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Aphex Twin
07-26-07, 01:17 AM
I am fascinated by this show. Anyone else watch it?

What I find awesome:

1. They'll talk and talk and talk, but when a amateur is in a hand, they'll get all quiet for that hand. You can tell the players who aren't in the hand know exactly what the amateur has. When the hand is over, they want to comment on how badly the amateur played the hand.

2. What the hell are the moms and sig. others doing there? They have millions of dollars on the table. The stress must be high enough as it is, do they really want to have to worry about what their moms would think when they lose a hand?

3. Some players, like Sammy Farha play a hell of a lot of hands and see so many flops. They seem to play ace-rag a lot and get away with it a few times. Whenever I play ace-rag I seem to regret it 95% of the time.

El Scorcho
07-26-07, 01:52 AM
I've watched every episode of this. They're starting to do a better job of mixing the internet high stakes studs with the casino high stakes studs.

Really good show, hope they keep it around. Season 4 was taped recently with these guys:

Seat 1: Antonio Esfandiari
Seat 2: Sam Farha
Seat 3: David Benyamine
Seat 4: Patrik Antonius
Seat 5: Guy Laliberté
Seat 6: Jamie Gold
Seat 7: Doyle Brunson
Seat 8: Barry Greenstein

Wait List #1: Daniel Negreanu

As well with a bunch of others.

Article about it: http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/archives/cheser01.htm

Aphex Twin
07-26-07, 01:59 AM
I forgot to mention Jamie Gold in my first post. I loved it when he was totally pwned by Doyle Brunson. He acted arrogant as hell in the WSOP, but when he was at that table he looked shell shocked.

DVD Josh
07-26-07, 09:59 AM
I forgot to mention Jamie Gold in my first post. I loved it when he was totally pwned by Doyle Brunson. He acted arrogant as hell in the WSOP, but when he was at that table he looked shell shocked.

Jamie Gold's luck far and away outweighs his poker talent.

Jeremy517
07-26-07, 12:27 PM
I think this is basically the only watchable poker show on TV. I can't really watch tournaments on TV any more.

El Scorcho
07-26-07, 01:53 PM
You mean you don't like the WPT final tables where the blinds go up every 30 seconds?

Aphex Twin
07-26-07, 02:13 PM
With a $500,000 buy-in table, I'd like to see:

Howard Lederer
Phil Ivey
Phill Hellmuth
Doyle Brunson
John Juanda
Chip Reese
Dan Harrington
TJ Coultier
Daniel Negreanu

Now that would be awesome to watch.

El Scorcho
07-26-07, 02:15 PM
The only way Cloutier's getting $500k for that table is if someone stakes him $10k and he runs it up to $500k on the craps table.

And I don't think I"ve ever heard of Harrington playing a cash game.

Aphex Twin
07-26-07, 02:24 PM
The only way Cloutier's getting $500k for that table is if someone stakes him $10k and he runs it up to $500k on the craps table.

And I don't think I"ve ever heard of Harrington playing a cash game.

You're right. They're pretty much tournament players, but it would be nice to have a mix of new and old and listen to what kind of conversations would take place.

das Monkey
07-26-07, 03:45 PM
I think this is basically the only watchable poker show on TV. I can't really watch tournaments on TV any more.
Agreed. I've been patiently waiting for Season 4 to start. Have they dropped that obnoxious in-game text-messaging crawl yet? That makes the show nearly unwatchable.

das

Phod
07-26-07, 07:43 PM
Harrington played on that Cash Game Poker that aired on WGN and probably other stations. It had Chad Brown as one of the announcers.

Bill Geiger
08-04-07, 09:35 PM
I watch this, WPT and Poker After Dark.

Best episode I watched on High Stakes was when Mike M started messing around with Antonio during a big hand and basically Antonio told him to shut the fuck up. Mike later apologized.

Best table I watched on Poker After Dark included:

Phil Helmuth, Doyle Brunson, Antonio Esfandiari, Eric Siedel, Phil Laak & Jennifer Harman.

And the one that just replayed this week:

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I have this saved on my DVR!

Aphex Twin
08-05-07, 02:24 AM
Hmmm..how does not re-raising before the flop indicate pocket kings?

atari2600
08-06-07, 01:27 AM
Agreed. I've been patiently waiting for Season 4 to start. Have they dropped that obnoxious in-game text-messaging crawl yet? That makes the show nearly unwatchable.

das

seriously - wtf is up with that stupid text message game they put on there? who actually plays that? it sucks. get rid of it GSN!

atari2600
08-06-07, 01:32 AM
speaking of stupidly putting a guy on pocket KK.

did anyone see the recent episode of WPT on travel channel? some amateur (raj patel?) is cheap leader and has something like JX. a guy raises with 55 and he calls. board is KJ10.

check, check. turn is another 10. check, check. river is a J giving him jacks full. he checks, the other guy bets 300,000 into a pot of about 500,000.

he simply calls justifying it with "he could have had KK!"

wow no shit. you didnt have the stone cold nuts so you dont raise! yeah great logic. only raise under those circumstances. idiot.

...and speaking of the absolute nuts, there is much smaller poker show on tv here in socal called the pechenga celebrity poker challenge (pechenga is a local indian casino). on the first hand the only lady at the table has a suited king (hearts). the turn brings her 3 hearts giving her the nut flush since the ace of hearts was the turn and the board never paired. she folded on the river to a bet from a guy holding an ace (so he only had a pair of aces). repeat: she folded the absolute nuts. phil gordon (commentator/host) almost fainted. he was so pissed but you could tell he was controlling it because it was on tv.

why even play if you dont know the basic rules? whats the freaking point?!

atari2600
08-06-07, 01:36 AM
I watch this, WPT and Poker After Dark.

Best episode I watched on High Stakes was when Mike M started messing around with Antonio during a big hand and basically Antonio told him to shut the fuck up. Mike later apologized.

Best table I watched on Poker After Dark included:

Phil Helmuth, Doyle Brunson, Antonio Esfandiari, Eric Siedel, Phil Laak & Jennifer Harman.

And the one that just replayed this week:

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I have this saved on my DVR!

:lol: i cant get over phil ivey and eric lindgrens reactions. they wanted to laugh so badly and kick her off hte table for sucking at poker so bad.

awesome reactions.

even if you did put him on KK, how can you still put him on that hand after the river? how can you not bet that? shes an idiot.

El Scorcho
08-06-07, 04:40 PM
speaking of stupidly putting a guy on pocket KK.

did anyone see the recent episode of WPT on travel channel? some amateur (raj patel?) is cheap leader and has something like JX. a guy raises with 55 and he calls. board is KJ10.

check, check. turn is another 10. check, check. river is a J giving him jacks full. he checks, the other guy bets 300,000 into a pot of about 500,000.

he simply calls justifying it with "he could have had KK!"

wow no shit. you didnt have the stone cold nuts so you dont raise! yeah great logic. only raise under those circumstances. idiot.

I wholeheartedly disagree here. I saw the episode live and thought it was the right play. There's 0 value in a raise. None. What sort of hand is going to call a raise on a KJTTJ board? A king would have made its presence known earlier so that's out. Ace high won't call it. AQ certainly won't. The only feasible hand that could call a raise that wouldn't have been bet previously is KK. That's it. No other hand. Thus, zero value in raising. Plus he gets the added bonus of seeing what the other person was preflop raising with and betting that river with.


...and speaking of the absolute nuts, there is much smaller poker show on tv here in socal called the pechenga celebrity poker challenge (pechenga is a local indian casino). on the first hand the only lady at the table has a suited king (hearts). the turn brings her 3 hearts giving her the nut flush since the ace of hearts was the turn and the board never paired. she folded on the river to a bet from a guy holding an ace (so he only had a pair of aces). repeat: she folded the absolute nuts. phil gordon (commentator/host) almost fainted. he was so pissed but you could tell he was controlling it because it was on tv.

why even play if you dont know the basic rules? whats the freaking point?!

