddy (Rosie) if you don't have any electric buck shots?

it takes me like 5-6 tries to kill the things and that is without splicers all around me. none of the plasmids seem effective on it. i've tried electric & sonic boom. i thought the hypnotize plasmid would work when he is my friend and thought i could just shoot him, but no.

If you've got the Vita Chambers turned on, just keep pounding away with whatever weapons you want. You'll take it down eventually because you heal and it doesn't. With respect to hypnotize, use it to have the splicers work on the Big Daddy for you.

If you're not using Vita Chambers, leave the Big Daddies alone until you have some of the more heavy-duty weapons. Then double-back and take out the ones you skipped. I typically wait until I get to Arcadia before I feel like I'm ready to take on a Big Daddy without getting killed; since you're a relative newbie, you might want to wait a level or two beyond that. The downside of that, of course, is that you don't get Adam until you take on the Big Daddies.

OldBoy
06-29-10, 06:55 PM
^ thanks. i am kinda going for broke on first playthrough and wants me some ADAM and figured there was a full proff way to take them down. game is kinda hard for me.

mattysemo247
06-30-10, 08:17 AM
Just stick with it. Like others have said, it gets a little easier once you level up your weapons, health and eve. With the chambers and save anywhere option, this is probably one of the best trial and error games you can mess around with. And always look around for things to use in the environment to your advantage.

Mike UFC
06-30-10, 10:09 AM
I just bought Bioshock 2 during Steam's today-only sale for it, but I don't have the first one yet. I'm holding out in the hopes that Steam will do something similar for the original game. Would you guys recommend playing the original game first? I'm okay with waiting.

Definitely play the original first. I also think it's the better game, but not by much. Steam has had it on sale for as little as $5 during the Holiday Sale so they may bring it back for the summer.

Eelkram
06-30-10, 10:25 AM
so early on...what is an effective way to kill a Big Daddy (Rosie) if you don't have any electric buck shots?

it takes me like 5-6 tries to kill the things and that is without splicers all around me. none of the plasmids seem effective on it. i've tried electric & sonic boom. i thought the hypnotize plasmid would work when he is my friend and thought i could just shoot him, but no.

You can find other things to distract it while you pound at it. For example, you can lure it next to your hacked turrets or cameras.

Ghym
07-01-10, 12:22 PM
I just bought Bioshock 2 during Steam's today-only sale for it, but I don't have the first one yet. I'm holding out in the hopes that Steam will do something similar for the original game. Would you guys recommend playing the original game first? I'm okay with waiting.

You don't have to hold out anymore. Steam put BioShock on sale for $4.99 today(July 1st). It's one of the daily deals.

Groucho
07-01-10, 12:37 PM
Still too much for me. I'll hold out for a better price.

pinata242
07-01-10, 12:49 PM
At this point I'm waiting for the "GOTY :lol:" edition with all the DLC included.

DaveyJoe
07-01-10, 02:09 PM
You don't have to hold out anymore. Steam put BioShock on sale for $4.99 today(July 1st). It's one of the daily deals.

Awesome, I'll go ahead and pick it up and play the games in order. Thanks for the heads up!

dsa_shea
09-06-10, 09:10 PM
How the F do you beat the first big daddy on Survivor difficulty? He basically pounds you into dust with one hit and my weapons do very little damage. I need to finish the game on this mode to get the platinum.

Rob V
09-07-10, 09:25 AM
How the F do you beat the first big daddy on Survivor difficulty? He basically pounds you into dust with one hit and my weapons do very little damage. I need to finish the game on this mode to get the platinum.

1. Start off with an attack (like Electric Shock)
2. ?
3. Deafeat Big Daddy

Sorry, couldn't resist.:)

JasonF
09-07-10, 12:03 PM
How the F do you beat the first big daddy on Survivor difficulty? He basically pounds you into dust with one hit and my weapons do very little damage. I need to finish the game on this mode to get the platinum.

