Will the 360 get a redesign ?

[Dazed]

Ive read that some of the components will be changed in the next release (such as the 65mm CPU to reduce heat) but am curious if it will get an exterior make over?

Personally I think its the ugliest of all the consoles and is desperately in need of a redesign.

[funkyryno]

It's an improvement over the original Xbox.

[taffer]

The original Xbox never had a redesign, so it is unlikely that the 360 will either.

The cooler-running CPU is nothing more than rumors as far as I know. These rumors have been going around for a while now.

[sracer]

I highly doubt that there will be a redesign. If the Nintendo Wii continues on with its white-hot sales and interest for any amount of time, Microsoft may find itself needing to lower the price of the current system configs to be more competitive price-wise with the Wii.

If the PS3 starts to gain any positive momentum, the I can see MS maintaining the same price points but introduce more capacity... (eg. larger harddrive, additional rear USB port, etc.) to compete against the PS3.

It might even be conceivable that MS drops the price on the Core system, but leaves the Premium system at the same price but ups the harddrive capacity. The core to "compete" with the Wii (pricewise) and the premium to compete with the PS3 (capacity-wise)

At this point in time Microsoft has a lot of room to maneuver.

[Anubis2005X]

I'm hoping that 360 has at least an official price drop in the near future. I don't really have much interest in a PS3, but I do think the 60GB model is a better value. The only reason I state this is that I would want the HD-DVD drive and I would need a wireless adapter for it as well. That's already like $700 right there, with only a 20GB hard drive and no HDMI. I know prices are relative, and I like that the 360 gives you the option, but here's hoping for at least a pricedrop, and HDMI.

[BigDaddy]

I think the 360 looks great.

[KingSmoth]

I wouldn't hold off on buying one in hopes of a rumored CPU change, too much gaming goodness at hand now. I don't even know if I would buy a new system if they released one with HDMI, component looks great.
I think the 360 looks great, only thing I would like is to have one in black.

[Dazed]

I will have to buy a hd tv before i get a 360 as i feel i would be wasting most of the systems advantages by going sd on the games.

I'm also hoping that by waiting longer, more of the kinks will be worked out including the overheating issues. Thankfully MS has got around to giving a 1 year warranty. I don't know how they got away so long with just a 90 day. I have an $20 alarm clock with a longer warranty than that.

I know some people like the design but to me it just looks bloated. I don't like the design of the PS3 either so im not bias in my dislike :D

[Giantrobo]

Personally I think its the ugliest of all the consoles and is desperately in need of a redesign.


Too each their own but I totally disagree. I think it's looks great and I love the concave design. I agree with another poster who says it should come in Black.

"Bloated"? I guess compared to the wii it is but other than that it's a nice size.

[RichC2]

The X360 isn't a bad looking console perse, but isn't the greatest design either.

But it still looks amazing compared to the PSGrill.

[Decker]

I read in Time that Bill Gates went to tremendous trouble getting design artists to come up with a console that is aesthetically pleasing. I guess he realized (or suspected) that the Xbox did poorly in Japan because it was big and ugly.

Personally, I like the look of the console. I think the changeable faceplates is a brilliant idea; you can match your decor, make it as sophisticated or as geeky as you like.

I have a newer model (built 8/06) and it's pretty quiet so I suspect all the complaints about the console noise are getting quietly addressed already.

If I have any problem with the console, it's that the elegance of the unit comes with a price -- a power block almost as big as the console itself.

[Gallant Pig]

Personally I think its the ugliest of all the consoles and is desperately in need of a redesign.

No way. It has a great build and a nice look.

The PS3, which I own, on the other hand is hideous. It also feels like a giant, heavy POS when I pick it up.

The Wii is very sleek and nice, but the first time using it, I stuck the disc in the wrong way, if they had done something to indicate what way it should go in, would be better.

[SmackDaddy]

The Wii wins the beauty contest at the moment (IMO). I like the look of the 360, but I think that a lot of people dislike the fact that it doesn't really fit well with other components due to it's concave shape. Although I think if it was black, it would blend in a lot better (on it's side) in more audio/video setups.

I as surprised the PS3 was designed as it was, especially since the size of the Xbox was a sticking point with the Japanese market. That thing is just too big!!

You know, eventually someone is gonna ask for a smaller Wii, since the current one is so darn bulky!! :D

[Gallant Pig]

I as surprised the PS3 was designed as it was, especially since the size of the Xbox was a sticking point with the Japanese market. That thing is just too big!!

Not only is it too big, it's also really cheap feeling and plasticky. The original Xbox had a much more solid build to it.

[Groucho]

Don't care about the redesign, just waiting (patiently) for the eventual price drop.

[corbin dallas]

well if you want a black 360 you could always change the faceplate and get those decals for the body...

[RichC2]

Hdmi!

[kakihara1]

Not only is it too big, it's also really cheap feeling and plasticky. The original Xbox had a much more solid build to it.

Do you think that has more to do with the fact that the Xbox had a grain finish in the plastic as opposed to the gloss finish the PS3 has? Or does it physically not feel solid?

[LivingINClip]

Maybe I am crazy, but I think the 360 has a great design. A huge step up from the original Xbox which was just damn ugly. The PS3 on the other hand, in my opinion, wins hands down as the ugliest console this generation. It's simply to big when you compare it to the 360 and Wii. The even more amazing thing is all the PS2 fanboys at use to make fun of the Xbox over it's size.

-shrugs-

I don't know if I would expect a redesign or not. I know some people keep saying it'll eventually have a HDMI port, but I truly doubt it. By adding that, they would piss off a ton of people who alreayd own a 360. If anything, I'd like for them to release a larger HD, so that I don't have to use my own.

[taffer]

I read in Time that Bill Gates went to tremendous trouble getting design artists to come up with a console that is aesthetically pleasing. I guess he realized (or suspected) that the Xbox did poorly in Japan because it was big and ugly.


Nah, the complaints of it being too big and ugly was just a scapegoat. The real reason Japan did not like the Xbox is because it is an American-made console with very few Japanese games. Japan only likes Japanese consoles and Japanese games. The Xbox could have been as small as the Wii, and it still will would not have sold in Japan.

The PS3 is bigger and uglier than the original Xbox. The PS3 will sell well in Japan because it is a Japanese console with Japanese games.


well if you want a black 360 you could always change the faceplate and get those decals for the body...

Or get a can of black spray paint...

[Cusm]

I think the 360 is the best looking of the current generation, with the Wii a close second and the PS3 not even in the running. I did not like the original XBox design and it blows away the PS3. I would really like a black 360, but the only way I would buy another is if it had the HD-DVD built in.

[Decker]

Nah, the complaints of it being too big and ugly was just a scapegoat. The real reason Japan did not like the Xbox is because it is an American-made console with very few Japanese games. Japan only likes Japanese consoles and Japanese games. The Xbox could have been as small as the Wii, and it still will would not have sold in Japan.

The PS3 is bigger and uglier than the original Xbox. The PS3 will sell well in Japan because it is a Japanese console with Japanese games.
...
You may be right about that. I saw that the GTA games here, which for all intents and purposes cemented the PS2 as last gen's winner with HUGE sale numbers stateside sold very poorly in Japan. I don't really understand that philosophy regarding games, though as the Japanese seem pretty crazy for all things American in most other things.

[Jimmy James]

I think what the Japanese like could be called Americana, and they like it because it's so distinctly un-Japanese that it amuses them somehow. They don't tend to be fond of American products in industries where there is a Japanese competitor. That's just my hamfisted explanation.

[Mok]

I heard a Japanese designer had hands in creating the look for the 360. So it shouldn't be the look that scares the Japanese consumer away.

[clemente]

I love the way my 360 looks. I will grant you that it looks much worse in pictures, but when you see it in person its quite sleek looking. Add to that wireless controllers and its the cleanest looking console I've ever seen.

As for not owning an HDTV, its all about the gameplay man.

[edstein]

Zephyr

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/xbox_zephyr.jpg

[edytwinky]

How much do you all think the new design would cost? I'm waiting to buy a 360 until the first set of price drops.