It's a celebrity thing. Face time for TV. Who gives a shit if they know the rules?

atari2600
08-06-07, 05:24 PM
I wholeheartedly disagree here. I saw the episode live and thought it was the right play. There's 0 value in a raise. None. What sort of hand is going to call a raise on a KJTTJ board? A king would have made its presence known earlier so that's out. Ace high won't call it. AQ certainly won't. The only feasible hand that could call a raise that wouldn't have been bet previously is KK. That's it. No other hand. Thus, zero value in raising. Plus he gets the added bonus of seeing what the other person was preflop raising with and betting that river with.

so what? the chances he had KK was so small anyways. a king or a ten might have gotten him paid off. the guy just didnt know what he was doing (based on his previous play and his justification of that play). he didnt think it out like that as he instacalled. not a good player IMO.



It's a celebrity thing. Face time for TV. Who gives a shit if they know the rules?

yeah, i guess asking to know the basic rules of a game they want to play is asking too much. im not saying she needs to learn the fine details and all the strategy (check raising, smooth calling, position raise, or anything even to those levels) but folding the best hand? stupid no matter how you look at it.

El Scorcho
08-06-07, 07:12 PM
A lone king or ten would have made themselves known prior to the river because of how draw heavy the board was. Furthermore, there's no way a lone king or ten is going to pay off a raise with that board.

The only hands that call that raise are the ones that are going to re-pop you all in. KK, TT, and KJ. And there'd be no reason, given the action, to even think about KJ since he did nothing to protect his hand if he had it. Thus, no value in a raise. By raising you'll only fold hands that you beat and give hands that kick your ass a chance to punish you.

And believe it or not, the action of the guy who had 55 throughout the entire hand is exactly identical to how a tricky player will play KK or even TT. Flop a monster and check it twice to let an opponent catch up to a hand that they won't be able to lay down.

NotThatGuy
08-06-07, 09:05 PM
I forgot to mention Jamie Gold in my first post. I loved it when he was totally pwned by Doyle Brunson. He acted arrogant as hell in the WSOP, but when he was at that table he looked shell shocked.
JG is a prick, but he is entertaining. Dave N. can be a dick too, but at least he is a bit less of an ass about it. Phil. H still probably takes the cake...but I haven't seen any of them f' with Brunson. Him and Jesus are two of my fav. guys to watch for pure poker playing.

-p

atari2600
08-07-07, 01:23 AM
A lone king or ten would have made themselves known prior to the river because of how draw heavy the board was. Furthermore, there's no way a lone king or ten is going to pay off a raise with that board.

The only hands that call that raise are the ones that are going to re-pop you all in. KK, TT, and KJ. And there'd be no reason, given the action, to even think about KJ since he did nothing to protect his hand if he had it. Thus, no value in a raise. By raising you'll only fold hands that you beat and give hands that kick your ass a chance to punish you.

And believe it or not, the action of the guy who had 55 throughout the entire hand is exactly identical to how a tricky player will play KK or even TT. Flop a monster and check it twice to let an opponent catch up to a hand that they won't be able to lay down.

i can see your side to this although i still bet that nearly everytime. but i guarantee the guy who won that pot didnt know ANY of this nor even considered it.

Bill Geiger
08-19-07, 11:49 PM
Really sick!

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Jeremy517
08-20-07, 12:44 AM
It is a cooler, not a bad beat. Hansen got 10% of his money in as a huge dog, but 90% in as a huge favorite.

El Scorcho
08-22-07, 04:29 PM
It is a cooler, not a bad beat. Hansen got 10% of his money in as a huge dog, but 90% in as a huge favorite.

Eh, I consider it a bad beat. Both players were going to the felt as long as a 7 or 8 didn't fall on the turn or river. When the money went in is kind of irrelevant on a set over set situation.

