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gosabres1984
01-27-07, 02:45 AM
Salo - Criterion Collection DVD (Spine #17)
(The original 1998 version, with the frosted white ring)

How many people here have this DVD, or know someone who does? I was wondering if anyone here has this DVD can you post pictures of it...

I guess this DVD sells for anywhere between $300 and $800 used, I have only seen the original Salo DVD sealed and it sold for about $1500!! I here it is almost impossible to find this DVD sealed, because there are "fake" versions of Salo floating around out there, with the same UPC as the original, also if it's sealed you would not be able to tell if it had the frosted white ring (which only the original has).

I am a DVD collector, I have over 700 DVD's, and having the Salo Criterion DVD to me is having the ALMIGHTY of DVD's.

project86
01-27-07, 02:51 AM
Criterion is reprinting it soon... it was announced last month some time.

JZ1276
01-27-07, 02:52 AM
who cares about salo

Living Dead
01-27-07, 04:13 AM
who cares about salo

Obviously the OP, and enough people to drive the price sky high. But I guess you don't like the film, so no one else should either. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive us.

Alan Smithee
01-27-07, 04:37 AM
What does the "white ring" look like anyways?

The world's rarest DVDs are the ones I make myself :)

kevkev
01-27-07, 05:34 AM
no need to educate us OP. we know it all.

the white ring is like a sort frosting/fog to the centre ring. it's not the sort of thing that you could copy is you were a bootlegger. the killer also has this frosting. though i believe legit copies also existed with a mirrored centre ring. but to be honest, dvd prices have fallen and so have the demand for some of the rarer dvds.

speedyray
01-27-07, 07:46 AM
Not sure it is the rarest, I have read a few arguments over that, but it is one of the rarest and hardest (most expensive) to get a hold of. I used to try, just to have it and see what all the fuss was about, but shortly after the Facets fiasco that so many of us her took part in, I gave up. With the new release coming, I sure am glad I gave up.

movieking
01-27-07, 09:15 AM
I owned it very briefly. After what I paid for it I was afraid that a new release would be announced and it would crash in value so I got rid of it (for a premium).

Trout
01-27-07, 10:33 AM
the killer also has this frosting. though i believe legit copies also existed with a mirrored centre ring.

Only a few copies of The Killer had the white ring. My criterion was mirrored. It's these discs that go for more money...

TomOpus
01-27-07, 10:56 AM
No way this is the rarest DVD. Inflated eBay prices does not make something rare... only expensive.

laserdogg
01-27-07, 10:58 AM
Only a few copies of The Killer had the white ring. My criterion was mirrored. It's these discs that go for more money...

Are you saying the white ring pressing of The Killer goes for more money or is scarce compared to later / different legit pressings?

My copy was bought from Suncoast the week it streeted and in checking just now it has the "white ring"

kintnerboy
01-27-07, 11:10 AM
No way this is the rarest DVD.


You are 100% WRONG.

Criterion only produced about 2000 of these, making it one of the smallest pressings for a dvd, Limited Ed or otherwise. Subtract from that the number that were thrown away / destroyed (I know mine was) by people who were disgusted by the contents and or scared that a girlfriend/wife would think they were a perv, and you have a very small number of legitimate copies left in existence.

darkside
01-27-07, 11:13 AM
I owned it and cashed in on it. One of the worst films I have ever seen. The rarity of the DVD is the only thing it has going for it.

TomOpus
01-27-07, 11:35 AM
You are 100% WRONG.I'm sure there have been other DVDs with runs with less than 2000. Hell, I have the autographed LE of I Drink Your Blood where there were only 500 produced. So which one is rarer?

Salo is a highly prized collectable. There is a perceived notion that one "had to have it" so the price inflated. I just did a quick look at some "real" ones that sold on eBay and they're going for $300 to $400 range (unopened). I'm sure once Criterion re-releases it, the prices will drop even more.

starseed1981
01-27-07, 11:54 AM
A had this briefly... Honestly, this is probably the worst film I've ever seen.

visitor Q
01-27-07, 01:47 PM
You are 100% WRONG.

:clap: .. rather, ummm, nope!!

