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Th0r S1mpson
11-27-06, 08:28 PM
About TIME! :up::up:

We'll see how it takes, but MAN, would this be refreshing or WHAT?!?!

NEW: <B>Black leaders want to stop use of "n-word"</B>
Jesse Jackson: "We want to give our ancestors a present"
Michael Richards on Jackson's radio show: "Shattered" by rant

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Black leaders challenged the entertainment industry, including rap artists, actors and major studios, to stop the use of the racial slur that triggered the scandal involving "Seinfeld" comic actor Michael Richards.

The Rev. Jesse Jackson, a civil rights leader, and others said Monday they will meet with TV networks, film companies and musicians to discuss banning the racial slur that is a derogatory term for blacks. They also sought an effort by the public to stop using the term.

"We want to give our ancestors a present," Jackson said at a news conference. "Dignity over degradation."

Jackson also asked the public not to buy a DVD box set of the seventh season of the TV show "Seinfeld" that was released last week.

Richards, who played the wacky neighbor Kramer on "Seinfeld," triggered outrage with a November 17 racial rant against two black men when he was heckled during a stand-up comedy routine at the Laugh Factory nightclub in West Hollywood. A patron recorded the outburst with a video camera phone.

Richards has made several apologies, including one Sunday on Jackson's syndicated radio program, in which he has said he is not a racist and was motivated by anger. (Watch Richards on the radio show )

At the press conference, comedian Paul Mooney said he has used the "n-word" numerous times during stand-up performances but will no longer do so after watching Richards' rant.

"He's my Dr. Phil," the black comedian said. "He's cured me." (Watch Mooney say why he's done with the word )

Asked about free-speech issues, Jackson said the word is "unprotected."

U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-California, charged that only situations such as the Richards incident turn mainstream media attention to issues involving the black community.

"This is not simply about whether or not the black community forgives or forgets, this is about understanding that this is pervasive, that this happens in all of our institutions, one way or the other," Waters said.

Laugh Factory owner Jaime Masada extended an invitation to Richards to perform on December 4 at the club to apologize to the guests who attended the November 17 performance.

"He has no intention of going back there and performing right now," Richards' publicist Howard Rubenstein said.

Masada suggested Richards donate at least $500,000 (euro381,270) to charity for every time he unleashed the derogatory term. Masada also said the comedy club will ban comedians from using all "hateful words" including the "n-word."

"We want to be the first place in the world to ask all of the comedians if they go on stage and use the 'n-word,' (it) comes out of their paycheck," Masada said.


http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/27/michaelrichards.ap/index.html
I'm so sick and tired of the double standard over this word when it is NOT a positive word no matter how you look at it. Just cut it out and everyone is stronger.

Red Dog
11-27-06, 08:31 PM
Yeah, good luck with that.

Charlie Goose
11-27-06, 08:32 PM
I don't really see this working.

Mopower
11-27-06, 08:34 PM
Yep. Let's start banning words that offend people. Once we get that out of the way we can start banning books and movies and people.

dick_grayson
11-27-06, 08:35 PM
Isn't there some rule abroad about calling someone a Nazi? Either way, this is going to ruin my rap career.

M2theAX
11-27-06, 08:39 PM
Ni66er please.

vaporware
11-27-06, 08:50 PM
http://www.esquire.com/features/articles/2006/061105_mfe_December_06_Essay_1.html

Red Dog
11-27-06, 08:51 PM
Yep. Let's start banning words that offend people. Once we get that out of the way we can start banning books and movies and people.


Santa Vaca!

Bacon
11-27-06, 08:53 PM
Ni66er please.
it's NI66AH please, you racist cracker

M2theAX
11-27-06, 08:59 PM
it's NI66AH please, you racist cracker

its Crackah to you, you racist :)

vaporware
11-27-06, 09:01 PM
Santa Vaca!

That's Bullshit!!

Bacon
11-27-06, 09:02 PM
its Crackah to you, you racist :)
:foot:

cdollaz
11-27-06, 09:39 PM
Considering 95% of the people I have heard use that word are black, that would obviously be a good place to start.

Anubis2005X
11-27-06, 09:55 PM
-popcorn-

Th0r S1mpson
11-27-06, 10:13 PM
Yep. Let's start banning words that offend people. Once we get that out of the way we can start banning books and movies and people.
Nobody is talking about banning anything. That is a completely different concept than taking responsibility for your speech.

das Monkey
11-27-06, 10:38 PM
Back to this, eh? They're words.

:lol: at the Laugh Factory banning "hateful words". Censoring stand-up comedy -- there's a bright idea. I wonder how long before this knee-jerk PC reaction gets the reverse reaction and is branded "racist" for disproportionately affecting black comics. Further, I wonder if it's Jesse Jackson who leads the charge again.

das

The Cow
11-27-06, 10:40 PM
Nobody is talking about banning anything. That is a completely different concept than taking responsibility for your speech.
Well, there is the forum filter here.

Th0r S1mpson
11-27-06, 10:52 PM
Well, there is the forum filter here.
In that case, yes, I am in favor of filtering/banning both the N word and the book forum.

Joe Molotov
11-27-06, 11:04 PM
Taking away our words? How niggardly of them.

Rogue588
11-27-06, 11:58 PM
This is just crazy talk. How would rappers greet each other?!??!

Goldblum
11-28-06, 12:01 AM
Taking the words away solves nothing.

kvrdave
11-28-06, 12:15 AM
Back to this, eh? They're words.

:lol: at the Laugh Factory banning "hateful words". Censoring stand-up comedy -- there's a bright idea. I wonder how long before this knee-jerk PC reaction gets the reverse reaction and is branded "racist" for disproportionately affecting black comics. Further, I wonder if it's Jesse Jackson who leads the charge again.

das

Agreed. And it would have deprived us of one of Dave Chappelle's greatest skits ever.

edstein
11-28-06, 12:33 AM
As chairman of the welcoming committee, it's a pleasure to present a Laurel and Hardy handshake to our new...

Th0r S1mpson
11-28-06, 12:40 AM
Taking the words away solves nothing.
Nobody said this would "solve" racism. But what does saying the words contribute to such a solution?

Is there really anything wrong with discouraging the use of it?

Josh-da-man
11-28-06, 12:54 AM
I think we should take the opposite approach: Normalize racial slurs.

The way we think is defined by language. We think in words, and those words have meanings.

When we take one group of words and make them forbidden, it then makes the thoughts they represent "bad."

So when we ban/censor/forbid racial slurs on the basis that they are bad, we are constantly reminding ourselves of racism.

Isn't the best solution to just stop caring?

If a racist can offend someone by calling them a "******" then that word gives the user a great deal of power if we collectively define it as an evil word. But if we normalize the word into everyday usage, it loses all of its power.

I would rather live in a world without racial slurs than one with them. And the only way to rid ourselves of them is to stop caring about them.

Th0r S1mpson
11-28-06, 01:01 AM
the only way to rid ourselves of them is to stop caring about them.
I stopped caring a while ago. And yet... the words remain! -eek-

spainlinx0
11-28-06, 09:51 AM
So much for The Wire.

Save Ferris
11-28-06, 09:53 AM
I love the chappelle show bit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GAAGklgTpg

Groucho
11-28-06, 10:02 AM
I think we should take the opposite approach: Normalize racial slurs.Good idea. I'll start by addressing the first black person I see with the n-word.

Note that I live in Utah, so this may take a while.

RunBandoRun
11-28-06, 10:03 AM
They should just outlaw hip-hop. That would take care of 99% of the incidences of this particular word being used. :lol: So they'd strike a blow for civility AND decent music in one fell swoop.

Maxwell Smart
11-28-06, 11:39 AM
What's up vanilla face?

Pistol Pete
11-28-06, 02:00 PM
[Jesse Jackson]Hey, look at me! I'm over here! Please, don't ignore me![/Jesse Jackson]

Obey The D
11-28-06, 02:06 PM
Note that I live in Utah, so this may take a while.

I take it you're not close to the EnergySolutions Arena?




;)

General Zod
11-28-06, 02:12 PM
Considering 95% of the people I have heard use that word are black, that would obviously be a good place to start.
No doubt. I remember back 30 years ago hearing Richard Pryor in his routines using the word repeatedly.. since then it's become a standard word in most black entertainers vocabulary and i've never heard anything about it. Now, all of a sudden Michael Richards (who 95% of the people said 'who!?!?') uses it in a nightclub in front of a couple hundred people and now all of a sudden the whole world need to stop using it right away!!! :lol: The stupidity and complete over-reaction of this from the so called "black leaders" has been astounding but nothing really suprises me anymore.

I'm sure Jesse just wants to see who he can shake down over this.

Morf
11-28-06, 02:24 PM
Sticks and stones might break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

I just came up with that off the top of my head. Feel free to pass it along.

tommy28
11-28-06, 02:24 PM
http://www.imageviper.com/displayimage.php?id=22976&name=nigga_please.jpg&thumb=0

Save Ferris
11-28-06, 02:47 PM
Heard on the radio just now that someone(a 'black leader'?) is calling for the boycott of the Seinfield 7th season DVD set.

I can only assume Richard Pryor and Chris Rock DVDs are boycotted already...

General Zod
11-28-06, 02:50 PM
I also heard someone say that all royalties that Michael Richards gets from the Season 7 dvd's he should donate to Black charities to show he's really sorry (I guess a verbal apology isn't enough anymore.. unless of course you are Tookie Williams who killed people. But if you use the dreaded 'N' word well an apology is not close to enough). I wonder why Mel Gibson isn't paying out to Jewish groups all the money he made on Passion.. ?

Save Ferris
11-28-06, 02:59 PM
I also heard someone say that all royalties that Michael Richards gets from the Season 7 dvd's he should donate to Black charities to show he's really sorry (I guess a verbal apology isn't enough anymore.. unless of course you are Tookie Williams who killed people. But if you use the dreaded 'N' word well an apology is not close to enough). I wonder why Mel Gibson isn't paying out to Jewish groups all the money he made on Passion.. ?

Ironically I think he did donate money to smooth things over. As well as Arnold Schwarzenegger when 'jewish groups' were concerned with his relatives ties to the Nazi party in WWII

Michael T Hudson
11-28-06, 03:00 PM
So much for The Wire.


:lol:

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr.
11-28-06, 03:01 PM
Heard on the radio just now that someone(a 'black leader'?) is calling for the boycott of the Seinfield 7th season DVD set.

I can only assume Richard Pryor and Chris Rock DVDs are boycotted already...

why aren't they boycotting seasons 1-6?

spainlinx0
11-28-06, 03:03 PM
Didn't Richard Pryor swear to stop using the N-word way back in 1979? Isn't it a little unfair to use him as an example?

From wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Pryor):Comfortably successful and into the zenith of his career, Pryor visited Africa in 1979. Upon returning to the United States, Pryor swore he would never use the word "******" in his stand-up comedy routine again. (His favorite epithet, "motherfucker", remains a term of endearment on his official website to this day.)

Save Ferris
11-28-06, 03:08 PM
can you still buy media with Pryor saying it? I just used him as an example because it was used in the post above mine.

Save Ferris
11-28-06, 03:09 PM
why aren't they boycotting seasons 1-6?

Probably because Richards doesnt say the N-word in those other seasons--duh!

Giles
11-28-06, 03:26 PM
They should just outlaw hip-hop. That would take care of 99% of the incidences of this particular word being used. :lol: So they'd strike a blow for civility AND decent music in one fell swoop.


what a novel idea? ;)

SleepyW
11-28-06, 04:20 PM
So is Cracker and Spic still okay? I'm half of each and just need to know if I can still call myself names.

bhk
11-28-06, 05:36 PM
As long as we can call Indians "Dot Heads" I don't care.

Save Ferris
11-28-06, 05:39 PM
As long as we can call Indians "Dot Heads" I don't care.

Now we have to look for a dot?!

SIGH this was so much easier when we could rely on skin color alone!

Breakfast with Girls
11-28-06, 06:20 PM
This is just crazy talk. How would rappers greet each other?!??!"Hello again, Snoop Dogg! Quite the weather we're having, wouldn't you say?"
"Quite, Dr. Dre! Do you care for some tea, sir?"
"Thank you, it looks delicious. Is it..? Ah, yes, Earl Grey&mdash;my favorite! Simply divine!"

DRG
11-28-06, 06:25 PM
I thought the reason it was used among blacks was to "take the power of the word away". The problem with that is that everyone still had the same reaction to the word when white people used it.

I think a better way to "take the power of the word back" would have been if black people used it in a derogative sense to white people instead of 'cracker' and never used it to refer to one another. Granted that's still exploiting a racial divide... but at least it would have put the term on equal footing as a general negative term towards someone of another race and not specifically an anti-black term.

Th0r S1mpson
11-28-06, 07:33 PM
I thought the reason it was used among blacks was to "take the power of the word away". The problem with that is that everyone still had the same reaction to the word when white people used it.
You said it, you complete moran.

*Note, I'm not calling you a complete moran, just trying to take the power away from those that call others complete morans.


Meant in good humor of course, and not directed as an attack against DRG. I'd wink 50 times because I mean this with the utmost sarcasm, but 50 winks would be annoying so please just understand and do not ban me. I mean no offense, honestly, sincerely and truly. Oh crap, don't ban me. I'm seriously being sarcastic. Seriously. Oh man.

DRG
11-28-06, 07:42 PM
You said it, you complete moran.

*Note, I'm not calling you a complete moran, just trying to take the power away from those that call others complete morans.

See, that's my point exactly. Anyone can call anyone else a complete moran with equal footing. The term is certainly insulting (I guess), but not discriminatory in nature. If everyone called everyone else ********** without specifically anti-black racial implications it would just become another insulting word like assh*le, shithead, or motherf*cker.

Bluelitespecial
11-28-06, 07:48 PM
I would like to see them try to tell that To Quentin Tarintino.

cultshock
11-28-06, 07:49 PM
Nobody is talking about banning anything.

Well apparently Jesse is:

The Rev. Jesse Jackson, a civil rights leader, and others said Monday they will meet with TV networks, film companies and musicians to discuss banning the racial slur that is a derogatory term for blacks.



Yeah Jesse, good luck with that. -ohbfrank-

Th0r S1mpson
11-28-06, 07:58 PM
Well apparently Jesse is:
Allow me to clarify... nobody is talking about banning anything legally. In other words, this is not a governmental free speech issue.

I have no problem with private organizations getting together to improve their content by agreeing to disallow certain things. If some networks agreed and others disagreed, that would give the consumer an obvious choice one way or another. If they all agreed, it's obviously a pretty good idea or the public backlash would cause them to reconsider. Similarly, would people really have a problem with a bunch of artists deciding not to use the word based on an anti-N-word movement?

Along with about everyone else here, I don't see this leading to much. But I don't see where the concern is.

4KRG
11-28-06, 08:12 PM
I would like to see them try to tell that To Quentin Tarintino.

Is there a sign in my front yard that says please bring your dead fucking ******s here?

:lol:

If black people would quit making such a big deal out of the word, it's power would disappear. However, having one lame stand up comedian use in during a show make a national outcry shows just how much power black people are still willing to let this word have.

I am an Italian-american (if I must classify myself that way), I have heard the term "WOP" on more than one occasion. I do not consider myself a stupid wop, so the words have no power against me, say them all you want, that is not me or how I see myself, therefore it has no power over me.

If black people as a whole would just shrug and go on with life looking at the people that use the word like they don't know what that person could possibly mean (n igger?? what is that?? shrug ,move on) the word would lose power and people would stop using it. Reactions like the one Richards stirred up keep the word alive and strong and gaining power everyday.

Asking for the word to be banned makes it even stronger...

cultshock
11-28-06, 08:22 PM
Allow me to clarify... nobody is talking about banning anything legally. In other words, this is not a governmental free speech issue.


OK, gotcha.


I still think that Jesse has a huge uphill battle ahead of him. And I don't think that it would help. Making something "forbidden" sure doesn't make it go away. If anything, it arouses even more curiousity and interest in the subject. Gives it more power, etc, etc., the same argument one always hears.

darkflounder
11-28-06, 08:29 PM
As long as we can call Indians "Dot Heads" I don't care.

What kind of Indians? Slushee or Casino?

Duran
11-28-06, 09:25 PM
Santa Vaca!

:lol: That woman on Bullshit! was hilarious.

WOWZY
11-29-06, 12:44 AM
The "N" word is all about money!! You guys are absolutley dead-on about this word being so powerful. It's an endless cycle.

(scenario) Another race calls a Black person the "N" word and the Black person uses this word to whine for money. Then this makes the other races mad, so they stupidly use the "N" word again and they whine for money again and so on and so on...

I'm "Peach color Crayon" and several years back I wondered why Black people get so outraged over a racial word and the rest of the world shrugs off their own particular racial word and they get on with their lives. So I asked some of my Black friends about it and they have told me that most Black people are like the rest of the world and it doesn't really bother them either. For the lazy ones, it is an excuse to whine for some sort of restitution and to stir up trouble. In other words, to get ahead financially without the hard work.

This was told to me by some of the best friends that a man could have and they have gotten to where they are financially by hard work alone. There are many people of all races that realize the integrity of working hard and how it can catapult you to a much higher level than sitting on your ass, whining and eating government cheese.

I blame all of this on my government and all races for letting this whining for money carry on. If we had put a stop too it when it first began with the words "So what?,Just suck it up", Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have real jobs right now and the "N" word would fizzle out.

dork
11-29-06, 12:52 AM
The "N" word is all about money!! You guys are absolutley dead-on about this word being so powerful. It's an endless cycle.

(scenario) Another race calls a Black person the "N" word and the Black person uses this word to whine for money. Then this makes the other races mad, so they stupidly use the "N" word again and they whine for money again and so on and so on...

I'm "Peach color Crayon" and several years back I wondered why Black people get so outraged over a racial word and the rest of the world shrugs off their own particular racial word and they get on with their lives. So I asked some of my Black friends about it and they have told me that most Black people are like the rest of the world and it doesn't really bother them either. For the lazy ones, it is an excuse to whine for some sort of restitution and to stir up trouble. In other words, to get ahead financially without the hard work.

This was told to me by some of the best friends that a man could have and they have gotten to where they are financially by hard work alone. There are many people of all races that realize the integrity of working hard and how it can catapult you to a much higher level than sitting on your ass, whining and eating government cheese.

I blame all of this on my government and all races for letting this whining for money carry on. If we had put a stop too it when it first began with the words "So what?,Just suck it up", Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have real jobs right now and the "N" word would fizzle out.
Wowzy.

Giantrobo
11-29-06, 03:07 AM
why aren't they boycotting seasons 1-6?



I didn't know the blacks watched any of the seasons. :lol:

Save Ferris
11-29-06, 04:42 PM
Its getting worse than I thought :(
http://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/picbox-cleanout-d4-5.jpg

wm lopez
11-29-06, 09:05 PM
I agree with Originally Posted by WOWZY.
The same can be said for Mexicans too.
A while back here in Chicago we had one of those AMERICAN GIRL DOLLS that come with a story describing the doll. The doll was supposed to be a mexican girl living in Chicago's Pilson area. The story described how bad the area was. Well, the mexican community wasn't too happy with this and wanted a boycott. Sound familar? The mexicans marched around the offices and demanded that they hire mexicans and send area mexicans in Pilson to collage. Their beef was that Pilson isn't as dangerous as the story of the doll says. But drive-by shootings like one that happened this week say otherwise. The AMERICAN DOLL didn't give in to the mexican community and that was good.

raven56706
11-29-06, 09:22 PM
About TIME! :up::up:

We'll see how it takes, but MAN, would this be refreshing or WHAT?!?!


I'm so sick and tired of the double standard over this word when it is NOT a positive word no matter how you look at it. Just cut it out and everyone is stronger.


tell snoop or the ATL members....yeah ok... never going to happen...

HistoryProf
11-29-06, 11:41 PM
Is there a sign in my front yard that says please bring your dead fucking ******s here?

:lol:

It's "Dead ****** storage" -ohbfrank-

maxfisher
11-30-06, 08:59 AM
Allow me to clarify... nobody is talking about banning anything legally. In other words, this is not a governmental free speech issue.

From the original article:

Asked about free-speech issues, Jackson said the word is "unprotected."

Couldn't say for sure without knowing the full question/quote, but that sounds like treading into the realm of legally banning it.

As for the word, I agree with those who have said black people need to quit giving it power. For the forseeable future, we're pretty much stuck with abiding some racist groups of people. As long as the word has the power to insult to the point of causing irrationality and/or violence, those groups will use it, and it will instigate more racism, or at least create tension between people of different races. I know some would find it horribly offensive, but I find the idea about black people using the word back at white people to be kind of interesting. If it were downgraded to a synonym for asshole, regardless of race, it would definitely rob the word of a lot of its power. Probably unrealistic to think that could ever happen, but it would probably be a good thing if it did.

General Zod
11-30-06, 01:26 PM
Jackson also asked the public not to buy a DVD box set of the seventh season of the TV show "Seinfeld" that was released last week.
Sorry Jesse..

'SEINFELD' SOARS ON RACIST RANT

November 30, 2006 -- THE K-K-Kramer scandal murdered Michael Richards' career - but it's doing wonders for sales of the latest "Seinfeld" DVD.

Season 7 of the popular sitcom is outselling the Season 6 set (released on the same day last year) by more than 75 percent, and more than 90 percent over season 5 at some online DVD retailers, according to TMZ.com.

On Barnes and Nobel's Web site, the DVD set is the sixth-best selling and Amazon ranks it in 12th place.

"I think the only explanation that could be is that there's a Kramer curiosity factor," says Dr. Robert Thompson, director of Syracuse University's Center for the Study of Popular Television.

"I can understand that, after what happened, there's a resurgent interest in 'Seinfeld,' and that seems to be expressing itself through people watching the show more and buying more DVDs.

"Boy, is it ever weird to watch 'Seinfeld' now," Thompson added.

Richards "carries baggage, when you see this happy-go-lucky guy barge into that apartment and talk about being 'master of his domain.' That really means something different now."

A video-phone recording of Richards exploding in a hateful, racist rant while performing his stand-up comedy act earlier this month leaked onto the Internet just days before the season 7 DVD set was released.

RunBandoRun
11-30-06, 02:45 PM
Jesse Jackson's lucky that nobody is talking about banning honorary degrees in divinity obtained from institutions that the honoree's son heads, years after said honoree flunked out of Bible college. :lol:

iggystar
11-30-06, 03:13 PM
I find it so funny that in a forum where a person will go ballistic if another doesn't agree with their opinion that The Matrix sucks, there are many posters saying that black people should ignore the "n" word, that it shouldn't give it power. Pul-ease. People care about words.

Words convey the sentiment behind the person using it, if someone is hurling the "n" word in anger then what I'm I to think? Oh, that's such a nice person who likes me? Oh, I won't give that word power. I've had that word hurled at me and while I didn't try to sue anyone, it still didn't feel very good either.

Words have power. Do they have the ulitmate power? No. Should a person go off the deep end because of mere words? No. But that doesn't mean that words are completely arbitrary.

So as far as a black person using the "n"...well, if it will stop everyone using it and the subsequent, "what's the big deal" copouts then fine, "ban" the usage. The word has negative connotations, there's nothing that can be done to change it, so let's just stop using it period. Go call your wife the "c" word and tell her...it's just a word, don't give it power.

RunBandoRun
11-30-06, 03:25 PM
So as far as a black person using the "n"...well, if it will stop everyone using it and the subsequent, "what's the big deal" copouts then fine, "ban" the usage. The word has negative connotations, there's nothing that can be done to change it, so let's just stop using it period. Go call your wife the "c" word and tell her...it's just a word, don't give it power.

I agree. Don't be calling me a dyke, either. I don't care if those academic separatist broads in the overalls with no bra want to be called that ... it ain't me.

Turd Ferguson
11-30-06, 11:21 PM
Fuck Jesse Jackson and his roving Rent-A-Riot of professional beggars.

Teca
12-01-06, 05:22 AM
So...let me get this straight. It's ok for black person to call another black person a ****** but if a white person calls a black person a ******, all of the sudden were back in the civil rights era? Give me a fucking break.

If you're offended by the word "******" then you need to get your cotton picking ass out of 1960 and welcome yourself to 2006.

iggystar
12-01-06, 08:36 AM
So...let me get this straight. It's ok for black person to call another black person a ****** but if a white person calls a black person a ******, all of the sudden were back in the civil rights era? Give me a fucking break.

If you're offended by the word "******" then you need to get your cotton picking ass out of 1960 and welcome yourself to 2006.

Um, I think the general concensus is that the word although used without regard in the past shouldn't be used at all. Or did you miss this point?

That's OK because your eloquence is amazing.

emanon
12-01-06, 08:43 AM
The mexicans marched around the offices and demanded that they hire mexicans and send area mexicans in Pilson to collage.

http://sbc-churches.net/crosswell/PICS/Mexico/Collage.JPG

-confused-

Da Badass
12-01-06, 11:56 AM
In the TV forum someone made a video making fun of Kramer for saying the N word in his show. How come black people are so angry with him for saying the N word when they say it all the time. I have never said the N word and don't want to. But that is bullshit!

Dr. Henry Jones, Jr.
12-01-06, 11:57 AM
I say whatever I want

Groucho
12-01-06, 11:57 AM
I'm thinking of moving to Asskick Street. How are the schools there?

RunBandoRun
12-01-06, 12:00 PM
Groucho: Your kid better have a good right hook. :lol:

jw2299
12-01-06, 12:02 PM
I'm thinking of moving to Asskick Street. How are the schools there?

Schools are okay but the taxes will, well you know.

Th0r S1mpson
12-01-06, 12:06 PM
In the TV forum someone made a video making fun of Kramer for saying the N word in his show. How come black people are so angry with him for saying the N word when they say it all the time. I have never said the N word and don't want to. But that is bullshit!
You'd have to ask an African-Canadian. :shrug:

dork
12-01-06, 12:11 PM
Leave it to a foreigner to discover a brand new perspective on a contentious issue. :up:

kvrdave
12-01-06, 12:17 PM
Legitimate fear and political correctness.

We rednecks don't get the same treatment. :(

FantasticVSDoom
12-01-06, 12:18 PM
Well, come on its obvious isnt it. I mean it was Kramer for God Sakes!!!

Teca
12-01-06, 12:19 PM
Um, I think the general concensus is that the word although used without regard in the past shouldn't be used at all. Or did you miss this point?

That's OK because your eloquence is amazing.

I just wanted to get something off my chest and I felt it was appropriate to do that here.

Teca
12-01-06, 12:49 PM
He's a celebrity and everyone loves to pick on celebrities.

Mopower
12-01-06, 12:53 PM
Finally the voice of common sense.

The Bus
12-01-06, 01:01 PM
This is an interesting topic and I'm glad it's been brought up. It's certainly never been discussed here.