In other news:

HIGH STAKES POKER SEASON IV PREMIERES ON GSN
MONDAY, AUGUST 27 AT 9 PM

The highly anticipated fourth season of HIGH STAKES POKER (“HSP”), the only “cash game of poker” on television, premieres on Monday, August 27 at 9 PM ET/8 PM CT on GSN. This season features the richest table and more episodes than ever with 17 action packed shows.

HSP IV leads off once again with poker superstars playing with their own money as they buy-in for $100,000 or more. The premiere episode features poker pros Antonio Esfandiari, Phil Laak, Todd Brunson and Mike “The Mouth” Matusow. The newcomers on the premiere episode include Brian Brandon from Chicago, Antonio Salorio from Florida, and poker pro Haralabos Voulgaris from Los Angeles.

The eight player table wouldn’t be complete without Phil Hellmuth, the top WSOP winner of all-time. Hellmuth returns to HIGH STAKES POKER after a two season hiatus and looks to improve upon his results from the first season as he plays with the top cash game players on HSP IV.

HSP IV increases the minimum buy-in to $500,000 on Monday, Nov. 5 to make this season the richest ever on GSN. There will be over $5,000,000 on the table this season.

As always the top players will be seen on HIGH STAKES POKER IV. The line-up includes Patrik Antonius, David Benyamine, Doyle Brunson, Eli Elezra, Sam Farha, Jamie Gold, Barry Greenstein, Jennifer Harman and Daniel Negreanu, as well as newcomers Brandon Adams, Mike Baxter, Phil Galfond, Guy Laliberte and Bob Safai.

Gabe Kaplan and AJ Benza return to call all the action on HSP IV. New episodes of HSP IV are on Monday nights at 9 PM with encore showings on Thursday nights at 9 PM and Wednesday nights at 2 AM.

atari2600
08-22-07, 06:20 PM
nice - I love HSP! raising the minimum to half a mill will make it even better.

Bill Geiger
08-28-07, 01:49 PM
I watched last night's episode and Matasow layed down Kings (...i think sixes come on the flop and turn I believe) to Helmuth's 7/2 nothing. :lol: Great stuff!

Mavis
08-28-07, 03:22 PM
That was especially good since they had instituted a rule where if anyone wins with 7 2 off they get $500 from each player. And, of course, Matasow's immediate reaction that he "knew" that helmuth had 7 2 off! What a moron...

El Scorcho
08-29-07, 01:25 AM
BTW for those that don't get the game show network, all episodes are available almost immediately on pokertube.com

atari2600
08-30-07, 12:46 PM
I watched last night's episode and Matasow layed down Kings (...i think sixes come on the flop and turn I believe) to Helmuth's 7/2 nothing. :lol: Great stuff!

i was praying for him to lay it down. i wanted to see both hellmuth and matasows reactions. that was the best hand of the night.

i feel bad for the other guy who tried to buy a pot with 2/7 only to go up against quad Ks. pretty sure he was never laying those down.

Jeremy517
08-30-07, 01:17 PM
Nothing like losing $150k or more while trying to win a $3500 side bet.

El Scorcho
08-30-07, 01:31 PM
From 2+2, The Jaguar story that was brought up but not discussed on the show by Harabalos:

If you think this hand is bad you are in for a real treat later on! I play much worse later on. As an aside how are you so certain it was a blocking bet.

The Jaguar story very quickly goes like this;

We were renting a car at Hertz and the guy kept on trying to sell me the Damage waiver, I declined stating that my CC covered it, he went on and about how he was the manager of the Hertz and it wouldn't cover this particular car because it was a luxury car. I said okay thats fine, I still don't want the damage waiver.

He basically wasn't taking no for an answer telling us what a smart move it was getting the damage waiver blah blah blah, it must have went on for like 15 mins I had had enough I looked over at the other rental agencies and they all had a line so I resigned myself to getting the damage waiver and getting out of the airport.

