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whoopdido
06-30-07, 12:26 AM
I was in Vegas this week at the MGM and I decided to play a table game I'd never tried before. It was called WPT All in Hold'em. Has anybody tried this? I actually thought it was a lot of fun. I was betting $5 chips and played for over 2 hours and ended up walking away with about $100 too. I never expect to win when I gamble so if I can spend 2 hours gambling without actually losing that's definitely a success in my book.

Anyway, you make an ante bet and then have option of making a "hole card" bet and a "final hand" bet. You get dealt your hole cards and suited cards, pairs and "big slick" pay. I think suited cards pay 2-1, small pairs pay 3-1, Kings and Queens pay like 8-1, Aces pay 20-1, Big Slick pays 25-1 and for some reason 2 Red Aces pay 50-1. I don't know why 2 Black Aces don't pay that. After you see your hole cards you have the option of either folding and forfeiting both your ante and your hole card bet or you can bet either 5 times your ante or 10 times your ante. The dealer then turns his 2 hole cards over and if his 2 cards add up to 11 or less I think he doesn't qualify and everybody's ante bet is a push. If you bet 5 times the dealer has to have a total of 14 I think to qualify and if you bet 10 times the dealer qualifies with 17. After that regular Hold'em rules apply. If your 5 card hand beats the dealer you win your ante and either 5 times or 10 times bet. Also if you made a "final hand" bet it pays off starting with a 3 of a kind and goes up to 500-1 for a royal flush. I'm not totally sure what the actual numbers are for the dealer to qualify but it's pretty much just a safety net for the casino so players can't keep winning 10 times their bet if the dealer constantly turns over 2-7 off suit.

In any event I thought it was a lot fun and unless I was missing something there doesn't seem to be a huge house edge. Obviously there isn't much strategy and it's just you against the dealer so there's no bluffing or reading of the other players involved. Anybody have any experience with this game?

gimmepilotwings
07-02-07, 02:11 PM
Sounds like a variation of 3 card poker. Not a very profitable game by the #'s. Looks like you had a good time though.

mkdevo
07-02-07, 03:03 PM
lots of good info on wizardofodds.

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr.
07-02-07, 03:03 PM
yeah I played it last week

whoopdido
07-02-07, 04:27 PM
Sounds like a variation of 3 card poker. Not a very profitable game by the #'s. Looks like you had a good time though.

It's pretty close to 3-card poker. The same types of rules apply.

It can be a profitable game if you get lucky...then again all casino games can be profitable if you're lucky.

I mean say you bet 10 bucks on all 3 bets and get dealt 2 Aces, you make a 10 times bet, the dealer qualifies and then another Ace comes up. I know that's a lot of ifs but if you play enough Hold'em getting 3 Aces isn't that big of a deal. With that scenerio, unless my math is wrong, your $130 bet would payback $440. $10 for the original ante, $200 for the pair of Aces hole card bet, $200 for winning the 10 times bet and finally $30 for a 3 of a kind. Sure that doesn't happen very often but the guy was sitting next to must have hit about 5 full houses which paid 5-1. Pretty fun way to kill a couple hours, but yeah you're probably not going to break the bank.

El Scorcho
07-02-07, 04:38 PM
Hellooooooooooooo variance!

Just like 3-card poker, let it ride, 4-card poker, etc. this game will likely make or break you fairly damn quickly.

However, I did play this variant recently in Reno and won like $150 betting with $5 units:

# The player makes an Ante wager, plus an optional Bonus bet.
# Two hole cards are dealt face down to the player and dealer. The player may look at his own cards.
# The player must either fold or make a Flop bet. The Flop bet must be two times the amount of the ante.
# Three community cards (the Flop) are dealt.
# The player may do nothing or make a Turn bet. The Turn bet must be exactly equal to the ante bet.
# A fourth community card is dealt (the Turn).
# The player may do nothing or make a River bet. The River bet must be exactly equal to the ante bet.
# A fifth community card is dealt (the River).

Deftones
07-02-07, 08:29 PM
Yeah. Remember how you won $150 and I lost $100? I remember. :mad: