I was playing Zelda but I just beat it. Will probably collect the rest of the Poes and the cave of ordeals and then get to work on some DS games. Probably not much for me until some of the other launch games get cheaper. When they hit the $20 or $30 mark I'll probably pick up Excite Truck, Elebits, and Trauma Center.
NiCK Crush
03-03-07, 04:23 PM
So what's everyone playing on the Wii right now?
I'm mostly VCing it.
i'm still addicted to Wii Sports Bowling... i got Zelda on launch day but am still only 12 hours into it... i just havent had the time for a Zelda adventure. When i play Wii, its usually Wii Sports, WarioWare, or Wii Play... i need quick games right now.
-NiCK
lordwow
03-03-07, 04:37 PM
i'm still addicted to Wii Sports Bowling... i got Zelda on launch day but am still only 12 hours into it... i just havent had the time for a Zelda adventure. When i play Wii, its usually Wii Sports, WarioWare, or Wii Play... i need quick games right now.
-NiCK
That's actually why I've been VCing. LTTP is great for both long (dungeons) and short (heart pieces, etc) sessions. And the home button (save anywhere), makes it a lot easier.
chrisih8u
03-03-07, 04:41 PM
Im playing SSX, Wii Play, and Zelda: OOT. And I'll pick up TMNT when it comes out.
Josh H
03-03-07, 04:41 PM
I'm playing RE4 (GC) to knock the dust off.
Can't wait for Super Paper Mario next month.
DarthMarino
03-03-07, 04:46 PM
Blur has been dominating my free time. On the virtual console front I've been playing New Adventure Island.
Michael Corvin
03-03-07, 05:02 PM
Sonic & the Secret Rings, which is pretty fun. It is a lot like an old school platformer which is where a lot of criticisms come from. Twitch jumping, lots of memorization of the board and redoing levels because you didn't know that giant chasm was there because of the camera. All valid complaints, but it makes it feel old school to me. Killing enemies with the Wiimote is strangely satisfying. It isn't super difficult, but can offer a challenge if you try and complete everything. It's a great looking game to boot and the control style works well. It's my first Sonic game and I like it.
Kid Icarus - I've spent a good 6-7 hours on this one. Classic. I'm close to the end right now, level 4-1 and have loved every minute of it.
Zelda - I play a couple hours every other week. I'm just not feeling this one yet. I'm between dungeon 2 and 3.
lordwow
03-03-07, 05:10 PM
I'm playing RE4 (GC) to knock the dust off.
Can't wait for Super Paper Mario next month.
Mmm, soon as I beat this last level in Rogue Squadron II, I'm going to be playing Paper Mario (GC) for the first time in anticipaton of the Wii sequel.
Full BC on the Wii for GC was one of Nintendo's best moves. I'm loving the GC since I've bought Rouge Squadron II, Paper Mario, RE4, SSBM, Zelda:WW, and have Viewtiful Joe coming, all of which I missed out on last generation.
Quack
03-03-07, 05:19 PM
I've been doing a lot of the Everybody Votes channel, strangley enough....I think I'm 7-3 for predictions so far...so that's pretty cool...That and Mario Kart 64 and Ocarina which I just downloaded recently.
jw2299
03-03-07, 08:53 PM
I just wanted to say that I got a Wii for my birthday 2 weeks ago and it's bad ass. I can't wait to get Zelda and Trauma Center.
Also, can I buy Wii points online from Nintendo? I searched their site and couldn't find anywhere to purchase them.
lordwow
03-03-07, 09:00 PM
I just wanted to say that I got a Wii for my birthday 2 weeks ago and it's bad ass. I can't wait to get Zelda and Trauma Center.
Also, can I buy Wii points online from Nintendo? I searched their site and couldn't find anywhere to purchase them.
Only through the Wii I believe.
dtcarson
03-03-07, 09:26 PM
Yeah, just log in to the Wii shop channel and you can buy them there. Plus, you can buy as little as 10.00 worth.
I'm hopping between Excitetruck and Zelda--I'm only a couple hours into it, but I heard the first few hours are kind of slow.
Rented Wario Ware: Smooth Moves. Cute yet stupid (in a good way). I can*not* beat that darn dancing level. There's just no signal (that I've found). It's a little annoying it's not multiplayer right off the bat.
I'm actually browsing the used GC aisle at EB/GS and trying to decide to take the plunge, since I never had a GC.
chess
03-03-07, 09:43 PM
We're playing Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy for Gamecube...a pretty good little Zelda clone.
Edit: It's actually remarkable...this is the first game I've seen my fiance get into since Animal Crossing. She's playing and I'm watching...and it's usually the other way around. :up:
Plus the game is fun and funny. I'd recommend it to anybody who likes the Zelda formula...talking to you Hinkle. ;) I'd put it on par...maybe just a smidge below...Beyond Good and Evil. It takes a few hours to open up though...so be patient.
edytwinky
03-04-07, 07:03 PM
VC'ing it with SMW and DKC
Michael Corvin
03-05-07, 01:31 AM
We're playing Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy for Gamecube...a pretty good little Zelda clone.
Edit: It's actually remarkable...this is the first game I've seen my fiance get into since Animal Crossing. She's playing and I'm watching...and it's usually the other way around. :up:
Plus the game is fun and funny. I'd recommend it to anybody who likes the Zelda formula...talking to you Hinkle. ;) I'd put it on par...maybe just a smidge below...Beyond Good and Evil. It takes a few hours to open up though...so be patient.
I bought that cheap about two years ago and it sat and sat until I traded it in for my Wii. I never even popped it in once. :lol: Maybe I'll snag it cheap again if I'm desperate for anything to play.
Sonny Corinthos
03-05-07, 01:38 AM
Research firm names Wii the next gen winner through 2008. (http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=103508)
davidh777
03-05-07, 02:15 AM
I haven't played Zelda in a few weeks. Got a little frustrated trying to use the Goron guys as trampolines but I'll try again sometime.
Found Wii Play at Target so I'll try that this week.
Mr. Cinema
03-05-07, 07:15 AM
Been playing some Zelda, but lately it's been VC games.
chess
03-05-07, 08:05 AM
I bought that cheap about two years ago and it sat and sat until I traded it in for my Wii. I never even popped it in once. :lol: Maybe I'll snag it cheap again if I'm desperate for anything to play.
You won't be sorry. I don't think I paid more than $10-12 for it. I'd always been put off by the name, but finally heard enough good things about it to give it a shot.
It's essentially a Zelda-like adventure with a bit more platformer emphasis. The first hour or so is painful (simple areas to learn the controls), but it gets really good as it goes.
The mummy is awesome.
steebo777
03-05-07, 09:01 AM
Been playing a lot of Zelda: ALTTP, a little WiiPlay, some Bonk's and a lot of WiiSports still.
JimmySRU
03-05-07, 12:43 PM
whats on the VC today
Josh H
03-05-07, 01:03 PM
whats on the VC today
According to gonintendo.com it's:
Elevator Action (NES)
Super Ghouls and Ghosts (SNES)
Sword of Vermillion (Genesis)
UncleGramps
03-05-07, 01:03 PM
whats on the VC today
According to http://www.vc-reviews.com/news/58/us-vc-releases-5th-march.php:
Super Ghouls n Ghosts (SNES) - 800 points
Elevator Action (NES) - 500 points
Sword of Vermillion (Genesis) - 800 points
darkside
03-05-07, 01:09 PM
Don't see Elevator Action, but the other two are there. Another week with nothing I want to buy.
jdpatri
03-05-07, 01:10 PM
Super Ghouls n Ghosts! Excellent. I know I played the hell out of Sword of Vemillion back in the day but I don't remember a damn thing about it.
Quack
03-05-07, 01:14 PM
Might have to blind buy Super Ghouls N Ghosts....the original for NES was one of the hardest games I ever played.
spinning plates
03-05-07, 01:19 PM
I was playing Zelda but I just beat it. Will probably collect the rest of the Poes and the cave of ordeals and then get to work on some DS games. Probably not much for me until some of the other launch games get cheaper. When they hit the $20 or $30 mark I'll probably pick up Excite Truck, Elebits, and Trauma Center.
red steel is $29 this week at best buy.
steebo777
03-05-07, 01:19 PM
I've heard good things about Sword of Vermillion, but don't know anything about it. Good VC blind buy?
I am tempted by Super Ghouls and Ghosts...
Michael Corvin
03-05-07, 01:37 PM
Ah man, Super Ghouls & Ghosts. I'll have to think about that one.
PixyJunket
03-05-07, 01:43 PM
Super Ghouls and Ghosts is on the Capcom Classics disc, if you want a sloppy and blurry version of the game.
Josh H
03-05-07, 01:45 PM
Super Ghouls and Ghosts was too hard for me back when I was young and didn't suck at games, so I'm not about to fuck with it now. :lol:
Actually I did give the ROM ago a few months ago and couldn't even get past the second level. :lol:
gimmepilotwings
03-05-07, 01:47 PM
Might have to blind buy Super Ghouls N Ghosts....the original for NES was one of the hardest games I ever played.
Totally. One of my favorite games of all time. When they bring back the original, I might get that on the VC.
slop101
03-05-07, 02:41 PM
I wonder if the level-select cheat will work on the SGG's VC.
DodgingCars
03-05-07, 03:16 PM
I've been mostly playing Zelda on the Wii. Because I'm renting Hotel Dusk on the DS, I've been spending a lot of time on that... I also am doing the 10 day free trial of World of Warcraft. I've slowed down a little with Zelda because I'm at the Snowpeak dungeon and it's a freakin' annoying dungeon. Not having much fun with it.
I plan on renting Sonic soon, so I'll probably check that out this weekend.
I bought 2 gamecube games (Metroid PH2 and Zelda: WW) on eBay and will be checking those out when I get them.
jdpatri
03-05-07, 03:35 PM
I've heard good things about Sword of Vermillion, but don't know anything about it. Good VC blind buy?
Well, I'll try to recall some relevant thoughts. No guarantees though. Sword of Vermillion was one of those "action-RPGs" that were new and exciting at the time. It just meant that instead of a turn-based battle, you were thrown into an action scene where you controlled the character in a "live" hack-and-slash battle that was largely determined by your character's powers and abilities. It was one of the few RPGs that held my interest long enough to finish... but I don't remember if that was because it was short or because I really did play the hell out of it.
If you wait a day or two I'll have some feedback edited for 2007 rather than just rosy memories.
PerryD
03-05-07, 03:51 PM
Super Ghouls and Ghosts was too hard for me back when I was young and didn't suck at games
I did finish the original Sega Genesis Ghouls and Ghosts, but I don't remember getting too far in Super G&G on the SNES. I picked up the PSP G&G recently and the certainly didn't ease up on the difficulty level on that one either.
I've been real impressed with the SNES game selection on the VC, the real cream of the crop with Super Mario World, Zelda Link to the Past, Donkey Kong Country, Street Fighter II, F-Zero, Super Castlevania, R-Type 3, Contra 3, and now Super Ghouls n Ghosts. I can't imagine a better list of titles to start with. The N64 list is decent considering there is only 3 available.
I have to say the NES VC list really really sucks. Crap like Pinball, Soccer, Tennis and Baseball are a joke. They are charging $5 each for a dozen games that are already included for free with Animal Crossing. Where are Castlevania, Metroid, Double Dragon, Contra, Ninja Gaiden, Dragon Warrior, etc.
ltrain
03-05-07, 04:16 PM
I've heard good things about Sword of Vermillion, but don't know anything about it. Good VC blind buy?