The day I was returning the car I saw the manager dude outside in the lot and for whatever reason I decided to scrape the entire side of the car along a stone pillar while waving hello. I realize that the damage didn't didn't come out of his pocket, but I just couldn't resist. As I exited the car and signed the return receipt I told him that he was right the Damage waiver was the nuts and I was glad he talked me into it.

I can't rent from hertz anymore.

Haralabos

Quake1028
08-30-07, 03:18 PM
He's a fucking douchebag.

actyper
08-31-07, 11:25 AM
he may be a douche, but thats so awesome.

This episode may have been one of my favourite episodes to date.

I have never liked Todd Brunson, and I still don't like him. Hope he doesn't appear on the show anymore.

atari2600
08-31-07, 10:48 PM
yeah. todd brunson is boring. and he wont straddle.

what would be your perfect GSN high stakes poker table (9 guys)? i know for sure id have hellmuth, antonio esfandiari, matasow, laak, ivey, negraneu, doyle brunson, farha and probably eli elezra...theres probably at least 2-3 other guys id love to see at the table that im forgetting.

Aphex Twin
08-31-07, 11:51 PM
what would be your perfect GSN high stakes poker table (9 guys)? i know for sure id have hellmuth, antonio esfandiari, matasow, laak, ivey, negraneu, doyle brunson, farha and probably eli elezra...theres probably at least 2-3 other guys id love to see at the table that im forgetting.

As of today:

Howard Lederer
Phil Ivey
Phill Hellmuth
Doyle Brunson
Gus Hansen
Phil Laak
Johnny Chan
Daniel Negreanu
Jennifer Harmon

I really like Phil Gordon, but don't think he can hang in this game

atari2600
09-01-07, 06:09 PM
hansen is a good one i forgot. i also like the way the canadian guy (brian townsend?) plays.

Aphex Twin
11-23-07, 06:00 PM
Watching Jamie Gold on High Stakes Poker is brutal. The guy is way out of his league in this game. Did you guys see that AA vs KK hand yet? He was like some chump amatuer thinking pocket kings are the nuts in every single situation. To top it off, his conversational skills are super annoying.

Also, I am kind of disappointed in watching Todd Brunson on this show. He's made a few puzzling moves, but they did pay off luckily for him.

Deftones
11-23-07, 06:22 PM
Watching Jamie Gold on High Stakes Poker is brutal. The guy is way out of his league in this game. Did you guys see that AA vs KK hand yet? He was like some chump amatuer thinking pocket kings are the nuts in every single situation. To top it off, his conversational skills are super annoying.

Also, I am kind of disappointed in watching Todd Brunson on this show. He's made a few puzzling moves, but they did pay off luckily for him.

While I'm inclined to agree with this, he's good at one thing. He confuses the fuck out of people with his talking. Case in point on the flop with his Kings and Farha's Aces, there's no way in the world Farha shouldn't have pushed all in at that point. I don't think Gold does it intentionally, though. He's just a moron that happens to get lucky with his table talk.

Jeremy517
11-24-07, 02:01 AM
That hand was so annoying. Gold wouldn't shut up, it took up a third of the show, and both guys played it absolutely horribly. The only redeeming part was Doyle's comment about his dad coming back from the dead and beating him up if Doyle was ever a loser in that game.

Aphex Twin
11-24-07, 08:24 AM
Yeah...the way Gold went on and on the way he did....was he on cocaine?

El Scorcho
11-24-07, 02:07 PM
That hand would have been the greatest of all time had he turned over TT or laughably, AT.

Aphex Twin
11-28-07, 09:46 PM
That hand would have been the greatest of all time had he turned over TT or laughably, AT.

Speaking of AT, that mid ace vs weak ace hand between Doyle and Laliberte was so insane. Doyle reraises Laliberte's ~$200,000 raise with just aces with a ten kicker. Anyone else besides Doyle Brunson making that move and I would have thought they were totally crazy.

Thrush
11-29-07, 01:21 AM
Speaking of AT, that mid ace vs weak ace hand between Doyle and Laliberte was so insane. Doyle reraises Laliberte's ~$200,000 raise with just aces with a ten kicker. Anyone else besides Doyle Brunson making that move and I would have thought they were totally crazy.

