Michael Bay's production company Platinum Dunes plans to release a remake of "Friday the 13th" sometime in 2009 reports Variety.
First announced in January 2006, the project fell into development hell as time went on and Platinum Dunes released a series of failed remakes (Hitcher, Amityville) and prequels (TCM: The Beginning).
raven56706
08-01-07, 02:22 PM
rotfl.... wow...no original ideas huh
Groucho
08-01-07, 02:23 PM
I look forward to a scene where Mrs. Voorhees walks away from an explosion towards the camera in slow motion.
Obey The D
08-01-07, 02:24 PM
There was a thread about this a year or two ago IIRC. somehow I have a feeling that if they did this Jason would be the killer instead of his mom
Obey The D
08-01-07, 02:26 PM
I look forward to a scene where Mrs. Voorhees walks away from an explosion towards the camera in slow motion.
..and then the final showdown, where Will Smith, dressed in drag and playing the female lead, shouts "OH HELL NO!"
Giles
08-01-07, 02:33 PM
I look forward to a scene where Mrs. Voorhees walks away from an explosion towards the camera in slow motion.
add some annoying over the top patriotic music and it's Bay all the way!
RichC2
08-01-07, 02:35 PM
Let him, the original was mediocre to begin with.
Groucho
08-01-07, 02:38 PM
There's got to be an airplane. Has there ever been a Bay movie without an airplane?
Giles
08-01-07, 02:38 PM
Off topic:
I thought there were plans on remaking 'My Bloody Valetine' with the notorious censored scenes reshot and hopefully not getting spliced out by the MPAA this go around.
Giles
08-01-07, 02:39 PM
There's got to be an airplane. Has there ever been a Bay movie without an airplane?
that's in the same shot of Mrs. Voorhees walking away from the slow motion explosion.
silentbob007
08-01-07, 02:57 PM
I don't have a problem with it ... aren't bad or middling movies the ones that should be remade (if any should)?
starseed1981
08-01-07, 03:12 PM
I honestly wouldn't mind. I always thought the first one was rather plodding and boring for most of the film.
PixyJunket
08-01-07, 03:15 PM
I don't have a problem with it ... aren't bad or middling movies the ones that should be remade (if any should)?But it's Michael Bay and a remake in one thread title, that's like a gold mine for smarmy internet whining. :lol:
Chad
08-01-07, 03:56 PM
rotfl.... wow...no original ideas huh
At this point I don't think the word originality even exists in mainstream horror anymore.
Yet another.... Worst. Idea. Ever.
Anyway, on a recent FANGORIA Radio F13 special this was discussed and somewhat brought up an interesting point - since Jason and the hockey mask are so synonymous with the series, does the possibility exist that they'd just altogether skip the whole storyline of the mother being the original killer and go straight to the Jason legacy?
And why do I have the distinct feeling that the duration of this remake is going to be comprised of the first few minutes of Jason Goes to Hell with the police snipers stretched out to 90 minutes? :D
devilshalo
08-01-07, 04:03 PM
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=479396
Draven
08-01-07, 04:03 PM
I'm sure there will be some sterotypical "hackers" that figure out the mom is the killer, but it's too late to warn the military.
Artman
08-01-07, 04:04 PM
Let him, the original was mediocre to begin with.
Agreed.
DthRdrX
08-01-07, 04:50 PM
My guess ....
Two plot twists ... two killers ... just when his mother is discovered as the killer, ala the original, we find out that there is another killer and it's Jason's father who was no where to be found in the original series and has been a question among fans for years. Of course this saves Jason to be used in eventual sequels and would be an easy way of him getting the mask again from his relative instead of just picking it up off a teenager.
O yea and no Crazy Ralph = no sale.
Groucho
08-01-07, 04:53 PM
I, for one, welcome the tender spearing of Kevin Bacon while a Aerosmith ballad plays in the background.
VHS?
08-01-07, 05:13 PM
Bad idea period no matter who wants to write/direct/produce...
LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!!!
It is what it is and thats what makes it.I wish Hollywood would leave shit alone and stop thinking they have to remake everything.Get some people who can think of NEW IDEAS.It's not like everything has been done yet.
Remaking Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm St. ( please no ) is like walking on sacred grounds.These are franchises that made horror and created icons.
Just my opinion but I don't care who wants to do them.I don't need a re imaging of something I am already fond of just because the lazy asses around the Hollywood think-tank have nothing new to come up with and run through old flicks picking straws on what one to remake.
rennervision
08-01-07, 06:23 PM
Not sure if I understand why some people find this upsetting. Weren't all the Friday the 13th movies actually remakes of the original?
DthRdrX
08-01-07, 06:32 PM
Not sure if I understand why some people find this upsetting. Weren't all the Friday the 13th movies actually remakes of the original?
Technically, many could and would argue Friday the 13th terribly ripped off various 70s films anyway, most noticably Bay of Blood. I'd rather a remake than another shitty sequel though so I have no objections..
VHS?
08-01-07, 06:55 PM
Not sure if I understand why some people find this upsetting. Weren't all the Friday the 13th movies actually remakes of the original?
:lol: Thats the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard.
How anyone cant see the continuing saga that carries on though the series......... :rolleyes:
mhg83
08-01-07, 07:22 PM
If they ever plan to make another nightmare on elm street, It better not be a remake of the original. Theres nothing wrong with that film that would call for a remake. I'd love to see a prequal instead. That would be the only horror film I could see pulling off a good prequel. Theres so much background given throughout the series of Freddys past that could make a really good story.
Ronnie Dobbs
08-01-07, 08:23 PM
My guess ....
Two plot twists ... two killers ... just when his mother is discovered as the killer, ala the original, we find out that there is another killer and it's Jason's father who was no where to be found in the original series and has been a question among fans for years. Of course this saves Jason to be used in eventual sequels and would be an easy way of him getting the mask again from his relative instead of just picking it up off a teenager.
I find your spoiler to actually be an entertaining idea.
Daytripper
08-01-07, 08:27 PM
Let him, the original was mediocre to begin with.
Mediocre!? My aren't you kind! ;)
clemente
08-01-07, 08:35 PM
Remaking Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm St. ( please no ) is like walking on sacred grounds.These are franchises that made horror and created icons.
Hallowed ground? Really?!?!
I do think remaking NOES would be stupid, Friday the 13th was not original in the least and not even that innovative, it was a simple slasher film.
KillerCannibal
08-01-07, 08:48 PM
From what I read last year the writers (if they're even still using the same writers now) planned to condense parts 1-3, remove Mommy as the killer and have Jason resurrected, get the mask and do lots of killing in one film. I'm a sucker for anything F13th, so if they want to give me another film of Jason slashing it up, I'm game.
VHS?
08-01-07, 09:05 PM
To most of the horror community, yes.Maybe not for the avid movie goer who likes a scary flick here and there.These films made a big impact on horror.Before them, horror was on the outside trying to look in.Sure now we have what we call classics such as Last House on the Left and Black Christmas, even The Exorcist.But they weren't mainstream media.
When 'characters' like Jason and Freddy, and Micheal came along, it have horror a new name.I would like to think they set the stage for horror as the leaders for others to follow.
VHS?
08-01-07, 09:39 PM
According to IMDB, Untitled Friday the 13th Sequel (2009) (in production) (producer)
Sequel?
I hope this doesn't mean he (Micheal Bay) will end each kill with an explosion.... :rolleyes:
Maxflier
08-01-07, 10:51 PM
Just my opinion but I don't care who wants to do them.I don't need a re imaging of something I am already fond of just because the lazy asses around the Hollywood think-tank have nothing new to come up with and run through old flicks picking straws on what one to remake.
You don't have to watch it if you are so against it being remade.
People complaining about remakes is something I just do not get. No one is making you watch it, the original is and always will still be there for you to watch.
Do you guys get all bent out of shape when a band covers another bands song?
VHS?
08-01-07, 11:14 PM
The problem is, is that it sometimes, in most cases looks like shit!
It has nothing to do with me watching it.It has to do with these movies being remade for no reason other than trying to cash in again on something that already did.This doesn't guarantee anything but they just have to try.
What it ends up doing is getting together a shit cast of hip hop stars and made for TV actors that is worse than the original.
Do I have to watch them? No but that doesn't mean they should or shouldn't be made. What determines that is they were already done the way it was meant to be. How many times does a movie need a remake? It isn't changing the story at all.It isn't changing plot.It was made the way it was made and should be left alone.
I wasn't in favor of the Halloween remake and I'm not in favor of this.Will I watch either? Probably but it doesn't mean that I am OK with it.I wouldn't loose sleep if they were never made either.
cranberries fan
08-02-07, 12:22 AM
Here is a list of flim Michael Bay would want to Remake:
#1 Citizen Kane
#2 Casablanca
#3 The Godfather
#4 Gone With the Wind
#5 Lawrence of Arabia
#6 The Wizard of Oz
#7 The Graduate
#8 On the Waterfront
#9 Schindler's List
#10 Singin' In the Rain
#11 It's a Wonderful Life
#12 Sunset Boulevard
#13 The Bridge on the River Kwai
#14 Some Like It Hot
#15 Star Wars
#16 All About Eve
#17 The African Queen
#18 Psycho
#19 Chinatown
#20 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
#21 The Grapes Of Wrath
#22 2001: A Space Odyssey
#23 The Maltese Falcon
#24 Raging Bull
#25 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial
#26 Dr. Strangelove
#27 Bonnie and Clyde
#28 Apocalypse Now
#29 Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
#30 The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
#31 Annie Hall
#32 The Godfather Part II
#33 High Noon
#34 To Kill a Mockingbird
#35 It Happened One Night
#36 Midnight Cowboy
#37 The Best Years of Our Lives
#38 Double Indemnity
#39 Doctor Zhivago
#40 North By Northwest
#41 West Side Story
#42 Rear Window
#43 King Kong
#44 The Birth of a Nation
#45 A Streetcar Named Desire
#46 A Clockwork Orange
#47 Taxi Driver
#48 Jaws 1975
#49 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
#50 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
#51 The Philadelphia Story
#52 From Here to Eternity
#53 Amadeus
#54 All Quiet on the Western Front
#55 The Sound of Music
#56 M*A*S*H
#57 The Third Man
#58 Fantasia 1940
#59 Rebel Without A Cause
#60 Raiders of the Lost Ark
#61 Vertigo 1958
#62 Tootsie 1982
#63 Stagecoach
#64 Close Encounters of the Third Kind
#65 The Silence of the Lambs
#66 Network
#67 The Manchurian Candidate
#68 An American In Paris
#69 Shane
#70 The French Connection
#71 Forrest Gump
#72 Ben-Hur 1959
#73 Wuthering Heights
#74 The Gold Rush
#75 Dances With Wolves
#76 City Lights
#77 American Graffiti
#78 Rocky 1976
#79 The Deer Hunter
#80 The Wild Bunch
#81 Modern Times
#82 Giant
#83 Platoon
#84 Fargo
#85 Duck Soup
#86 Mutiny on the Bounty
#87 Frankenstein
#88 Easy Rider
#89 Patton
#90 The Jazz Singer
#91 My Fair Lady
#92 A Place in the Sun
#93 The Apartment
#94 Goodfellas
#95 Pulp Fiction
#96 The Searchers
#97 Bringing Up Baby
#98 Unforgiven
#99 Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
#100 Yankee Doodle Dandy
That should keep him keep him buzy for a for years working on these flims.