[waporvare]

I can't help but wonder if there will be a super premium version with an integrated hd-dvd drive, HDMI, wifi, and a 160gb hard drive.

[Save Ferris]

I think it will cost the same or more even. They're adding hardware, so by keeping the price the same, its almost like a price drop. They can even bump the price up a little without too much problem, especially if its coming with a bigger HD.

Id rather just get a bigger HD separately. I wont need HDMI anytime soon.

[Save Ferris]

I can't help but wonder if there will be a super premium version with an integrated hd-dvd drive, HDMI, wifi, and a 160gb hard drive.

Maybe towards the end of the consoles life cycle.

[KingSmoth]

I wouldn't expect an integrated HD-DVD drive, I think that would be a waste of development costs for the add-on, not to mention wasted stock just sitting on shelves.
I don't think they would release yet another model(Core, Premium, "Super Premium"), that would probably really confuse people. Has any company supported three models of a system at one time?

[clownfish piece]

I don't think I'd ever buy an Xbox just because microsoft makes it... lol.. i was a hard core nintendo fan before the PS and since then ive been loyal to sony, but once i get the money i think i will definately be getting a Wii.. i think the PS3 is the beginning of the end of sony as a major player in the gaming industry... im not as techie as you guys seem to be so i dont really know some of those terms.. all i really want is an affordable game console with great games to play... i could care less about online play or whatever hdmi is.. i just want a system i can enjoy for years to come... im very disappointed with the ps3.. i dont care how good it is, im not paying $600+ for a friggin game system... so i guess ill be going back to nintendo soon as i have the money to blow on it.. the DS looks good too... i just wish the PS3 had more optional components.. most of the $600 in that thing is stuff i dont even want...

i think nintendo and microsoft are going to dominate the gaming industry and sony will be waving a white flag.. it pains me to say that but thats just what it seems.. the PS3 has been a huge bust so far... i sure will hate missing out on MGS4 though

in sony's defense though... the consoles i have bought from them have lasted... i only owned 1 PS1 which lasted me until the PS2 came out... i had an old style PS2 that lasted about 4 years before it crapped out and sony fixed it for free... lasted another year and a half before the laser started to go bad.. have a slim ps2 now that works great... so long as i dont unplug it all the time after use

anyways thats just my 2 cents...

[Giantrobo]

I don't think I'd ever buy an Xbox just because microsoft makes it... lol.. i was a hard core nintendo fan before the PS and since then ive been loyal to sony, but once i get the money i think i will definately be getting a Wii.. i think the PS3 is the beginning of the end of sony as a major player in the gaming industry... im not as techie as you guys seem to be so i dont really know some of those terms.. all i really want is an affordable game console with great games to play... i could care less about online play or whatever hdmi is.. i just want a system i can enjoy for years to come... im very disappointed with the ps3.. i dont care how good it is, im not paying $600+ for a friggin game system... so i guess ill be going back to nintendo soon as i have the money to blow on it.. the DS looks good too... i just wish the PS3 had more optional components.. most of the $600 in that thing is stuff i dont even want...

i think nintendo and microsoft are going to dominate the gaming industry and sony will be waving a white flag.. it pains me to say that but thats just what it seems.. the PS3 has been a huge bust so far... i sure will hate missing out on MGS4 though

in sony's defense though... the consoles i have bought from them have lasted... i only owned 1 PS1 which lasted me until the PS2 came out... i had an old style PS2 that lasted about 4 years before it crapped out and sony fixed it for free... lasted another year and a half before the laser started to go bad.. have a slim ps2 now that works great... so long as i dont unplug it all the time after use

anyways thats just my 2 cents...



Uhmm...ok.

[Anubis2005X]

I'm glad I waited. Cooler system, HDMI, and 120GB harddrive? I'm in...

[LivingINClip]

I don't think I'd ever buy an Xbox just because microsoft makes it... lol

If you don't want to play a lot of great games right now, all due to that reason, then so be it, thanks for sharing.

n sony's defense though... the consoles i have bought from them have lasted... i only owned 1 PS1 which lasted me until the PS2 came out... i had an old style PS2 that lasted about 4 years before it crapped out and sony fixed it for free... lasted another year and a half before the laser started to go bad.. have a slim ps2 now that works great... so long as i dont unplug it all the time after use

While the 360 has had huge manufactoring problems and heating issues, I'd say Sony's track record is just as iffy. The PS2 had a lot of problems that people don't think about, firmware was updated so DVD playback was done properly, backwards compatablity at one point was glitched and don't get started on the infamous disc read errors.

[MWB]

Here's a little more on the Zephyr from http://xbox-scene.com/:

Exclusive: 360 HDMI Proof - HR Pictures and Video - HANA Scaler

>> Here's a bit more about the news published earlier about the Xbox 360 'Zephyr' prototype with HDMI port. It's the 2nd time a HMDI picture leaked (1st time here if you missed it) and it looks like there are still many people that don't (want to) believe it ... so I guess it's time we come clear because Microsoft doesn't and we think you as customer has the right to know what's coming.
Microsoft still refuses to acknowledge it ... this is what they replied today to several news outlets:
"We have seen all types of claimed leaked photos like this show up online and as a standard policy we don't comment on speculative items."

We managed to get some exclusive High-Resolution pictures for x-scene of a 'Zephyr' prototype with the HDMI port. No, it's no retail Xbox360, it's a prototype board ... but Microsoft had to design a new scaler chip named 'HANA' (replacing the (analog-only?) 'ANA' chip found in current retail and dev Xboxes), I doubt they'll do that effort for nothing. You will also notice several other changes to the motherboard.
Microsoft always refused to answer any question about a possible HDMI-cable for the Xbox360 (even when asked for explicitly), but this HANA chip probably confirms the current 360 can only output an analog signal, so an HDMI-cable for the current 360 probably won't be possible (sure they could design a cable/box that reconverts the analog output to digital, but that makes no sense and is not the point).

Note: we can't tell/confirm you if the HDMI port, 65nm CPU and larger (120gb) HD are linked to each other. They might or might not be released together. The 65nm CPU is coming anyway for all Xbox models (confirmed by MS and Chartered long time ago + delay news). And it's also pretty obvious (with current demand and video marketplace) that MS will release a larger HD sooner or later, this requires no change to the motherboard.

They've also got a video up that appears to show a devkit 360 running through HDMI to DVI to a PC monitor.

[Gallant Pig]

i'm guessing they'll slip it into stores with little todo trying not to anger any early buyers.

[Gallant Pig]

I wouldn't expect an integrated HD-DVD drive, I think that would be a waste of development costs for the add-on, not to mention wasted stock just sitting on shelves.
I don't think they would release yet another model(Core, Premium, "Super Premium"), that would probably really confuse people. Has any company supported three models of a system at one time?

Yep, no reason to include it when continuing to give users the choice instead of passing the costs along has worked so far.

[Spy021]

I really do hope that the update rumor is true as I currently have to plug/unplug connectors as I have too many devices with Component connections. Having the HDMI connector would allow me to use one of the two HDMI inputs on my Panny.

Speaking of which... If you recently purchased your Xbox 360 from Costco and these update rumors do come to fruition, could you exchange your unit for the updated model? If not, I guess you could always just return the unit now and wait to see what comes out of the rumored update.

[Dazed]

heres the link to youtube (hope it works :) )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcACuy4x8nA

Looks cool (if not an elaborate fake). If is fake then they have way too much time on there hands :)

[sracer]

I really do hope that the update rumor is true as I currently have to plug/unplug connectors as I have too many devices with Component connections.
I am in the same dilemma since I need to move the Wii to the livingroom (which already has a Progressive Scan DVD player and XBox360 using both of the component inputs).

I stopped by Walmart yesterday and picked up a Philips component video switchbox for $20. Looks like it has plenty of inputs... I'll be hooking it up today so I'll find out how the quality is.

[SUPERMANROB]

thanks for the responses. I'm considering taking back the 360 for the new toshiba HD-DVD player. If the rumor is true about this new(Zephyr) 360 i could not find if it will be HDMI 1.3 compatible? this is important for the movie and movie audio portion of the system(for me anyways). Is there any time-line on this rumor(if it's true)? I have a Mits 57732 and wondering how it will look on this thing! This TV will pass native 1080p signal,so this is why I'm so interested if this new 360 will do this.

[Spy021]

Not sure if anything will be mentioned at the keynote speech tonight. However, if your interested it checking it out, it will be streamed. It will begin at 9:30 est.

http://microsoftatces.com/

[clemente]

i'm guessing they'll slip it into stores with little todo trying not to anger any early buyers.

I doubt that's possible - as the success of XBov Live proves, 360 buyers aren't the sort to buy their console and use it in the solitary confines or their homes.

Me, I bought a game unit, it plays games - I don't see what's to get upset about. (Fully aware that I'm in the minority)

[FantasticVSDoom]

Yeah...I dont mind since really, I only have one DVI port on my TV now and just got a new reciever that will let me pass 2 HDMI sources to it. At this point, the component is good for me. I will most likely get a BD player this year so there will be my 2 HDMI sources (with my A1) so I'm not too mad at about it. Now maybe in a few years I may make the trade in, if its worth it, but we'll see.

[mrglass]

I don't really care about HDMI right now even though my tv supports it...All I want is the bigger hard drive. If it's released separately and priced not too outrageously, I'll snap one up in a heartbeat.

[Spy021]

Looks like the Key Note is beginning now...

http://www.microsoft.com/ces/

[jeffdsmith]

Once MS releases a 360 with the 65nm chip, they will have a new customer with me.

[Ocelot]

I stayed away from the Xbox b/c of the heating problem. Yes, that's a big problem for me... The console should not function like a heater (exaggerated), i shouldn't be worried about carpet or purchasing a cooler station (waste of more money). And as for missing out great games on the X360? Honestly, i can't even recall any games i really really really want to play on the X360. Sorry, Halo doesn't cut it... i won't even want to play it for free (yes, it cost me times, and i rather play something else).

If the new X360 power consumption is improved, i'll get one, just to expand the library of games (for cheaper and more game availablility)

[Ph8te]

Microsoft commented on the HDMI rumor looks like nothing yet, but what the HDMI and the Bigger HD could come from providers of IPTV and their "custom" XBOX360s.
They could also jsut wait until Oct with the E for all, but that in my opinion is a little long to wait. I am going to purchase now and if the HD comes out get that since for gaming at least the HDMI means little to me as my TV accepts 1080p over VGA and component :)

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2080674,00.asp

[jas722]

I saw this posted on another forum and thought I would pass it along. Take it for what its worth

Excerpt from Gamespot's interview with MS (CS)...

GS: All this cool HD stuff that you're talking about starts to take up space. The 20GB for a lot of people is already starting to fill up. Seeing how Microsoft has been great about responding to customer needs on the Xbox 360, can you speak to larger-capacity hard drives?

CS: That's not really something we're looking at today. We're very open to feedback on it. As we produce these services, if we see an increase in pressure that's something that will be interesting to look at, but there isn't any announcement today about any new configuration that may or may not be happening.

GS: What can you tell us about the HDMI-enabled Xbox 360 rumors that have been going around?

CS: We're always working on prototypes and new technologies and just playing with stuff in Redmond to see what's interesting. I think at the moment we have the widest available connections on the system. If you want to get great HD, I think we've got a good solution for that. In the future it's interesting to see where standards evolve to. I think one of the problems that the whole industry, us and entertainment, are facing at the moment is we're in this world where standards are evolving very quickly.

We have different high-definition standards for discs that we know are competing at the moment. We think HD-DVD is going to be the right way to go, but really it's all about choice in that system so that's why we're offering these sort of services with downloads--skip that whole "format wars" problem. With other standards, audiovideo standards, they're evolving very quickly as well. We're obviously keeping an eye on that and saying, "What are the future standards and how do we give consumers the right choice for that?"

At the moment, everything you might have seen is just looking at our experimentation back in Redmond, not really a product that we're thinking about announcing.


Here's the line:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/616396...estnews;title;4

[exm]

I think it's obvious that they will release a new XBOX 360 soon with HDMI, 65nm chip and a bigger hard drive (120 Gb). My guess is that this will replace the Premium, while the Premium will become the core.

This has the advantage that Microsoft can resell their current stock of 360s: just slap on the 20 Gb hard drives to the core systems. That why I also don't think they will advertise the 65nm chip.

Since they didn't make CES 2007, I would assume a spring release.

[msdmoney]

I saw this posted on another forum and thought I would pass it along. Take it for what its worth

Excerpt from Gamespot's interview with MS (CS)...

GS: All this cool HD stuff that you're talking about starts to take up space. The 20GB for a lot of people is already starting to fill up. Seeing how Microsoft has been great about responding to customer needs on the Xbox 360, can you speak to larger-capacity hard drives?

CS: That's not really something we're looking at today. We're very open to feedback on it. As we produce these services, if we see an increase in pressure that's something that will be interesting to look at, but there isn't any announcement today about any new configuration that may or may not be happening.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/616396...estnews;title;4

Wow, I guess they just don't want to say anything until they release, so they don't keep people from buying the current version. But to say they aren't even looking into it sounds ridiculous. They are heading toward an all in one, digital movie/tv/music/gaming device and they aren't even considering more storage....come on.

[Ocelot]

This is the major turnoff for me and that is why i still do not own a X360, not because i cannot afford it...

http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6398157.html

Redesign that and i'll buy one for sure.

[Ocelot]

Then again, the PS3's power consumption is even worse... Argh, wait for redesigns, i'm not exactly a tree hugger, but still, i don't like the idea of wasting resources. I know i know, it cost more moola to come up with power efficient models...

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=36180

[exm]

This is the major turnoff for me and that is why i still do not own a X360, not because i cannot afford it...

http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6398157.html

Redesign that and i'll buy one for sure.

:shrug:

[Giantrobo]

:shrug:


Thank you.

For all the pleasure I get from my 360 it's a non issue.....

[fumanstan]

Then again, the PS3's power consumption is even worse... Argh, wait for redesigns, i'm not exactly a tree hugger, but still, i don't like the idea of wasting resources. I know i know, it cost more moola to come up with power efficient models...

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=36180

I'm not really sure why it would be considered "wasting resources." It's not like it's sitting there just sucking up power and you're getting nothing out of it. Considering modern PC's are outfitted with anywhere from 300 - 700 watts of power (the actual draw is lower though, right?) it isn't too far off that more powerful game consoles are getting up there.

[msdmoney]

Well my power bill is split three ways so my roomates can pay for my wasting of resources.

I'm not really sure why it would be considered "wasting resources." It's not like it's sitting there just sucking up power and you're getting nothing out of it. Considering modern PC's are outfitted with anywhere from 300 - 700 watts of power (the actual draw is lower though, right?) it isn't too far off that more powerful game consoles are getting up there.

Good point, you probably spend more typing on this forum.

[Giantrobo]

He should just admit he's a Wii fan instead of putting down 360 and PS3. :grunt:


:lol::p

[Jtnguyen12]

I waiting for new XBOX 360 version 1.5 & hope i can get it b4 xmas 2007 :)

[Ocelot]

He should just admit he's a Wii fan instead of putting down 360 and PS3. :grunt:


:lol::p


Errr, that's not true... i got a PSP, PS1, PS2 and seriously considering PS3 and somewhat mixed about X360. Again, i'm not *itching about few bucks on electric bill, just the thought that there are effecient ways to use the energy, just that they will cost more for the consumer.

Most importantly, i don't tolertate devices short the room's electrical circuit (i never vacuum the room where the AC is on) or devices overheat (i never turn on portable heaters on at night).

See, the Wii's 24 hours on-line feature require you have the Wii on at all times, but since the Wii's power consumption is much less, i don't think there's an overheating issue. However, if you do that with the X360 or PS3, somebody better be home!

[Michael Corvin]

See, the Wii's 24 hours on-line feature require you have the Wii on at all times, but since the Wii's power consumption is much less, i don't think there's an overheating issue. However, if you do that with the X360 or PS3, somebody better be home!

So I can perish in the flames? I'll pass. Who leaves their system on anyway? There is a timed shut off feature on the 360 to prevent this.

[exm]

Errr, that's not true... i got a PSP, PS1, PS2 and seriously considering PS3 and somewhat mixed about X360. Again, i'm not *itching about few bucks on electric bill, just the thought that there are effecient ways to use the energy, just that they will cost more for the consumer.

Get rid of your PS1 and PS2, buy a XBOX 360 and you'll safe on your energy bill ;)

Seriously, energy aside, I switch from a PS2 to a XBOX 360 which was a huge step for me as a long-time Microsoft hater (don't get me started).

However, MS did everything right with the XBOX 360: it is affordable, the performance is great, the XBOX Live is the *BEST* out there and they keep on releasing new gadgets. I am sure that the PS3 will catch up somehow in the near future, but why wait if you want to enjoy next gen games now?

Oh, and I also own a PSP (used mainly in the airplane ;))


Most importantly, i don't tolertate devices short the room's electrical circuit (i never vacuum the room where the AC is on) or devices overheat (i never turn on portable heaters on at night).

Uhm okay. Unless you have electricity issues I don't really see why, but to each his own.


See, the Wii's 24 hours on-line feature require you have the Wii on at all times, but since the Wii's power consumption is much less, i don't think there's an overheating issue. However, if you do that with the X360 or PS3, somebody better be home!

As the previous poster mentioned, the 360 will shut itself off. Besides, turning it on and off is not a big deal to me since the load/shutdown times are <10 seconds anyway.

[Ocelot]

[QUOTE=...


As the previous poster mentioned, the 360 will shut itself off. Besides, turning it on and off is not a big deal to me since the load/shutdown times are <10 seconds anyway.[/QUOTE]


Okay, i don't own a X360, so i'm not sure about this...

If you leave the unit on for downloading, does it get overheated? I can understand it overheats when you're actually playing games, b/c the graphic accelerators and what nots...

Don't laugh at the "go up in flames" comments... maybe i'm being paranoid, but i'm very careful when comes to house safty. After the episode where my PC got fried b/c of lighting (the socket wasn't grounded properly), i learned to be more careful with expensive electronic equipements (which includes what gets connected to what breaker etc...)

See, if i connect both X360 and PS3 to the same TV, i'll make sure one is off before turing on the other (comon sense). However, now a day, we all multi-task, which means we don't usually turn one thing off when we need to turn something else on.

Yeah, life is much simpler if there's a console that can play all of the games...

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Okay, i don't own a X360, so i'm not sure about this...

If you leave the unit on for downloading, does it get overheated? I can understand it overheats when you're actually playing games, b/c the graphic accelerators and what nots...

Don't laugh at the "go up in flames" comments... maybe i'm being paranoid, but i'm very careful when comes to house safty. After the episode where my PC got fried b/c of lighting (the socket wasn't grounded properly), i learned to be more careful with expensive electronic equipements (which includes what gets connected to what breaker etc...)

See, if i connect both X360 and PS3 to the same TV, i'll make sure one is off before turing on the other (comon sense). However, now a day, we all multi-task, which means we don't usually turn one thing off when we need to turn something else on.

Yeah, life is much simpler if there's a console that can play all of the games...


Valid points. This is my take: I don't download night and day since the HD is only 20 Gb or so. Usually all downloads are finished within 15 minutes and I download once a month or so.

Really, what do you want to download, and how much can you fit on 12 Gb of effective free space?

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Valid points. This is my take: I don't download night and day since the HD is only 20 Gb or so. Usually all downloads are finished within 15 minutes and I download once a month or so.

Really, what do you want to download, and how much can you fit on 12 Gb of effective free space?

10-20 game demos, videos, movie trailers etc.

Every Arcade game, etc.

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10-20 game demos, videos, movie trailers etc.

Every Arcade game, etc.

I don't know what your internet connection is, but the average download is <100Mb. There are a couple of bigger ones, but I download 500 Mb in <10 mins. You can fill up all 12 Gb in app. 2-3 hours of downloading.