He also picked up a diamond nut draw on the turn.

Aphex Twin
12-19-07, 06:42 AM
I wish we had a better last episode. The final show of the season was probably its worst.

atari2600
12-19-07, 02:55 PM
agreed - sucks we have to wait who knows how long til next season. i love HSP.

actyper
12-20-07, 12:36 PM
I think this season had either classic episodes or totally garbage episodes. I hate deals, prop bets, running it x times, soft play, etc.

Aphex Twin
09-09-08, 07:49 PM
Man, I miss this show. Anyone hear anything?

actyper
09-09-08, 07:56 PM
Jan/Feb 09. Will have Omaha etc..

atari2600
09-11-08, 02:10 PM
awesome. cant wait for it to come back.

Red Dog
09-11-08, 02:11 PM
Jan/Feb 09. Will have Omaha etc..

That's cool. :thumbsup:

Jeremy517
09-11-08, 03:31 PM
They will now be showing every hand, whereas before they only showed 60%-70% of hands.

atari2600
09-12-08, 11:56 AM
They will now be showing every hand, whereas before they only showed 60%-70% of hands.

even better! they could get so many episodes out of just one sitting. i am surprised to hear that they showed 2/3 of all hands the last time it was on. would have guessed less than half.

El Scorcho
09-12-08, 01:04 PM
I don't really care to see all the hands. Unless there's hands that are relevant to the texture of the game itself (i.e. someone's on tilt or popping 8 hands in a row preflop or whatever), I really don't care to see early position raise and everyone folds.

Adrian_Monk
09-16-08, 12:00 PM
I think it becomes much more interesting to see every hand as opposed to simply the more exciting hands. Viewers can get a better idea of exactly how each of the players are playing. We'll be able to get a better idea of how certain players establish a certain image and how they try to exploit their apparent image. Furthermore, we'd be able to more accurately evaluate and critique the play of the individuals with knowledge of all the hands.

actyper
09-16-08, 12:12 PM
HSP is not meant for strategy lessons, its entertainment. Unraked hands are boring, standard plays are boring. Some of those european poker shows show every hand, and its dry as hell.

El Scorcho
09-16-08, 12:37 PM
HSP is not meant for strategy lessons, its entertainment. Unraked hands are boring, standard plays are boring. Some of those european poker shows show every hand, and its dry as hell.

this this this this

I think most people advocating "show every hand" TV poker have never actually seen "show every hand" TV poker before.

For instance, I watched the entire main event final table live the last 2 years. You don't see hole cards or anything, but you do see every single hand. I don't think most realize how boring the game is when it goes EP raises to 720,000, Jerry Yang reraises to 10.5 million, EP folds.

Adrian_Monk
09-16-08, 12:58 PM
HSP is not meant for strategy lessons, its entertainment. Unraked hands are boring, standard plays are boring. Some of those european poker shows show every hand, and its dry as hell.

I agree with you completely for the mainstream viewer. In fact, more entertaining than any of the play is the banter between the players. Clearly showing every hand would not be ideal for the show and it's ratings... I was simply stating what I would prefer to watch for myself.

atari2600
09-16-08, 01:22 PM
I agree with you completely for the mainstream viewer. In fact, more entertaining than any of the play is the banter between the players. Clearly showing every hand would not be ideal for the show and it's ratings... I was simply stating what I would prefer to watch for myself.

exactly. with HSP often its more than the cards... i like watching the players too.

El Scorcho
09-16-08, 02:39 PM
Last night GSN showed the episode from one of the early seasons of Freddy Deeb unnecessarily blowing up at the table for being jokingly accused of ratholing chips. That's the kind of stuff that makes the episode great.

Adrian_Monk
09-16-08, 02:46 PM
Haha. I remember that episode... Certainly a classic.

atari2600
09-16-08, 04:41 PM
any news of which past and new players will be on?

