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CRM114
07-09-07, 08:22 AM
The Phillies avoided their 10,000th loss until after the All-Star break. TEN THOUSAND losses.

The Phillies are the losingest franchise in all of professional sports. Philadelphia has the longest championship drought of any city with all four major sports. The Phillies are the longest running team with a single name - single city in baseball history.

You wonder why Phillies fans cringe when they hear about the poor old Cubbies or the whining Red Sox fans. Please. Imagine if the Phils never won that series in 1980!

Here's some more pathetic statistics and facts:

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The Phillies' Lost World
10,000 AND COUNTING

3 -- Consecutive 1-0 shutout losses, May 11-12-13, 1960 -- a major league record. They were thrown by Sam Jones, Jack Sanford and Jim O'Toole.

4 -- Games lost by nonpitchers. First baseman Jack Bentley was 0-2 in emergency roles in 1926 while second baseman Granny Hamner (1956) and outfielder Bob Bowman (1959) were 0-1 while moonlighting on the mound.

5 -- Consecutive 100-plus loss seasons (1938-1942), a major league record.

8 -- Most consecutive losses to open a season (1883).

9 -- Home runs allowed to Reds in a 22-3 loss at the Vet on Sept. 4, 1999.

10 -- Major league record for most 1-0 shutout losses in a season (1967).

11 -- Most losses on a road trip (July 2-12, 1992, to Los Angeles, San Francisco and San Diego).

12 -- Most consecutive home losses, 1928.

14 -- Number of times the Phillies have lost 100 or more games in a season, a major league record.

16 -- Pitchers that have lost 20 or more games in a season for the Phillies.

17 -- Most consecutive road losses, 1961.

21 -- Number of times the Phillies have been no-hit. They've been no-hit by Noodles Hahn, Lefty Leifield, Hooks Wiltse, Charles Tesreau, George Davis, Jesse Barnes, Dazzy Vance, Jim Tobin, Jim Wilson, Sal Maglie, Mike McCormick, Lew Burdette, Warren Spahn, Don Nottebart, Sandy Koufax, George Culver, Bill Stoneman, Bill Singer, Burt Hooton, Bob Forsch and Pascual Perez.

22 -- Biggest margin of defeat (not by shutout) (24-2 to Reds on May 13, 1902; 28-6 to St. Louis on July 6, 1929).

23 -- Major league record for consecutive losses, July 29 to Aug. 20, 1961; most shutout losses in a season (1908, 1909).

27 -- Franchise record for most losses in a single month (September 1939).

28 -- Margin of defeat in worst shutout loss (28-0 to Providence in 1883).

31 -- Last place finishes, an all-time record.

48 -- Games lost by pitcher John Coleman in 1883, a single-season franchise record.

55 -- Major league record for most home games lost in a season (1923, 1940, 1945).

62 -- Most road games lost in a season (1939).

111 -- Phillies record for most losses in a season, set in 1941.

677 -- Pitchers that have lost at least one game with the Phillies.

1,220 -- Losses to the Giants, most by any pro sports team to another.

ALL-TIME PHILLIES PITCHING LOSS LEADERS

1 -- Robin Roberts, 199

2 -- Steve Carlton, 161

3 -- Chris Short, 127

4 -- Curt Simmons, 110

5 -- Eppa Rixey, 103

6 -- Bill Duggleby, 99

7 -- Jimmy Ring, 98

8 -- Tully Sparks, 95

9 -- Grover Cleveland Alexander, 91

10 -- Hugh Mulcahy, 89

MOST LOSSES AS A MANAGER

1 -- 684, Gene Mauch (1960-68)

2 -- 566, Harry Wright (1884-1893)

3 -- 549, Burt Shotton (1928-33)

4 -- 510, Danny Ozark (1973-79)

5 -- 477, Jimmie Wilson (1934-38)

PITCHING RECORDS FOR MOST LOSSES

One season: 48, John Coleman (1883); 24, Charles Fraser (1904)

One season by a reliever: 12, Gene Garber (1975)

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Consecutive: 12, Russ Miller (1928), Hugh Mulcahy (1940), Ken Reynolds (1972)

Most 1-0 shutout losses in a season: 5, George McQuillan (1908), Jim Bunning (1967) (Major League record)

Most losses via shutout in one season: 8, George McQuillan (1908)

MOST RUNS ALLOWED IN A LOSS

28 -- To St. Louis Cardinals in 1929

LONGEST EXTRA-INNING LOSS

21 innings -- A 2-1 loss to the Chicago Cubs in 1917

MOST RUNS ALLOWED IN AN INNING

14 -- To Chicago Cubs in fourth inning in 1922

LOSSES TO FAMOUS PITCHERS INCLUDE ...

