Cure to Release Double Album
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Cure to Release Double Album
The Cure recently spoke to Billboard about their upcoming thirteenth year together and they detailed plans to celebrate the ominous anniversary. Mastermind Robert Smith noted:
"Rather than cut it down, at the stage we're at with the band, I'm making this record because I want to enjoy the process and be proud of the finished result. It isn't a commercial concern for me.
What will probably happen is that a double album will come out like a limited edition, mixed by me. A single-disc version, which I assume will be primarily chosen by the label, might get mixed by someone else in order to have a different thing. There's a concern Cure fans will feel like they have to get both, but the fact is, I've agreed to sell the double version at a single album price, because I feel that strongly about it. It is almost impossible to get a double album nowadays. I naively thought my standing as an artist would push aside all objections, but the world gets ever more commercial as it turns."
Songs will include "Lusting Here in Your Mind" ("It sounds suspiciously like heavy rock to me," Smith says), "The Hungry Ghost," "The Perfect Boy," "Christmas Without You" ("That's not a very happy song," he says) and "Please Come Home."
Smith promises the Cure will play new material during its fall North American tour, but not too much.
"Rather than cut it down, at the stage we're at with the band, I'm making this record because I want to enjoy the process and be proud of the finished result. It isn't a commercial concern for me.
What will probably happen is that a double album will come out like a limited edition, mixed by me. A single-disc version, which I assume will be primarily chosen by the label, might get mixed by someone else in order to have a different thing. There's a concern Cure fans will feel like they have to get both, but the fact is, I've agreed to sell the double version at a single album price, because I feel that strongly about it. It is almost impossible to get a double album nowadays. I naively thought my standing as an artist would push aside all objections, but the world gets ever more commercial as it turns."
Songs will include "Lusting Here in Your Mind" ("It sounds suspiciously like heavy rock to me," Smith says), "The Hungry Ghost," "The Perfect Boy," "Christmas Without You" ("That's not a very happy song," he says) and "Please Come Home."
Smith promises the Cure will play new material during its fall North American tour, but not too much.
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
The Cure recently spoke to Billboard about their upcoming thirteenth year together
Also, I'm looking forward to this. I think I'm in the minority when I say that I think Bloodflowers and S/T are two of their best albums.
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Originally Posted by Arpeggi
They haven't made a good album since Disintegration
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"Wish" and "Bloodflowers" were both good
but I agree anything else was pure rubbish
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Man, I can't think of a bad album they've made since Disintegration. But let's thank Arpeggi for again not contributing anything of value to a discussion.
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Man, I can't think of a bad album they've made since Disintegration. But let's thank Arpeggi for again not contributing anything of value to a discussion.
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I personally dont like Wild Mood Swings, but the others are all pretty damned good, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
But let's thank Arpeggi for again not contributing anything of value to a discussion.
Because saying "I'm all over this" was a really nice contribution to this thread.
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i lived and died by Wish for awhile...favorite cure albums are a total matter of opinion.
i don't see how one can totally write them off as a band based on the newer albums, it's not like they have ever totally changed their sound, the basic sound of the cure is always there
i don't see how one can totally write them off as a band based on the newer albums, it's not like they have ever totally changed their sound, the basic sound of the cure is always there
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Originally Posted by Arpeggi
The best Cure album is Seventeen Seconds.
1. Pornography
2. Disintegration
3. Head on the Door
4. Boys Don't Cry
5. Seventeen Seconds
6. Faith
7. Wish
8. Three Imaginary Boys
9. Bloodflowers
10. S/T
11. KMKMKM (if they'd striped out about half the songs, this might be their best album)
12. Wild Mood Swings
13. The Top
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Originally Posted by Hiro11
I guess I'd rank them this way:
1. Pornography
2. Disintegration
3. Head on the Door
4. Boys Don't Cry
5. Seventeen Seconds
6. Faith
7. Wish
8. Three Imaginary Boys
9. Bloodflowers
10. S/T
11. KMKMKM (if they'd striped out about half the songs, this might be their best album)
12. Wild Mood Swings
13. The Top
1. Pornography
2. Disintegration
3. Head on the Door
4. Boys Don't Cry
5. Seventeen Seconds
6. Faith
7. Wish
8. Three Imaginary Boys
9. Bloodflowers
10. S/T
11. KMKMKM (if they'd striped out about half the songs, this might be their best album)
12. Wild Mood Swings
13. The Top
Nice, it's ranking time!