I have two sets of Innocence (Ghost in the Shell 2) that only had production runs of 1000 each. As Tom noted, there are quite a few rarer (based solely on production runs) than Salo. What makes Salo appealing (oxymoron right there) are Criterion completists, period. The film itself has been available to importers for some time.

canaryfarmer
01-27-07, 01:59 PM
You are 100% WRONG.

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/pwned-48495.jpg

Bill Needle
01-27-07, 03:08 PM
I owned it and cashed in on it. One of the worst films I have ever seen. The rarity of the DVD is the only thing it has going for it.
I could press only 100 copies of my dog taking a dump, and it still wouldn't be worth anything...and neither should it be.

JZ1276
01-27-07, 03:08 PM
Obviously the OP, and enough people to drive the price sky high. But I guess you don't like the film, so no one else should either. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive us.

i cannot

kintnerboy
01-27-07, 03:24 PM
:clap: .. rather, ummm, nope!!

I have two sets of Innocence (Ghost in the Shell 2) that only had production runs of 1000 each. As Tom noted, there are quite a few rarer (based solely on production runs) than Salo. What makes Salo appealing (oxymoron right there) are Criterion completists, period. The film itself has been available to importers for some time.




Uuum....rather......duh.....um....nope yourself


I have a 1 out of 150 autographed copy of Murder Set Pieces. That surely is the rarest dvd in the world, right? Or my 1/1333 copy of Pig? Numbered limited fanboy editions don't count. We're talking about regular production runs of catalog titles.


That was a silly picture of the cat, though.

dvd_luver
01-27-07, 04:03 PM
Any chance of the 1st Ed Wood DVD with Johnny Depp being one of the worlds rarest DVD's? I am not talking about the SE, the 1st Buena Vista release which the studio recalled and probably destroyed them all. Some leaked, but very few. I doubt it is, but it could be considered.

Filmmaker
01-27-07, 04:32 PM
How many copies of THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION: Deluxe Limited Edition (the one in the silver foil box with soundtrack CD and book) made it out into the world? I got one the day of release from an online source but I remember them being off-the-market that same day. The only copy I ever saw was my own.

Matthew Ackerly
01-27-07, 04:34 PM
I own the 2 disc Halloween Limited Edition which is pretty rare. It goes for quite a bit on ebay and other place...

Anyone know how rare it actually is?

SI78
01-27-07, 04:41 PM
I'm curious how many Little Shop Of Horrors with the alternate ending made it out into the world. How close to the street date was it recalled? Over the years I have managed to find 2 sitting on shelves in stores. (Well, two locations of the same retailer.)

Bacon
01-27-07, 05:18 PM
who cares about salo
:crap:

salamander2
01-27-07, 05:23 PM
I believe RetroMedia's version of FLESHEATERS, with commentary and featurette, was only pressed 40 copies before it got recalled. That has to be rare.

Filmmaker
01-27-07, 05:49 PM
:crap:

Do you have any idea how apropos that icon was?

GoldenJCJ
01-27-07, 07:26 PM
<---------- Hanging on to 27 copies of Saving Private Ryan:Limited Edition biding his time until time to cash in and retire. ;)

visitor Q
01-27-07, 07:42 PM
Uuum....rather......duh.....um....nope yourself

I never said that mine were the rarest. I was commenting about your reply to TO. -ohbfrank-

Cameron
01-27-07, 07:45 PM
Pig is more limited and harder to find than salo. it fetches more, but rarely shows up for auction

geicos27
01-28-07, 01:24 AM
Here's some info on Salo including pics.
http://www.rareoopdvds.com/detail.php?movie=443&dvd=25&display=info

Steve
01-28-07, 01:54 AM
what about the cancelled Film Noir Boomerang that was supposedly never released but people (like me) got a copy?

Rockmjd23
01-28-07, 02:01 AM
Wasn't there an Ed Wood dvd that only a few hundred made it to stores before it was cancelled?

dvd_luver
01-28-07, 02:53 AM
Wasn't there an Ed Wood dvd that only a few hundred made it to stores before it was cancelled?

Yeah, that is what I previously mentioned, I don't know for fact if it is one of the worlds rarest DVD's, but it has got to be so incredibly rare and HTF. So it could be one of the worlds rarest DVD's since the studio probably destroyed them all since the SE was planned instead from Tim Burton who wanted a SE on it's way in the future. Regardless, if any exist at all it is an incredibly rare version and DVD.

Bill Geiger
01-28-07, 09:13 AM
Pig is more limited and harder to find than salo. it fetches more, but rarely shows up for auction

Is this it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pig-OOP-DVD-Cult-Epics-Rozz-Williams-Nico-B-surrealism_W0QQitemZ260076859793QQihZ016QQcategoryZ617QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260076859793

If so, the value is pretty piss poor.

indiephantom
01-28-07, 11:50 AM
I found "Salo" to be endlessly disturbing. It affected me for a few days. I'd hardly call it a bad or unsuccesful film if it was able to do that.

darkside
01-28-07, 12:06 PM
I could press only 100 copies of my dog taking a dump, and it still wouldn't be worth anything...and neither should it be.
Right, but if Criterion released 100 copies of it the disc would go for thousands of dollars.
The only reason this DVD is wanted is the Criterion name. If Image had released 2000 copies of it and let it go out of print the value would be a fraction of the Criterion version.
I have no idea why Criterion released it. I guess it has art value to some.

marlboro_man
01-28-07, 12:15 PM
I believe RetroMedia's version of FLESHEATERS, with commentary and featurette, was only pressed 40 copies before it got recalled. That has to be rare.
As far as I know those were on DVD-R discs.

Mike Adams
01-28-07, 12:31 PM
As far as I know those were on DVD-R discs.

Well, the production run for this was definitely larger than 40, but "DVD Discoveries" was a geniune pressed DVD, and was produced in very limited quantities.

Regardless of all that though, I'm not really sure whether having a super-rare DVD is that much to brag about. First of all, 75-90% of the population couldn't care less about <i>Salo</i>, so no matter how rare it might be, only a small segment of the population really wants a copy. Besides, if you're focusing on rarity alone, there are TONS of promotional DVDs, and even general-release DVDs that are probably more rare than <i>Salo</i>. I understand that the OP is happy to have it not only because it's rare, but it's a film they like, but if you're going to ignore the fact that it's not technically the <b>rarest</b> DVD out there because a lot of those rarer DVDs aren't something people care much about, and often aren't even movies, you also have to think about how sought-after <i>Salo</i> is by people who aren't just looking for a rare collectible, and the answer is, not very.

Jeff McKay
01-28-07, 12:54 PM
As far as I know those were on DVD-R discs.

Yes, technically, the Retromedia release of THE FLESH EATERS (only 50 copies produced) were on DVD-R discs, but they contained the full final menus and disc art so they were basically final product.

The Retromedia disc is a lot better than the current Dark Sky release as it contained the full uncut version of the film with the color sequence intact at the end, the commentary track, the featurettes, the full theatrical trailer, etc. None of this is on the Dark Sky release.

EdTheRipper
01-28-07, 01:00 PM
Yeah, that is what I previously mentioned, I don't know for fact if it is one of the worlds rarest DVD's, but it has got to be so incredibly rare and HTF. So it could be one of the worlds rarest DVD's since the studio probably destroyed them all since the SE was planned instead from Tim Burton who wanted a SE on it's way in the future. Regardless, if any exist at all it is an incredibly rare version and DVD.

I managed to snag a copy of that at FYE the week it was supposed to be out.

bluetoast
01-28-07, 01:04 PM
Wasn't there an Ed Wood dvd that only a few hundred made it to stores before it was cancelled?

I think it was a lot more than a few hundred, but still rare. I actually saw one at stores well after it was supposed to be recalled, amongst the "real" DVD.

EdTheRipper
01-28-07, 01:09 PM
From a brief search through Ebay, it appears the recalled Ed Wood disc doesn't really have much value. I've seen a couple of Buy-It-Now's for less than what I originally paid for the disc. Although, someone on Amazon is trying to get $575 for it. rotfl

kevkev
01-28-07, 02:04 PM
most dvds dont have any value in the long run. theyre hardly a good investment. most of the limited ones will get the best prices shortly after they vanish and become impossible to find. dvd prices in general have dived and things like criterion dvds are not worth half what they were 5 years ago. or when a new related film comes out and interest in that film shoots up again. look at supergirl, it wasnt that sought after but when superman returns came out and there was no sign of it appearing on the new SM sets the price shot up.

skywalker8
01-28-07, 06:01 PM
How about The Cremaster Cycle? They were only for sale from the Guggenheim I believe.