I remember really liking Sword of Vermillion back in the day. It had excellent graphics for it's time (especially the boss battles!) It wasn't all that difficult though, especially if you used the strategy guide that came with the cartridge. Overall, it was an enjoyable game, but I don't know how it would hold up today. I'm tempted to give it a try on the VC, but I still haven't bought DKC or Streets of Rage yet, and I think those are more deserving of my $$.
tanman
03-05-07, 04:23 PM
There are still some games that I would really like to get on the VC. Mainly two player co-op games. I still think the NES was the best platform for two player co-op.
NES:
Jackal
Contra
Snake Rattle and Roll
Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers
Ducktales
SNES:
Really just Super Metroid but if they could do the Square Soft RPGs that would be awesome. Can you imagine Secret of Mana?
Since the price of the VC games is so high I have been quite picky as to what games I want to get. I really just want to get the games that I played over and over again.
darkside
03-05-07, 04:33 PM
I just want Super Mario RPG. They give me that and I let them slide on their other overpriced games.
SG&G is a good game, but my ability to play games like this ended when I turned 20. I no longer have the patience I had in my teens to beat games like that.
DodgingCars
03-05-07, 05:29 PM
I just want Super Mario RPG. They give me that and I let them slide on their other overpriced games.
SG&G is a good game, but my ability to play games like this ended when I turned 20. I no longer have the patience I had in my teens to beat games like that.
I'm glad to hear people say this. I thought it was just me. I suck at games now. Or I always sucked, but I had much more patience as a kid. Now, when I get stuck, I stop trying. Thanks to the internet I can cheat. :)
Josh H
03-05-07, 05:42 PM
Yeah, I have zero patience for difficult games these days. So little time for games just leaves me little desire to spend time doing the same shit over and over and over until I finally get past it....only to get stuck at something even harder an hour later in the game.
Plus my life is stressful enough that I don't want added frustration from games. I like to play games to unwind and relax, thus relatively easy games like New Super Mario Bros and Zelda: TP are right up my alley. Especially Zelda where there is still some challenge in figuring out puzzles, but not much in the way of dying repeatedly on bosses etc.
darkside
03-05-07, 07:11 PM
Another thing to consider is high difficulty was the norm in the NES and SNES games. That is how you got a value out of most of those games. Spending days on end beating Ghouls and Ghosts and Ninja Gaiden was just the way it was. We didn't know any better. If these games were easier you could beat them in one sitting.
Once games matured and 10-30 hours of gameplay was there on a consistent basis without you having to die and repeat levels 50 times there was no way I would ever go back again. I will still play the occasional Treasure shooter, but 99 times out of 100 I will take a game with medium difficulty. I just want to enjoy the story and have fun. I no longer need to feel frustrated to enjoy a game. I also refuse to dedicate hours on end to mastering a game. I want to enjoy it for 10-20 hours and move on to something else. I would rather spend 100 hours of my life enjoying 10 different games than mastering 1. That is another reason most of the VC stuff is of no interest to me. The kind of gameplay Ninja Gaiden and Ghouls and Ghosts was based on belongs dead and buried.
Jeremy517
03-05-07, 09:01 PM
The worst part about Super Ghouls and Ghosts
You finally struggle all the way through to the end, only to be told that you don't have the weapon you need to beat the last guy (and can't possibly have it yet), and that you have to go all the way through all the levels again. Ugh.
Michael Corvin
03-05-07, 09:10 PM
I remember that shit. Total bitch ending.
UncleGramps
03-05-07, 09:38 PM
Yeah, at that point I just turned the game off in disgust. Still a great game, just terribly frustrating. I don't think I'll be downloading the VC version for that reason.
eatntae
03-06-07, 01:38 AM
I don't remember seeing it mentioned in any of the Wii threads here, but I saw 1st party Wii component cables at BestBuy today, $34.99.
steebo777
03-06-07, 07:51 AM
Yeah I've been seeing them for a couple months now at BB.
steebo777
03-06-07, 07:54 AM
There are still some games that I would really like to get on the VC. Mainly two player co-op games. I still think the NES was the best platform for two player co-op.
NES:
Jackal
Contra
Snake Rattle and Roll
Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers
Ducktales
SNES:
Really just Super Metroid but if they could do the Square Soft RPGs that would be awesome. Can you imagine Secret of Mana?
Since the price of the VC games is so high I have been quite picky as to what games I want to get. I really just want to get the games that I played over and over again.
I'm totally on the same page with everything you said, especially for Secret of Mana.
Michael Corvin
03-06-07, 08:36 AM
I asked about Duck Tales and Chip N Dale over on Capcom's board. They no longer have the rights to them so they are in lingo elsewhere.
KurrptSenate
03-06-07, 08:55 AM
Super G&G just has a steep learning curve to it. Climbing that plateau is rough at first, but once you make it to the top, the rest of the game is easy.
Granted, it took me a full week, but ya know
Draven
03-06-07, 10:01 AM
I've played a few of the Ghouls and Ghosts/Ghosts and Goblins games lately and cannot believe I ever got close to the end on any of them. I have trouble beating the first levels now.
KurrptSenate
03-06-07, 10:07 AM
man, I'm thinking about selling all my Wii games except for about 3.....
PixyJunket
03-06-07, 10:22 AM
I beat Super Ghouls and Ghosts once when I was in Jr. High.. and yes, the REAL way with the bracelet and all.
dvdhook
03-06-07, 11:09 AM
Does anyone know what is going on with Mario Party 8? I thought it was supposed to come out this week, but haven't heard any news. Has it been delayed?
Michael Corvin
03-06-07, 11:11 AM
I looked it up the other day and it is now listed for June on Amazon and some other places.
pinata242
03-06-07, 11:23 AM
That sucks, I was hoping it was coming from TRU soon. Oh well, still will only have paid $27.38 for it if/when it comes. Haven't been charged yet, so no harm either.
steebo777
03-06-07, 12:52 PM
Yep, it says 6/1 on EB and Gamestop's sites (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=230005). That sucks. They have Metroid Prime 3 (http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=T000227) as 6/1 as well but I'm sure that'll be released later as well.
tbird2340
03-06-07, 04:20 PM
Ok.. I'm thinking of MAYBE getting a Wii (if I am ever able to find one)..
Now, let me list my reasoning and hopefully someone can push me one way or another...
I currently own a 360 and play it almost every night (wife goes to bed at 10: and I get my game on till around 11:30 or so)..
I would only be buying the Wii to hopefully have some gaming fun with her (and nephews but mainly her).
She really has zero interest in games but for some reason I think the Wii may change that..
I don't want Zelda and other games like that and I would mainly be getting it for the interactive games so we can both play (Wii sports)?
The question is and I know you don't know my wife so it's kinda hard to answer...
Is it worth getting a Wii just for what I would want it for? Are there enough fun games like I described??
Thanks!! :up:
darkside
03-06-07, 04:26 PM
The Wii is a great choice for playing with the wife. I'm actually fairly underwhelmed with it overall, but it is so good for multiplayer fun with games like Wii Sports and Wii Play that it makes up for the rest of the software that is pretty mediocre IMO.
We rented Sonic last night and after an hour went back to playing Wii Sports.
gimmepilotwings
03-06-07, 04:27 PM
Ok.. I'm thinking of MAYBE getting a Wii (if I am ever able to find one)..
Now, let me list my reasoning and hopefully someone can push me one way or another...
I currently own a 360 and play it almost every night (wife goes to bed at 10: and I get my game on till around 11:30 or so)..
I would only be buying the Wii to hopefully have some gaming fun with her (and nephews but mainly her).
She really has zero interest in games but for some reason I think the Wii may change that..
I don't want Zelda and other games like that and I would mainly be getting it for the interactive games so we can both play (Wii sports)?
The question is and I know you don't know my wife so it's kinda hard to answer...
Is it worth getting a Wii just for what I would want it for? Are there enough fun games like I described??
Thanks!! :up:
I can't think of many of those games yet. Wii Sports, (Wii Play) and Warioware are the only games that come to mind that spouses can enjoy together.
You might want to wait if it is for "her". What am I saying, you should just go ahead and get the Wii. I doubt that you will have any regret once you do.
pinata242
03-06-07, 04:28 PM
I *think* Cooking Mama may have that bit of competitive fun you're looking for. It's cute and centers around something all women love doing <s>for</s> with their man!
KurrptSenate
03-06-07, 04:52 PM
i liked cooking mama for the DS, but it lost its appeal faster than any DS game I can remember that I actually liked
pinata242
03-06-07, 05:01 PM
i liked cooking mama for the DS, but it lost its appeal faster than any DS game I can remember that I actually liked
Even in multiplayer?
Michael Corvin
03-06-07, 05:17 PM
Rayman is a blast. Fun for anyone. I actually haven't tried out many games with my wife. She did give Excite Truck a go and enjoyed that. Said she wouldn't mind playing that again.
jeffdsmith
03-06-07, 05:37 PM
Is it worth getting a Wii just for what I would want it for? Are there enough fun games like I described??
Thanks!! :up:
My Wii has enabled my wife, mother, father and brothers to finally participate in a hobby I enjoy. For that reason alone I feel that the Wii purchase was a good one. I believe there are several games that meet your criteria and more importantly believe there will be many many more coming to the Wii.
clckworang
03-06-07, 06:32 PM
I've had my Wii for about 2 weeks now and have just been loving it! I would say that it would be a good purchase to play some video games with your wife. Even my mom and dad, two people who have zero interest in video games, loved playing Wii Sports. In fact, I think my mom might want to buy a Wii just for that. I haven't bought any games, though. All I have is the Wii Sports, but by the nature of games like that, it has so much replay potential. Bowling is all about the score, golf is about the course and with tennis it keeps a record of your play on the chosen Mii so that you pretty much always go up against a team that will give you run. And the multiplayer is the best part of the Wii. My friends and I have a blast every time we fire it up.
Well, obviously you guys can tell that I've only really been playing Wii Sports (and a good amount of time making Miis as well). But I am proud to say that I have attained pro status in tennis. I flirt with pro status in bowling. I bowl a few really good games and reach pro status, and then I bowl a few subpar games and get knocked back down. I think that after a few bowling games in a row, my arm starts to get a little tired and I lose a little bit of the steam on my rolls. Am I the only one who has this problem?
darkside
03-06-07, 07:40 PM
I'm at the pro level in bowling, but fatigue plays a part definitely. That is what makes the game so great. If I bowled 300 every time I would get bored quickly. They really struck a good balance on the bowling game. Its fun and challenging without being frustrating. It is the prototype Wii game.
clckworang
03-06-07, 08:56 PM
^^^ Yeah, I would completely agree with that. And that is one of the things that I love about the Wii -- it's totally possible to just be having an "off" day, where your usual swing just isn't quite there, maybe more hook than usual or not as much.
And partly because of that, I feel like I continue to learn more and more about how to play, not just from playing the game myself but more so from watching other people play. You can pick up little tricks and things that way because every person who picks up a Wii controller has their own distinct style of play. It's just not the same when you have a regular controller and a series of buttons to push, which isn't to say that the traditional gaming experience isn't still enjoyable.
Oh, and would you mind if I added you, darkside?
darkside
03-06-07, 09:37 PM
Oh, and would you mind if I added you, darkside?
No problem. I will add you as well.
Patman
03-07-07, 03:10 PM
I'm scared of my Wii console now because whenever I fire up Wii Sports, intending to play about half an hour, I invariably wind up playing about 3-4 hours into the wii hours of the night, or until I just get tuckered out.
Looks awesome. Can't wait. I've never played any of the previous ones though. Maybe I'll pick up 1000 year door for cheap first.
Josh H
03-07-07, 06:31 PM
Looks awesome. Can't wait. I've never played any of the previous ones though. Maybe I'll pick up 1000 year door for cheap first.
This one really won't be similar though. Paper Mario 1 & 2 where "lite" RPGs with some minor platform elements.
This is a sheer Mario platformer with some minor RPG elements.
Deftones
03-07-07, 07:12 PM
That whole 2-D to 3-D thing looks pretty damn cool.
chess
03-07-07, 08:13 PM
Paper Mario looks pretty good for gameboy. I can't wait to see the Wii version. Oh, that was the Wii version?
Har har.
-rolleyes-
Michael Corvin
03-07-07, 08:38 PM
Looks awesome. Can't wait. I've never played any of the previous ones though.
same here. RPGs aren't my thing though. I wonder just how much of this game is.
DodgingCars
03-07-07, 09:04 PM
same here. RPGs aren't my thing though. I wonder just how much of this game is.
1000 year door is $20 new, but I'm sure can be had used on ebay much cheaper.
DodgingCars
03-07-07, 09:05 PM
This one really won't be similar though. Paper Mario 1 & 2 where "lite" RPGs with some minor platform elements.
This is a sheer Mario platformer with some minor RPG elements.
Ok. Still.. I'm interested in the series, even if they're slightly different.
Josh H
03-07-07, 09:06 PM
same here. RPGs aren't my thing though. I wonder just how much of this game is.
This one is supposedly very little RPG. It's a platformer and you earn abilities (i.e. you can't run at the outset).
Josh H
03-07-07, 09:07 PM
Ok. Still.. I'm interested in the series, even if they're slightly different.
They're all great games, just pointing out the difference (which doesn't seem to be slight) to show that you don't have to play the old ones before this one and people that didn't like the past two should still give this one a whirl. :D
But buy all means shell out the $20 for 1000 Year Door. It's a great game. :D
jeffdsmith
03-07-07, 09:43 PM
Paper Mario looks pretty good for gameboy. I can't wait to see the Wii version. Oh, that was the Wii version?
Sometimes it is better to not "open your mouth and remove all doubt."
Liver&Onions
03-07-07, 09:51 PM
Don't feed the troll guys.
abrg923
03-07-07, 10:51 PM
Man...I didn't care at all about Super Paper Mario until seeing that video. Now, it's a must-buy. That looks awesome.
DodgingCars
03-08-07, 12:13 AM
This has probably been discussed before, but I was thinking that there are actually a lot of things that are possible with the Wii mote that we haven't really heard much about yet. The one that comes to my mind is a RTS game for the Wii. One of the reasons these tend to work better on PCs is because of the use of the mouse. However, because the wii-mote can act as mouse (to some degree), it seems that it would be pretty easy to develop a RTS game for the Wii with some pretty nice controls. The Wii-mote could as a mouse with the A as the left click and the B as the right click. The nunchuck could be used to mimic the arrow keys and some other button pushes (with the C and Z buttons). I'd love to see a good RTS for the Wii.
Obviously there is still some talk about seeing a good FPS come to the wii with the Wii-mote as the aiming device. If done right, it should be good. I'm anxious to see MP3.
But I was thinking that while the motion controls on the Wii are nice, I think the Wii-mote actually opens up a lot more possibilites for it's use as a mouse/pointer.
Even Lemmings would probably be easier to use with a Wii-mote than a regular controller.
NiCK Crush
03-08-07, 03:43 AM
wow. Super Paper Mario looks really great. cant wait to try that one out.
-NiCK
jeffdsmith
03-08-07, 08:04 AM
Don't feed the troll guys.
:D I'm a man of charity, what can I say?
chess
03-08-07, 08:18 AM
Man...I didn't care at all about Super Paper Mario until seeing that video. Now, it's a must-buy. That looks awesome.
Same here. I've discovered that RPGs just aren't my thing, but I don't mind some RPG elements in my games...Castlevania comes to mind.
Anyway, hearing that this is a platformer with some RPG elements made my day. It really looks like a lot of fun. :up:
And a repeat...if you are looking for a hidden gem in the Gamecube library, seriously, Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy is a really good game. Gameplay is Ratchet meets Zelda with Egyptian trappings. I think I like it better than Beyond Good and Evil...though the story isn't as good. Well worth the $10-15 it goes for now.
tbird2340
03-08-07, 08:24 AM
My Wii has enabled my wife, mother, father and brothers to finally participate in a hobby I enjoy. For that reason alone I feel that the Wii purchase was a good one. I believe there are several games that meet your criteria and more importantly believe there will be many many more coming to the Wii.
Well after some talking with the wife I got the green light..
Now just to find one... Thanks for the advice fellas.. :up:
Jtnguyen12
03-08-07, 09:07 AM
Wii
April 9 / Super Paper Mario
April / Prince of Persia Rival Swords
April / Bust-A-Move Bash
April / Bioncle Heroes
May 15 / Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
May 29 / Mario Party 8
May / Tamagotchi Party On
May / Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean at World's End
May / Escape from Bug Island
May / Spider-Man The Movie 3
June 11 / Big Brain Academy
June 25 / Pokemon Battle Revolution
June / Cosmic Family
Spring / Heatseeker
Q2 / Legend of the Dragon
Summer / Shrek the Third
Summer / Transformers the Game
Nintendo DS
April 22 / Pokemon Diamond and Pokemon Pearl
May / Pirates of the Caribbean 3
May / Dragon Ball Z: Harukanaru Densetsu
May / Pony Friends
May / Diner Dash
May / Touch the Dead
June 4 / Nintendo DS browser
June 4 / Planet Puzzle League
June 11 / Touchmaster DS
June / Zendoku
Spring / Naruto Ninja Council 3
Spring / Time Ace
Spring / Death Jr. and the Science Fair of Doom
Q2 / Rune Factory: A Fantasy Harvest Moon
Summer / Shrek the Third
Summer / Transformers: Autobots
Summer / Transformers: Decepticons
KurrptSenate
03-08-07, 09:12 AM
it kinda sucks Nintendo is limiting 3rd parties from making online games for this system :(
lordwow
03-08-07, 09:30 AM
I gave up and bought Mortal Kombat Armageddon on XBox at the Amazon 60% off sale. I don't want to know what controls they'll give it on the Wii.
PixyJunket
03-08-07, 09:32 AM
Rune Factory!!
darkside
03-08-07, 09:35 AM
That Wii list is a big let down. Paper Mario is the only sure thing I will want. Hopefully a couple of the other games will be good as well. The DS list isn't much better. Definitely the slow time of year.
PixyJunket
03-08-07, 09:45 AM
While I agree the Wii list looks sparse.. the DS list has Pokémon, Diner Dash, Touch the Dead, Planet Puzzle League, Zendoku, Time Ace and Rune Factory as possible good titles. The Dragon Ball Z card RPG could be decent as well.. but that's certainly a "take the side of caution" game.
lordwow
03-08-07, 09:48 AM
That Wii list is a big let down. Paper Mario is the only sure thing I will want. Hopefully a couple of the other games will be good as well. The DS list isn't much better. Definitely the slow time of year.
Agreed.
Luckily, I have the GC Paper Mario to play through first in my backlog, and just grabbed both Castlevania DS games, so they should keep me entertained for a while.
KurrptSenate
03-08-07, 09:48 AM
well, is it the CCG, sort of like Yu Gi Oh, or is it like metal gear acid?
darkside
03-08-07, 09:53 AM
While I agree the Wii list looks sparse.. the DS list has Pokémon, Diner Dash, Touch the Dead, Planet Puzzle League, Zendoku, Time Ace and Rune Factory as possible good titles. The Dragon Ball Z card RPG could be decent as well.. but that's certainly a "take the side of caution" game.
I'm trying to resist getting pulled into another Pokemon game, but I'm sure I will fail. I'll read up on the other games. I'm not a fan of Diner Dash on the PC, but maybe this DS version will be better.
KurrptSenate
03-08-07, 09:57 AM
apparently that Pokemon Wii is the first online game for the Wii, and also allows you to connect your DS to the Wii, as well as transfer your DS character to your Wii.
Fukking A, ill probably have to buy it strictly out of curiosity
While I agree the Wii list looks sparse.. the DS list has Pokémon, Diner Dash, Touch the Dead, Planet Puzzle League, Zendoku, Time Ace and Rune Factory as possible good titles. The Dragon Ball Z card RPG could be decent as well.. but that's certainly a "take the side of caution" game.
To me, it looks like both of those lists are pretty scarce. I know that there are not a lot of good games out for the Wii right now, but my DS backlog is well over 5 games. There are a few GC games that I still haven't played either. (Eternal Darkness and BG&E)
PixyJunket
03-08-07, 10:10 AM
I'm trying to resist getting pulled into another Pokemon game, but I'm sure I will fail. I'll read up on the other games. I'm not a fan of Diner Dash on the PC, but maybe this DS version will be better.As far as Pokémon goes, I've managed to stay interested by only playing the initial games on each system.. which means I've played the original GB game and the original GBA game. Time Ace looks like it's getting poor previews from the early build of the game.. I listed it based on its premise of sounding like an update to Konami's awesome arcade game, Time Pilot.. might have to mark that as a "maybe" now. I'll try the online Diner Dash to see if it's interesting after work.
Michael Corvin
03-08-07, 10:13 AM
Looks sparse, but that's only through, what, July?
PixyJunket
03-08-07, 10:18 AM
Looks sparse, but that's only through, what, July?Yeah, and it's not even complete as I just noticed that Mario Strikers isn't on the Wii list.
Josh H
03-08-07, 11:25 AM
While I agree the Wii list looks sparse.. the DS list has Pokémon, Diner Dash, Touch the Dead, Planet Puzzle League, Zendoku, Time Ace and Rune Factory as possible good titles. The Dragon Ball Z card RPG could be decent as well.. but that's certainly a "take the side of caution" game.
Meh.
Planet Puzzle League is the only one that I'm interested in on the list (assuming that it's the DS Tetris Attack/Pokemon Puzzle League).
Looking like a slow first half of the year for me, but I guess that's a good thing as I won't have a lot of time for games until July anyway with my school schedule.
chris_santucci
03-08-07, 11:35 AM
It's the best-selling console on the market and it's in short supply to say the least. I doubt that release list will remain sparse.
lordwow
03-08-07, 11:55 AM
It's the best-selling console on the market and it's in short supply to say the least. I doubt that release list will remain sparse.
Come on now, don't be a fanboy.
gimmepilotwings
03-08-07, 11:57 AM
apparently that Pokemon Wii is the first online game for the Wii, and also allows you to connect your DS to the Wii, as well as transfer your DS character to your Wii.
Fukking A, ill probably have to buy it strictly out of curiosity
Yep, me too. Any word of if it will communicate with Diamond/Pearl?
PixyJunket
03-08-07, 12:01 PM
Yep, me too. Any word of if it will communicate with Diamond/Pearl?Yes, that's kind of the point of the game, actually. ;)
slop101
03-08-07, 12:06 PM
Have I mentioned that I have a massive boner waiting for Super Paper Mario?
It might be the only worthwhile game on that list, but at least it comes out first.
CreatureX
03-08-07, 12:17 PM
Here is what I'll be getting!
Wii
April 9 / Super Paper Mario
May 29 / Mario Party 8
June 11 / Big Brain Academy
Nintendo DS
June 4 / Nintendo DS browser
June 4 / Planet Puzzle League
Oh yeah! :D
maingon
03-08-07, 12:29 PM
that mario game looks sweet
grim_tales
03-08-07, 12:53 PM
Have I mentioned that I have a massive boner waiting for Super Paper Mario?
It might be the only worthwhile game on that list, but at least it comes out first.
Fucking A. One of the reasons I'm getting a Wii ;)
KurrptSenate
03-08-07, 12:54 PM
yea, its specifically that new diamond/pearl that allows you to transfer your character.