FRwL
08-02-07, 02:22 AM
What i liked most about the original was the atmosphere (also maintained in II).
Bay doesn't even know the meaning of that word.
Michael Ballack
08-02-07, 02:25 AM
and it's going to be pg 13 too. rotfl
AllHallowsEve
08-02-07, 04:10 AM
This is such old news... "Variety" mentions that studios are doing these resurrections because horror is flagging.
A Platinum Dunes remake would never be anything but "R." However, as the Texas Chainsaw remake movies proved, sometimes that isn't enough.
There's been talks of a solo "Friday" film for years -- after Freddy vs. Jason made over $100 million w.w. and the Ash idea died. First it was the Ultimate Friday, then the homage to the early films, and then that turned into this remake.
Platinum Dunes handling this doesn't go over with me. I'd prefer New Line handle it themselves. Actually, ship it back to Paramount. New Line never did know how to make one of these films, and the execs. appear to be stoned with the ideas they've actually greenlit in this series.
After the "Halloween" remake hits big -- which it will -- I'm sure we'll be seeing even more remakes (slasher section; Hollywood's already killed ghosts during the chinese ghost phase).
The original "Friday the 13th" was a hit at the time -- as were its 2nd and 3rd sequel. All three consistantly broke the R-rated top 10 list their respective years. Love the series or hate it, it did make a pretty big impact in the horror world -- and even mainstream world -- all those years ago.
What truly killed this series and turned the character into a laughing stock began with "Jason Lives" and only got worse and worse till he entered the final frontier. A damn shame really. Much worse considering there were a better ideas.
This series also did create an icon -- which the vast majority of series are unable to do. Only a handful of series have actually done it. That's what I think others mean. However, he's a ruined icon, and the only way to even try and repair him is to start over -- if anything needs to be started at all. There's no way around it.
This is one case where no remake could hurt him as much as he has been hurt already. He is arguably the most damaged horror icon of all.
AllHallowsEve
08-02-07, 04:16 AM
What i liked most about the original was the atmosphere (also maintained in II).
Bay doesn't even know the meaning of that word.
This is very true. Bay sucks at atmosphere.
I'd love for the "Friday" film to start over with substance this time. It's a perfect opportunity to start it over with a decent script, spooky cinematography, etc.
However, they'll probably just toss it out quickly for a quick buck. Jason's always been shafted.
Ronnie Dobbs
08-02-07, 09:01 AM
Here is a list of flim Michael Bay would want to Remake:
#1 Citizen Kane
#2 Casablanca
#3 The Godfather
#4 Gone With the Wind
#5 Lawrence of Arabia
#6 The Wizard of Oz
#7 The Graduate
#8 On the Waterfront
#9 Schindler's List
#10 Singin' In the Rain
#11 It's a Wonderful Life
#12 Sunset Boulevard
#13 The Bridge on the River Kwai
#14 Some Like It Hot
#15 Star Wars
#16 All About Eve
#17 The African Queen
#18 Psycho
#19 Chinatown
#20 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
#21 The Grapes Of Wrath
#22 2001: A Space Odyssey
#23 The Maltese Falcon
#24 Raging Bull
#25 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial
#26 Dr. Strangelove
#27 Bonnie and Clyde
#28 Apocalypse Now
#29 Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
#30 The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
#31 Annie Hall
#32 The Godfather Part II
#33 High Noon
#34 To Kill a Mockingbird
#35 It Happened One Night
#36 Midnight Cowboy
#37 The Best Years of Our Lives
#38 Double Indemnity
#39 Doctor Zhivago
#40 North By Northwest
#41 West Side Story
#42 Rear Window
#43 King Kong
#44 The Birth of a Nation
#45 A Streetcar Named Desire
#46 A Clockwork Orange
#47 Taxi Driver
#48 Jaws 1975
#49 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
#50 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
#51 The Philadelphia Story
#52 From Here to Eternity
#53 Amadeus
#54 All Quiet on the Western Front
#55 The Sound of Music
#56 M*A*S*H
#57 The Third Man
#58 Fantasia 1940
#59 Rebel Without A Cause
#60 Raiders of the Lost Ark
#61 Vertigo 1958
#62 Tootsie 1982
#63 Stagecoach
#64 Close Encounters of the Third Kind
#65 The Silence of the Lambs
#66 Network
#67 The Manchurian Candidate
#68 An American In Paris
#69 Shane
#70 The French Connection
#71 Forrest Gump
#72 Ben-Hur 1959
#73 Wuthering Heights
#74 The Gold Rush
#75 Dances With Wolves
#76 City Lights
#77 American Graffiti
#78 Rocky 1976
#79 The Deer Hunter
#80 The Wild Bunch
#81 Modern Times
#82 Giant
#83 Platoon
#84 Fargo
#85 Duck Soup
#86 Mutiny on the Bounty
#87 Frankenstein
#88 Easy Rider
#89 Patton
#90 The Jazz Singer
#91 My Fair Lady
#92 A Place in the Sun
#93 The Apartment
#94 Goodfellas
#95 Pulp Fiction
#96 The Searchers
#97 Bringing Up Baby
#98 Unforgiven
#99 Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
#100 Yankee Doodle Dandy
That should keep him keep him buzy for a for years working on these flims.
Somebody already beat him to Rear Window, Psycho, and King Kong.
nateman
08-02-07, 09:43 AM
^^^ Oh, gowd imagine if Michael Bay did a remake of Schindler's List.
I love the Friday the 13th series, It's probally more of a guilty pleasure though. Jason Voorhees in my books is the greatest horror character in the horror genre, followed by Leatherface, Michael Myers, Chucky & the rest of them all shill in comparison.
I'd welcome a Michael Bay remake of Friday the 13th as long as it's Jason in the movie & not the mother. Friday the 13th: Part II is better then the first in my opinion & even through the first one was good, It just didn't have the entertainment value as Part II did. I do appreciate the first Friday the 13th, based on the fact that it had a "Twist" ending of sorts. The TCM remake wasn't bad, Jessica Biel probally hide some of the Bay "Crappiness" with her sexiness.
I guess the Freddy vs Jason thing is over now, huh?
Giles
08-02-07, 09:45 AM
I agree they should remake Part 2 and film the censored scenes that are now lost forever - notably the shish-kabobbed lovers scene.
stingermck
08-02-07, 09:59 AM
Why remake something that just had a sequel a few years ago?
joliom
08-02-07, 04:40 PM
To most of the horror community, yes.Maybe not for the avid movie goer who likes a scary flick here and there.These films made a big impact on horror.Before them, horror was on the outside trying to look in.Sure now we have what we call classics such as Last House on the Left and Black Christmas, even The Exorcist.But they weren't mainstream media.
When 'characters' like Jason and Freddy, and Micheal came along, it have horror a new name.I would like to think they set the stage for horror as the leaders for others to follow.
Sorry, but The Exorcist was very mainstream. It was one of the highest grossing films of the decade, the theme music ("Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield) was a Top Ten Pop hit, and I dare say it was referenced more frequently in '70s pop culture then any other film besides maybe The Godfather. The only other horror film from the '70s that enjoyed as much mainstream popularity was Jaws.
Seantn
08-02-07, 04:41 PM
As of last year, the producers made it very clear that this was NOT a remake (although many media sources reported it as such), but it was actually a continuation of Jason's killings, more in the vein of parts 2-4.
DthRdrX
08-02-07, 06:51 PM
As of last year, the producers made it very clear that this was NOT a remake (although many media sources reported it as such), but it was actually a continuation of Jason's killings, more in the vein of parts 2-4.
Yea, but they have scrapped ideas on the project so many times we don't know what the story is. Also, this is Bay's production company mentioned here in the story, not Bay directing himself. I can't see him taking a film with such a small budget after doing a 150 million dollar film!
The real question is who currently holds the rights to "Friday the 13th" ?
inri222
08-02-07, 07:50 PM
The real question is who currently holds the rights to "Friday the 13th" ?
I think that would be Sean S. Cunningham
burnside986
08-02-07, 08:40 PM
that's in the same shot of Mrs. Voorhees walking away from the slow motion explosion.
The plane causes the explosion. O.o
SterlingBen
08-23-07, 10:35 PM
I did a forum search and didn't come up with anything on this so I thought I would post it (sorry if it has already been beatenb to death)
Michael Bay's production company Platinum Dunes (Texas Chainsaw Massacre) is developing a Friday the 13th film for New Line Cinema. According to Variety.com, Jonathan Liebesman (Darkness Falls, Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning) is in final negotiations to direct. Mark Wheaton was briefly on the project as screenwriter, but is no longer involved. Per producer Brad Fuller, the new film will not be a direct sequel to Freddy vs. Jason or Jason X, but instead seems to be a remake/reimagining of the first 3-4 films of the series. New Line owns the Friday the 13th title, but no subtitle (if any) has been announced for this new film. The project was on hold while rights issues were dealt with. Now it appears that those issues have been worked out, with the Platinum Dunes producers saying that the film will be a Paramount/New Line co-production and might be ready for release near the end of 2008.
From this site http://www.fridaythe13thfilms.com/films/newfriday.html
There are also lots of updates (Variety says it might not come until 09)
brianluvdvd
08-23-07, 10:50 PM
I am sick of this remake/reimagining crap.
Put their time and money into making a decent sequel if they must do something.
cardsfan111
08-23-07, 10:56 PM
Count me as one of the suckers who will go see this when/if it's released....as bad as all the sequels have been, I'll be checking it out. Guess that's why they keep making 'em!
SmartisSexy
08-23-07, 10:56 PM
I am sick of this remake/reimagining crap.
Put their time and money into making a decent sequel if they must do something.
I agree, but clearly no one has any original ideas left.
devilshalo
08-23-07, 11:14 PM
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=507932
Legolas
08-24-07, 01:14 AM
I am sick of this remake/reimagining crap.
Put their time and money into making a decent sequel if they must do something.
How do you make a decent sequel to something where every movie in the franchise has sucked? This isn't remaking Halloween or The Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Psycho. It's just Friday the 13th for crying out loud.
AllHallowsEve
08-24-07, 02:48 AM
How do you make a decent sequel to something where every movie in the franchise has sucked? This isn't remaking Halloween or The Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Psycho. It's just Friday the 13th for crying out loud.
That's a matter of opinion. I happen to enjoy some of the earlier films in the series and am not afraid to admit it. :)
Shoot me if you must, but I enjoy "Friday the 13th" and "Elm Street" a hell of a lot more than I enjoy any of the :Texas Chainsaw Massacre: movies -- including the original. The TCM series has provided me with nothing but dullness and boredom. The constant screaming from Sally bordered on pure annoyance.