Bill Geiger
09-30-08, 09:09 PM
The Good....

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The Bad...

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atari2600
01-02-09, 12:25 AM
anyone know the exact dates when these episodes will air?

Jeremy517
01-14-09, 06:54 PM
anyone know the exact dates when these episodes will air?

March 1st. Filming just recently finished.

Starting lineups (subs come in later. Also, the order they air the shows might be different):

Day one:

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Left to right, back to front: Tom "Durrrr" Dwan, Phil Laak, David Peat, Mike Baxter, Dario Minieri, Eli Elezra, Doyle Brunson, Alan Meltzer

Day two:

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Left to right, back to front: Nick Cassavetes, Phil Laak, Howard Lederer, Sam Simon, Daniel Negreanu, Joe Hachem, Patrik Antonius, Antonio Esfandiari

Day three:

<img src="http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w300/Kevmath/GSNHSP512211.jpg">

Left to right, back to front: Daniel Negreanu, Eli Elezra, David Benyamine, Peter Eastgate, Ilari "Ziigmund" Sahamies, Tom "Durrrr" Dawn, Doyle Brunson, Barry Greenstein

Jeremy517
01-14-09, 06:58 PM
Showing every hand might be bad for most poker shows (although I like it), but not for HSP. There is a lot of good banter at the table, and I'm pretty sure that walks are relatively rare.

Another change for this year: All holecards will be shown, even if the player folds preflop (http://pokerontv.blogspot.com/2008/08/high-stakes-poker-season-five-plans.html)

El Scorcho
01-14-09, 07:15 PM
1) I can't stand to look at Dario. Ugh.

2) I hope Ziigmund (Ilari in Day 3) has some epic rants on HSP like he does online

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/ziig-blow-ups-chat-298095/

Aphex Twin
04-10-09, 12:26 AM
Is this first episode of the season airing on Sunday?

Jeremy517
04-10-09, 01:29 AM
Is this first episode of the season airing on Sunday?

Seventh episode. You missed the best lineup of the three days, and there were a number of really entertaining hands.

GSN (eventually) puts all the shows on youtube though. (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4E9AD0A45027D545)

atari2600
04-11-09, 10:05 PM
trying to avoid all spoilers so i quickly scrolled to the bottom w/o reading any posts, but is there any place i can watch all the episodes of HSP from this most recent season online? (again preferably without spoilers anywhere)

thanks.

(and if someone could PM me any good HSP links that would be much appreciated)

The Dude
04-11-09, 10:28 PM
youtube has them, search for gsnvideos. They post them each week a day or so after the episode has aired. Also see post #68.

atari2600
04-13-09, 01:56 AM
youtube has them, search for gsnvideos. They post them each week a day or so after the episode has aired. Also see post #68.

thanks - not to be picky or anything (well actually yes, i am trying to be) are they labeled by episode # because i want to watch them in order. really trying hard to avoid spoilers. thanks again.

Deftones
04-13-09, 11:43 AM
That AA vs KQs hand between Barry and Dwan was ridiculous. Dwan's payback for Barry hitting that 9 on the J9 hand vs. Dwan's aces in an earlier episode.

Aphex Twin
05-20-09, 10:56 PM
1) I can't stand to look at Dario. Ugh.


I've only seen Dario play when he's had something, so I'm not sure what this is, but does he ALWAYS have a big grin and scrunch his face when he's about to bet? Is that a tell or does he consistently do this? Doesn't seem too "professional" to me, but hey, he's earned a lot in his career so who am I to say?

I love watching Durr play. The guy is nuts at the table. I heard he won about $20 million playing online poker too.

Deftones
05-21-09, 12:05 AM
dario is freaky, but so is that meltzer. i call him t-rex because he's big and fat, but he's got small, short, stubby arms. he can't even reach across to push his cards or chips in during a hand.

Thrush
05-21-09, 12:20 AM
dario is freaky, but so is that meltzer. i call him t-rex because he's big and fat, but he's got small, short, stubby arms. he can't even reach across to push his cards or chips in during a hand.


He reminds me of the penguin from Batman Returns.

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5174/penguin1burtonartciel.jpg

Aphex Twin
05-21-09, 04:05 PM
I kind of don't like any of the amateurs they get on this show. Make it interesting and put in Tobey Maguire or Ben Afleck or Shannon Elizabeth (although I don't want to see her cry). I don't like watching Silent Mike or the Simpsons guy or the film director guy or the obese dude play. I did enjoy Cirque play though.

Thrush
05-26-09, 02:43 AM
The Penguin got his ass handed to him on that last hand. Good season though, seemed like it went by awfully fast. I think Viffer impressed me the most with his play out of everyone.

Aphex Twin
05-26-09, 01:17 PM
The Penguin got his ass handed to him on that last hand. Good season though, seemed like it went by awfully fast. I think Viffer impressed me the most with his play out of everyone.

Viffer is good. He doesn't look or act like an intelligent-type player like Lederer or Greenstein, but he made some smart plays.

I can't believe Meltzer made that call with all that money on the line. There were very few hands he could have beat. He let himself get setup by Durr. I don't know if there would be any pro that would have made the call. I guess he either fell in love with his kings or didn't want to get bullied. Excellent bet by Durr.

Aphex Twin
05-26-09, 06:37 PM
What would you guys see for next season? I'd like them to have more episodes. No reason why they can't have 20-30 episodes a season. They can do this by just filming them playing poker and not having any commentary (although I love Kaplan...best commentator in poker) and just doing the editing...how much could that cost them? Besides, sometimes I wish I could hear the conversation instead of the commentary.

Players I want to see:

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Viffer
Barry Greenstein
Daniel Negreneau
Phil Ivey
Gus Hanson
Patrick Antonius
Andy Beal (even though he's a limit player, I am sure he could work on his NL skills and he's probably got more money than anyone)
Eli Elezra
Jamie Gold (want to see him get pwned)
Phil Helmuth (want to see him get pwned too)
Sammy Farha (brings the action)
Andy Bloch
John Juanda
Cirque fella
Alex Rodriguez (he needs more media exposure)
Ben Afleck (want to see him get pwned too)


Players I do not want to see:

Antonio E. (he just dumbs down the entire episode and his sucking up to everyone annoys the shit out of me)
Silent Mike
Meltzer
Blow writer
Sam Simon
The amateur player that never said a word

Aphex Twin
08-31-10, 02:37 AM
Anyone been watching? I bet Daniel must be super steaming to see Matusow take all his chips twice.

Benyamine, I think, is the best player out at the table right now with Ivey gone. That was completely sick how he totally called Elezra's 9-9. How the heck did he know exactly what he had from 2 bets?

Jeremy517
08-31-10, 01:25 PM
Anyone been watching?

The episodes are all repeats. Season six ended four months ago.

Aphex Twin
08-31-10, 01:56 PM
The episodes are all repeats. Season six ended four months ago.

I dunno what is up with my DVR and HSP programming. They are just recording them now as new episodes. I have Cocks Communications cable

Jeremy517
08-31-10, 05:13 PM
Your DVR relies on GSN and the third-party company that provides the guide data to provide accurate data. When there is only generic data for an episode, your DVR will record it no matter what. Pretty standard.

El Scorcho
08-31-10, 05:31 PM
pretty standard and pretty fucking irritating tbh

every year when the HSP season is over i have to delete the scheduled recording

and then every year when it comes back i have to re-add it

Aphex Twin
09-06-10, 06:45 PM
Was watching some earlier episodes with AJ Benza still on the show. Kaplan is so much funnier when it's a two-man team. He needs someone to clown and to interact with. Would be hilarious if they got someone like Jon Lovitz to pair with Kaplan.

Aphex Twin
07-23-13, 02:41 PM
I miss this show so much

Aphex Twin
07-26-13, 04:20 PM
Sam Simon dying: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/26/sam-simon-donate-fortune_n_3659809.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009