I really don't anything about either the DS title, nor the Wii, but Ill probably wind up getting both for the "suppose" of it :lol:
Ocelot
03-08-07, 12:57 PM
Is that another Paper Mario game, i.e. RPG? I don't really like it on the GC... i wanna be able to control Mario like the Mario Bros games. If it's a RPG, i'm not getting it for my Wii... Pokemon for Wii? Maybe for the kids, i'll play something else...
Josh H
03-08-07, 01:01 PM
See above, Ocelot.
This one is different, as its just a platfomer with some minor RPG elements (i.e. Mario doesn't have all his abilities at the outset--e.g. you can't even run at the start of the game--you earn them as you go).
grim_tales
03-08-07, 01:05 PM
Hey,
Sorry for going over this again ;) But I've heard more speculation about GoldenEye coming to the Wii VC (or X Box Live...?) or both.
Goldeneye 007 is the game every proper N64 fan wants to see running in slick hi-res on the Wii's Virtual Console, but with all the licensing issues, can it ever happen?
Can any of Rare's own franchises appear on the VC? It's the question that we all want to know, so one avid rare fan took the next step by posting on a Q&A page on Rareware's website. And here's Rare's response in full:
"This is where we finally edge into territory that could see Scribes neutron bombed from management level. The only Rare-developed title on Virtual Console right now is the original Donkey Kong Country, and unofficially there's a strong likelihood that its sequels will follow.
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"But the Donkey Kong series of games is a Nintendo-owned franchise starring an established Nintendo character, whereas something like Banjo isn't (and even Diddy Kong Racing is less clear-cut), so it's nowhere near as easy to call.
"Especially when you also consider the existence of Xbox Live Arcade. So right now, the best answer we can offer (for either download service) is 'it's possible'. I like your sausage casserole mix, by the way."
Random sausage casserole reference aside, that's the state of play, so we can continue to dream.
Elsewhere on the Q&A page Rare's representative spoke more specifically about Goldeneye, explaining that it's "caught up in a convoluted web of rights", but that this "doesn't mean it won't happen, just that a lot of people with a lot of different perspectives are involved."
Who do we have to kidnap to make it happen, Rare? Just name names.
The fact that Diddy Kong Racing is coming to the DS could make it a wee bit more likely, I won't hold my breath though, as of course Nintendo, Microsoft, Rare, and Activision will have to battle it out re; GoldenEye.
Years ago when nintendo asked Rare to make donkey kong country, rare created other characters ie. kremlins, diddy, king r krooll etc
These characters have appeared in more games since and have become apart of the donkey kong universe and nintendo property (as in nintendo still use these characters in its games post the sale of Rare)
Now when Rare made DKR they did the same, creating characters for, which is still the donkey kong universe, these included two main ones
'Banjo' & 'Conker'. Now fast forward to Rares sale.
Rare have made another Conker game and a Banjo game is on its way for the xbox and the 360 respectively.
Banjo/Conker are Rare IP's right :confused: Maybe the DKR game won't include Banjo, Conker etc :)
Josh H
03-08-07, 01:08 PM
I doubt we'll see Goldeneye anywhere anytime soon due to all the rights issues.
I honestly can't say I care, the game doesn't hold up well at all. I played the absolute shit out of this back in the day, but it's pretty terrible by todays standards.
Now, if they can get shit worked out to do a full on remake for the 360, I'd be very interested.
spinning plates
03-08-07, 03:00 PM
the videos for SPM look awesome. no doubt i'm getting that. another massive boner over here.
darkside
03-08-07, 03:27 PM
Miyamoto's speech was a snoozer, but we already knew Nintendo was blocked from discussing anything new. Stupid stock sale.
kurupt
03-08-07, 03:44 PM
Super Paper Mario looks like the best game to come out in the next couple months on any system.
pinata242
03-08-07, 03:54 PM
Miyamoto's speech was a snoozer, but we already knew Nintendo was blocked from discussing anything new. Stupid stock sale.
1up bloggers even mentioned people leaving. WTF is that about?! It makes me weep.
darkside
03-08-07, 03:56 PM
1up bloggers even mentioned people leaving. WTF is that about?! It makes me weep.
I would never walk out on a legend, but from what I read it sounded pretty damn boring. They did show Super Mario Galaxy and confirm its a 2007 title. He also mentioned some lame Mii voting channel. Sony pretty much mopped the floor with Nintendo at this conference. However, it wasn't Nintendo's fault. Supposedly that stock sale blocked them from talking about new games.
pinata242
03-08-07, 04:26 PM
New Super Mario Galaxy trailer. Looks epic, I just hope it plays well.
That looks to be one of the best 3D marios to date.
cerial442
03-09-07, 12:53 AM
Hmmmm.....I don't know.
I'm going to have to wait and see more of the game play. Personally I think Super Paper Mario looks better (and I don't mean graphics wise) between the two.
tanman
03-09-07, 03:34 AM
Although on a graphics note it does seem to look quite a bit better then a gamecube game.
JimmySRU
03-09-07, 09:17 AM
I wish they would have done a nice side scrolling mario game these 3d games find the star games are tedious and I often lose interest
KurrptSenate
03-09-07, 09:23 AM
they did
Its called "New Super Mario Brothers"
PixyJunket
03-09-07, 09:24 AM
I wish they would have done a nice side scrolling mario game these 3d games find the star games are tedious and I often lose interestThere's one on the DS out now, New Super Mario Bros., and one coming soon for Wii, Super Paper Mario.
spainlinx0
03-09-07, 11:09 AM
The only thing I'm worried about is that Mario games need accurate button presses and moves, and I haven't noticed the Wii remote being pinpoint accurate for motion. Now maybe the game won't rely so much on the motion control aspect of it.
The game looks absolutely insane in that last trailer though.
PixyJunket
03-09-07, 11:16 AM
The only thing I'm worried about is that Mario games need accurate button presses and moves, and I haven't noticed the Wii remote being pinpoint accurate for motion. Now maybe the game won't rely so much on the motion control aspect of it.I think Mario works more with the pointing device, which I've found to be fairly solid (it hiccups when passing the remote around in Wario Ware simply because everyone has to center themselves to the sensor.. but I don't think that's going to be a problem in a single player Mario game, right?).
Josh H
03-09-07, 11:19 AM
I don't think the game will use the motion much. From what I've seen all it's used for is to point at stuff and shake it to do the twirl jump move which looks to only be used to launch yourself from planet to planet.
Though I'm sure they'll probably add in some more stuff (at least I hope--otherwise they should just make it a game for the GC controller and/or classic controller). But I all the normal running, jumping etc. should just be the analog stick and the A and B buttons on the Wiimote.
So it should basically be like Zelda where it's more or less just normal control with some use of waggle for some of the movies where it makes sense. I loved the control in that game, so I'm looking forward to this.
Michael Corvin
03-09-07, 12:04 PM
The only thing I'm worried about is that Mario games need accurate button presses and moves, and I haven't noticed the Wii remote being pinpoint accurate for motion. Now maybe the game won't rely so much on the motion control aspect of it.
During E3 of last year, everyone praised Mario Galaxy for the controls and how easy and accurate they were. And that was nearly a year ago. With an added year of dev time, they will probably be even tighter.
JimmySRU
03-09-07, 12:38 PM
I have new super mario bros for the DS and I Super Paper Mario is an RPG. I want a side scroller for the Wii
Josh H
03-09-07, 12:40 PM
Super Paper Mario isn't an RPG.
It's a platformer with some very lite RPG elements (earn the ability to run, fireballs etc.).
That said, I'd love some 2D games on any of the consoles, especially some 2D platformers as that's my favorite genre. But that is pretty much dead on the consoles, the DS is our only hope for those games.
pinata242
03-09-07, 01:26 PM
I have new super mario bros for the DS and I Super Paper Mario is an RPG. I want a side scroller for the Wii
Have you watched the videos in this thread for Super Paper Mario? Have you listened to the rep manning the booth talk about the game? It is a side-scrolling game, first and foremost...
StealthStratos
03-09-07, 01:52 PM
I'm a little disappointed about Super Paper Mario. I love side scrollers, especially with lite RPG elements (like Castlevania SOTN), but I was just hoping for a sequel more in line with the previous Paper Mario games. I loved Thousand Year Door and was hoping they'd stick to that overall style of gameplay. Still, if I can ever find a Wii at Best Buy (trying to use up store credit), I'll be picking up Super Paper Mario.
Not sure how I feel about Super Mario Galaxy at this point. The trailer looks pretty, but it almost looks a little too frenetic. All I see is Mario flying from one tiny planet to another. From the videos, it's hard to tell what the objectives are or how the player is supposed to know where to go next. I'm hoping there are actually big worlds to explore, rather than always just flying around in space.
abrg923
03-09-07, 01:58 PM
I'm a little disappointed about Super Paper Mario. I love side scrollers, especially with lite RPG elements (like Castlevania SOTN), but I was just hoping for a sequel more in line with the previous Paper Mario games. I loved Thousand Year Door and was hoping they'd stick to that overall style of gameplay. Still, if I can ever find a Wii at Best Buy (trying to use up store credit), I'll be picking up Super Paper Mario.
Not sure how I feel about Super Mario Galaxy at this point. The trailer looks pretty, but it almost looks a little too frenetic. All I see is Mario flying from one tiny planet to another. From the videos, it's hard to tell what the objectives are or how the player is supposed to know where to go next. I'm hoping there are actually big worlds to explore, rather than always just flying around in space.
Couldn't have said it better myself. This is my #1 fear for this game. I want a GOOD sequel to Mario 64, not another Super Mario Sunshine, where a gimmick makes a game less fun.
Josh H
03-09-07, 02:09 PM
I imagine the going around from planet to planet will be basically like jumping in paintings in Mario 64.
i.e. just how you get to new worlds, I doubt it's a major part of the game.
Nintendo is just notorious for not showing shit of their games before release.
PixyJunket
03-09-07, 02:44 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/771/771785p1.html
March 9, 2007 - The makers of Wish Room, Harvest Moon, Chulip, Final Fantasy XII and Dragon Quest VIII are teaming up for a new super project for the Wii. Project O (a tentative name, of course) has just started development at two southern Japanese development studios, Cing and Town Factory, to be published in Japan by Marvelous Interactive.
This title is already getting attention due to its growing list of development talent. Serving as producer is Marvelous Interactive's Yasuhiro Wada, general producer of the Harvest Moon series. The game's designer is Yoshiro Kimura, who worked on moon (PlayStation) and Chulip (PS2), and has signed on as a contractor for Marvelous in order to do this title. Another key member of the Harvest Moon series is also reportedly working on the game. Kimura also brought in Kazuyuki Kurashima, another staff member from the moon days.
Not enough for you? Well here are a couple of guys who's past games you'll definitely recognize. Project O's main programmer is Youichi Kawaguchi, the main programmer of Dragon Quest VIII. Serving as art director is Hideo Minaba, the art director of Final Fantsay XII. Minaba, incidentally, now works at Town Factory.
Wada and Kimura shared a handful of first details on the new project with Japan's Famitsu magazine. And by "handful," we really mean just a few! In fact, even after reading a three page interview, we're not 100% sure what the game is going to be like.
Wada revealed that his inspiration for Project O originally came from a Doraemon toy set. Similar to the "secret tools" that appear in the popular children's animation series, Wada imagined a tool that allows players to create a world, give it life, and observe the subsequent happenings. He likens this to the game Sim Earth. But in addition to a distant view of the world, he wanted to let players experience the world from the first person perspective of one of its residents. He likens this to Sim People.
Project O started with the idea of being a combination of Sim People and Sim Earth. But it's since become something a bit different, thanks to the influences Kimura took from Norikazu Yasunagano, who created World Neverland for the PlayStation back in 1997. That title was a "life simulation," where players could experience the relationships between artificial intelligence driven characters.