From Wikipedia:

"The full series was released in a limited series of 20 sets of DVDs, sold each for at least $100,000, and will not be made available on mass-market DVD.[1] However a 30 minute part of the third film is available on DVD."

majorjoe23
01-28-07, 06:05 PM
I made 50 copies of a movie called "Hollywood Jenga," so clearly it's the world's rarest DVD, and only about 10 sold.

Now that I've mentioned this, I should throw the rest up on ebay. I'm sure I've just driven demand sky high.

bballing
01-28-07, 06:52 PM
I could press only 100 copies of my dog taking a dump, and it still wouldn't be worth anything...and neither should it be.


Ill give you $20 for a copy.

DVD Josh
01-28-07, 07:51 PM
:crap:

That icon is quite fitting for SALO.

Filmmaker
01-28-07, 08:19 PM
That icon is quite fitting for SALO.

Someone didn't read post #27.

CreatureX
01-28-07, 10:10 PM
I remember several years ago Cartoon Network ran a 'Dexter's Laboratory' contest and the grand prize was a DVD that contained every episode of the show up to that point. Now that is one DVD I would like own. :)

Chad
01-28-07, 11:00 PM
The only reason this DVD is wanted is the Criterion name. If Image had released 2000 copies of it and let it go out of print the value would be a fraction of the Criterion version.

Bingo. And with the Criterion name comes the almighty spine number that the ultra completest must have. I'd personally like to see it just for the sake of seeing it, but based on the description most give--I seriously doubt it will be finding a permanent spot in my collection.

CinemaNut
01-29-07, 03:49 PM
I have read enough reviews and seen some of the other works from the director to have no interest. I am glad thouh its coming to dvd again so those whoe have tried to sell this for hundreds of dollars get screwed, and those who paid that dough will be pissed.

With stuff like El Topo, Holy Mountain and even Monster Squad finally coming to dvd for the first time, makes me glad the VHS pirates who tried to sell thi stuff for ungodly profit are gonna suffer as well. Seriously, I aint a socialist. :0

Mike Adams
01-29-07, 03:57 PM
I have read enough reviews and seen some of the other works from the director to have no interest. I am glad thouh its coming to dvd again so those whoe have tried to sell this for hundreds of dollars get screwed, and those who paid that dough will be pissed.

With stuff like El Topo, Holy Mountain and even Monster Squad finally coming to dvd for the first time, makes me glad the VHS pirates who tried to sell thi stuff for ungodly profit are gonna suffer as well. Seriously, I aint a socialist. :0

I'm with you. Makes me smile to see those inflated Amazon and eBay prices come tumbling down once an OOP title is re-released. As for the bootleggers, I agree there as well, although at least with titles that have never been released on DVD, they're actually providing something the studio hadn't bothered to, albeit at a sometimes ridiculous price. Even worse is the fact that what you get for the cash you fork over is very poorly done, and from what I've seen, bootleggers sometimes don't stop selling their wares even after an official release happens, at least while they still have stock to get rid of.

All in all, the whole price-gouging situation with regard to "you want it, but you can't get it unless you're willing to pay the price" DVDs is just ridiculous. People claim "free enterprise" every time they're criticized, but it's opportunism, plain and simple. It's exploting the free enterprise system, not helping it.

Cameron
01-29-07, 06:35 PM
Is this it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pig-OOP-DVD-Cult-Epics-Rozz-Williams-Nico-B-surrealism_W0QQitemZ260076859793QQihZ016QQcategoryZ617QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260076859793

If so, the value is pretty piss poor.


same movie, diffrent release. the original release is numbered to 200 i think, and still gets high marks.


forthe above
depends on what bootlegs you buy from what people. plenty of quality boots out there that could pass the pepsi challenge. disc art, covers and inserts quality printed on paper. I see copies of monster squad and howard the duck on ebay with shrink wrap and security stickers all the time. at the same time i see junky printer paper covers dvd-r junk at flea markets and comic shows.

caiman
01-29-07, 07:05 PM
Being a member here at DVDTalk for nearly 7 years now, I can confidently say that Salo gets the highest amount of unwarranted discussion of any other film.

scarredgod
01-29-07, 09:42 PM
Being a member here at DVDTalk for nearly 7 years now, I can confidently say that Salo gets the highest amount of unwarranted discussion of any other film.
and the highest amount of unnecessary threadcrapping.

cultshock
01-29-07, 10:25 PM
and the highest amount of unnecessary threadcrapping.

That is especially true. :lol: Mostly from people who would never have even heard of the film, let alone seen it, if it hadn't been for the whole "rarest/most expensive DVD!!" issue. -rolleyes-

Mercury&Solace
01-30-07, 01:15 AM
I could press only 100 copies of my dog taking a dump, and it still wouldn't be worth anything...and neither should it be.

Will that be getting a Blu Ray tor HD DVD release anytime soon?

Bill Needle
01-30-07, 03:54 AM
Will that be getting a Blu Ray tor HD DVD release anytime soon?
I think you can already find some boots floating on eBay.

Dane
01-30-07, 03:58 AM
Another very rare title is "Little Rascals DTS". Not sure about the value, though.

Anyhow, some rare titles, which are very hard to find don´t necessarily cost an arm and a leg. Guess, it all depends on the demand.

CliffStephenson
01-30-07, 05:07 AM
Here's a pretty rare one. Circa summer 2000, New Line released the 2-disc Boogie Nights, which was originally slated to include a 30 minute cut of the John Holmes documentary "Exhausted." A handful of check discs (certainly less than 40) were pressed and sent out to review publications prior to street date only to see New Line forced to remove the documentary before the disc saw a final release. I know in all my dealings, this is the rarest disc I've ever personally encountered. I know there are probably other examples of check discs pressed with material that didn't make the final release, but this is one of the only examples I can think of where the discs actually made it out into the public.

Jay G.
01-30-07, 09:03 AM
I have a factory-pressed DVD of the Don Hertzfeldt animated short "Rejected" that was a limited edition. I don't know how many copies were pressed, but the website warns:

"Remember, once these are sold out they will never again be reprinted, doomed to only be available for outrageous prices on E-bay from overweight collectors who speak Klingon and smell vaguely of baby powder and cheese."

Wildo1966
01-30-07, 10:24 AM
Wasn't there a horror movie that was released on dvd and quickly taken off the market? I don't recall the name but I thought the movie had something to do with a killer dressed as a clown. I remember looking for the dvd but never finding it....Name help?

whoopdido
01-30-07, 11:51 AM
How rare is the original Duel dvd? If I remember correctly Duel was set to be released and then somebody died or something and it was pulled. It was later released, but I think a couple from the initial release leaked out. Now, I don't know if the first release is any different than the one that's currently available or if it was just shelved for awhile and then released again as is. Anybody know?

Filmmaker
01-30-07, 11:53 AM
How rare is the original Duel dvd? If I remember correctly Duel was set to be released and then somebody died or something and it was pulled. It was later released, but I think a couple from the initial release leaked out. Now, I don't know if the first release is any different than the one that's currently available or if it was just shelved for awhile and then released again as is. Anybody know?

I believe it's identical to the one that was finally released mass-market, even down to the same UPC, so (if I'm not mistaken) now there would be no way to know.

CinemaNut
01-30-07, 01:54 PM
I'm with you. Makes me smile to see those inflated Amazon and eBay prices come tumbling down once an OOP title is re-released. As for the bootleggers, I agree there as well, although at least with titles that have never been released on DVD, they're actually providing something the studio hadn't bothered to, albeit at a sometimes ridiculous price. Even worse is the fact that what you get for the cash you fork over is very poorly done, and from what I've seen, bootleggers sometimes don't stop selling their wares even after an official release happens, at least while they still have stock to get rid of.

All in all, the whole price-gouging situation with regard to "you want it, but you can't get it unless you're willing to pay the price" DVDs is just ridiculous. People claim "free enterprise" every time they're criticized, but it's opportunism, plain and simple. It's exploting the free enterprise system, not helping it.

Nicely stated. There's a fine line between free enterprise and opportunism and when some asks $500 for a SALO dvd, or $50 for a 20 year old vhs of Monster Squad they have crossed that line, imo. Sure its up to whomever wants to be dumb enough to pay that price, I aint calling for laws to be made, but I have no qualms about judging the entire fiasco either.

kevkev
01-30-07, 02:16 PM
are you kidding? thats how the world works. those chaps in iraq dont sell you yanks oil for 10 cents a barrell cause thats all it cost them. they sell it for a high price cause they know you're dumb enough to pay it.

i have sold over 30 videos of rare films which are not on dvd, i usually pick them up for 50p and no more than 1.99 and sell them on buy it now auctions for anywhere between 5 quid and 20 quid.

Giles
01-30-07, 02:30 PM
I'm curious how many Little Shop Of Horrors with the alternate ending made it out into the world. How close to the street date was it recalled? Over the years I have managed to find 2 sitting on shelves in stores. (Well, two locations of the same retailer.)

I'd be interested in knowing too, since I was able to purchase a copy.

bgmat58
01-30-07, 02:47 PM
is this definate that criterion is re-releasing this? anyone have a link or an eta?

Mike Adams
01-30-07, 03:46 PM
depends on what bootlegs you buy from what people. plenty of quality boots out there that could pass the pepsi challenge. disc art, covers and inserts quality printed on paper. I see copies of monster squad and howard the duck on ebay with shrink wrap and security stickers all the time. at the same time i see junky printer paper covers dvd-r junk at flea markets and comic shows.

Very true. However, the ones with shrinkwrap and "security stickers" piss me off more than the obviously-fanmade ones. Regardless of price, to try and pass off bootlegs (pressed or not) as official product is pretty damn low, especially when it's something that exists on an official DVD.

I will agree though that a few (<b>very</b> few) makers of "unofficial" DVDs do put some effort into them, and fewer still actually sell for reasonable prices, or better yet, mostly trade (PDTV among them).

Mike Adams
01-30-07, 03:56 PM
I have a factory-pressed DVD of the Don Hertzfeldt animated short "Rejected" that was a limited edition. I don't know how many copies were pressed, but the website warns:

"Remember, once these are sold out they will never again be reprinted, doomed to only be available for outrageous prices on E-bay from overweight collectors who speak Klingon and smell vaguely of baby powder and cheese."

That sounds vaguely familiar, and I would have loved to get my hands on one of those (the DVD, not the overweight collectors). I don't know if it's the advent of the internet or what, but most overweight collectors I've met don't smell a damn thing like baby power, or any kind of non-fetid cheese, for that matter. It's typically days worth of B.O. in my experience. :whofart:

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr.
01-30-07, 03:58 PM
is this definate that criterion is re-releasing this? anyone have a link or an eta?

http://www.criterionco.com/blog/2006_11_01_archive.html#116415251608534341


Have we been able to renew our rights? Well, here’s the answer you weren’t expecting. Yes. We’re working on a brand new HD transfer now. It’ll be a totally new release and be out in 2007.

Mike Adams
01-30-07, 04:04 PM
are you kidding? thats how the world works. those chaps in iraq dont sell you yanks oil for 10 cents a barrell cause thats all it cost them. they sell it for a high price cause they know you're dumb enough to pay it.

i have sold over 30 videos of rare films which are not on dvd, i usually pick them up for 50p and no more than 1.99 and sell them on buy it now auctions for anywhere between 5 quid and 20 quid.

Well, we could go on forever talking about how the U.S. has made billionaires out of certain middle-eastern families for the sake of oil (and forever again talking about how insistent our government is on continuing to do so), but treating DVDs as commodities where the film contained on them is far less important than whether you can still buy a copy and claiming that "free enterprise" is all about getting as much as you can for what you have is what I have a big problem with. I'm not even so worried about original items like OOP DVDs and VHS tapes -- it's the DVD-R bootlegs that bother me the most.

cultshock
01-30-07, 05:52 PM
Here's a pretty rare one. Circa summer 2000, New Line released the 2-disc Boogie Nights, which was originally slated to include a 30 minute cut of the John Holmes documentary "Exhausted." A handful of check discs (certainly less than 40) were pressed and sent out to review publications prior to street date only to see New Line forced to remove the documentary before the disc saw a final release. I know in all my dealings, this is the rarest disc I've ever personally encountered. I know there are probably other examples of check discs pressed with material that didn't make the final release, but this is one of the only examples I can think of where the discs actually made it out into the public.

Wow, I was always disappointed that the abridged version of "Exhausted" (complete with P.T. Anderson commentary) didn't make it onto the DVD (it was on the Criterion LD). I'd love to have one of those check discs.

Cameron
01-30-07, 06:07 PM
is this definate that criterion is re-releasing this? anyone have a link or an eta?

Reel.com's Criterion Interview (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=460007&highlight=reel+com) <---let the cat out of the bag that it was being re-released, and gave a source for the legit number of original salo disc.

being discussed at length...

Criterion re-releasing Salo in 2007 (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=484413&highlight=salo)





Very true. However, the ones with shrinkwrap and "security stickers" piss me off more than the obviously-fanmade ones. Regardless of price, to try and pass off bootlegs (pressed or not) as official product is pretty damn low, especially when it's something that exists on an official DVD.

I will agree though that a few (<b>very</b> few) makers of "unofficial" DVDs do put some effort into them, and fewer still actually sell for reasonable prices, or better yet, mostly trade (PDTV among them).

i think most people seeking those films out know what they are looking at.

NatrlBornThrllr
01-30-07, 06:49 PM
What a silly thread.

Doug Schiller
01-30-07, 07:02 PM
I had the honor of owning Salo on LD (Criterion) which was a pretty rare title in its own right.
I actually got it out of an old "Camelot Music" laser clearance.
I watched it and sold it pretty quickly. It is nice having a rare title to help sell a bunch of laserdiscs when they must go in a group.

On the DVD side, I still have an unopened copy of the famed Little Shop of Horrors with Alternative Ending.
Everyone assumed that Warner would rerelease the ending in color but it was just a rumor that drove the prices down.
I may throw it on eBay and see what I can get, if not much, I'll crack it open and watch it.
I also have the Killer on Criterion but I'm not sure about it's "rarity".

Jay G.
01-30-07, 08:33 PM
That sounds vaguely familiar, and I would have loved to get my hands on one of those (the DVD, not the overweight collectors).
Even though it's technically OOP, Don Hertzfeldt still has the "Rejected" DVD available on his site:
http://stores.musictoday.com/store/dept.asp?band_id=1025&dept_id=7298&sfid=2

whotony
01-30-07, 09:42 PM
Wasn't there a horror movie that was released on dvd and quickly taken off the market? I don't recall the name but I thought the movie had something to do with a killer dressed as a clown. I remember looking for the dvd but never finding it....Name help?

clownhouse

whoopdido
01-30-07, 09:53 PM
are you kidding? thats how the world works. those chaps in iraq dont sell you yanks oil for 10 cents a barrell cause thats all it cost them. they sell it for a high price cause they know you're dumb enough to pay it.

i have sold over 30 videos of rare films which are not on dvd, i usually pick them up for 50p and no more than 1.99 and sell them on buy it now auctions for anywhere between 5 quid and 20 quid.

I found a bunch of different figures but the latest figures I found showed that the US only imports about 17% of its oil from the Middle East. It's not like we're getting the vast majority of our oil from that part of the world. Maybe if England got its oil from somewhere else in the world it wouldn't cost you guys $7 a gallon. By the way I filled up the other day for under $2 a gallon.

EdTheRipper
01-30-07, 10:48 PM
clownhouse

Yup, that's the one. I got a copy off of Half.com a while back for under $10. Not a bad movie.

Bill Needle
01-31-07, 01:23 AM
Maybe if England got its oil from somewhere else in the world it wouldn't cost you guys $7 a gallon. By the way I filled up the other day for under $2 a gallon.
I was also wondering how someone who pays 3 to 4 times what we do at the pump could lecture us about how dumb we are to pay what we do.

Mike Adams
01-31-07, 03:38 PM
i think most people seeking those films out know what they are looking at.

In a lot of cases, sure. To be more specific, there are a lot of sellers advertising their homemade VHS-to-DVD-R transfers as "Asian imports" to avoid having the auction closed and/or being prosecuted, so even if a fan knows they're getting a bootleg, it really sucks to get something you could have made at home, especially when you've paid big bucks for it.

Anyway, like I said, the fan-made ones aren't quite so bad because they obviously look fan-made, but when you get fan-made DVDs of films that haven't been released wrapped in an Asian-looking cover or official-looking copies of DVDs that have been released, it's difficult to know exactly what you're getting.

Mike Adams
01-31-07, 03:44 PM
Even though it's technically OOP, Don Hertzfeldt still has the "Rejected" DVD available on his site:
http://stores.musictoday.com/store/dept.asp?band_id=1025&dept_id=7298&sfid=2

Wow, thanks, Jay! :) I hadn't really done any searching for it, since there are parts of that short that are a little disturbing, but for the most part it's damn funny and very innovative. I'll be placing my order soon.

Celpacius
01-31-07, 04:00 PM
seven samurai cc first pressing rare?

the one with the restoration vid.

Cameron
01-31-07, 07:46 PM
seven samurai cc first pressing rare?

the one with the restoration vid.

still rare and sought out, but the restoration doc is on every disc, though you can't get to it through the remote menues. have to select the file in dvd-rom. It seemed to drive the price down a bit when this was found out

Jay G.
01-31-07, 11:41 PM
Wow, thanks, Jay! :) I hadn't really done any searching for it, since there are parts of that short that are a little disturbing, but for the most part it's damn funny and very innovative. I'll be placing my order soon.
Just FYI, the Bitter Films collection DVD available on the page also has Rejected on it, although it lacks some of the extras from the DVD "single" like the deleted scene and the hilarious (and accurately advertised) "entirely awful audio commentary."

gmaki_01
02-01-07, 03:17 AM
Hmm, somewhere in my garage I have a dual layer disc with half of "North by Northwest" on L0 and half of "Space Jam" on L1. (Packaged as "North by Northwest")

No idea if it's actually all that rare but at the time I figured most of them would get returned.

Giles
02-01-07, 09:44 AM
weren't there also early DVD editions of the Wallace & Gromit short films that had commentaries?

Mike Adams
02-01-07, 04:25 PM
weren't there also early DVD editions of the Wallace & Gromit short films that had commentaries?

Yes, I believe so. A quick search on Amazon will tell you which releases had the commentaries.

Mike Adams
02-01-07, 04:27 PM
Just FYI, the Bitter Films collection DVD available on the page also has Rejected on it, although it lacks some of the extras from the DVD "single" like the deleted scene and the hilarious (and accurately advertised) "entirely awful audio commentary."

Yeah, I noticed that -- thanks, though. I think the single will be a better buy for me, since I don't know if I'd enjoy those other shorts as much, although I'm curious to see them. Having all those "exclusive" extras on the DVD single would be nice, and the price certainly works for me.

PoorButters
03-06-07, 12:04 AM
Questions:
I have Salo- Criterion(?). Barcode #715515009225, Has insert listing 29 chapters, Has disc with nimbus cc1539dvd (D0798) code etched in, but no white ring! Disc when played has 29 chapters & removable sub's etc. all looks authentically criterion except "no white ring" on disc. How can the nimbus code be faked? It's etched into the centre of the disc? Is this real?!
The Killer- Criterion. Barcode #71555008976, Has insert listing 41 chapters. Plain silver disc with " The killer" printed with blobs of blood, all black. code etched into center of disc is killercc515dvd(D0471). It seems the only way to really authenticate a dvd is with the etched in coding...or is it? Please lend me your views, Cheers!

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alk3hol
03-06-07, 02:17 AM
I'm certain that your Killer is real. I have never heard of an authentic Salo without the white ring, but the nimbus logo and "cc1539dvd" lead me to believe that it is indeed authentic.

dvdblockbuster
03-06-07, 04:07 AM
If your Salo doesn't have a white ring, it is fake.

alk3hol
03-06-07, 09:18 AM
Unless bootleggers are printing Nimbus logos on their copies, then I stand by my belief that it is a legitimate Salo. The mirrored disc reads exactly like my white ring disc.

The Bus
03-06-07, 09:23 AM
I could press only 100 copies of my dog taking a dump, and it still wouldn't be worth anything...and neither should it be.

At least be original and have something that's not a copy of Salo.

PoorButters
03-06-07, 11:04 AM
At least be original and have something that's not a copy of Salo.

I just want to know if this is a genuine copy, this seems to be the place to find out. Thanx to all with helpful replies (keep them coming). If some of you want "original" I also have a copy of Jess Franco's Eugenie De Sade (66 copies- hand numbered), a German 2-disc copy of Joe D'amato's Anthopophagus (2000 copies) & plenty more to all the bif's who are just too cool for Salo.