30 -- to Bob Gibson

28 -- to Greg Maddux

28 -- to Tom Glavine

27 -- to Tom Seaver

26 -- to Fergie Jenkins

25 -- to Phil Niekro

25 -- to Juan Marichal

23 -- to Don Drysdale

22 -- to Sandy Koufax

9 -- to Nolan Ryan

8 -- to Steve Carlton

2 -- to Curt Schilling

2 -- to Jim Bunning

1 -- to Robin Roberts

PITCHING PHUTILITY

Most runs allowed in one game -- 17, Bill Duggleby in a 17-7 loss to Reds in 1903.

Most runs allowed in one inning -- 12, Hal Kelleher in the eighth inning of a 21-2 loss to Reds in 1938 (National League record).

Most home runs allowed in one inning -- 4, Bill Kerksieck to Giants in 1939; Charlie Bicknell to Cardinals in 1948 (tied for major league record).

Most home runs allowed in a game -- 6, Kerksieck vs. Giants in 1939 (tied for major league record).

OFFENSIVE PHUTILITY MOST STRIKEOUTS

Game -- 5, Dick Allen, Scott Rolen, Darren Daulton, Jim Thome

Consecutive -- 10, Wayne Twitchell (1973)

Season -- 182, Jim Thome (2003)

MOST GROUNDED INTO DOUBLE PLAY

Game -- 3, Hal Irelan, Richie Ashburn, Johnny Estrada

Season -- 25, Del Ennis (1950), Ted Sizemore (1977)

MOST LOSSES AGAINST ONE OPPONENT

MLB -- 1,220, Phillies to Giants

NHL -- 344, Blackhawks to Red Wings

NBA -- 258, Knicks to Celtics

NFL -- 87, Lions to Packers

LONGEST LOSING STREAK* IN U.S. PRO SPORTS HISTORY

MLB -- 23 Phillies, 1961

NBA -- 23, Vancouver Grizzlies, 1995-96

NHL -- 17, San Jose Sharks, 1992-93

NFL -- 15, Carolina Panthers, 2001

* In the same season

-- Sources: baseball-reference.com, retrosheet.com and the Philadelphia Phillies

-- Compiled by Don Bostrom
Copyright 2007, The Morning Call

CRM114
07-09-07, 08:29 AM
1964 "The Phold"

...However, from a 6-game lead on the Cincinnati Reds with 12 games remaining in the season, Philadelphia collapsed in a 10-game losing streak (the first seven played at home). The crucial series came when the now second-place Phillies traveled to St. Louis to play the Cardinals after their losing home stand. They dropped the first game of the series to Bob Gibson by a 5-1 score, their eighth loss in a row, dropping them to third place. The Cardinals would sweep the three-game set and assume first place for good....

wildcatlh
07-09-07, 09:01 AM
See, this is just gonna make me cry.

Cardsfan111
07-09-07, 10:09 AM
Even harder to imagine when you consider all the Philadelphia players who are Hall of Famers.

RJainMJ
07-09-07, 08:38 PM
as sad as 10,000 is...i'm a lot more disappointed with 44-44

IMRICKJAMES
07-10-07, 02:56 AM
I'm not surprised at all. They have been around an awful long time

but they still have a better all time w-l % than the Rockies, D-Rays, Padres and Rangers!!!

matta
07-10-07, 06:31 AM
I think the Phillies should be assessed a penalty loss for unnecessarily starting words with "ph".

CRM114
07-10-07, 09:24 AM
as sad as 10,000 is...i'm a lot more disappointed with 44-44

Why? After 39 years on this earth, I'm used to it. Same old same old.

CRM114
07-10-07, 09:26 AM
I'm not surprised at all. They have been around an awful long time

but they still have a better all time w-l % than the Rockies, D-Rays, Padres and Rangers!!!

The longest running "single name/single city" stat was impressive, I thought.

matta
07-10-07, 09:53 AM
The longest running "single name/single city" stat was impressive, I thought.

Actually, that is pretty impressive.

VinVega
07-10-07, 09:54 AM
Go get 'em you Fightin' Phills! :up:

wildcatlh
07-10-07, 10:00 AM
The longest running "single name/single city" stat was impressive, I thought.

Is this technically true, considering the attempted name change in 1944-1945? I know the name change was never official, but they certainly pushed it.

Ah, I shouldn't complain. The Phillies should have at least one good thing going for them historically.

Mordred
07-10-07, 03:24 PM
I'm not surprised at all. They have been around an awful long time

but they still have a better all time w-l % than the Rockies, D-Rays, Padres and Rangers!!!:grunt: :(

10k here we come!

whotony
07-11-07, 05:03 PM
the losses to famous pitchers is unnecessary as everyone lost to those pitchers.
the name they tried to become was the blue jays, didnt take.


Go get 'em you PHightin' Phils!

fixed

matta
07-11-07, 05:12 PM
fixed


And that's a 2nd penalty loss. We'll add them to your basketball total, where you'll never even see them ;)

wildcatlh
07-11-07, 05:13 PM
the losses to famous pitchers is unnecessary as everyone lost to those pitchers.
the name they tried to become was the blue jays, didnt take.




fixed

I know the name didn't take. And I love the Phillies. Was making a point, that's all!

whotony
07-11-07, 05:17 PM
I know the name didn't take. And I love the Phillies. Was making a point, that's all!

i know i was just mentioning the name is all.

Joe Molotov
07-11-07, 06:16 PM
I think the Phillies should be assessed a penalty loss for unnecessarily starting words with "ph".

Phuck yeah!

The Bus
07-11-07, 06:29 PM
All this and they didn't even mention Mitch Williams.

matta
07-11-07, 06:50 PM
Phuck yeah!

1 more violation and I start banning people.

whotony
07-11-07, 07:04 PM
i just despised scott grahams voice but it was twisted in even more every time the phils won and he said put another one in the win column for the phightin' phils.

i just wanted to strangle him.

it seemed like they were trying to change the name of the team, sheesh every time he called them the phightens, aarrrghh. gladf he's gone.

RJainMJ
07-14-07, 10:31 AM
Why? After 39 years on this earth, I'm used to it. Same old same old.

I guess i'm still hopeful (after just 21 years on this Earth). Considering all the injuries, I guess I shouldn't be disappointed. Nice blowout win last night to avoid the 10,000th loss.

RJainMJ
07-14-07, 10:32 AM
i just despised scott grahams voice but it was twisted in even more every time the phils won and he said put another one in the win column for the phightin' phils.

i just wanted to strangle him.

it seemed like they were trying to change the name of the team, sheesh every time he called them the phightens, aarrrghh. gladf he's gone.

wow, that's the first time i've heard anyone say they disliked scott graham. I was really disappointed when he left, although Gary Matthews is growing on me. I thought graham could replace harry when he finally 100% loses it.

Cardsfan111
07-14-07, 11:00 AM
Could tonight be the night, Phils fans? Of course, with the woeful Cards in town you might put off the 10,000th a while longer.

Bill Geiger
07-14-07, 01:45 PM
All this and they didn't even mention Mitch Williams.

No one was complaining when he got us 40+ saves. Was I angry, sure. But hell, the guy didn't deserve all the shit he got. Glad to see him on comcast sports net though!

No way we were gonna beat Toronto. That series was insane with scoring.

Bill Geiger
07-14-07, 01:48 PM
wow, that's the first time i've heard anyone say they disliked scott graham. I was really disappointed when he left, although Gary Matthews is growing on me. I thought graham could replace harry when he finally 100% loses it.

I thought he was pretty good. Matthews, I agree, is growing on me. Wheeler I can live without. I like Harry Kalas and Anderson. Scott Franzke is pretty good too!

http://mlb.mlb.com/team/broadcasters.jsp?c_id=phi

whotony
07-14-07, 02:10 PM
yea graham just wasnt a good pay by play guy.

to stiff.

his hr call was as bad as i have heard.

"kiss that ball goodbye"
sheesh, just awful.

his color was fine.
he was interesting to listen to. and he did a good job answering calls during rain delays.

whotony
07-15-07, 01:01 PM
just revealed during the braves tbs broadcast.

mlb record most consecutive losing seasons.

16
1933-1948

also from 1918 -1948 over 31 seasons

30 losing seasons and 1 over .500 season.

Lateralus
07-15-07, 07:15 PM
just revealed during the braves tbs broadcast.

mlb record most consecutive losing seasons.

16
1933-1948

also from 1918 -1948 over 31 seasons

30 losing seasons and 1 over .500 season.

The Pirates will be breaking some of those records shortly.


DAMN YOU SID BREAM!

Cardsfan111
07-15-07, 07:41 PM
The Phillies are on their way... down 10 in the 8th inning!

whotony
07-15-07, 07:48 PM
The Pirates will be breaking some of those records shortly.


DAMN YOU SID BREAM!
in their 14th season in a row?


is this a roast?
wow the espn guys are killing the phils right now with all these losing niknames for players from years ago.

Bacon
07-15-07, 08:11 PM
They have done it!!!
Congrats Phillies

CRM114
07-15-07, 10:39 PM
10,000!! :banana:

das Monkey
07-15-07, 11:54 PM
Here's to 10,000 more! :beer:

das