Which at long last brings us to a vague statement describing the kind of game we'll be getting with Project O. The game will combine the life simulation elements of World Neverland with the presentation of Kimura's own Chulip. On top of all that are simulation elements from Harvest Moon. The game will feature simulation, adventure and even a few real time action elements.
The simulation elements will push the Wii to the limit, promised Wada. When in the god's perspective, the game will display dozens of characters simultaneously, each moving using unique AI routines.
Another big point, mentioned Wada, is that on top of the simulation elements, the game will deliver the feeling of being part of a storyline. In the interview, he promised something different from any previous game. Kimura chimed in and noted that there's one exception: the Harvest Moon series. Kimura feels that Project O will be similar to Harvest Moon in that it will feature a loose storyline surrounding the simulation gameplay.
If all this seems conceptual, that's because it may just be. The game is currently being worked on by just the six staffers mentioned here, with the hunt currently on for the seventh staff member, a musician. Marvelous has also started seeking designers, programmers, planners and assistant directors for the game proper, and has placed a big two page advertisement in this week's Famitsu.
We're going to have to wait until 2008 to play this potential dream project for the Wii.
DodgingCars
03-09-07, 03:07 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/771/771785p1.html
Official Site (Japanese)
http://www.mmv.co.jp/special/game/wii/project_o/
Josh H
03-09-07, 03:21 PM
I hate sim games, so I'll be skipping that one.
maingon
03-09-07, 03:28 PM
Mario Galaxy has some really good looking graphics, dont know how it will play, from the video looks too wierd. I like my classic mario. I didnt care for Sunshine. Super paper mario looks awesome though
DodgingCars
03-09-07, 03:32 PM
I hate sim games, so I'll be skipping that one.
For me it depends on the game. I got bored with The Sims (original), but used to love Sim City. I know part of their appeal is the open-endedness of them, but I actually think it makes them boring. There has to be some goals and strategies to accomplishing the goals. I mean, The Sims had that in some sense where you "advance" by making friends, studying, exercising, etc., but it became way to mundane and repetitive, and then ultimately boring.
At least with a game like Sim City, you are building and are able to see the results of your accomplishments pretty quickly.
If they find a good balance, I'll definately be interested.
Josh H
03-09-07, 03:37 PM
I've never liked any of them I've tried. Sims, Sim City, Harvest Moon or even something lite like Animal Crossing.
They just bore me to tears.
KurrptSenate
03-09-07, 03:38 PM
yea, that was basically my problem with animal crossing. what starts out as fun, quickly turns into a chore, and you question why you've even purchased the title in the first place
jeffdsmith
03-09-07, 03:49 PM
Seems to me that with Paper Mario and Galaxy this year people will be treated to classic and new Mario playing styles. Try it before judging it; after all everone proclaimed Nintendo would ruin Mario/Metroid/Zelda etc. by going to 3d, until they shut up and played the games...
Josh H
03-09-07, 03:52 PM
...after all everone proclaimed Nintendo would ruin Mario/Metroid/Zelda etc. by going to 3d, until they shut up and played the games...
That's an over generalization. While they aren't ruined, the 3D Mario's and especially the 3D Metroids are a far cry from their 2D counter parts. I've not revisited any of the 3D versions when I've played the shit out of the 2D games and still play them to this day.
Zelda, on the other had, was a raging success in 3D, with TP and OoT being the pinnacles of the series IMO.
PixyJunket
03-09-07, 04:07 PM
after all everone proclaimed Nintendo would ruin Mario/Metroid/Zelda etc. by going to 3d, until they shut up and played the games...I'm guilty of that on all three counts.
Many years later (well, maybe one year later in the case of Metroid) I was served three warm plates of crow.
lordwow
03-09-07, 04:11 PM
yea, that was basically my problem with animal crossing. what starts out as fun, quickly turns into a chore, and you question why you've even purchased the title in the first place
Agreed. I loved AC for about 2 weeks, then I realized it was the same as doing the dishes. Not really that fun but you do it anyway.
DodgingCars
03-09-07, 04:19 PM
Agreed. I loved AC for about 2 weeks, then I realized it was the same as doing the dishes. Not really that fun but you do it anyway.
That's why I've been afraid of AC (haven't played it yet). I was afraid that there wouldn't be enough to do. I'd like some of these games to have more goals to "advance" -- to actually feel like you're accomplishing something.
KurrptSenate
03-09-07, 04:41 PM
you wind up spending all your time procuring some frigging furniture set, then realizing you didn't spend 10 minutes picking out the actual living room set in your house. Weird
I hated all the 3d zeldas, but loved the 3D metroids :lol:
grim_tales
03-10-07, 04:08 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself. This is my #1 fear for this game. I want a GOOD sequel to Mario 64, not another Super Mario Sunshine, where a gimmick makes a game less fun.
Sunshine was OK, but it disappointed me. That stupid water pack actually made the game feel less fun, and ironically the best sections were the challanges where you had to go to the end of the course with out a water pack, IMO.
I still enjoyed the game though.
Michael Corvin
03-10-07, 08:53 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself. This is my #1 fear for this game. I want a GOOD sequel to Mario 64, not another Super Mario Sunshine, where a gimmick makes a game less fun.
I'm still waiting on a lot of GOOD sequels to N64 games. I felt nearly ALL continued franchises on the Gamecube were inferior to their N64 brethren.
Mario 64 > Sunshine
Mario Kart 64 > Double Dash
Mario Golf 64 > Toadstool Tour
Mario Party 1 & 2 > MP 3-5(haven't given 6&7 a spin yet)
Waverace 64 > Blue Storm
Zelda: OoT > Wind Waker
F-Zero GX was the only sequel that surpassed the N64 title, IMO. Fortunately Nintendo brought us new franchises like Pikmin and Luigi's Mansion and revisited forgotten classics, Metroid Prime.
grim_tales
03-10-07, 09:25 AM
Paper Mario: TTYD surpassed the N64 original, IMO. :)
RichC2
03-10-07, 12:53 PM
I'm still waiting on a lot of GOOD sequels to N64 games. I felt nearly ALL continued franchises on the Gamecube were inferior to their N64 brethren.
Mario 64 > Sunshine
Mario Kart 64 > Double Dash
Mario Golf 64 > Toadstool Tour
Mario Party 1 & 2 > MP 3-5(haven't given 6&7 a spin yet)
Waverace 64 > Blue Storm
Zelda: OoT > Wind Waker
F-Zero GX was the only sequel that surpassed the N64 title, IMO. Fortunately Nintendo brought us new franchises like Pikmin and Luigi's Mansion and revisited forgotten classics, Metroid Prime.
I'd have to disagree on Mario Kart (I didn't care for Double Dash, but the courses were much better than the 64 snooze fest) and Waverace (I liked Blue Storm more), but you're spot on with the rest (save for Mario Party, which I haven't played through).
Didn't care for Pikmin/Luigi's Mansion so much but Metroid Prime made the system for me (didn't like Echoes) and is the best entry in the series imo, and Wind Waker may of been no OoT but was fantastic in its own right (hell nothing has lived up to OoT yet).
chess
03-11-07, 01:55 AM
I'm still waiting on a lot of GOOD sequels to N64 games. I felt nearly ALL continued franchises on the Gamecube were inferior to their N64 brethren.
Mario 64 > Sunshine
Mario Kart 64 > Double Dash
Mario Golf 64 > Toadstool Tour
Mario Party 1 & 2 > MP 3-5(haven't given 6&7 a spin yet)
Waverace 64 > Blue Storm
Zelda: OoT > Wind Waker
F-Zero GX was the only sequel that surpassed the N64 title, IMO. Fortunately Nintendo brought us new franchises like Pikmin and Luigi's Mansion and revisited forgotten classics, Metroid Prime.
I have as much nostalgia as anyone for the N64, but aside from 3-4 huge titles, it was a wasteland of a console. The Gamecube has a much better library in just about every regard, and I even disagree on most of the sequels you mention.
Mario 64 is better than Sunshine, but it's also better than just about any platformer made since as well. Sunshine was a very fun variation on Mario, but was admittedly much less accessible.
I like Double Dash better than 64...I like the handbrake better than the hop and I like the tracks better.
Mario Golf? :shrug: Pretty much the same...but the cube added other Mario sports titles, including the absurdly fun Mario Strikers and the pretty good Mario Baseball.
I'm hardly an expert on Mario Party...but they all sort of seem the same to me.
Blue Storm > Wave Race
As for Zelda, Twilight Princess > Ocarina of Time > Wind Waker > Majora's Mask...I'd call it a wash with all but Majora being absolutely brilliant
Starfox Assault > Starfox 64
Rogue Squadron II > Rogue Squadron
Metroid Prime >>>>>>> no Metroid
Jeremy517
03-11-07, 03:33 AM
The N64 easily wins the platformer battle.
N64: Banjo-Kazooie, Banjo-Tooie, Mario 64, Donkey Kong 64, Space Station Silicon Valley, plus arguably a few others
Gamecube: Mario Sunshine, arguably Wario World, and not much else.
I like the N64 Zeldas better on average, with Majora's Mask > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time >>> Twilight Princess
lordwow
03-11-07, 10:58 AM
Rogue Squadron II > Rogue Squadron > Rogue Squadron III
Fixed.
maingon
03-11-07, 12:44 PM
The N64 easily wins the platformer battle.
N64: Banjo-Kazooie, Banjo-Tooie, Mario 64, Donkey Kong 64, Space Station Silicon Valley, plus arguably a few others
Gamecube: Mario Sunshine, arguably Wario World, and not much else.
I like the N64 Zeldas better on average, with Majora's Mask > Wind Waker > Ocarina of Time >>> Twilight Princess
Besides Mario 64 I find the platformers like Donkey kong 64, Banjo games havent aged well. So slow. and pretty much all about collecting items. I tried to play them recently and found them to be pretty boring compared to todays platformers.
Josh H
03-11-07, 12:51 PM
I'd probably give the GC a slight edge over the N64 as well, but both were pretty poor systems in the long run due to the lack of third party exclusives that I enjoyed. Nintendo's games are great, but they can only make so many a year and keep the quality up.
As for the game discussion.
Mario 64 is much better than Sunshine (though it is still good)
Twilight Princess I liked a good bit better than OoT or MM, but Wind Waker is probably my least favorite Zelda.
Mario Kart 64 I liked better than Double Dash (The DS game is much better than either though)
Mario Party's and Mario Sports titles I don't care for on either.
Rogue Squadron II is the best in the series by far.
Wave Race: BS is better than the first--their more or less the same and the GC game looks much better.
And the GC has some nice exclusive series that give it an edge too with stuff like the RE 1 and 0, Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime and so on.
But the biggest thing is graphics. While everyone knows I'm far from a graphics whore, first gen 3D console graphics (N64/PS1) are pretty tough on the eyes and I really can't stand to play those games today. So the GC has the advantage of having games that will hold up visually, and thus I can see my self playing some of these games in 10 years just like I still play SNES games a lot but rarely touch any NES games.
chess
03-11-07, 02:33 PM
Oh, forgot above...
Melee > SSB
slop101
03-11-07, 05:24 PM
As for me, I lilke the SNES iterations of the big franchises over either their N64 or Cube versions.
Mario World/All-Stars > Mario64 > Mario Sunshine
Zelda Link to the past > OoT/MM > WW/TP
Super Metroid > Metriod Prime
Donkey Kong Countries > DK64
etc.
DodgingCars
03-11-07, 06:03 PM
As for me, I lilke the SNES iterations of the big franchises over either their N64 or Cube versions.
Mario World/All-Stars > Mario64 > Mario Sunshine
Zelda Link to the past > OoT/MM > WW/TP
Super Metroid > Metriod Prime
Donkey Kong Countries > DK64
etc.