[Masterpiece]
1. Seventeen Seconds
2. Faith
3. Disintegration
[Very good]
4. The Head on the Door
5. Pornography
[Good]
6. Boys Don't Cry
7. Three Imaginary Boys
[Mediocre]
8. Kiss Me x 3
[Trash]
9. Wish
10. The Top
11. Bloodflowers
12. The Cure
13. Wild Mood Swings
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I've been a Cure fan since 1982. Cure fans have always been split down the middle on which kind of Cure albums are the best. I personally like all the Cure albums. The S/T one wasn't their best, but that can be attributed to Ross Robinson and all the infighting it caused within the band. The next ablum should be good with Robert Smith back producing. I can't wait.
1. Disintegration
2. KMx3
3. Seventeen Seconds
4. Pornography
5. Head on the Door
6. Three Imaginary Boys/Boy's Don't Cry (I consider these to be the same)
7. Wish
8. Faith
9. Wild Mood Swings
10. The Top
11. Bloodflowers
12. The Cure
1. Disintegration
2. KMx3
3. Seventeen Seconds
4. Pornography
5. Head on the Door
6. Three Imaginary Boys/Boy's Don't Cry (I consider these to be the same)
7. Wish
8. Faith
9. Wild Mood Swings
10. The Top
11. Bloodflowers
12. The Cure
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I actually like Ross Robinson and liked the fact that they recorded the album live..wouldn't this album be on Ross Robinson's label still since they have a 3 album deal?
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Here's my album ranking list:
1. Disintegration (Even though it's the predictable choice, but dammit, it's just flawless for me! Without a doubt one of the albums I've heard the most in my life)
2. The Head On The Door (Just pure pop bliss. Well, except for Sinking, which just leaves you as if you've heard Pornography instead. Speaking of...)
3. Pornography (This and KMKMKM are pretty much interchangeable in number, though I'll give the slighter edge to Pornography, if only because it musically marked the end of an era for the band)
4. Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me (I actually love the length and scope of this record; it's like their White Album, a nice eclectic mix of every style they were known for at that point. Plus, Fight is one of the most unusual yet awesome songs they've ever done)
5. Three Imaginary Boys (This comes at 5 just 'cause they've obviously gotten so much more ambitious since then, but this is as good as Jam/Buzzcocks inspired '79 post punk gets)
6. Seventeen Seconds (Their most relaxing out of the 1-2-3 gloom KO. There's not much distance between this and Faith in terms of rating)
7. Faith (The title song is probably one of my top 5 Cure songs)
8. Wish (This had some of their best singles ever, plus FTEOTDGS and End were nice acknowledgments of their love for the shoegaze scene, esp. Ride, but the rest of it is a bit fluff, and that was disappointing coming on the heels of Disintegration. But since this has the best guitar playing Porl's done for the group, it still comes at a decent 8)
9. Bloodflowers (At the point it came out, I actually never expected this to be as good as it is. They were treading familiar ground and playing it safe with their whole "last part of a trilogy" but this as a concept works pretty good, though I prefer the 9 song version, which is the most known anyways)
10. The Top (Just an all around mess of an album, it's pretty easy to see that Robert's head was in a pretty schizophrenic state in here. At least it's not an all bad mess. Shake Dog Shake still rocks like a motherfucker)
11. Wild Mood Swings (The different recording sessions and musicians don't help this in the least bit. It sounds like a collection of b-sides, and not good ones at that. After the S/T came out, I guess I've come to appreciate it a bit. Want is a great opener and Bare is probably one of the best acoustic things they've done)
12. The Cure (Contrary to Bloodflowers, I had expectations for this, and it turned out a hugely disappointing album;it almost made me wish that they had broken up after this. Luckily, Porl is back and I have faith again. To this day I still can't stand anything from this)
I didn't include Boys Don't Cry because it's just the US version of TIB with different tracklisting and some omitted songs, and if I'm not mistaken Robert hates that version. (He even goes so far as to say World War is the worst song they ever put out).
I've liked your lists so far. What I also like about most Cure fans is that they always have interesting reasons for liking individual albums.
It should be interesting also to make a b-sides ranking list, since they have so many great ones. Here's my suggestion
1. 2 Late
2. The Big Hand
3. Just One Kiss
4. The Exploding Boy
5. A Japanese Dream
6. Breathe
7. Fear Of Ghosts
8. Plastic Passion
9. Halo
10. Splintered In Her Head
Whoa, that was tougher than I thought. I feel like I've left so many great others out.
1. Disintegration (Even though it's the predictable choice, but dammit, it's just flawless for me! Without a doubt one of the albums I've heard the most in my life)
2. The Head On The Door (Just pure pop bliss. Well, except for Sinking, which just leaves you as if you've heard Pornography instead. Speaking of...)
3. Pornography (This and KMKMKM are pretty much interchangeable in number, though I'll give the slighter edge to Pornography, if only because it musically marked the end of an era for the band)
4. Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me (I actually love the length and scope of this record; it's like their White Album, a nice eclectic mix of every style they were known for at that point. Plus, Fight is one of the most unusual yet awesome songs they've ever done)
5. Three Imaginary Boys (This comes at 5 just 'cause they've obviously gotten so much more ambitious since then, but this is as good as Jam/Buzzcocks inspired '79 post punk gets)
6. Seventeen Seconds (Their most relaxing out of the 1-2-3 gloom KO. There's not much distance between this and Faith in terms of rating)
7. Faith (The title song is probably one of my top 5 Cure songs)
8. Wish (This had some of their best singles ever, plus FTEOTDGS and End were nice acknowledgments of their love for the shoegaze scene, esp. Ride, but the rest of it is a bit fluff, and that was disappointing coming on the heels of Disintegration. But since this has the best guitar playing Porl's done for the group, it still comes at a decent 8)
9. Bloodflowers (At the point it came out, I actually never expected this to be as good as it is. They were treading familiar ground and playing it safe with their whole "last part of a trilogy" but this as a concept works pretty good, though I prefer the 9 song version, which is the most known anyways)
10. The Top (Just an all around mess of an album, it's pretty easy to see that Robert's head was in a pretty schizophrenic state in here. At least it's not an all bad mess. Shake Dog Shake still rocks like a motherfucker)
11. Wild Mood Swings (The different recording sessions and musicians don't help this in the least bit. It sounds like a collection of b-sides, and not good ones at that. After the S/T came out, I guess I've come to appreciate it a bit. Want is a great opener and Bare is probably one of the best acoustic things they've done)
12. The Cure (Contrary to Bloodflowers, I had expectations for this, and it turned out a hugely disappointing album;it almost made me wish that they had broken up after this. Luckily, Porl is back and I have faith again. To this day I still can't stand anything from this)
I didn't include Boys Don't Cry because it's just the US version of TIB with different tracklisting and some omitted songs, and if I'm not mistaken Robert hates that version. (He even goes so far as to say World War is the worst song they ever put out).
I've liked your lists so far. What I also like about most Cure fans is that they always have interesting reasons for liking individual albums.
It should be interesting also to make a b-sides ranking list, since they have so many great ones. Here's my suggestion
1. 2 Late
2. The Big Hand
3. Just One Kiss
4. The Exploding Boy
5. A Japanese Dream
6. Breathe
7. Fear Of Ghosts
8. Plastic Passion
9. Halo
10. Splintered In Her Head
Whoa, that was tougher than I thought. I feel like I've left so many great others out.
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