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View Full Version : Veronica Mars -- "Charlie Don't Surf" -- 10/24/06


LorenzoL
10-24-06, 06:05 AM
"Charlie Don't Surf"
Logan enlists Veronica's help in sorting through his financial records when he is informed that his inheritance is running low; Harmony (Laura San Giacomo) hires Keith to investigate her cheating husband.
Cast: Kristen Bell, Percy Daggs III, Teddy Dunn, Jason Dohring, Francis Capra, Enrico Colantoni, Tessa Thompson, Matt Czuchry, Laura San Giacomo, Tina Majorino, Ryan Hansen , Julie Gonzalo, Chris Lowell.
Director(s): Jason Bloom.
Producer(s): Joel Silver, Rob Thomas.
Writer(s): Diane Ruggiero, Jason Elen .

Original Airdate: October 24, 2006.

SuperBatMan
10-24-06, 08:32 AM
I hope the rapist mystery starts picking up, or at least Veronica mentions it more than once.

Last week's mention almost seemed like a quick 'oops! we forgot to have Veronica mention the rapist in the script. Quick, set up a scene where she briefly mentions it!'. You think Veronica would be a WHOLE lot more interested in it after what happened to her, but :shrug:

rfduncan
10-24-06, 10:11 AM
I think things have to start moving, especially now that Weevil is out and about on campus! :D:up:

monkey42
10-24-06, 09:56 PM
When I was visiting San Diego this summer, I saw them filming the scene inside the convience store.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.php?p=7259471&postcount=43

I tried to see if I could see myself in the background, but I couldn't see fast enough, and my TiVo doesn't have enough quality. Anyone have a hi-def screen grab of her walking in?

aktick
10-24-06, 10:23 PM
Kind of annoying that they have to keep so many people out of every ep for budget reasons - 2 weeks in a row no Wallace, no Wallace's roommate this week, no Mac again, and no Weevil. Oh well, if that's what it takes to keep the show on the air, they could have VM and Keith and nobody else and I'd watch.

dolphinboy
10-24-06, 11:34 PM
Kind of annoying that they have to keep so many people out of every ep for budget reasons - 2 weeks in a row no Wallace, no Wallace's roommate this week, no Mac again, and no Weevil. Oh well, if that's what it takes to keep the show on the air, they could have VM and Keith and nobody else and I'd watch.

I have a huge problem with people (especially Mac) totally disappearing supposedly because of the budget.

This season, so far, isn't a huge upgrade over last season and I'm finding it kind of uninspiring.

If it keeps up, I might not care if they end things...just as long as they let them do a full season to do it.

They have about 5 people too many people on the CBS show The Class...why can't they fire them and loan some of that money to the people at the WB so Weevil and MAC can really be regulars? Not just regulars in title only.

Patman
10-25-06, 12:22 AM
I thought it was an above average season 3 episode. It was neat to see the "Just Shoot Me" reunion between Keith and Harmony. Was Parker's head shaved? Her hair looks normal (not a wig).

Josh-da-man
10-25-06, 02:01 AM
Agreed that the cast seems to big to handle.

Seems like they should've just cut back to a core group of Veronica, Wallace, Keith, and Logan. I don't know why some of these people who should only pop up every now and then like Lamb and Dick are "regulars." Wouldn't that jack up the budget putting all of these people don't use regularly in the credits?

Money issues aside, how many of these people are going to be able to work into every single storyline?

MrX
10-25-06, 03:35 AM
Veronica calling the asian frat guy token was funny:lol:

I liked the "Just Shoot Me" reunion as well

sven
10-25-06, 06:39 AM
This season is boring the shit out of me. Veronica looks crappier than ever(long hair for the loss!), the missing persons are annoying, and the main mystery once again just seems so unimportant. Just like they did with Meg they turned Piper into a bitch so why the fuck should I care who raped her?

At this point I dont care if they cancel the show or not. The only reason I'm still watching is because there is nothing else on Tuesday nights worth watching.

kaze0
10-25-06, 07:03 AM
This season isn't doing anything for me either. I do like Veronica's look better though.

rfduncan
10-25-06, 09:02 AM
They have about 5 people too many people on the CBS show The Class...why can't they fire them and loan some of that money to the people at the WB so Weevil and MAC can really be regulars? Not just regulars in title only.
You know I was just thinking that on Monday night. That show has SO MANY cast members that there's never any setup for anything funny. They just cram everything in there for 22 minutes.

I thought this episode was okay. The central mystery was only a "step" in solving the real rape thing. So was Maya Gallo (Laura San Giacomo) hitting on Elliott DiMauro(Enrico Colantoni) again? ;) This storyline was a tad transparent. I'm suspecting that it will come back ... in the beginning Keith didn't even know she was married. Anyone suspect that she may NOT be married to that guy and is essentially having Keith do the stalking for her? She just seemed to pull that "and my daughter" out of her repertoire whenever necessary....

Charlie Goose
10-25-06, 09:53 AM
I don't know if anyone has speculated this in previous VM threads, but my theory for the rapist
is that it will turn out to be a female. Maybe the editor of the school newspaper.

By the way, My Veronica is more beautiful than ever.

mdc3000
10-25-06, 10:02 AM
I agree with Charlie's theory. I like this season a lot. The characters and dialogue are sustaining it for me...sure they aren't doing much PLOT wise, but I'll take any Veronica I can get... loved ANOTHER Lebowski reference "Watch it man there's a beverage here!"

MATT

wergo
10-25-06, 10:13 AM
I'd buy into Charlie's theory if V were making a few less Lesbowski references and a few more Nip/Tuck ones. Unless it turns out to be Trina. Any excuse to get Alyson Hannigan back on the show is a good excuse as far as I'm concerned.

My guess is that we still haven't met the rapist yet. In season one they didn't introduce Aaron Echolls until long after the audience were trying to figure out whodunnit. They may well be playing the same game again here.

Or it might turn out that Veronica was WRONG last year and it WAS her ex-boyfriend who raped Maebe Funke. Maybe he heard about the MO and is now a copycat. Remember, V didn't prove that he DIDN'T do it, only that someone else was doing the same thing before he got there.

Jimmy James
10-25-06, 10:32 AM
I'd buy into Charlie's theory if V were making a few less Lesbowski references and a few more Nip/Tuck ones.

Yep. Rob Thomas has never struck me as being obsessed with Ryan Murphy.

My guess is that we still haven't met the rapist yet.

That would be a real disappointment. They had a whole season to solve the Kane mystery. We're nearing the conclusion of this arc already if I understand the season layout right.

rfduncan
10-25-06, 10:44 AM
My guess is that we still haven't met the rapist yet. In season one they didn't introduce Aaron Echolls until long after the audience were trying to figure out whodunnit. They may well be playing the same game again here.
What? You mean when he first appears in episode SIX? :hscratch:

I might give you that if there weren't supposed to be mini-arcs this season. Judging by that, I'd say we've definitely encountered the rapist by now and should have this tied up relatively soon.

Or it might turn out that Veronica was WRONG last year and it WAS her ex-boyfriend who raped Maebe Funke.
The problem with THAT is that GRAFF would have had to have been the copycat since other girls had been raped in the same fashion Stacy (Alia Shawkat) had during Graff's college visit. It is clearly someone who attended Herst last year and is still a student/on staff.

Mittman
10-25-06, 10:57 AM
I was rolling after Dick's "They'rrrrrreeeee heeeerrrreeee." line

Jimmy James
10-25-06, 11:17 AM
The question in my mind is who the most shocking rapist would be. Keith would be the most shocking, but I think we can exclude him for two reasons. He was in the desert when Mac's roomie was raped, and this show is largely about Keith's relationship with Veronica.

Logan would be the next most shocking rapist. That would be a pretty damned jarring way to end the romance I think most people see ending, but it would have the effect of leaving us without the Logan character. I doubt that would happen.

I'd count Wallace as the next most shocking candidate. That would really come out of nowhere.

I think one of the professors or the president of the college would be the most shocking rapist that I could actually see being the rapist.

rfduncan
10-25-06, 12:25 PM
I'd count Wallace as the next most shocking candidate. That would really come out of nowhere.

I think one of the professors or the president of the college would be the most shocking rapist that I could actually see being the rapist.
Again since there were rapes prior to Wallace's visit to Hearst last season, that seems unlikely.

wergo
10-25-06, 01:48 PM
Again since there were rapes prior to Wallace's visit to Hearst last season, that seems unlikely.

We're still not sure there's only ONE rapist, though. I haven't seen any reason not to believe there may be copycats out there. The original rapist may well have stopped before 'Rapes Of Graff' and someone else may just be following the same MO. I wonder if the cops have learned anything of a CSI-type nature that might be hidden from the students. (I still find it odd that the victims' names have been so public.)

Brent_MN
10-25-06, 03:00 PM
so Ed Begley, Jr. did it?

I think it sucks that Weevil wasn't around, Wallace too...but Mac, whatever. Is it really for budget reasons? I guess I never read anything about that. Suck.

One of my favorite lines was, "Are you going as a hypocrite?"

Rypro 525
10-25-06, 05:43 PM
well good news regarding ratings
3.27m
2.99m
3.22m
3.31m

while its not keeping GG's numbers, its been consistant and risen a few thousand people a week, so that could be good news as far as getting a full season (and these numbers are better then last season by about 500,000 people.

Jimmy James
10-25-06, 05:45 PM
so Ed Begley, Jr. did it?

I think that's the most shocking likely option, yes.

SuperBatMan
10-25-06, 05:53 PM
Did everyone just not see Wallace in this episode, or was it such a small part that everybody just disregarded it?:shrug:

I miss Mac though.

Jimmy James
10-25-06, 06:01 PM
Now that you mention it, I clearly remember him being in the episode (saying he liked Veronica's last job better). I admit I didn't remember him being in it well enough to contradict the people saying he wasn't in the episode, though.

Patman
10-25-06, 06:01 PM
Wallace and Veronica had a small scene together at the library.

Brent_MN
10-25-06, 06:18 PM
dunno if anyone saw this, but here's a great interview with Rob Thomas...very spoileriffic!

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1549635_3_0_,00.html

Jimmy James
10-25-06, 06:35 PM
After reading that interview...

...now I get where the female rapist faction is coming from. They're not suggesting a woman is actually raping these women, perhaps. They might be suggesting that there is a woman or group of women who are following around women who are date raped by men and then shave their heads and do whatever else makes the rapes REALLY obvious and upsetting. I'm not suggesting that date rape by itself is a minor thing, but I imagine that most date rapes are like Veronica's rape -- they're kept quiet. The head shaving changes that because it leaves the woman changed in a way that can't be hidden. Am I on to what you woman rapist folks were talking about?

mikehunt
10-25-06, 07:13 PM
not trying to :crap:, but the thread title requires me to post a pic of Col. Kilgore
http://images.artwanted.com/large/24/24208_363624.jpg

movieking
10-25-06, 07:24 PM
Man, time has not been kind to Laura San Giacomo. Did time take her upper teeth? It didn't look like she had any when she opened her mouth. Good to see her and Keith together though. Waiting for Finch to show up.

Jimmy James
10-25-06, 07:26 PM
Man, time has not been kind to Laura San Giacomo. Did time take her upper teeth? It didn't look like she had any when she opened her mouth. Good to see her and Keith together though. Waiting for Finch to show up.

I'd like to hope that they were roughing up her look with makeup and the like, but I'm not sure. Maybe we can find some recent publicity photos...

ETA: It looks to me like it's about half age and about half makeup...

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/4873/Events/4873/LauraSanGi_Grani_8927254_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=San%20Giacomo,%20Laura

monkey42
10-25-06, 10:40 PM
http://www.webdice.net/vmars4.jpg

Yeah, that's totally me in the background. I rule!

her34
10-25-06, 11:30 PM
well good news regarding ratings
3.27m
2.99m
3.22m
3.31m

while its not keeping GG's numbers, its been consistant and risen a few thousand people a week, so that could be good news as far as getting a full season (and these numbers are better then last season by about 500,000 people.

do you know what the corresponding ratings for gilmore girls are?

Patman
10-25-06, 11:34 PM
GG does about 5.

Nth Power
10-25-06, 11:43 PM
While I'm enjoying the season so far, it seems with many of the supporting cast popping in and out, they don't really get a chance to develop as characters and it results in the cast as a whole seem rather shallow. I'd like to see some of them get more involved somehow, as so far this season it seems like everyone's off doing their own thing.

Jimmy James
10-25-06, 11:55 PM
While I'm enjoying the season so far, it seems with many of the supporting cast popping in and out, they don't really get a chance to develop as characters and it results in the cast as a whole seem rather shallow. I'd like to see some of them get more involved somehow, as so far this season it seems like everyone's off doing their own thing.

Now that you mention this, I think it might actually be intentional that we're seeing episodes without a lot of the cast. When you say that everybody is off doing their own thing, that sounds *precisely* to me how life was my first year of college. Remember, they bought Wallace for a whole episode on Tuesday. They chose to only have him there for a second.

Rypro 525
10-26-06, 05:39 PM
Wow, I am the first to mention the whole Logan meets Logan bit towards the end of the episode.

Does anyone think Dick did the rapes? I do believe that we have met this person before.