I think for their time, but some games haven't aged well. I still like to play old games (especially on a handheld), but I have to admit, like Josh, I'm not a graphics whore, but some of those older games are hard to look at. :)
(Un)Fortunately I never owned a N64 or GC, so I can vist all of them for the first time. I am actually excited at exploring the GC library (which is vast, despite to lack of 3rd party support -- 700 titles, I believe, with well over 100 scoring 80% or higher in metareviews).
It's funny how people point to GC's failure. Failure compared to the PS2? Sure. Failure compared to the SNES and NES? Ok. But really, Xbox didn't sell that much more than the GC and people don't generally call the Xbox a failure. It may have come in 3rd, but it was a close 3rd... and both the GC and Xbox were just REALLY far behind the PS2.
Josh H
03-11-07, 06:41 PM
As for me, I lilke the SNES iterations of the big franchises over either their N64 or Cube versions.
Mario World/All-Stars > Mario64 > Mario Sunshine
Zelda Link to the past > OoT/MM > WW/TP
Super Metroid > Metriod Prime
Donkey Kong Countries > DK64
etc.
110%. In a drunken stupor I caved to the overpricing and got Super Mario Wold, Super Castlevania IV and Link to the Past on the virtual console last night. :D
The SNES is far and away my favorite system of all time, and the one I'd want on a desert island.
SNES games hold up fine, they are second gen 2D graphics and still look good today, as the 2nd gen 3D games (GC, PS2, X-box) will similarly hold up. It's the first gen 2D (atari, NES, SMS etc.) and first gen 3D (N64/PS1) games that I could go the rest of my life without looking at again.
slop101
03-11-07, 07:46 PM
I think for their time, but some games haven't aged well. I still like to play old games (especially on a handheld), but I have to admit, like Josh, I'm not a graphics whore, but some of those older games are hard to look at. :)
Maybe for the 8-bit NES, but I think the hand-drawn sprites for the SNES look just fine now, and haven't really aged (mostly because huge strides in 2D gaming having really been achieved since then). They hold up a hell of a lot better than the blocky polygons and blurry textures of the N64.
DodgingCars
03-11-07, 08:18 PM
Maybe for the 8-bit NES, but I think the hand-drawn sprites for the SNES look just fine now, and haven't really aged (mostly because huge strides in 2D gaming having really been achieved since then). They hold up a hell of a lot better than the blocky polygons and blurry textures of the N64.
Yeah, the NES is the one I have the most experience with. I think I've only played 3 games on the SNES. :)
Josh H
03-11-07, 08:30 PM
Yeah, the NES is the one I have the most experience with. I think I've only played 3 games on the SNES. :)
Then the virtual console is going to be a lot of fun for you!
zero
03-11-07, 10:58 PM
I've been waiting for new footage of Mario Galaxy since E3, the demo was incredible. I've played every Mario platformer, and Sunshine was my favorite. I can easily see MG replacing that game. Something I noticed in the trailer though, the star pointer is not present at all times. In the E3 demo a small star is always on screen, as a small fairy is present in Zelda when using the Wii-mote. I'm glad that we finally get two Mario adventures in the same year and not five years apart.
pinata242
03-12-07, 08:54 AM
Nothing for me this week, but Tecmo Bowl should make some nostalgists very happy.
Tecmo Bowl™ (NES®, 1-2 players, 500 Wii Points): Tecmo Bowl pits the player versus the computer in 11-game, single-elimination playoff action. Players also can go head-to-head with a human opponent in action or coach mode. The player can select from 12 teams. On offense there are usually two run and two pass plays to choose from. The player takes control of the quarterback before the snap and then either hands off to the running back or works through his receiver progression from the top to the bottom of the screen. Defense consists of trying to guess which offensive play the opponent will select and then taking control of one of the defensive players before the snap. A very simple power-meter system is used for kicking field goals, extra points and punts.
Sonic Spinball™ (Sega Genesis, 1-4 players, 800 Wii Points): Dr. Eggman (aka Dr. Robotnik) has taken over Mt. Mobius and turned it into a mechanical base. He is using energy from the magma flowing under the volcano to power his Veg-O-Fortress. He has the power to transform helpless animals into robots. Sonic the Hedgehog must take down this fortress to free the enslaved animals. The only way to make that happen is to trigger an eruption in the volcano it's built on. Sonic knows this can be done by removing the Chaos Emeralds that keep the volcano stable. Dr. Eggman, however, is also aware of the fragile relationship that exists between the emeralds and the mountain, and he's set up an elaborate Pinball Defense System to make sure the precious jewels don't go anywhere.
Double Dungeons (TurboGrafx16, 1-2 players, 600 Wii Points): Double Dungeons is a dungeon role-playing game that features smooth-scrolling 3-D game play. Two players can play at the same time, which makes this game truly stand out from the rest. There are 22 unique scenarios, spread out among six levels. The higher the level is, the harder the scenario. Because each scenario is independent, players can choose to start the game from any scenario other than the final one. Players defeat monsters in each dungeon to gain experience while searching for the "key" that opens the door to the room with the boss. They buy equipment at the shop, team up with characters and defeat the boss to clear a scenario. Players must conquer all 21 scenarios from levels 1 through 5 to obtain passwords. If they obtain all of them, they make their way to the final scenario!
PixyJunket
03-12-07, 09:09 AM
Double Dungeons! I might just grab that one, I have good memories of playing that co-op.
kurupt
03-12-07, 09:19 AM
Does Tecmo Bowl have the real "classic" teams (i.e. Bears w/ Payton and the Browns w/ QB Browns) or is it the Red team vs. the Blue team?
pinata242
03-12-07, 09:20 AM
Does Tecmo Bowl have the real "classic" teams (i.e. Bears w/ Payton and the Browns w/ QB Browns) or is it the Red team vs. the Blue team?
The description above says there are 12 teams to pick from, if that answers your question.
LOS ANGELES, California (Hollywood Reporter) -- Nintendo Co. Ltd is developing a new channel for its Wii console that will allow gamers to compare their Miis -- customized virtual avatars that people can play in Wii video games.
During a speech at the Game Developers Conference in San Francisco, Nintendo game creator Shigero Miyamoto said the channel, to launch soon, will enable gamers not only to share their custom avatars, but to vote on them in popularity contests, adding another level of stickiness to the online functionality of Nintendo's $250 next-generation console.
Wii also has channels that deliver real-time news and weather to gamers, who can also purchase and download classic Nintendo, Sega, Neo Geo and TurboGrafix 16 games for $5 to $10 each.
Miyamoto, the creator of such game characters as Donkey Kong, Mario and Link, pointed out that the video game industry, including himself, has been wrong for years.
He noted that with each new console, controls became more complex and games more difficult to play. The games business was alienating the very audience they were trying to attract.
But the success of Nintendo DS and Wii, Miyamoto said, shows that simple, fun gameplay experiences, not high-definition graphics and photorealism, are the keys to growing the video game audience. Both consoles have been sold quickly at retail.
Nintendo DS, with games like "Nintendogs" and "Brain Age," has attracted nontraditional gamers and hardcore fans with its dual touch-screen pads. Wii, which allows players to interact physically with games like "Wii Sports" and "Excite Truck," has opened gaming up to more female players and older gamers.
Miyamoto said the first new "Mario" game for Wii, "Super Mario Galaxy," is due this year.
Quack
03-12-07, 10:21 AM
Anyone planning on picking up Tiger Woods '07? I've been thinking about it....it comes out tomorrow.
KurrptSenate
03-12-07, 10:27 AM
i think my brother is. I want to see how it is before I pick it up
Quack
03-12-07, 11:04 AM
Also is there a final date for Mario Party 8 yet? I've heard June, May, April, any ideas?
pinata242
03-12-07, 11:06 AM
May 29th is the date they gave us at GDC.
fumanstan
03-12-07, 12:19 PM
Nintendo with a "Hot or Not" channel :)
DodgingCars
03-12-07, 12:22 PM
May 29th is the date they gave us at GDC.
Yep. It's in their press release:
http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=11634
DodgingCars
03-12-07, 12:23 PM
According to the official site for Battalion Wars 2, it will have online play:
Online Multiplayer: The battle wages online in three modes: Assault, Skirmish and Co-op. Fight with or against others in land, sea and air combat.
PixyJunket
03-12-07, 12:25 PM
There's a company that's been releasing English translated MSX games recently.. http://www.woomb.net/, apparently the company they are partnered with is the company responsible for handling the MSX Virtual Console in Japan. So, it certainly seems like a possibility that these games may end up on our shores and a good number of them have never been released here on other systems.
MovieExchange
03-12-07, 12:59 PM
Miyamoto, the creator of such game characters as Donkey Kong, Mario and Link, pointed out that the video game industry, including himself, has been wrong for years.
He noted that with each new console, controls became more complex and games more difficult to play. The games business was alienating the very audience they were trying to attract.
Damn straight. When I finally picked up a PS2 last year, I grabbed a WWE Raw vs. Smackdown game of some sort because I had fond memories of the old wrestling games on the PS1. I decided it'd be easiest to look up the moves online, and I was stunned as I saw that each character had pages upon pages of moves. How the hell am I supposed to memorize all this crap? OK, opponent lying down, hit left and X... shit, he got up while I was doing that... left and X was useless, I needed to be hitting right and O. OW! STOP HITTING ME!!!!! LET ME LOOK UP A MOVE!!!!
darkside
03-12-07, 01:10 PM
Does Tecmo Bowl have the real "classic" teams (i.e. Bears w/ Payton and the Browns w/ QB Browns) or is it the Red team vs. the Blue team?
This was definitely going to be my first VC purchase, but I'm wondering about this. If they still have all the real players in the game I will buy it.
darkside
03-12-07, 01:15 PM
Anyone planning on picking up Tiger Woods '07? I've been thinking about it....it comes out tomorrow.
If the controls are good I will pick it up. I'll probably do the rental thing first. I rented Sonic and the Secret Rings and really didn't like it enough to buy it. It was decent, but I'm still finding tilt controls to be lacking.
Josh H
03-12-07, 01:23 PM
Tiger Woods got an 7.5, 8.0, 6.5 in EGM. As for controls they complain about the lack for putting and the back swing being shacky sometimes and causing problems but overall seem to dig it. There's a normal analog swing option as well for those that don't like the motion control
If the normal analog swing is there I will consider getting it, however, if its identical to the Xbox version with normal analog swing I forgot I already own Tiger 07. :lol:
Having played Sonic I agree with the guys giving it 6.0. It really is only a good game when compared to the other Sonic disasters. The reviewers at EGM are pretty much mirroring my feelings about the Wii game lineup to this point. Very, very underwhelmed with Wiicontrols in 3rd party games.
Josh H
03-12-07, 01:34 PM
Yeah, I agree they've been spot on. I've not bought anything other than Zelda at launch, and don't plan to buy anything until Super Paper Mario.
I just don't have the time or money to waste on mediocre post launch games. I'm doing a good job of avoiding falling into the trap of buying these titles that snagged me in past console launches. :D
Jeremy517
03-12-07, 01:42 PM
The IGN preview for Tiger Woods makes it sound like the swing control isn't even as good as golf in Wii Sports.
DodgingCars
03-12-07, 01:48 PM
Yeah, I agree they've been spot on. I've not bought anything other than Zelda at launch, and don't plan to buy anything until Super Paper Mario.
I just don't have the time or money to waste on mediocre post launch games. I'm doing a good job of avoiding falling into the trap of buying these titles that snagged me in past console launches. :D
So far I've only bought Zelda and Wii Play. I'd consider getting Excite Truck and Warioware when the prices drop though.