I wait to take on the Big Daddies until about halfway through the game, when I have upgraded my weapons, piled up more ammo, and found a few tonics. Then I backtrack and take out all the ones I missed. The disadvantage to that approach is that taking out Big Daddies is the only way to accumulate ADAM, so you can't buy plasmids/tonics/slots until you start killing Big Daddies.

I usually feel ready to start taking on Big Daddies around the
Farmer's Market
level.

The best weapon for taking out Big Daddies is
the chemical thrower with electric gel. It paralyzes them while it sucks the life out of them.

Also, use Rapture security to your advantage. If you can lure a Big Daddy near a camera or a turret, you'll get the added fire-power of the security system plus the Big Daddy will concentrate on the bot/turret before he turns to you.

dsa_shea
09-07-10, 03:27 PM
Thanks for the reply on how to kill him. Can I bypass the first one as it seems that killing him is a prerequisite to moving on to the second section of the game.

JasonF
09-07-10, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the reply on how to kill him. Can I bypass the first one as it seems that killing him is a prerequisite to moving on to the second section of the game.

It's been a while since I played, but I'm pretty sure you can skip any Big Daddies you have to fight.

pinata242
09-07-10, 04:33 PM
Can't you just spam the Vita-Chambers over and over and over until he's dead?

Edit: Oh, shit, I thought this was the Bioshock 2 thread :o So you do need to stay alive during that fight. Been way too long for me to remember the specifics of that too. Can you give us more information to refresh our memories?

pinata242
09-07-10, 04:40 PM
Here is a video (only on medium difficulty) with some different methods you can try. Go to the youtube page and read the description for more info.

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dsa_shea
09-07-10, 07:45 PM
I blasted his ass without any problem on the easier mode but the survivor mode is a whole other animal and he turns out to be a raging cocksucker with a one hit kill.

Michael Corvin
09-07-10, 07:59 PM
I still remember my first Big Daddy fight. *sigh* If only I could experience that for the first time again.

dsa_shea
09-07-10, 09:12 PM
I still remember my first Big Daddy fight. *sigh* If only I could experience that for the first time again.

There is not much to experience. It's like one stroke done and I'm out cold.

dsa_shea
09-16-10, 10:36 PM
I was finally able to finish this game off tonight on survivor difficulty and without using vita chambers after inching my way through it and saving hundreds of times. I'm so glad that I'm done with it and have banked the platinum as that was one of the most stressful times that I have ever had with a video game.

TheKing
09-16-10, 11:09 PM
I was finally able to finish this game off tonight on survivor difficulty and without using vita chambers after inching my way through it and saving hundreds of times. I'm so glad that I'm done with it and have banked the platinum as that was one of the most stressful times that I have ever had with a video game.

I'm going to be taking on this challenge pretty soon. I didn't have much of a problem getting through the game on normal difficulty without using chambers, but survivor should be a whole different animal.

dsa_shea
09-17-10, 03:41 PM
I'm going to be taking on this challenge pretty soon. I didn't have much of a problem getting through the game on normal difficulty without using chambers, but survivor should be a whole different animal.

It is and you better save your game everytime you hack and get a kill or two. You will also need to make sure you keep 9 first aid kits with at all times. Good luck! I normally don't play this level of difficulty on a game but decided to do it and it was one of the most stressful gaming experiences in my life.

TimeandTide
11-07-10, 12:15 PM
Finally beat this on the medium setting after casually playing off and on for about a year. Got really repetitive towards the end and the finale was a bit anticlimactic, but loved how involving the story was and the variety of levels. Hugely satisfying knocking out 200 achievement points (for beating the game and saving all of the Little Sisters) in one shot.

Got 800/1100 achievement points on the first play-thru and might start up another game on easy to pick up some of the simpler achievements I missed along the way (like fully researching a Bouncer).

Would have tackled the game on Hard had I known about the 100 point Vita-Chamber achievement.

Now, on to my still-unopened COD:MW2.

I'd rate the game :4star:/:5star:

DGibFen
11-08-12, 07:33 PM
2 year bump, but Bioshock (PC version) is free today (11/8/12) if you download the GameFly PC client and provide a credit card.