Some of the Friday the 13th films are pretty bad, but I can't ever say I was bored when I watched them back in the day. That is until the atrocious "Jason" series stuck out its ugly head. Basically, I enjoyed the Friday the 13th series, but abhored the Jason series -- Freddy vs. Jason being the ultimate worst.
Well, you must just not like old movies... Not true at all. Psycho '60 is one of my favorite horror films, for example. Ditto with Halloween '78, Black Christmas '74, and Night of the Living Dead '68.
SterlingBen
08-24-07, 03:10 AM
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=507932
oops, I wonder why it wasn't on the first 3 pages of forum search
Giggles
08-24-07, 07:31 AM
How do you make a decent sequel to something where every movie in the franchise has sucked? This isn't remaking Halloween or The Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Psycho. It's just Friday the 13th for crying out loud.Well, the 1st and the 2nd parts were pretty scary, I still remember how frightened I was watching them at the age of 13-14. Given the fact they really CAN make nice remakes now (recalling The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes) I believe they'd be able to shoot really gruesome and frightening flick.
Drop
08-24-07, 08:33 AM
I think there is a lot of potential to restart this franchise. They have a lot of characters they can start over and better set up a more cohesive mythology.
I enjoy the originals a lot (4 the most and 6 the least, haven't seen 9 or X), but there have been so many sequels at this point that they can do whatever to the next film. Personally I'd make the series into a camfire type, and just not bother with continuity between films, and instead just give the film to a new director each time out and let him do anything he wanted with it. One could go mindless with slasher, some could go psychological, some could go supernatural, and any other shit they could come up with. Just try to bring the quality of each individual film up.
Obey The D
08-24-07, 08:50 AM
oops, I wonder why it wasn't on the first 3 pages of forum search
If you use the advanced forum search you can specify if you want to search entire threads or the title only. I did a title only search for the word "Friday" and the first page of results had two threads regarding the remake.
nateman
08-24-07, 09:54 AM
How do you make a decent sequel to something where every movie in the franchise has sucked? This isn't remaking Halloween or The Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Psycho. It's just Friday the 13th for crying out loud.
Even through it’s probably more of a guilty pleasure, I’ve enjoyed all the Friday the 13th films with the exception of Jason X & Freddy vs Jason, and they’re not part of the series by name.
With the exception of maybe Halloween: II, the first Halloween was really the only good movie in the franchise. It’s an excellent movie in my opinion but the sequels are all terrible pieces of sh*t & much worse than any of the Friday the 13th sequels.
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre films have been pretty decent. The original was excellent, TCM: 2 was weird & over the top but I was lovin’ every minute of it. I’ve never seen Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre III. TCM: The Next Generation was just plain out terrible. I enjoyed the 03’ remake of the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre even through it didn’t have the filming style of the original & it was very polished. The latest & (according to the studio) last TCM film, TCM: The Beginning, was decent but it didn’t live up to its potential.
Psycho 1, 2, 3 & 4 were all excellent & only the shot-by-shot remake sucked, I don’t even count that mess as part of the franchise.
I would rather see a good sequel made than another Michael Bay remake.
resinrats
08-24-07, 11:26 AM
I'd be more interested in a Friday the 13th remake than the Halloween one. Frankly, I don't see how Halloween is liked so much. Maybe because I didn't see it until 4 years ago but it seems just filled with horror movie cliches (maybe it started them but since I didn't see it first, it seems cliche to me) that I couldn't take it seriously.
Not that Friday the 13th is some great movie making either. It has the same cliches as Halloween but maybe because I watched them much younger, I like it better. Friday the 13th just seems more interesting to watch.
KillerCannibal
08-24-07, 12:17 PM
I'm game. Considering I've been a lifelong F13th fan I'll watch anything they put the big bastard in, as long as it includes plenty of premarital sex, drug use and gory death. I don't have the most faith in Platinum Dunes, but it's pretty hard to totally fuck up a Jason film. Besides, at this point, and after outer space, they can't really do anything else that hasn't been done <i>except</i> to reawaken the franchise.
Giggles
08-24-07, 12:41 PM
I'm game. Considering I've been a lifelong F13th fan I'll watch anything they put the big bastard in, as long as it includes plenty of premarital sex, drug use and gory death. ...and Kane Hodder which is obligatory!
Seantn
08-24-07, 01:42 PM
I hope they don't use Kane. I used to think he was a good Jason, but I don't think that anymore. He just made Jason to be really pissed off and a heavy breather. Jason is obviously pissed off in all the movies, otherwise why is he killing, so no need to add in all the pissed off mannerisms. Anyway, Kane is actually in some of the worst ones (Jason Takes Manhattan, Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X) The only crappier one that he isn't in is part 5.
I'd prefer if they just got a new guy to play Jason, and not even use the guy from Freddy Vs. Jason, as he wasn't that good either. My favorite Jasons were the ones from Part 4 and part 6.
scott1598
08-24-07, 01:52 PM
I did a forum search and didn't come up with anything on this so I thought I would post it
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=507932
SpaceBoy
08-24-07, 02:22 PM
I can't wait for this, I agree with a few here, I prefer the FF movies over the Halloween series or the TCM series. Sure they're not great, but they're at least exciting and pretty different terms of the deaths.
Count me in. I thought there was talk of an Ash Vs Jason Vs Freddy or something absurd, that I would also for sure see :)
Seantn
08-24-07, 02:31 PM
New Line Cinema needs to realize that they should stick to the formula that works. Ever since they took over with "Jason Goes to Hell", they allowed the series to try and change what made F13 popular, and it hasn't worked. Actually, it started while Jason was at Paramount. Jason left Crystal Lake and went on a boat, and then to Manhattan in the awful "Jason takes Manhattan". Then in part 9, Jason goes on some stupid body hopping spree (This movie is one of the worst in the series), then Jason goes to space in Jason X?
Come on, just keep him in Crystal Lake (and in his own body!)
And for goodness sake, keep Sean Cunningham AWAY from this series! If you read the book "Crystal Lake Memories", you get to see that he isn't really even a horror fan, and he is a big reason why Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X are the way they are.
mdc3000
08-24-07, 03:34 PM
Jonathan Liebsman = I'm skipping it. This guy has made two shitty movies in this genre that made me want to poke my eyes out, I'm not up for a third round of punishment.
Seantn
08-24-07, 04:54 PM
Liebesman sucks for sure. After Darkness Falls he said that he didn't have control over it, BUT that Texas Chainsaw turned out exactly the way he wanted. So I figured i'd give him another chance, and I saw it... TCM: The Beginning was just awful.
Digigeek06
08-24-07, 11:37 PM
You have to be kidding me,you do not put a crap director like this to do a remake of one of the most popular slashers of all time.Hell,why dont they just let Tom Savini direct and do the SFX together,that would be awesome!
SterlingBen
08-24-07, 11:54 PM
Sorry about the search blunder
but
It doesn't matter if this movie is any good or not, they have to push it out so the can make (counting FvJ) Friday the 13th part 13 which needs to be released with an X rating, have Caligula style sex, ultra gore and horrible things I can't even imagine
nateman
08-25-07, 09:46 AM
Sorry about the search blunder
but
It doesn't matter if this movie is any good or not, they have to push it out so the can make (counting FvJ) Friday the 13th part 13 which needs to be released with an X rating, have Caligula style sex, ultra gore and horrible things I can't even imagine
I’d love to see Peter O’Toole in Friday the 13th: part 13.
Giggles
08-25-07, 10:07 AM
Caligula style sex, ultra gore and horrible things I can't even imagineYou got the point with horrible things - that's exactly what's needed, but you got me laughing over Caligula style sex... rotfl
LivingINClip
08-25-07, 07:13 PM
A sequel to Jason X would be nice. Maybe I'm weird, but I thought it was the perfect way to go with the series, make it a self parody.
AllHallowsEve
09-17-07, 11:54 PM
New News!
The "Friday the 13th" redo is finally underway -- though it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone after "Halloween's" Labor Day weekend success stint at the box office.
This is a very early work in progress, so directors, etc. are not known at this time.
The duo who wrote "Freddy vs. Jason" are set to write the piece. As someone who hated "Freddy vs. Jason," I feel a little apprehensive about it. Then again, they weren't happy with what Ronny Yu did to their script either or the casting choices, so there's hope.
Here's hoping New Line obtains someone with some style to direct. It would be funny if the movie actually came out well because no one will be expecting it to be of any worth -- especially after other recent remakes. I wish the project the best, for my own amusement, because I'd like to see something good come out of this.
Important note: Jonathon Liebsman is not set to direct yet. There is no director set to work on this project yet. It's still very much up in the air, and more news should be known in the coming months.
Shooting is expected to begin in '08.
Linn1
09-18-07, 12:34 AM
The "Friday the 13th" redo is finally underway -- though it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone after "Halloween's" Labor Day weekend success stint at the box office.
I'd be right there with you, if your last sentence was, "Even though it sucked." What a horrid piece of crap that was. Like the vast majority of remakes.
DRG
09-18-07, 11:35 AM
Well, my old approach to this sort of thing would have been "Well, it can't be worse than some of the sequels". And then I saw Rob Zombie's Halloween and realized it can be a lot worse.
KillerCannibal
09-18-07, 11:49 AM
I'm a huge F13th fan, so I'm all for a new film coming to theaters. I think that after Jason X (which was better than it had any right to be) and FvJ (which was fun, but totally uneven) this could be a fresh breath for the series. As long as we get Hodder back and have Jason slicing up campers like he should be, I'm down. I don't have a lot of faith in PD, though, so I'm hoping they don't fuck it up too much.
Seantn
09-18-07, 12:27 PM
Eh...I feel that Hodder isn't that great of a Jason (and i'm a huge Jason fan). He's also been a part of some of the worst in the series (7, 8, 9, and X).
I used to think he was pretty good, but I've grown to dislike his portrayal of Jason. Too much heavy breathing like Jason has asthma. I much preferred the Jason of part 4 and part 6.
KillerCannibal
09-18-07, 03:32 PM
I much preferred the Jason of part 4 and part 6.
Well I'm pretty sure both Tom White and C.J. Graham are available, but White didn't enjoy playing the role (did it for the $, what else). I wonder what the odds of them asking Graham would be.
Seantn
09-18-07, 03:47 PM
Yeah, White hated being in part 4. Graham, on the other hand, seemed to enjoy it. He actually said he would have returned for Part 7, but they didn't ask him to.
Have you read "Crystal Lake Memories"? Really interesting book, reveals a lot of neat stories behind the scenes - Such as that the entire male cast of Part 7 was gay. One of the cast members calls it "Fri-Gay the 13th".
And part 5 was directed by a former porn director who didn't know what he was doing. He kept hitting on one of the actresses before filming started, and when she shot down his advances, he fired her. The casting directors for part 5 also did part 6, so they brought her back and got her cast in part 6 instead.
Also, when interviewing people from part 1, about 3 or 4 different people try to take sole responsibility for Jason's look, saying it was their idea.
On Jason Goes to Hell, they hired some 23 year old to direct it who didn't know what he was doing. They tried to put the film together and said that they were only able to piece together about 50-55 minutes worth of stuff that was actually usable, so they had to do re-shoots.
It also becomes very evident that Sean Cunningham should not be allowed near any future installments of this series! If you're a Friday fan, you should check it out.
Superboy
09-18-07, 03:55 PM
It might be interesting to see the final scene in ultra-ultra-ultra slow motion this time.
joliom
09-20-07, 08:53 PM
They should just do a Project Greenlight type thing with it. Let fans submit spec scripts and film reels, and pick the writer & director that way. It can't be any worse than handing it off to all these overblown Hollywood hacks.
nateman
09-21-07, 06:18 AM
They should just do a Project Greenlight type thing with it. Let fans submit spec scripts and film reels, and pick the writer & director that way. It can't be any worse than handing it off to all these overblown Hollywood hacks.
I can see it now, a romantic comedy with social commentary.
I agree though, I think they should do what they did with Snakes on a Plane & let the people who are actually going to watch the thing have some input on the movie & what they’d like too see. There is a big enough fan base & the fans would be thrilled too take part.
I enjoyed the 03’ remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre but it felt generic. Let’s make this remake of Friday the 13th unique & different from the constant sh*t the studios have been producing in the horror genre.
joliom
09-21-07, 08:31 PM
Maybe they could have a contest where fans submit story treatments and then everyone votes on which they like best. Then the winning treatment will get handed off to a professional screenwriter and the winner gets flown out to attend the premiere or gets a walk-on cameo or something (plus the 'based on an original treatment by' credit, of course). I think something like that would be a lot more fun and drum up more fan interest then just vomiting out another unoriginal, uninspired "reimagining" by some crappy Michael Bay wannabe.
nateman
09-22-07, 10:05 AM
Maybe they could have a contest where fans submit story treatments and then everyone votes on which they like best. Then the winning treatment will get handed off to a professional screenwriter and the winner gets flown out to attend the premiere or gets a walk-on cameo or something (plus the 'based on an original treatment by' credit, of course). I think something like that would be a lot more fun and drum up more fan interest then just vomiting out another unoriginal, uninspired "reimagining" by some crappy Michael Bay wannabe.
That’s a fantastic idea, too bad it’ll probably never happen.
Me, you, Mike Garris & the ‘gang’ from the Masters of Horror might think like that but studios sadly think different & they’re the ones that pay for the projects.
Most of the unoriginal, uninspired "re-imagining" garbage horror/thriller movies make the studio money & if it keeps bringing in the dough, then they ain’t going to try anything ‘new’ or ‘risky’. I think the Horror genre is in a huge creative rut & anything slightly original or new either doesn’t get distributed or it doesn’t even make it to the point of actually getting filmed & it’s just stuck on the drawing board & never gets made.
I doubt we will ever see an original horror movie that turns into a ‘classic’ like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween, The Amityville Horror, Friday the 13th, etc… & we sure as hell will never see another original movie like Psycho again. I like the Saw franchise but it really doesn’t have that ‘classic’ feel.
KillerCannibal
09-22-07, 10:20 AM
I doubt we will ever see an original horror movie that turns into a ‘classic’ like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween, The Amityville Horror, Friday the 13th, etc… & we sure as hell will never see another original movie like Psycho again. I like the Saw franchise but it really doesn’t have that ‘classic’ feel.
As a horror fan you can't possibly say that. Many of those films you named weren't even considered classics until years after their release. None of the films made today that might be considered classics at that point are even old enough to warrant consideration yet. I'm sure 15 years from now, when we look back on these new horror films, there are bound to be a few that truly stick out as classics in their own right. But, much like yourself, I couldn't name one right now.
CreatureX
09-22-07, 10:57 AM
As a horror fan you can't possibly say that. Many of those films you named weren't even considered classics until years after their release. None of the films made today that might be considered classics at that point are even old enough to warrant consideration yet. I'm sure 15 years from now, when we look back on these new horror films, there are bound to be a few that truly stick out as classics in their own right. But, much like yourself, I couldn't name one right now. I agree with your thoughts KC! :clap:
As for modern day horror classics, I would put down 'The Descent', '28 Days Later' and 'High Tension' on my list! :D
nateman
09-24-07, 10:09 AM
As a horror fan you can't possibly say that. Many of those films you named weren't even considered classics until years after their release. None of the films made today that might be considered classics at that point are even old enough to warrant consideration yet. I'm sure 15 years from now, when we look back on these new horror films, there are bound to be a few that truly stick out as classics in their own right. But, much like yourself, I couldn't name one right now.
I guess your rite but it’s just hard to consider any of the current horror films classics when %90 of them are re-makes or sh*t.
devilshalo
10-02-07, 09:19 AM
Duo pumps new blood into 'Friday the 13th'
By Borys Kit
Oct 2, 2007
A scene from "Jason X," the 10th film in the Friday the 13th series
Damian Shannon and Mark Swift have been tapped to write "Friday the 13th," the remake of the horror classic being produced by Platinum Dunes for New Line.
Paramount released the original "Friday" in 1980, making Jason -- the unstoppable hockey mask-wearing killer -- a horror icon, though the serial killer made only a brief appearance in the final frames of the first movie and never killed anyone. Jason didn't even don the famous mask until the third movie.
The remake, however, will focus on Jason -- who will wear the mask and kill -- and keep the famous setting of Crystal Lake.
Michael Bay, Andrew Form and Brad Fuller are producing.
Paramount and MTV Films also are involved with the project.
The duo's boarding pumps a blood transfusion into the remake, setting it up as a possible prestrike project. The writers are no strangers to Jason, having penned 2003's "Freddy vs. Jason," the killer's last big-screen appearance. That film grossed more than $82 million domestically.
Shannon and Swift's other collaborative credits include "Hawaiian Dick" and "Power and Glory" at New Line and Universal's "Spy Hunter."
Shannon and Swift are repped by CAA, Magnet Management and Colden, McKuin and Frankel.
KillerCannibal
10-02-07, 11:03 AM
I'm not sure how I feel about these two writing the film. FvJ was fun, but it also had some really bad lines and a horribly weak cast. I can only hope that most of what sucked in that film was the fault of Yu, so maybe these guys have a good script in them after all. As long as they don't fuck it up too much this could become a worthwhile entry in the series. I eagerly await a script review.
Seantn
10-02-07, 01:19 PM
Wait, so it's New Line, Paramount, MTV Films, AND Platinum Dunes?
They're all involved in the film? I don't get that.
KillerCannibal
10-02-07, 01:34 PM
Wait, so it's New Line, Paramount, MTV Films, AND Platinum Dunes?
They're all involved in the film? I don't get that.
Well, NL owns the franchise rights currently so that's a given they're involved.
Paramount, IIRC, still owns the Friday the 13th moniker (although I kinda doubt that), and they own the series up to part 8. Since this film would delve into origins it might make sense they would be involved.
Platinum Dunes have the remake rights. I would assume they are involved since Paramount is involved since this is Bay's company and he has ties to Paramount.
MTV? Beats the shit out of me, but I smell a bad idea for marketing with for equally pungent cast.
Drop
10-02-07, 02:23 PM
I just hope they make Jason scary. That's all I want, and I'd prefer if he wasn't a giant like he gradually became. Who ever plays him next should take notes from Ted White.
Seantn
10-02-07, 02:46 PM
After 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, X, and F vs J.... Jason isn't scary, so you can kiss that dream goodbye.
I do agree with you that he should be like Ted White...or CJ Graham. Those were the best Jasons (but if I had to choose, it'd be Ted White all the way). Early Jason would be the model for maybe getting somewhere near being creepy...I just think with how goofy/cheesy the movies are, it'll be impossible to actually be scared of this guy since we've become so accustomed to seeing him as an unstoppable maniac. Besides, most people root for Jason anyway. And if the filmmakers go in that direction, I don't know if they'll actually try to make him scary.
That was kind of Jason's downfall. When they realized that Jason was the hero, they tried to make him look cool and give him personality (part 7), which was where the series started to turn, IMO. I look at 8, 9, and X as some of the worst in the series (part 5 wins that title, though...such a shitty film)
kurupt
10-02-07, 03:10 PM
In terms of Jason being "scary," the Jason of Part 2 was the most effective in my opinion. A normal sized, but homicidally crazed maniacal hillbilly. The gigantic and unstoppable monstrous killing machine that he's become isn't very scary to me. Don't get me wrong, I love nostalgically love the entire series (aside from Jason Goes To Hell...that was terrible), but if they want to go back and make it actually scary, Part 2 is where to get that inspiration.
Andalusia
10-03-07, 09:58 AM
I'd love to read "Crystal Lake Memories", but I can't find it cheaper than 30 bucks. Phooey.
Giles
10-03-07, 10:05 AM
I'd love to read "Crystal Lake Memories", but I can't find it cheaper than 30 bucks. Phooey.
I'd just say bite the bullet and buy it from Amazon at 31.50, it's worth it, highly recommended!
Drop
10-03-07, 10:20 AM
In terms of Jason being "scary," the Jason of Part 2 was the most effective in my opinion. A normal sized, but homicidally crazed maniacal hillbilly.
Yes, in many ways Part 2 was the scariest Jason. I hope they bring back his little shack, what a great set piece that would make today.
I agree that it seems impossible to make Jason scary, but I'm sure there is a way to do it. I think plenty of kids today haven't seen the movies or have a skewed opinion of the character. How many people actually know Mama Voorhees is the killer in the first film?
This new film presents a great opportunity to demolish Jason's reputation. I think they should atleast try to set a horrific atmosphere and eliminate the Jason centric humor. It would surprise many of the people seeing the film. They should take a risk and actually kill Jason off, and by that I mean don't do a sequel. Or if they do a sequel forget about continuity and just start it with Jason killing people. Or better yet (maybe worse), just make a prequel. It's unreasonable to expect them not to, I'm sure the remake will make money no problem. But there out ways they can make his death seem final.
Giles
10-03-07, 10:37 AM
I agree it's hard to make a slasher film 'scary' but with ample jump scares and some tension (and a good director) a typical hack 'n slash Jason flick that bends the rules would be welcome (and no going out to outer space didn't count - that was just bizarre)- do what 'The Burning' did and have him jump out of nowhere - alot.
DealMan
10-03-07, 03:02 PM
After seeing FvJ in theaters I thought it was OK, but I've since grown to hate it as the worst of the series. I also really despised the Jason from that movie. Still, anything even remotely related to F13th gets me excited, hopefully this will turn out OK.
rennervision
10-03-07, 03:49 PM
They should take a risk and actually kill Jason off, and by that I mean don't do a sequel.
Since a sequel would qualify as the 13th Jason movie, I seriously doubt anyone could pass up making that one.
Seantn
10-03-07, 07:46 PM
They should take a risk and actually kill Jason off, and by that I mean don't do a sequel.
They did that, it was called Part 4: The Final Chapter. But then there was a problem... Part 4 made so much money that they had to make a sequel. Then they sent Jason to Hell...and he STILL came back! If that doesn't say "I can't die!", i'm not sure what does.
No matter what they do, they'll never kill Jason off completely. And if they do, he still won't stay dead.
The only way to make sure Jason stays dead is to have an unprofitable movie, but even with Jason X, the lowest grossing film in the series, they didn't stop. They made FvsJ, and now a remake. Jason will always be around in some way, shape or form. He's not going anywhere. He's just not hitting the screens in the yearly way that he did in the 80's.
nateman
10-04-07, 10:29 AM
Jason will always be around in some way, shape or form. He's not going anywhere. He's just not hitting the screens in the yearly way that he did in the 80's.
Mr. Voorhees has worked his way up to an A-List star; why do you think he was wearing that steel mask in Jason X, he was sick of wearing some sh*tty old hockey mask from the 70’s, even ugly, murderous serial killers need some bling.
Now…
http://members.tripod.com/~spookmaster/jason5.jpg
Where's my 'Caffè e latte' Bitch!
devilshalo
11-14-07, 12:30 AM
Nispel scores a date with next 'Friday'
By Borys Kit
Nov 14, 2007
Marcus Nispel is in final negotiations to direct the revamp of "Friday the 13th" for New Line and Paramount/MTV. Platinum Dunes is producing.
Damian Shannon and Mark Swift wrote the script for the redo, which aims to bring back horror icon Jason, the unstoppable hockey mask-wearing killer.
While Jason made only a brief appearance in the final frames of the first movie in 1980 and didn't even don his famous mask until the third movie, the new movie will focus on Jason -- who will wear the mask and kill -- and keep the famous setting of Crystal Lake.
Michael Bay, Andrew Form and Brad Fuller of Platinum Dunes are producing.
A winter start date is being planned.
"Friday" reunites Nispel with Platinum Dunes, for whom he directed 2003's remake of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre." The director, who began his career in music videos, also helmed "Pathfinder" and USA's telefilm "Frankenstein."
He is repped by CAA and attorney David Weber.
Drop
11-14-07, 09:01 AM
I'm all for Jason being the killer, but Mrs. Voorhees is a large reason why Jason is the way he is. If it was me, I'd basically condense part 1 into a long precredit sequence (but Mrs. Voorhees would only be jailed not killed) and Jason would do the killings for the rest of the film. She'd ultimately be orchestrating the massacre (after release from jail), and Jason would have to kill her. I'd start with sackhead Jason, too.
Don't know how I feel about Marcus Nispel directing.
Goldblum
11-14-07, 09:43 AM
Friday the 13th is no classic picture, so I have no problem with it being remade. But yeah, original movies are far and few between.
nateman
11-14-07, 11:08 AM
Friday the 13th is no classic picture, so I have no problem with it being remade. But yeah, original movies are far and few between.
Is the original Friday the 13th a critical darling, a brilliant film or a masterpiece? No, no its not. But is it a classic? Yes, yes it is.
Remember, classic doesn’t always equal good.
joliom
11-14-07, 03:05 PM
I agree with your thoughts KC! :clap:
As for modern day horror classics, I would put down 'The Descent', '28 Days Later' and 'High Tension' on my list! :D
Those are exactly the ones I'd pick out too, along with some of the better Japanese horror flicks of recent years like Audition, Ringu and Ju-on (even though they've been copycat-ed to death and become so oversaturated that I probably won't be able to stand watching them again for another 10 years). Wrong Turn wasn't bad either, even though it's a highly derivative genre pic. And Cabin Fever was a great quirky horror film that I think will hold-up well as time goes on. And of course, there's the Saw and Hostel franchises which seem to have taken on a life of their own (although I don't personally think of them as modern classics).
joliom
11-14-07, 03:12 PM
Btw, I recently broke away from the continuing Friday series (and my obsessive need to be a completist) and purged all the non-Paramount Fridays from my collection. The official series is now Pts. 1-8 as far as I'm concerned. Everything thereafter just doesn't have the same feel and starts to get overly adventurous and hyper-stylized. I may even take it a step further and cut back to just the first four, which were the only really great ones, imho. I did the same thing with my Halloweens too, capping them at the first 5.
Brack
11-14-07, 03:14 PM
My question is, where the hell was Jason hiding all those years between him drowning and Part 2?
joliom
11-14-07, 03:24 PM
In that old cabin in the woods that they find at the end of Part 2.
The real question is, why wasn't he living with his mother? Did she think he was dead? If so, why wouldn't he make contact with her? Afterall, he would have still been a child when he first survived the drowning, so wouldn't it be natural for him to go back to his mother? He just emerged on the bank of the lake and decided to wander off into the woods and live as a 10-year-old hermit? And if she knew he was still alive and was hiding him in that old cabin in the woods, what does she have to be so pissed off at the counselors for? "You assholes nearly got my retarded son killed - I'm gonna wait 10 years and take revenge on a bunch of unrelated teenage camp counselors!"
Brack
11-14-07, 03:28 PM
Maybe he knew he was a burden to his mom, and decided to let her live a better life without him, but once he found his mother dead, he snapped. That's all I can come up with.
joliom
11-14-07, 04:00 PM
I guess the second one is the most logical. When Jason nearly drowned because of the counselors' negligence, Mrs. Voorhees realized he wasn't safe around people and decided to hide him off in woods "to protect him." Then as the years progressed her psychosis deepened. Eventually she transferred all of her delusions and paranoia onto a new crop of horny teenage counselors, coming to view them as the personification of all her fears and rage at the world at large and decided to destroy them all. After she was killed, Jason found her corpse and was likely irrevocably traumatized. Since his mother was his whole world and the only other human interactions he had had were likely defined by abuse and ridicule, he finally snapped too and commenced his own murderous rampage. Only he lacks any of his Mother's well-honed social skills or intelligence, and suffers from stark physical deformities, so he can never blend in and pretend to be a normal functioning member of society. This limits his effective target range to people he happens to come across in his immediate vacinity, and forces him into a stalk and ambush type of predation. As time goes on and he is more successful in his killing, he begins taking less precautions and hunts with far less apprehension of capture or counter-attack by his intended victims. So he gets bolder and less restrained, killing at will and upping the body count exponentially.
hotdoggie1977
11-15-07, 02:46 PM
The real question is, why wasn't he living with his mother? Did she think he was dead? If so, why wouldn't he make contact with her? Afterall, he would have still been a child when he first survived the drowning, so wouldn't it be natural for him to go back to his mother? He just emerged on the bank of the lake and decided to wander off into the woods and live as a 10-year-old hermit? And if she knew he was still alive and was hiding him in that old cabin in the woods, what does she have to be so pissed off at the counselors for? "You assholes nearly got my retarded son killed - I'm gonna wait 10 years and take revenge on a bunch of unrelated teenage camp counselors!"
Maybe Jason was the smart one in the family. Anyway this is a bad idea, I mean look how Halloween turned out.
DRG
11-15-07, 03:12 PM
My hopes for this remake (since it's going to happen anyway):
1. I hope they don't go overboard in trying to tell Jason's backstory. Extensive origin stories for horror villains are never exciting (Hannibal Rising, Rob Zombie's Halloween, TCM: The Beginning).
2. I hope they don't make Jason into some torture-horror type killer, where he's got them tied up and is doing weird sadistic things to them. Jason's like a hunter, he goes for the quick kill (and later displays his prey like a trophy).
3. I hope they go back to Jason's roots and just have him be an unstoppable psycho, and not some supernatural being or parasite or demon or whatever else.
4. I hope they retain the isolated woods/summer camp feel of the early films. As well as the famous musical cue...
DeltaSigChi4
11-15-07, 03:23 PM
Michael Bay is a cancer to film.
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joliom
11-15-07, 03:52 PM
Bay can produce and Uwe Boll can direct. That should insure a truly awesome cinematic experience for horror fans.
Steve Phillips
11-15-07, 04:21 PM
Keep Uwe Boll far away from Jason Voorhees!
joliom
11-15-07, 08:44 PM
Whatever happened to all the Michael Bay defenders around here? Did Transformers finally make them see the error of their ways, or were they all just banned forever from DVDTalk? It used to be that you couldn't sweat the guy without someone, of shall we say, questionable intelligence, chiming in with a vociferous defense of his work. Usually it involved bragging about how he made Armaggedon and Bad Boys as if that was supposed to be vindicating or something. Now you say Michael Bay is a pus-filled boil on the ass of American cinema, and everyone just nods silently in agreement. I guess we finally turned a corner somewhere...
riotinmyskull
11-15-07, 08:47 PM
there better be a lot of hot girls with big tits getting naked and slashed in this thing.
Brack
11-15-07, 09:11 PM
Whatever happened to all the Michael Bay defenders around here? Did Transformers finally make them see the error of their ways, or were they all just banned forever from DVDTalk? It used to be that you couldn't sweat the guy without someone, of shall we say, questionable intelligence, chiming in with a vociferous defense of his work. Usually it involved bragging about how he made Armaggedon and Bad Boys as if that was supposed to be vindicating or something. Now you say Michael Bay is a pus-filled boil on the ass of American cinema, and everyone just nods silently in agreement. I guess we finally turned a corner somewhere...
I quite enjoyed his last couple of films, The Island and Transformers. They were way better than Bad Boys or Armageddon.
Bandit03
11-16-07, 08:21 AM
I enjoy Bays movies. When I watch one of his films, I dont expect cinematic history to be made; theyre popcorn flicks, and thats all that I expect. Now even with that said, Bay + Friday the 13th = Fail
nateman
11-16-07, 12:27 PM
I enjoy Bays movies. When I watch one of his films, I dont expect cinematic history to be made; theyre popcorn flicks, and thats all that I expect. Now even with that said, Bay + Friday the 13th = Fail
That’s pretty much my feelings and opinions on Bay’s flicks as well.
So far in the Horror genre he’s literally tied in the good to sh*t ratio. The 2003 remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre wasn’t nearly as good as the original, but it was a cut above most sh*tty Hollywood Horror remakes. The 2005 remake of The Amityville Horror wasn’t poetry, but again, wasn’t an unwatchable piece of sh*t, and it kept me entertained.
The Hitcher on the other hand was truly a giant waste of film. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning wasn’t nearly as bad as The Hitcher, and in general it was more bland than bad, but it has so much potential to really show the back story of leatherface. it ended up being another bland “Kill the Teenagers” horror flick.
I think M. Bay + Friday the 13th = sh*t as well.
Seantn
11-16-07, 12:36 PM
So, it has been revealed that they'll show how Jason is able to jump around Crystal Lake unnoticed so much. He has a series of underground tunnels that he uses that allow him to wander around unnoticed
Also, this movie does consider him to be human, not an undead killer.
KillerCannibal
11-16-07, 01:18 PM
^ Is that a fucking joke? I know the guy is good with tools, but he ain't a fucking ditch digger. And as for the second spoiler: WHY? I guess the screenwriters didn't learn from the mistakes Zombie's Halloween made. Fans don't want you fucking with origins. There is a strict set of rules most every F13th has followed, and these developments are already fucking that up.
Seantn
11-16-07, 02:00 PM
No joke. Serious. The story was here:
http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12575
What bothers me is that a series of tunnels under the forest just sounds...stupid.
Seantn
11-16-07, 02:43 PM
Also, the release date is Friday the 13th, February 2009.
KillerCannibal
11-16-07, 02:54 PM
Ah, the perfect date movie for Valentine's Day.
OutRun2
11-17-07, 05:01 AM
I look forward to a scene where Mrs. Voorhees walks away from an explosion towards the camera in slow motion.
OMG I dont know why but this post has me in TEARS! :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl
joliom
11-18-07, 06:39 PM
The sad thing is that if Bay were actually directing instead of producing that shot would be in the movie.
nateman
11-19-07, 11:27 AM
So, it has been revealed that they'll show how Jason is able to jump around Crystal Lake unnoticed so much. He has a series of underground tunnels that he uses that allow him to wander around unnoticed
Also, this movie does consider him to be human, not an undead killer.
Oh boy! This remake is starting to sound like the #1 Comedy of 2009.
Now I do wish Bay was directing instead of producing. If that scene did actually happen and make it into the movie, it would be stuff of legend on the DVD Talk forums.
DRG
11-19-07, 04:17 PM
And as for the second spoiler: WHY? I guess the screenwriters didn't learn from the mistakes Zombie's Halloween made. Fans don't want you fucking with origins. There is a strict set of rules most every F13th has followed, and these developments are already fucking that up.
Well, in the first four movies (five, if you want to be technical) he was pretty much a living, mortal person. Granted he had an extremely unlikely tolerance for injuries but it was never suggested he was actually undead or that there was any supernatural element to the series until part 6. They retroactively tried to come up with a supernatural origin explanation in Jason Goes to Hell, but I always hated it.
But yeah, I hate the tunnel idea. Next thing you know they'll have him running or driving a car.
ChristopherS
11-19-07, 08:33 PM
In that old cabin in the woods that they find at the end of Part 2.
The real question is, why wasn't he living with his mother? Did she think he was dead? If so, why wouldn't he make contact with her? Afterall, he would have still been a child when he first survived the drowning, so wouldn't it be natural for him to go back to his mother? He just emerged on the bank of the lake and decided to wander off into the woods and live as a 10-year-old hermit? And if she knew he was still alive and was hiding him in that old cabin in the woods, what does she have to be so pissed off at the counselors for? "You assholes nearly got my retarded son killed - I'm gonna wait 10 years and take revenge on a bunch of unrelated teenage camp counselors!"
The mom killed the two who weren't watching him (at the start of 1), as for the people 10 years later, she didn't want the camp re-opened, and was just nuts. She thought Jason was dead. In a novelization that does a great job of filling in all the gaps, Jason suffers some damage from his near-drowning, and lives for years in the woods like an animal. He is by the lake and sees his mother for the first time in years as she is killed in the first film.
ChristopherS
11-19-07, 08:37 PM
Also, something similar to that tunnel idea was used in Hell Night, wasn't it?
joliom
11-19-07, 08:47 PM
But yeah, I hate the tunnel idea. Next thing you know they'll have him running or driving a car.
He used to run sometimes in the early Fridays.
Also, something similar to that tunnel idea was used in Hell Night, wasn't it?
And just recently in Vacancy.
joliom
11-19-07, 08:51 PM
The mom killed the two who weren't watching him (at the start of 1), as for the people 10 years later, she didn't want the camp re-opened, and was just nuts. She thought Jason was dead. In a novelization that does a great job of filling in all the gaps, Jason suffers some damage from his near-drowning, and lives for years in the woods like an animal. He is by the lake and sees his mother for the first time in years as she is killed in the first film.
If that's the case then I guess the biggest plot hole for me becomes why, at ten years old, does he survive a drowning and migrate out into the woods? If he's lived his whole life with his mother, why would he suddenly go off on his own? Amnesia?
riotinmyskull
11-20-07, 03:57 AM
Also, something similar to that tunnel idea was used in Hell Night, wasn't it?
also in 'mountaintop motel massacre'
Seantn
11-20-07, 04:11 AM
If that's the case then I guess the biggest plot hole for me becomes why, at ten years old, does he survive a drowning and migrate out into the woods? If he's lived his whole life with his mother, why would he suddenly go off on his own? Amnesia?
This series ain't for you if you're looking for logic.
Part 7 has Jason battling a telekinetic teenager who resurrects her dead father from a lake to destroy Jason and save the day!
nateman
11-20-07, 12:51 PM
This series ain't for you if you're looking for logic.
Part 7 has Jason battling a telekinetic teenager who resurrects her dead father from a lake to destroy Jason and save the day!
Oh, and here I thought part 7 had brilliant social commentary.
joliom
11-20-07, 01:35 PM
This series ain't for you if you're looking for logic.
Part 7 has Jason battling a telekinetic teenager who resurrects her dead father from a lake to destroy Jason and save the day!
:lol: Don't take my musings on the plot too seriously...I was just having some fun trying to connect all the dots.
ChristopherS
11-20-07, 05:11 PM
If that's the case then I guess the biggest plot hole for me becomes why, at ten years old, does he survive a drowning and migrate out into the woods? If he's lived his whole life with his mother, why would he suddenly go off on his own? Amnesia?
The novelizations by Simon Hawke do a great job of filling in all the blanks but the books are hard to find and I haven't read them in years and don't remember the explaination for why Jason wouldn't just return to his mother at the camp. My guess would be he emerged on the other side of the lake, lost and confused on top of already being retarded and suffering some more brain damage from the near-drowning, and it doesn't seem too far fetched to me that he'd just wander stupidly into the woods and fend for himself, maybe waiting for his mother to find him.
I like that the first bunch of F13 movies resisted in giving away much information.
Bandit03
11-28-07, 01:48 PM
Apparently theres a bit of new info that says this will NOT be a remake. As with everything from the net, take this info with a grain of salt.
From Shocktillyoudrop.com (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=3783)
After speaking to a source close to the project who wishes to stay outside of the spotlight (for now), we're striking the former term out of future reports on the film.
"It's not a remake," says our insider. Don't even expect an origin tale - as some production listings around Hollywood are pegging it as. Imagine if there was a story to be told somewhere between parts two and four, just add water (from Camp Crystal Lake, duh), insert a leaner, meaner, faster Jason Voorhees, set to "blend" and you've got the recipe for what Dunes, writers Damian Shannon and Mark Swift and director Marcus Nispel got cookin'.
GoldenJCJ
11-28-07, 09:11 PM
Hollywood's afraid of the word "remake" they prefer "reimagining". ;)
I'd prefer that they DID stay away from an origin story. We already know everything we need to about Jason.
Paul1957
07-28-08, 09:49 AM
Footage from comic com watch it before youtube yanks it
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/13095
Rainet
07-28-08, 10:02 AM
This doesnt look half bad. But it's wait and see with me. Sort of like the best of Friday the 13th part 1-4.
Matthew Ackerly
07-28-08, 10:37 AM
Looks badass.
KillerCannibal
07-28-08, 10:57 AM
That footage gets me fucking pumped. I know that Nispel's TCM remake looked great at first, but it's got little to no replay value anymore. THIS looks killer. That final shot of Jason running full force at that chick on the ground gives me a soft boner. I've been a HUGE fan of F13th for over 15 years, so if anyone should be over this remake it would be me. But I think that the series could use a reboot of sorts. Things got pretty out there with Jaosn X, even though it was a lot of fun, so I look forward to seeing ol' feral sackhead Jason getting back in action. So, for now, F13th 2009 can't come any sooner for me.
NoirFan
08-21-08, 10:13 PM
Official pic from the upcoming film, from Bloody-Disgusting (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/13378):
See, Texas Chainsaw is classic and set a bar high for a remake, and The Hitcher is such an awesome little film that both were all too easy to drop the ball on. With Friday the 13th, what you see is what you get: dumb fun, nothing more. Tits, blood, gore, Jason, drugs and alcohol, that's all you need for a movie like that. I'll definitely see this one.
If only they could stop Near Dark from remake-land.
NoirFan
09-21-08, 07:24 PM
From Bloody-Disgusting (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/13687):We confirmed today that you'lll finally be able to see the trailer for Platinum Dunes, Paramount Pictures and Warner Bros.' Friday the 13th remake on October 24th with prints of Lionsgate's SAW V.
riley_dude
09-21-08, 11:17 PM
The novelizations by Simon Hawke do a great job of filling in all the blanks but the books are hard to find and I haven't read them in years and don't remember the explaination for why Jason wouldn't just return to his mother at the camp. My guess would be he emerged on the other side of the lake, lost and confused on top of already being retarded and suffering some more brain damage from the near-drowning, and it doesn't seem too far fetched to me that he'd just wander stupidly into the woods and fend for himself, maybe waiting for his mother to find him.
I like that the first bunch of F13 movies resisted in giving away much information.
So how did he get the super strength??
Seantn
09-22-08, 12:26 AM
He's crazy, duh! That means he has super strength.
Rypro 525
09-22-08, 04:35 AM
From Bloody-Disgusting (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/13687):
wait, there's a Saw V? and i thought 3 and 4 were terrible.
NoirFan
09-24-08, 05:02 PM
Brief interview (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/13729) with one of the anonymous teens who'll be killed (presumably) in the upcoming remake.
Gunde
09-25-08, 01:31 AM
wait, there's a Saw V? and i thought 3 and 4 were terrible.
Yes there is and I'm telling you now so you won't be so behind next time: there will also be a VI (not official yet, but come on!)
benh911
09-25-08, 04:31 PM
I'm pretty sure VI is already confirmed per se. It's a 6 movie franchise.
NoirFan
09-25-08, 04:58 PM
From Bloody-Disgusting (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/film/701/gallery):
that's some pretty disgusting looking water right there
That said, I hope she's naked under there...
Geddlo
09-25-08, 10:35 PM
I love that picture. Saw it a couple months ago. Its one of those ultimate "oh, shit" type moments.
gmanca
09-25-08, 10:40 PM
that's some pretty disgusting looking water right there
That said, I hope she's naked under there...
It looks like she's swimming in some Hi-C Ecto Cooler.
Zen Peckinpah
09-26-08, 07:32 AM
It looks like she's swimming in some Hi-C Ecto Cooler.
Nice.
KillerCannibal
09-26-08, 10:33 AM
It looks like she's swimming in some Hi-C Ecto Cooler.
Man, you totally just made me want some of that. I had almost forgotten about it. I used to drink it all the time as a kid.
mcfly
09-26-08, 11:15 AM
Man, you totally just made me want some of that. I had almost forgotten about it. I used to drink it all the time as a kid.They still make it. It's called Shoutin' Orange Tangerine (and it is still distributed, regardless of what Wikipedia says - I bought some a couple of months ago).
Oh, and I thought the Saw franchise was confirmed for at LEAST 7 movies.. that's what I heard awhile back.
notkevinbacon
09-26-08, 11:35 AM
Man, you totally just made me want some of that. I had almost forgotten about it. I used to drink it all the time as a kid.
Some friends and I went on a kick with this stuff over the summer. We found a recipe to make it (it just involved mixing some kinds of kool-aid together) and then added a ton of vodka to it. It really tasted like Ecto-Cooler.
I am still holding out hope for this remake. The TCM remake was terrible, but there is something about this that gives me hope and F13 is by far my favorite of the 80s slasher films. It can't be worse than F13:8 or Jason X.
KillerCannibal
09-26-08, 02:55 PM
^ I completely agree with you. TCM, while good upon first viewing, lost A LOT of it's luster and welcome with repeat viewings. Now I find it practically unwatchable. I'm a rabid fan of F13th, have been for over 15 years, but I agree that the quality of the films has decreased as the series went on. I've got friends in the horror community and they've done set visits, seen footage and know the actors in the film. They all assure me that this movie will kick serious ass back into the franchise. It has a definitive ending, but could leave the door open for sequels (I hope).
Fatman
09-26-08, 03:06 PM
I don't know Jason kind of looks like a sissy boy in that pic.
KillerCannibal
09-26-08, 04:38 PM
Say that to his face why dontcha? ;)
NoirFan
09-28-08, 03:39 PM
More pix here (http://www.horrorbid.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=19720#p19720)
New pics look awesome. I'm seriously pumped for this one.
majorjoe23
09-29-08, 12:02 PM
Oh, and I thought the Saw franchise was confirmed for at LEAST 7 movies.. that's what I heard awhile back.
My best is guess is Saw is a whatever-movie-first-loses-money franchise. And maybe even a few direct to DVD after that.
Mr. Cinema
10-04-08, 10:50 AM
That kid looks like the brother of H.W. Plainview.
KillerCannibal
10-17-08, 03:09 PM
Bloody-Disgusting is reporting that Pamela Voorhees and young Jason have both been cut from the film. Since this was confirmed during a test screening there's still a chance they may end up back in the film.
clappj
10-17-08, 04:04 PM
bloody-disgusting is reporting that pamela voorhees and young jason have both been cut from the film.
wtf?
NoirFan
10-17-08, 04:56 PM
Maybe B-D only meant the duo get cut during the film.
KillerCannibal
10-17-08, 07:20 PM
Maybe B-D only meant the duo get cut during the film.
No. I'll spoilerize what I read for those who don't want to, um... be spoiled.
This what I read on the BD forums:
- Jason starts off as sackhead for a little bit, then gets the mask
- Charcters aren't totally disposable/pretty well-acted
- Lots of gratuitous nudity
- He is lean and mean
- Lots of death scenes/evenly spaced out
- Inventive deaths/very bloody
- The ending leaves it wide open for sequels/no TCM-style missing limbs or anything
- Pamela Voorhees is only mentioned/young Jason is not seen
SuckaMC
10-17-08, 11:56 PM
I'm actually glad about them being cut. Rob Zombies' Halloween totally demystified Michael Myers by giving him a crappy childhood, ect. Sometimes its scarier when people are evil for no reason.
Seantn
10-18-08, 12:52 AM
Agreed. They don't need to cram Jason, his mom, and young Jason into a movie. I don't want to see Jason's childhood or his origins. I want to see yet another movie of Jason killing teens for the 12th time.
I know that sounds sarcastic, but it's seriously not! I don't want to see an origin story of Jason as a kid. Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning and RZ's Halloween tried to explain stuff that didn't need to be explained, and I was bored out of my mind by it in both cases. They just flat out sucked. Yes, we have seen Jason kill many groups of teens, but when it's done right it can be fun to watch :)
cranberries fan
10-22-08, 03:43 PM
Bump! for one and only "Friday The 13TH----With the wow-man MICHAEL"i will blow shit-up"BAY.
The only reason I'd be sad to see Jason's mom get cut out of the film was I was really looking forward to seeing Nana Visitor in this.
mcfly
10-23-08, 12:45 PM
I really.. really.. really.. can not wait for this movie.
I wasn't wowed by the teaser, thought it was kind of cheesy, actually.. but that last scene with the girl looked classic Friday.
Matthew Ackerly
10-23-08, 01:15 PM
here's the official teaser and Pamela Voorhees has a VO
<a href="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=45036696">Friday The 13th in HD</a><br/><object width="425px" height="360px" ><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"/><param name="movie" value="http://mediaservices.myspace.com/services/media/embed.aspx/m=45036696,t=1,mt=video"/><embed src="http://mediaservices.myspace.com/services/media/embed.aspx/m=45036696,t=1,mt=video" width="425" height="360" allowFullScreen="true" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"></embed></object>
KillerCannibal
10-23-08, 01:34 PM
Oh yea... good stuff. That teaser just got me uber-pumped once again for this flick. Looks awesome.
Zen Peckinpah
10-23-08, 02:36 PM
Looks decent, hopefully it's not as much "from the director of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" as it's just a super-fun revisiting of the Jason mythology.
It was also very comforting (and awesome) to see the Paramount logo precede it.
Snowmaker
10-23-08, 02:38 PM
Here's YouTube versions of both also, just in case:
That trailer was crap. Almost every shot was a flashlight flaring into the camera. I'm not too broken up about the film being remade, but this trailer didn't do anything for me.
asianxcore
10-23-08, 03:34 PM
Judging by the teaser this looks like it will be a fun remake.
I'm still not too sure of the visual style. It looks way too much like the cinematography from Nispel's remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre".
Good to see that Cunningham is on board though. Is he serving as one of the producers?
scott1598
10-23-08, 03:42 PM
i still miss the Hodder-look of Jason.
Groucho
10-23-08, 03:46 PM
Good to see that Cunningham is on board though. Is he serving as one of the producers?My guess is they through some money at him and gave him a credit, and that's the end of his "involvement".
DJariya
10-24-08, 12:54 AM
So essentially this is a re-make of Friday the 13th Part 1-3 combined right? Since Jason doesn't actually appear with the hockey mask until Part 3.
The trailer looks good. I'll definitely watch this next year.
kilcher
10-24-08, 02:27 AM
That trailer was crap. Almost every shot was a flashlight flaring into the camera. I'm not too broken up about the film being remade, but this trailer didn't do anything for me.
It's a teaser. It's not supposed to give much away.
Mountain Biker
10-24-08, 04:03 PM
A running Jason is much more frightning :thumbsup: Great seeing him back in the woods too.
I'm definitely stoked for this.
mndtrp
10-24-08, 07:14 PM
What does Jason do while there aren't any kids at the lake?
fumanstan
10-24-08, 07:23 PM
So essentially this is a re-make of Friday the 13th Part 1-3 combined right? Since Jason doesn't actually appear with the hockey mask until Part 3.
The trailer looks good. I'll definitely watch this next year.
I'd probably just say its not a remake, but a retelling, such that they're not going through and remaking the movies, just retelling the story of Jason.
GoldenJCJ
10-24-08, 10:21 PM
What does Jason do while there aren't any kids at the lake?
Hikes, fishes, masturbates, enjoys nature...the same thing any of us would do when alone in the woods.
old-boo-radley
10-25-08, 03:56 AM
The flick is definitely going to be a retelling, if not a multi-movie retelling.
KillerCannibal
10-25-08, 11:23 AM
The best way to think of this film is something I read from a poster who had seen the film already: pretend it's a sequel to Part II.
NoirFan
10-30-08, 06:42 PM
On-set report from Bloody-Disgusting (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/interview/517)
DthRdrX
10-30-08, 06:51 PM
The best way to think of this film is something I read from a poster who had seen the film already: pretend it's a sequel to Part II.
I'm actually damn interested to see this movie.
Still, I have a feeling that the new series will be right back to where they left after another sequel or two. Jason Goes to Manhattan and Hell quality.
Yeti4623
11-26-08, 11:50 PM
I wonder if this was shot in Anamorphic 2.35:1? The IMDB says it was, but you never know with them. The trailer has those blue flares all over the place. I understand some non-Anamorphic 2.35:1 movies can fake them, but would they fake them this much? Even the swinging light part in the trailer has the blue streak flares.
NoirFan
12-04-08, 05:10 PM
New poster (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/14545)
Also: You saw some reviews hit the web regarding Marcus Nispel's Friday the 13th, now it looks as if we'll be seeing something completely different when the film hits theaters February 13, 2009. Some pretty sweet news comes in this afternoon as sources tell us that Platinum Dunes shot additional scenes for New Line Cinema's remake, which follows a group of young adults that find themselves going toe-to-toe with the infamous Jason Voorhees (Derek Mears) at a cabin near Camp Crystal Lake. What exactly was shot is unknown, but we can confirm a new (or possibly variant) ending was in fact filmed.
Kicker_of_Elves
12-04-08, 05:55 PM
That's a sweet poster
resinrats
12-04-08, 06:10 PM
Glad it is coming out on a Friday the 13th & not something like Friday the 24th. Doesn't mean I'll see it but with a name like Friday the 13th, there is only one day it shoud come out on.
Artman
12-04-08, 07:16 PM
New trailer looks good... the only one I saw was the original and imo it wasn't that great...so no problems with this remake.
Julie Walker
12-04-08, 08:18 PM
New full trailer just released.
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810022022/trailer
Yeti4623
12-04-08, 09:28 PM
I'll admit that if this were any old ordinary horror trailer, I wouldn't be that impressed. Because it's a return to the early Friday's, albeit a slicker return, the trailer is ass-kicking.
Seantn
12-04-08, 09:33 PM
I loved that they did the "death count" thing, which was what was in the original trailer for the 1980 version, where it counts from 1 all the way up to 13, intercutting with scenes of death/mayhem.
troystiffler
12-04-08, 10:40 PM
Looks pretty good. My only hangup is the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake. I largely enjoyed it (and thought it was worth owning). But I still never got over it's 'slick' look. It made it easier to seperate myself from the horror, which made it harder to experience the terror.
The 13th remake still looks like fun. I'll give it a chance.
JJE-187
12-04-08, 10:54 PM
Looks OK, but after the Halloween remake I am kinda sour on remakes butI will be there opening night probally.
fumanstan
12-04-08, 10:57 PM
I enjoyed that trailer. Looks good, although I'm not a big fan of horror.
Zen Peckinpah
12-04-08, 11:10 PM
Looks fun as hell. Was smiling all 2 1/2 minutes of that trailer.
ruddiger_718
12-05-08, 12:19 AM
I hate how excited I am.
Shilex
12-05-08, 08:13 AM
Yeah, I gotta admit I wasn't expecting much - but that trailer did get me excited. Looks like it will be entertaining.
benh911
12-08-08, 01:20 AM
The trailer looks great, I just hated How they basically showed you all of the deaths in the movie.
GoldenJCJ
12-08-08, 04:10 PM
The trailer looks great, I just hated How they basically showed you all of the deaths in the movie.
That's how the original Friday the 13th trailer was. I guess you just have to figure that it's a given that all (or almost all) of the teens die, it's how they die that's important and I don't think the trailer gives too much of that away. But yeah, I tend to agree with you.
Artman
12-08-08, 05:46 PM
Were their really 13 deaths in the original? To quote Bart Simpson "it's pretty tame by today's standards." Been awhile since I've seen it tho...
Seantn
12-08-08, 07:01 PM
Were their really 13 deaths in the original? To quote Bart Simpson "it's pretty tame by today's standards." Been awhile since I've seen it tho...
There were 10 deaths total in the original, including Mrs. Voorhees.
Is Liam Neeson playing Jason?You left off the website name in your link :)
Zen Peckinpah
12-08-08, 08:20 PM
You left off the website name in your link :)
Dammit! I can't get it to work! Shock Till You Drop has it.
LivingINClip
12-09-08, 09:15 AM
You know, oddly enough it looks appealing. My only complaint is the fact it shares the director of Texas Chainsaw Massacre (which, I did enjoy). The problem is, it shares the exact same look. It's just too stylized and slick.
Have to say, I've been in the mood for some Jason lately and every night before I fall asleep I end up watching one of 'em. My favorite is still the highly under rated Jason X.
NoirFan
12-14-08, 10:31 AM
Dammit! I can't get it to work! Shock Till You Drop has it.
This forum doesn't allow you to link from Shock. New image:
I wonder if this was shot in Anamorphic 2.35:1? The IMDB says it was, but you never know with them. The trailer has those blue flares all over the place. I understand some non-Anamorphic 2.35:1 movies can fake them, but would they fake them this much? Even the swinging light part in the trailer has the blue streak flares.
I finally found out. I recently came across a new Daniel Pearl interview. He said it was filmed in Anamorphic. He also said they were using some type of new cameras.
LiquidSky
01-10-09, 07:19 PM
You know, oddly enough it looks appealing. My only complaint is the fact it shares the director of Texas Chainsaw Massacre (which, I did enjoy). The problem is, it shares the exact same look. It's just too stylized and slick.
Have to say, I've been in the mood for some Jason lately and every night before I fall asleep I end up watching one of 'em. My favorite is still the highly under rated Jason X.
Agreed.
My fave is "The Final Chapter". :)
LosingMyMind
01-11-09, 01:10 AM
This and My Bloody Valentine are the only two remakes I've ever really been excited about. I kind of like the fact that the first three movies are being rolled into one. According to an interview in fangoria, they plan to remake the entire series if this is successful. Why not just make another Friday the 13th between Freddy Vs. Jason and Jason X? These remakes are killing the original series, which is my biggest concern.
Seantn
01-11-09, 04:36 AM
My order of F13 films is... (Best to worst)
Part 4
Part 6
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 7
Part 8
Part X
Part 5 (I really hate this one so much. It just sucks, and not because Jason's not the real killer. The movie is just so poorly made. It's no wonder the director never made another film after this, and he came from a porn background)
Part 9 (JGTH) (This movie is a mess)
Zen Peckinpah
01-11-09, 09:43 AM
For me, it goes:
VI
Final Chapter
3
2
VII
Original (have to rewatch)
Jason Goes to Hell
VIII
Haven't seen Jason X or A New Beginning, but the latter's director also did the VERY awesome 80's exploitation flick Savage Streets with Linda Blair.
Yeti4623
01-11-09, 10:09 AM
For me, it goes:
VI
Final Chapter
3
2
VII
Original (have to rewatch)
Jason Goes to Hell
VIII
Haven't seen Jason X or A New Beginning, but the latter's director also did the VERY awesome 80's exploitation flick Savage Streets with Linda Blair.
Friday the 13th Part V is kind of underrated. If you can overlook the often maligned fact of the movie, I don't get the complaints. So the script isn't that good, but neither were the first four. That's not the point. I love John Shepherd's version of Tommy in this movie. Maybe my favorite Tommy of the series. It has my favorite nude scene of the series. It has a host of fun, goofy characters that pop up in bit parts. I love the strange ending.
Part V is not as creepy as the first four, but I find it more entertaining than 1, 4 and maybe 3.
Torchur317
01-11-09, 10:12 AM
Maybe my favorite Tommy of the series.
Really? I thought Thom Mathews & Corey Feldman were much better....
Newer trailer on Apple.com looks really good..... :)
Drop
01-18-09, 09:40 PM
I'm probably a minority here but I have a strong dislike for Part VI. It wasn't funny, it wasn't clever, and C.J. Graham stinks as Jason in the film (hate Hodder as well). It didn't help how arrogant the director sounded in the Crystal Lake Memories book.
Torchur317
01-18-09, 09:42 PM
You hated C.J. & Kane as Jason???? :eek: :jawdrop:
I'm curious,which Jasons did you like then?
Mountain Biker
01-18-09, 10:02 PM
I'm probably a minority here but I have a strong dislike for Part VI. It wasn't funny, it wasn't clever, and C.J. Graham stinks as Jason in the film (hate Hodder as well).
Couldn't agree with you more. With the arrival of Part VI, the series took a turn for the worse. The ridiculous humor & zombie Jason was an absolute joke.
Julie Walker
01-18-09, 10:46 PM
Couldn't agree with you more. With the arrival of Part VI, the series took a turn for the worse. The ridiculous humor & zombie Jason was an absolute joke.
I wouldn't mind if part 6 was the end of the series. It would have sent it out with a bang in my opinion. I think it's a great film, that is highly entertaining and scary/thrilling...and amusing as well. It gets a big thumbs up and 4 out of 4 star rating from me:)
Yeti4623
01-19-09, 12:25 AM
From everything I know about this movie, it looks solid. It won't be great, but I think it will be quite good for what it is. Nothing about the movie seems all that off. It won't please everyone, but I hope it's like the Halloween 4 of the series: Not great, but solid.
KillerCannibal
01-19-09, 12:09 PM
I could live with it being the Halloween 4 of the F13th series. As long as it isn't the Halloween 5, 6, 8 or remake I'm fine.
KillerCannibal
02-02-09, 11:06 AM
Well, my friend saw it on Friday (I was invited to the screening but couldn't make it) and he said it's ok, nothing special. We generally agree on most horror films, so it's kind of a bummer. I hope my reaction differs when I check it out, but when he told me the problems he had with the film I could see myself going either way. Guess I'll find out in 2 weeks.
mcfly
02-02-09, 07:22 PM
I'm not going in with this as the second coming of Jason.. I think it'll be fun to see the original character on screen again. I'm hoping to at least have fun with it.
Drop
02-03-09, 08:21 AM
You hated C.J. & Kane as Jason???? :eek: :jawdrop:
I'm curious,which Jasons did you like then?
Ted White (Final Chapter) was the last good Jason. I could take him seriously. I also like Part 2 Jason (Warrington Gillette/Steve Dash). The crazy hillbilly had some good scares in him, more believeable than the other ones too.
The big hulking guys are too ridiculous, and didn't help that Jason was a zombie. There was nothing there that was interesting, they were all interchangeable.
I'm excited they went with someone who can move for the remake.
J. Farley
02-04-09, 07:16 AM
A New Beginning is actually my favorite of the series, and my personal pick for creepiest of the lot as well. There's just something about the atmosphere in that film... I think the series really hit it's stride with Part 3. The three films spanning from the third to the fifth are the ones I go back to most often. I'm another one who didn't care for Part VI at all, and I agree that it started the downward spiral of the franchise. That said, I will admit to liking Jason X quite a bit. It's a cheesy delight. Part VIII is the absolute bottom of the barrel.
Anyway, my ranking of the series:
A New Beginning
The Final Chapter
Part 3
Friday the 13th
Jason X
Part VII
Part 2
JGTH
Part VI
Freddy vs. Jason
Part VIII
KillerCannibal
02-04-09, 12:04 PM
I got passes for a screening on Feb 10th at 8:13pm (ooohhhh... ominous!). Report to follow.
Bluelitespecial
02-08-09, 10:25 AM
I got my pass to an advanced 9:30pm showing tomorrow night in Kansas City, I hope its good.
^^^is Jason being played by a current Hollywood starlet??? the machete looks thicker than he does.
scott1598
02-08-09, 11:53 AM
I got passes for a screening on Feb 10th at 8:13pm (ooohhhh... ominous!). Report to follow.
as opposed to seeing it on Friday the 13th :)
troystiffler
02-08-09, 12:53 PM
^^^is Jason being played by a current Hollywood starlet??? the machete looks thicker than he does.
Well, he probably doesn't eat much. We never see him to go the local pub or Panda Express. And he does seem to be getting a lot of aerobic exercise, chasing down and murderin' teens (who probably deserve it ... we'll see).
Michael Bay is actually an extremely slim guy. That's who I thought of when I saw the first new Jason pics. Bay looks fit. But he has that 1950's slim look to him.
I agree about the 'slick' look. I would describe it as 'slick made to look grimey'. Everything's going to be dirty; there's going to be vasoline and mud all over the place. But people just like to make good looking movies nowadays. You buy the proper film stock and efficently shoot and get your colors right and everything. The days of some poor guys out making horror movies, with shitt equipment, are dwindling. If they do go for that look - that's what they do - 'go for that look'. Everything's so self-consious.
Still looks good though. The TCM remake worked. A few overly-stylized shots were distracting (such as the pull-back that goes through the hole in the girls head). The Dawn of the Dead remake really worked for me (I think it's on par with the original). So I stay interested in the new 13th.
scott1598
02-08-09, 01:50 PM
Well, he probably doesn't eat much. We never see him to go the local pub or Panda Express. And he does seem to be getting a lot of aerobic exercise, chasing down and murderin' teens (who probably deserve it ... we'll see).
Michael Bay is actually an extremely slim guy. That's who I thought of when I saw the first new Jason pics. Bay looks fit. But he has that 1950's slim look to him.
I agree about the 'slick' look. I would describe it as 'slick made to look grimey'. Everything's going to be dirty; there's going to be vasoline and mud all over the place. But people just like to make good looking movies nowadays. You buy the proper film stock and efficently shoot and get your colors right and everything. The days of some poor guys out making horror movies, with shitt equipment, are dwindling. If they do go for that look - that's what they do - 'go for that look'. Everything's so self-consious.
Still looks good though. The TCM remake worked. A few overly-stylized shots were distracting (such as the pull-back that goes through the hole in the girls head). The Dawn of the Dead remake really worked for me (I think it's on par with the original). So I stay interested in the new 13th.
yeah, i guess after seeing Kane Hodder's depiction, anyone would look emaciated. i'm gonna see this regardless. i am running through most of the series to gear up so should be appropriate to cap it off with the remake. slick or not should make for fun night out.