If Tiger Woods gets good reviews, I'll definately consider buying it, otherwise Super Paper Mario will be my next Wii purchase.
I still haven't played Rayman or Elebits though. Or Red Steel, for that matter.
DodgingCars
03-12-07, 01:50 PM
This was definitely going to be my first VC purchase, but I'm wondering about this. If they still have all the real players in the game I will buy it.
according to Wikipedia:
Tecmo Bowl contains twelve teams, each equipped with four plays. Most teams have two running plays and two passing plays. The exceptions are San Francisco and Miami who have three passing plays and one running play, and Los Angeles (Raiders), who have three running plays.
Tecmo, Inc. was not able to get the NFL's consent to use real team names. As a result, the teams in the game are identified solely by their home city or state. However, each roster conveniently mimics that of the NFL team based out of the same city or state.
The teams mimicked in the game are the Indianapolis Colts, the Miami Dolphins, the Cleveland Browns, the Denver Broncos, the Seattle Seahawks, the Los Angeles Raiders, the Washington Redskins, the San Francisco 49ers, the Dallas Cowboys, the New York Giants, the Chicago Bears, and the Minnesota Vikings. These teams were chosen because they are the teams that went to the playoffs that year.
darkside
03-12-07, 02:15 PM
according to Wikipedia:
Tecmo Bowl contains twelve teams, each equipped with four plays. Most teams have two running plays and two passing plays. The exceptions are San Francisco and Miami who have three passing plays and one running play, and Los Angeles (Raiders), who have three running plays.
Tecmo, Inc. was not able to get the NFL's consent to use real team names. As a result, the teams in the game are identified solely by their home city or state. However, each roster conveniently mimics that of the NFL team based out of the same city or state.
The teams mimicked in the game are the Indianapolis Colts, the Miami Dolphins, the Cleveland Browns, the Denver Broncos, the Seattle Seahawks, the Los Angeles Raiders, the Washington Redskins, the San Francisco 49ers, the Dallas Cowboys, the New York Giants, the Chicago Bears, and the Minnesota Vikings. These teams were chosen because they are the teams that went to the playoffs that year.
I remember this, but they did license the real players. Hopefully they will be in this version as well.
Obey The D
03-12-07, 03:00 PM
I remember this, but they did license the real players. Hopefully they will be in this version as well.
Just read on the Nintendo forums that not all players are in the game, but stars such as Marino, and Bo Jackson are.
The one thing I forgot about this game is that, unlike Super Tecmo Bowl, there is no season mode. Oh well, I guess I'll have to be content with rushing for 600+ yards with Bo.......in one game. :)
KurrptSenate
03-12-07, 03:08 PM
they have barry sanders and hershel walker as well...
about as good as Peyton, actually
Mike singleterry (sp) is excellent on D, so Bears are always a good choice
PixyJunket
03-12-07, 03:12 PM
I think Tecmo Super Bowl was the one that had the NFL teams.
KurrptSenate
03-12-07, 03:15 PM
tecmo bowl (original) had the teams, but instead of saying "49ers" they would just have san francisco.
they do have montana passing the football, and ronny lott returning kicks
Shadow Ace
03-12-07, 03:16 PM
I've really been looking forward to Tiger '07, I just hope the controls aren't as dreadful as some reviews have indicated. I'll probably pick it up this weekend.
Tecmo Bowl....I'll be getting as soon as I get home tonight! Then I can tell my son, who's used to all the fancy graphics of Madden, etc. that this is the way we played back in my day. Hey, it looks a heck of a lot better then the Atari 2600 sports titles!
Anyone planning on picking up Tiger Woods '07? I've been thinking about it....it comes out tomorrow.
darkside
03-12-07, 03:23 PM
tecmo bowl (original) had the teams, but instead of saying "49ers" they would just have san francisco.
they do have montana passing the football, and ronny lott returning kicks
Cool. Then it is the original game. I was worried they might have trouble with the NFL Players license.
BTW, I would play this and Super Tecmo Bowl over any of the Maddens.
KurrptSenate
03-12-07, 03:25 PM
yea, im in the same boat. I'm more apt to play classic nes sports game compared to their "next-gen" counterparts
Michael Corvin
03-12-07, 03:26 PM
I've really been looking forward to Tiger '07, I just hope the controls aren't as dreadful as some reviews have indicated. I'll probably pick it up this weekend.
After all the reviews since & including launch, I think I'm going to just ignore anything pertaining to controls. They are all over the map on every game. I'll just read reviews based on the game itself and judge the controls myself.
Josh H
03-12-07, 03:31 PM
After all the reviews since & including launch, I think I'm going to just ignore anything pertaining to controls. They are all over the map on every game. I'll just read reviews based on the game itself and judge the controls myself.
The key is to find a reviewer (or review source) you tend to agree with on it.
The reviews from site to site/magazine to magazine have been all over the place. But it seems like within site/magazine they've been pretty consistent.
For me EGM/1up.com have been pretty spot on as I too have just not liked most of the motion control stuff I've played thus far outside of Zelda and Wiisports.
Obey The D
03-12-07, 03:32 PM
Mike singleterry (sp) is excellent on D, so Bears are always a good choice
Singletary is indeed good in this one. I also hope Sweetness is one of the players who were included in the virtual console version.
Speaking of great LB's, is it Tecmo Bowl or Super Tecmo Bowl where you can basically block every single extra point/field goal attempt with LT?
shumway
03-12-07, 03:37 PM
I know I'm part of the minority, but, I always enjoyed NES Play Action Football much much more than Tecmo Bowl or Tecmo Super Bowl.
Obey The D
03-12-07, 03:41 PM
I know I'm part of the minority, but, I always enjoyed NES Play Action Football much much more than Tecmo Bowl or Tecmo Super Bowl.
OMG, I played the HELL out of Tecmo Bowl back in the day. I'm very tempted to download that one and grab the old NES controller.
And I agree with darkside, I would much rather play Tecmo Bowl than any of the new Madden games. As someone who isn't football crazy, the near simulation that is Madden just goes way over my head. I feel like you really have to know all about football to do well with Madden, rather than just be a good gamer.
Patman
03-12-07, 04:34 PM
Whoa, this Tecmo download may just make be get into VC's.
What he said. Tecmo Super Bowl will always be the best football game of all time.
darkside
03-12-07, 06:53 PM
Just downloaded this and they did go in and remove all the player names. Still a fun game, but this ruins the experience a tiny bit. I think I would rather play my unaltered version on my emulator.
tpc
03-12-07, 08:10 PM
Grabbed Tecmo Bowl and Donkey Kong Country... two of my favorite games of all time.
I was immediately disappointed by the lack of player names, but the game is still a blast.
Hulkabrgr
03-12-07, 08:44 PM
Just downloaded and played Tecmo Bowl. As fun as it was, I always remembered loving Super Tecmo Bowl even more on the NES. Hopefully, that one is coming soon
Shadow Ace
03-12-07, 09:22 PM
I downloaded Tecmo Bowl as well. It's as fun as I remember it being, but the lack of names does diminish it just a bit. I talked my son, who whips me in every modern game, into playing a game against me. I promptly stomped on him 55-0 (I missed one field goal messing around). He'll never play against me again, and complained the whole time how much the game "sucked". What a difference 17 years in game development makes.
darkside
03-12-07, 11:52 PM
Just downloaded and played Tecmo Bowl. As fun as it was, I always remembered loving Super Tecmo Bowl even more on the NES. Hopefully, that one is coming soon
If they couldn't get the NFL Players license for this one there is no way they can get the NFL and NFL players licenses for Super Tecmo Bowl. I doubt they would take the time to alter everything in the game so its doubtful it could ever come to the VC.
I played several games of Tecmo Bowl tonight and it is still a blast (go dynasty 49ers). I really love the Classic Controller so all in all it was worth the 500 points which in real money for me was about $3.75 since I picked up my cards for $15.
Now if they want the rest of my points they will hurry up and release Super Metroid and Super Mario RPG.
Patman
03-13-07, 12:41 AM
Is Super Swing Golf a deal at $30 (on sale next week at Best Buy)?
sdcrym
03-13-07, 01:11 AM
If they couldn't get the NFL Players license for this one there is no way they can get the NFL and NFL players licenses for Super Tecmo Bowl. I doubt they would take the time to alter everything in the game so its doubtful it could ever come to the VC.
I played several games of Tecmo Bowl tonight and it is still a blast (go dynasty 49ers). I really love the Classic Controller so all in all it was worth the 500 points which in real money for me was about $3.75 since I picked up my cards for $15.
Now if they want the rest of my points they will hurry up and release Super Metroid and Super Mario RPG.
Where did you get your cards for $15?
Josh H
03-13-07, 01:21 AM
I've finally knocked the dust off the Wii playing Resident Evil 4 (GC) and some VC games the past few days.
I'm still having a love/hate affair with RE4. It's very good, but it just feels "off." With the new action oriented design (rather than the scary survival horror design of the past games) the still cluncky (though improved) controls and still semi-scarce ammo just don't feel right and kind of annoy me.
I think part of the problem is playing this after Gears of War which is just a much better 3rd person shooter IMO...I guess I'm kind of wishing the game just either played more like that, or you had more ability to run away rather than killing everything as in past RE games.
My other gripe is a typical one from me, the game is just too fucking hard. :p If there was an easy mode, I'd already be in it. I just beat the third boss and finished up chapter 2 and saved at the beginning of chapter 3-1. My death count is at like 37, and is actually higher since I've had several times where I saved, died a bunch and just turned it off to come back and try again later.
My biggest gripe is a lot of deaths are in little staged sequences where it's just sheer trial and error to either figure out what to do (i.e. the truck running down the hill at you) or memorizing where enemies are to shoot them (i.e. the cable car section).
But I'm still having fun with it, though I'm starting to doubt if I'll finish it. Definitely need to look at some faqs to get some tips on weapon purchases upgrades, I'm hording some money now mainly in case I need first aid sprays later on and want to make sure I don't waste it on useless upgrades or weapons.
As for the Virtual Console, I've been playing a lot of Super Mario World. Man I love that game, either my favorite or second favorite game of all time (Super Metroid being the other--pretty much a toss up here). I've played this game countless times before, and this time actually figured out some stuff I hadn't before by using the blue Yoshi to open up the Special World before finding the blue switch palace--and also to open the star road early in the 3rd world. Hard to believe I hadn't found that before given how many times I've beat the game with the full 96 exits!
I've also been playing a little Super Castlevania IV. Haven't played enough to say much about it, but so far it isn't as good as I remembered. Finally, I also downloaded A Link to the Past, but haven't touched it yet. That will have to wait until at least after finishing SMW.
Josh H
03-13-07, 01:22 AM
Is Super Swing Golf a deal at $30 (on sale next week at Best Buy)?
It's an ok deal, but I can't imagine it will be much longer (2 or 3 months I'd guess) until we see it and some of the other third party games at $20.
eatntae
03-13-07, 02:42 AM
Josh, regarding RE4, unless you completely go off a FAQ, I recommend you buy the treasure maps from the merchants. If I remember correctly, they give you the location of valuable treasures that you can sell back for a lot of money. I remember the first time I played it, I was stingy with my money, but found out it was worth it to get those maps.
kakihara1
03-13-07, 09:17 AM
Patman, I think Super Swing Golf for $30 is a steal. I freakin love the game and even at $50 I thought it was well worth it. Although I think I'm in the minority here as I've heard almost no praise for the game on these forums.
Patman
03-13-07, 09:21 AM
JH, Kakihara1, thanks for the feedback on Super Swing Golf. I reckon with Tiger Woods 2007 now on Wii (tomorrow), SSG was probably ripe for a markdown, even temporarily.
pinata242
03-13-07, 09:24 AM
Patman, I think Super Swing Golf for $30 is a steal. I freakin love the game and even at $50 I thought it was well worth it. Although I think I'm in the minority here as I've heard almost no praise for the game on these forums.