Raul3
11-09-12, 07:53 AM
Can't believe the first game was so popular in this forum.

wlj
11-09-12, 09:12 AM
2 year bump, but Bioshock (PC version) is free today (11/8/12) if you download the GameFly PC client and provide a credit card.



thanks for that info. i finished it on the 360 back when the game was released but I wouldn't mine having a PC copy for free. i just have to remember to cancel my membership before next month. I also just bought Half-Life 2 for $2.49 on gamefly

wlj
11-09-12, 10:23 PM
well i downloaded it but i can't get it to work on windows 7. it goes to the title screen but after i hit new game then choose difficulty it goes to a blank screen. sucks!! at least i didn't pay for it :(

wlj
11-16-12, 09:04 AM
i got an email yesterday that thanked me for downloading the free Bioshock and gave me a code for 75% off Bioshock 2 which makes the game $5.


I decided to get it, it does say in the requirements "windows 7" so hopefully I won't run into any trouble. I still can't get Bioshock 1 to work. I have tried everything i can find on the web. It was free, but I am still upset over it.

RichC2
11-16-12, 09:09 AM
BioShock worked fine on my W7 box, there's something else wrong. It doesn't seem like an uncommon problem and there appears to be some fixes for it.

Can't believe the first game was so popular in this forum.

Why's that? There weren't a lot of original IPs at the time, it's the spiritual successor to System Shock, is a highly rated game. Not that shocking.

wlj
11-16-12, 09:42 AM
BioShock worked fine on my W7 box, there's something else wrong. It doesn't seem like an uncommon problem and there appears to be some fixes for it.






you are certainly one of the lucky ones then. i have tried most fixes that I don't think are too complicated. i am not the most computer savvy, so somethings really baffle me. i don't want to screw the rest of my computer up just to get this game to work.

Bioshock on my laptop will load up to the title screen, after i select new game and the difficulty desired it goes to a black screen and that is all she wrote. Lots of folks can play the game, but the sound doesn't work. I can't even play the game so i don't know if the sound works or not. it works on the title menu.

Can anyone here just come over to my house and fix it for me? :)

gryffinmaster
11-16-12, 09:48 AM
Can't believe the first game was so popular in this forum.

I can. The atmosphere created around the story's setting and ideology still remains one of my favorites, and it plays rather well, too.

Michael Corvin
11-16-12, 10:26 AM
I can. The atmosphere created around the story's setting and ideology still remains one of my favorites, and it plays rather well, too.

Toss in the tonics, moral decisions and twist ending and you have a recipe for one of this generations best.

d2cheer
11-18-12, 12:26 PM
Can't believe the first game was so popular in this forum.

What an odd statement. This game was hyped big time when it came out; hell it is one of the reasons I bought the xbox360. I take it you didn't like it to make that post. To each their own...

Supermallet
11-18-12, 12:32 PM
Yeah, can't believe a highly rated, popular game that is widely considered one of the best of this generation would get so much attention on a video game forum.

Supermallet
11-18-12, 12:42 PM
Also, going back through this thread, I was so helpful. What happened to me?

Raul3
11-18-12, 08:42 PM
:lol:

It's actually in my Top 3 ever list.

It's just that other games are referenced more in this forum, but based in the two threads for this game this game should be more mentioned IMO.

wlj
11-20-12, 11:42 PM
Well just an update: I did get Bioshock working thank God. I right clicked on the shortcut, then properties, then in the target window I add "-dx9"

once i did that it started working.

Dan
07-22-13, 08:48 AM
Well, I decided to start playing this again. Popped it in my 360 and my last game save was from November 2007. :eek:

Played for about 4 hours and finished it. The final battle was WAY too easy (I was playing on Easy... just so I could get through it quickly while not losing focus on the story).

What a fucking awesome game. I remember losing interest in it back in 2007, but I have no idea why.

I can't wait to start Bioshock 2 now (still sealed!). By the time I'm done, Infinite will be $20. ;)

Lastblade
07-22-13, 08:54 AM
I need to finish 2 as well, I am at the end (I think). I love 2 a lot, probably one of my fav games this gen.