I agree. However, I only spent like $8 of my own money on it after PM and GC, but I got nearly 100 hours of single player out of it alone. If I had people to play with, the value would have skyrocketed.
There's a ton to do there to keep you busy and if the swing controls don't work for you (and they're perfectly fine if you don't swing too fast), there's always a standard button control to fall back on.
$30 is a steal and with the coupon sheet Corvin linked to from CAG (http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coupons1hf5.jpg) in the Xbox thread, you can get it for $25.
chess
03-13-07, 09:33 AM
Josh, regarding RE4, unless you completely go off a FAQ, I recommend you buy the treasure maps from the merchants. If I remember correctly, they give you the location of valuable treasures that you can sell back for a lot of money. I remember the first time I played it, I was stingy with my money, but found out it was worth it to get those maps.
Yes, the maps easily pay for themselves.
Buying the right weapons also goes a long way. Buying the latest weapon they give you isn't always the best idea. After playing with all of them, I like the Red 9 (most powerful basic gun), the Striker (fastest shotgun), and the Broken Butterfly (most powerful and free)...all upgraded to the teeth.
Easily one of my top 10 of all time...and I thought the difficulty level was just enough to keep you on edge without making you want to huck your controller through the TV. I'm with Josh on one thing though. I hated those button pressing exercises in cutscreens. Ugh.
Anyway, hope you stick with it Josh.
darkside
03-13-07, 09:51 AM
Where did you get your cards for $15?
Best Buy with their $5 off coupons. Those coupons are getting hard to find now. I still have two left.
darkside
03-13-07, 09:54 AM
Easily one of my top 10 of all time...and I thought the difficulty level was just enough to keep you on edge without making you want to huck your controller through the TV.
Anyway, hope you stick with it Josh.
I agree. I thought they had the difficulty pretty well balanced. The thing you have to do though is manage your weapons and ammo. I need to play this game again. I have the Chicago Typewritter unlocked and it would be fun to blow through it again.
Josh H
03-13-07, 10:03 AM
I agree. I thought they had the difficulty pretty well balanced. The thing you have to do though is manage your weapons and ammo.
I think the difficulty of the boss battles and regular enemies etc. is fine, there's just a few trial and error places that have had me want to chuck the wavebird through the TV. :D
The managing weapons and ammo annoys the piss out of me. It made sense in the past games which were survival horror and you could just run around a lot of enemies. With the emphasis now on killing everything they should have done away with all the ammo rationing IMO. Either keep it survival horror, or make it a full on action game. It just feels stuck in limbo in between to me.
chess
03-13-07, 10:36 AM
I agree. I thought they had the difficulty pretty well balanced. The thing you have to do though is manage your weapons and ammo. I need to play this game again. I have the Chicago Typewritter unlocked and it would be fun to blow through it again.
I played most of the way through with the Chicago Typewriter...and it really wasn't as much fun as you'd think. It's about the equivalent of the infinite rocket launcher in the first RE...just wayyyy too powerful.
gimmepilotwings
03-13-07, 11:10 AM
One of the best things about RE is the limited ammo IMO. When you have to ration your bullets, it makes you use the knife, or shoot them in the head, etc.
I think the lack of bullets and its storyline is what separates it from other 3rd person shooters.
Josh H
03-13-07, 11:26 AM
That's true, the series has just never really been my cup of tea. I'm liking RE4 much more than past games, but I don't think it's going to win me over totally in the long run.
I'd rather play something like Gears were you don't have to manage ammo and can just shoot the shit out of everything.
KurrptSenate
03-13-07, 11:28 AM
im with ya on that one
chess
03-13-07, 11:32 AM
One of the best things about RE is the limited ammo IMO. When you have to ration your bullets, it makes you use the knife, or shoot them in the head, etc.
I think the lack of bullets and its storyline is what separates it from other 3rd person shooters.
I agree. You've got a small group of notzombies coming at you, and you know you could just take them out with your shotgun, but you also want to save your shotgun for the next boss...what to do?
It adds a little sense of dread and/or regret (if you use your best ammo) that I really enjoy in a game.
Josh H
03-13-07, 11:36 AM
Yeah, I hate that sense of dread.
It sucks to finally beat a boss and then think "well maybe I used too much ammo and should reset and start again." :(
I'm pretty much just at a point where I'm going to stop worrying about it so much and if I end up stuck because of not having enough ammo I'll just quit.
Jeremy517
03-13-07, 11:52 AM
Tip relating to ammo:
When you upgrade your gun's capacity, it fills it up. Upgrade when your gun needs reloading.
I had basically a suitcase full of ammo left when I finished because I had been a little too conservative with it.
Josh H
03-13-07, 12:08 PM
Yeah, I notice that early on and have been taking advantage of it.
shumway
03-13-07, 12:57 PM
Best Buy with their $5 off coupons. Those coupons are getting hard to find now. I still have two left.
The 'new' Best Buy at 'The Rim' up I-10 still has many. As long as they keep opening new locations around town I think it will still be possible to find the cards.
clckworang
03-13-07, 03:55 PM
Yeah, I hate that sense of dread.
It sucks to finally beat a boss and then think "well maybe I used too much ammo and should reset and start again." :(
I'm pretty much just at a point where I'm going to stop worrying about it so much and if I end up stuck because of not having enough ammo I'll just quit.
I've only ever played one Resident Evil game, that being that Codename Veronica one on the PS2, and I ran into the same issue. I was just starting to get really into the game, having finally gotten used to the awkward tank-like controls, and realized that I had used way too much ammo and couldn't really get past this one part because of it (having not played a Resident Evil game previously, I really didn't know conserving ammo was such an issue). At that point, I knew that I would need to start over and play differently to get further in the game. Needless to say, I haven't played it since.
drmoze
03-13-07, 04:37 PM
Has anyone picked up Tiger Woods yet? And played it as a simulation? (i.e., using a realistic golf swing, as opposed to the one-handed swoop that EA actually put out in a promo video!) If so, how does it respond? Can you play it "like real golf"?
dick_grayson
03-13-07, 04:39 PM
I was at BB and Gamestop today and both said they'd arrive tomorrow.
KurrptSenate
03-13-07, 04:49 PM
well, maybe at that place...
then again, they get shipped last on the totem pole, under places like wal-mart, CC, BB, etc.
If wal-mart doesnt have it, they should at midnight
darkside
03-13-07, 04:50 PM
The 'new' Best Buy at 'The Rim' up I-10 still has many. As long as they keep opening new locations around town I think it will still be possible to find the cards.
Sweet. The new one at 1604 & 281 finally got rid of them so it looks like I need to go make a run there to grab a few more. At $15 for 2000 points the VC games are a lot less painful to buy.
chess
03-13-07, 09:00 PM
Sweet. The new one at 1604 & 281 finally got rid of them so it looks like I need to go make a run there to grab a few more. At $15 for 2000 points the VC games are a lot less painful to buy.
I picked up two at the Rim on Sunday...but I can't find anything to download...maybe Bonk.
They didn't have any a few hours ago though.
greydt
03-14-07, 10:03 AM
Well, I just had my wow moment with the Wii.
I don't actually own one (and probably won't get one for another 10-12 months), by my mother called me up over the weekend and asked about it. Apparently, she wants to get one: this coming from a 60 year old asian lady who never had interest in any video games whatsoever prior. Apparently, her older sister (around 70) has already been playing Wii Tennis and uses it as "exercise".
I realize these kinds of stories have been popping up before, but it really doesn't hit ya until it happens :).
CreatureX
03-14-07, 11:09 AM
Well, I just had my wow moment with the Wii.
I don't actually own one (and probably won't get one for another 10-12 months), by my mother called me up over the weekend and asked about it. Apparently, she wants to get one: this coming from a 60 year old asian lady who never had interest in any video games whatsoever prior. Apparently, her older sister (around 70) has already been playing Wii Tennis and uses it as "exercise".
I realize these kinds of stories have been popping up before, but it really doesn't hit ya until it happens :). That is such a great story. It's amazing the way the Wii has been embraced by those who've never played videogames before. :)
drmoze
03-14-07, 11:13 AM
Well, I just had my wow moment with the Wii.
I don't actually own one (and probably won't get one for another 10-12 months), by my mother called me up over the weekend and asked about it. Apparently, she wants to get one: this coming from a 60 year old asian lady who never had interest in any video games whatsoever prior. Apparently, her older sister (around 70) has already been playing Wii Tennis and uses it as "exercise".
Make sure she uses the wrist strap!!!!! ;)
pinata242
03-14-07, 11:32 AM
Well, I just had my wow moment with the Wii.
I don't actually own one (and probably won't get one for another 10-12 months), by my mother called me up over the weekend and asked about it. Apparently, she wants to get one: this coming from a 60 year old asian lady who never had interest in any video games whatsoever prior. Apparently, her older sister (around 70) has already been playing Wii Tennis and uses it as "exercise".
I realize these kinds of stories have been popping up before, but it really doesn't hit ya until it happens :).
See, what's great about this is that Nintendo actually makes on profit on the Wii sale alone. That means they never have to sell these people another piece of software or accessory to break even. Anything they buy (like Wii Sports 2 with Online Play) is bonus.
They don't have to play catch up with licensing and software attach rates to be profitable.
Ocelot
03-14-07, 12:32 PM
See, what's great about this is that Nintendo actually makes on profit on the Wii sale alone. That means they never have to sell these people another piece of software or accessory to break even. Anything they buy (like Wii Sports 2 with Online Play) is bonus.
They don't have to play catch up with licensing and software attach rates to be profitable.
Nintendo makes profit on the Wii, sure. Refreshing game play, sure. Competitive pricing, sure. Novelty, sure... I got few enjoyable moments from my Wii among family members, but the initial excitement is no longer there... Wii sport is still cool, but hardly anybody is playing with it in the family! I enjoyed boxing until i find out the freaking control sucks. So the only two sports i enjoy at the moment is bowling and basaeball (batting pratice only).
What i and the family enjoy more now is the PS3, movies (Casino Royale in BR, sd dvds in component mode), huge library of PS2 games, game graphic of the next generation console...
My Wiimote finally ran out of batteries (the ones come with the system) and i haven't replace them since... Zelda TP just have to wait (sigh, i still perfer a regular control for this game). Raving Rabbit is collecting dust, all of the other Wii games suck. Waiting for those new Wii Mario games, that's pretty much the next time the Wii will be on.
pinata242
03-14-07, 12:35 PM
Nintendo makes profit on the Wii, sure. Refreshing game play, sure. Competitive pricing, sure. Novelty, sure... I got few enjoyable moments from my Wii among family members, but the initial excitement is no longer there... Wii sport is still cool, but hardly anybody is playing with it in the family! I enjoyed boxing until i find out the freaking control sucks. So the only two sports i enjoy at the moment is bowling and basaeball (batting pratice only).
What exactly does this have to do with the fact that by selling a Wii to a 60 or 70 year old woman who is perfectly satisfied with Tennis or Bowling on Wii Sports results in a profit for Nintendo?
shumway
03-14-07, 12:37 PM
There is a library of good GC games you can play on your Wii as well, not as mammoth or with as many AAA titles as the PS2 though. I hardly get to play the Wii, but, my kids are playing the hell out of Zelda, Excite Truck, Wii Play, and my 3 year old can't get enough of Baseball on Sports. Hell my almost 5 year old daughter just started playing Boxing and really likes it.
CreatureX
03-14-07, 12:40 PM
Here a couple of Japanese boxarts for Big Brain Academy and Super Paper Mario:
Buy: