Philips DVP 5960 (HDMI) on sale at CC for 69.99
06-06-06, 05:07 PM
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Philips DVP 5960 (HDMI) on sale at CC for 69.99
I'm gearing up to upgrade my philips 642 (which I love) to the DVP5960. It has all the same features as the 642 (region free hack, PAL to NTSC, divx/xvid) plus it has it support for divx 6.0, upscales to 1080i and has HDMI output and USB 1.1 input.
No s-video output though.
If you need more then one - there is a 15 off 100 coupon at CC retailers for fathers day. Goes active 6/9
I'm getting two (1 for me and 1 for a friend) on Friday. I let you know how it goes.
No s-video output though.
If you need more then one - there is a 15 off 100 coupon at CC retailers for fathers day. Goes active 6/9
I'm getting two (1 for me and 1 for a friend) on Friday. I let you know how it goes.
06-07-06, 11:40 PM
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You can find the hack at videohelp.com. Just click on "DVD Hacks" on the left-hand side and then type the model number. It's a simple hack by just punching in a few numbers on your remote.
06-08-06, 10:40 AM
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There's a review of this player here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Philips_DVP5...2.html?tag=nav
One of the customer reviews at the bottom claims it can't pass DTS. Anyone confirm this?
http://reviews.cnet.com/Philips_DVP5...2.html?tag=nav
One of the customer reviews at the bottom claims it can't pass DTS. Anyone confirm this?
06-08-06, 01:33 PM
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For the lazy,
Region Hack:
1. Turn on the unit
2. Open the loading tray
3. Press the "Setup" button on the remote
4. Navigate to the "Preferences" page using the right arrow key
5. Enter 138931
6. You will now see the current region code displayed
7. Use the Up/Down arrow keys to select the region required or "0" for all regions
8. Press the "Setup" button on the remote
9. Press "OK" on the remote
Now onto other things, I'm not sure how true this is (I don't have a CC near me to check) but there some issues creeping up:
NO DTS
NO Optical audio out
NO upscale over component
If this is true, WTH Philips? I find this type of skimping to be odd. More so on the supposed lack of DTS. My Toshiba from 99 does DTS.
Region Hack:
1. Turn on the unit
2. Open the loading tray
3. Press the "Setup" button on the remote
4. Navigate to the "Preferences" page using the right arrow key
5. Enter 138931
6. You will now see the current region code displayed
7. Use the Up/Down arrow keys to select the region required or "0" for all regions
8. Press the "Setup" button on the remote
9. Press "OK" on the remote
Now onto other things, I'm not sure how true this is (I don't have a CC near me to check) but there some issues creeping up:
NO DTS
NO Optical audio out
NO upscale over component
If this is true, WTH Philips? I find this type of skimping to be odd. More so on the supposed lack of DTS. My Toshiba from 99 does DTS.
06-08-06, 01:49 PM
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re: the DTS, I'm confused on this point. It has a digital coaxial output, so wouldn't it just feed into your A/V receiver (assuming it has a DTS decoder)? In other words, it has no built in DTS decoder but the player should be able to pass the signal. Is it that most people prefer to have the decoders on the player vs the receiver?
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06-08-06, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dleedlee
In other words, it has no built in DTS decoder but the player should be able to pass the signal.
06-08-06, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dullboy
Not necessarily so. I bought a Trutech DVD Recorder and had a coaxial cable connecting it and my DTS receiver, and still no go. If a player isn't set to play DTS, regardless of decoder, you can't hear it.
06-08-06, 03:12 PM
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I went onto the Philips website and did a chat with a rep to settle the whole DTS Debacle. This is what I got:
Customer Service ...
Customer Service ... Good day! This is Laurie of the Customer Care Department. How may I help you today?
User306/Guest y
User306/Guest Hi
User306/Guest I have a question on the dvp5960
User306/Guest is it true it does not support DTS? As in if i have DTS only disc there will be no sound?
Customer Service ... I'll be happy to assist you.
Customer Service ... Will you give me a minute a or two as I check on this information?
User306/Guest sure
Customer Service ... Thank you for waiting. Yes, this player does not support DTS.
Customer Service ...
User306/Guest Well. crap. Is there a compariable unit that does?
Customer Service ... Let me check. Please give me another minute or two as I check.
User306/Guest ok
User306/Guest thanks
Customer Service ...
Customer Service ... Thank you for waiting. You could check the model number dvp3040/37 and dvp5140.
User306/Guest ok. excellent
User306/Guest thank you
Well, crap d00d. w/o DTS this player is useless to me. Not that my ears can tell the difference between dolby and dts on my puny sound system but I come across a lot of discs overseas that are DTS only. Oh well. I'll just keep my trusty 642 around.
Customer Service ...
Customer Service ... Good day! This is Laurie of the Customer Care Department. How may I help you today?
User306/Guest y
User306/Guest Hi
User306/Guest I have a question on the dvp5960
User306/Guest is it true it does not support DTS? As in if i have DTS only disc there will be no sound?
Customer Service ... I'll be happy to assist you.
Customer Service ... Will you give me a minute a or two as I check on this information?
User306/Guest sure
Customer Service ... Thank you for waiting. Yes, this player does not support DTS.
Customer Service ...
User306/Guest Well. crap. Is there a compariable unit that does?
Customer Service ... Let me check. Please give me another minute or two as I check.
User306/Guest ok
User306/Guest thanks
Customer Service ...
Customer Service ... Thank you for waiting. You could check the model number dvp3040/37 and dvp5140.
User306/Guest ok. excellent
User306/Guest thank you
Well, crap d00d. w/o DTS this player is useless to me. Not that my ears can tell the difference between dolby and dts on my puny sound system but I come across a lot of discs overseas that are DTS only. Oh well. I'll just keep my trusty 642 around.
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07-04-06, 02:42 AM
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Isn't it the case that it does not have a 5.1 decoder build-in, but is able to forward the DD signal to a A/V receiver which can decode 5.1? It does support Dolby Digital according to the specs.
From www.dolby.com:
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/techno...faq_1.html#q10
From the dvp9560 Manual:
PDF:
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/d/d...05_pss_eng.pdf
From www.dolby.com:
10. Do all program sources with Dolby Digital decoding provide
5.1-channel sound?
As with Dolby Digital program material, "Dolby Digital" on a component such as a DVD player indicates that it incorporates Dolby Digital decoding, but not the number of channels.
Many program sources, including all DVD players and digital cable set-top boxes, provide a built-in, two-channel Dolby Digital decoder with analog stereo outputs. For 5.1-channel playback, most units have a separate digital output for connection to an external unit, such as an A/V receiver, that has its own 5.1-channel Dolby Digital decoder.
Some DVD players do provide a built-in Dolby Digital 5.1-channel decoder with multiple analog outputs that can be connected directly to a "Dolby Digital-ready" receiver, as described in question 11, for 5.1-channel sound. However, you will not be able to use the internal Dolby Digital decoder for other program sources, and these players don't offer the full range of options provided by external Dolby Digital decoder units. On the other hand, they are an inexpensive way to upgrade to 5.1-channel Dolby Digital initially, and provide a digital output so that you can later bypass the built-in decoder and use an external one.
5.1-channel sound?
As with Dolby Digital program material, "Dolby Digital" on a component such as a DVD player indicates that it incorporates Dolby Digital decoding, but not the number of channels.
Many program sources, including all DVD players and digital cable set-top boxes, provide a built-in, two-channel Dolby Digital decoder with analog stereo outputs. For 5.1-channel playback, most units have a separate digital output for connection to an external unit, such as an A/V receiver, that has its own 5.1-channel Dolby Digital decoder.
Some DVD players do provide a built-in Dolby Digital 5.1-channel decoder with multiple analog outputs that can be connected directly to a "Dolby Digital-ready" receiver, as described in question 11, for 5.1-channel sound. However, you will not be able to use the internal Dolby Digital decoder for other program sources, and these players don't offer the full range of options provided by external Dolby Digital decoder units. On the other hand, they are an inexpensive way to upgrade to 5.1-channel Dolby Digital initially, and provide a digital output so that you can later bypass the built-in decoder and use an external one.
From the dvp9560 Manual:
Digital Audio Setup
The options included in Digital Audio
Setup are: ‘Digital Output’ and ‘LPCM
Output’.
1 In ‘AUDIO SETUP PAGE’, press 3 4 to
highlight {DIGITAL AUDIO SETUP}, then
press 2.
2 Press the 3 4 keys to highlight an option.
3 Enter its submenu by pressing 2.
4 Press 3 4 to select a setting, then press
OK to confirm your selection.
Digital Output
Set the Digital output according to your
optional audio equipment connection.
➜Off: Turn off the digital output.
➜All: If you have connected your
DIGITAL AUDIO OUT to a multi-channel
decoder/receiver.
➜PCM Only: Only if your receiver is
not capable of decoding multi-channel
audio.
Helpful Hint:
– If DIGITAL OUTPUT is set to ‘All’, all
audio settings except MUTE are invalid.
The options included in Digital Audio
Setup are: ‘Digital Output’ and ‘LPCM
Output’.
1 In ‘AUDIO SETUP PAGE’, press 3 4 to
highlight {DIGITAL AUDIO SETUP}, then
press 2.
2 Press the 3 4 keys to highlight an option.
3 Enter its submenu by pressing 2.
4 Press 3 4 to select a setting, then press
OK to confirm your selection.
Digital Output
Set the Digital output according to your
optional audio equipment connection.
➜Off: Turn off the digital output.
➜All: If you have connected your
DIGITAL AUDIO OUT to a multi-channel
decoder/receiver.
➜PCM Only: Only if your receiver is
not capable of decoding multi-channel
audio.
Helpful Hint:
– If DIGITAL OUTPUT is set to ‘All’, all
audio settings except MUTE are invalid.
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/d/d...05_pss_eng.pdf
07-06-06, 01:28 PM
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yes, it supports DD digital via passthru but not DTS passthru. This isn't a problem for most US discs because they support both (DD and DTS) but I have few discs from overseas that do not have a DD track (Jackie Chan's The Myth comes to mind) only DTS so there wouldn't be any sound at all.
07-06-06, 04:27 PM
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Why did they take a step back? I mean the video is hdmi, but they stopped supporting dts? Doesn't make sense to me... Somebody needs to buy this and test it out.
07-06-06, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by zerotl
Why did they take a step back? I mean the video is hdmi, but they stopped supporting dts? Doesn't make sense to me... Somebody needs to buy this and test it out.
09-04-06, 02:46 AM
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Firmware upgrade
There is a firmware upgrade available at the Philips website, version # ends with .34 while my installed out of the box version was .17.
I upgraded yesterday (Sep 3 2006 ) and now it does transmit DTS on the digital out! You'll need a DTS capable receiver to do the decoding.
Several other issues are solved too with this new firmware.
Regards, QubyB
I upgraded yesterday (Sep 3 2006 ) and now it does transmit DTS on the digital out! You'll need a DTS capable receiver to do the decoding.
Several other issues are solved too with this new firmware.
Regards, QubyB
09-04-06, 01:13 PM
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Where are you seeing this firmware version? The one I see on the website is 37.06.42.29 and was updated August 23rd. Can you provide a link to the one you are talking about?
09-05-06, 11:43 AM
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Well, I found out for myself. I bought the player and used the #29 firmware upgrade that's on the Philips site right now. I confirm that it works, so all those who want this player, THE DVP 5960 IS NOW DTS COMPATIBLE.
However, I do have a problem. The video image is slightly squashed when in 1080i mode. On a 1.85:1 aspect ratio, it should fill the screen on a 16:9 TV, however with this Philips player, you get a small sliver of a black bar at the bottom of the screen. Black bars on 2.35:1 movies are also a tad thicker and if you look carefully, faces aren't as oval-shaped as they should be. The effect is minor, but it is there. I think I'll be taking this player back to the store as well....and on goes the search.
However, I do have a problem. The video image is slightly squashed when in 1080i mode. On a 1.85:1 aspect ratio, it should fill the screen on a 16:9 TV, however with this Philips player, you get a small sliver of a black bar at the bottom of the screen. Black bars on 2.35:1 movies are also a tad thicker and if you look carefully, faces aren't as oval-shaped as they should be. The effect is minor, but it is there. I think I'll be taking this player back to the store as well....and on goes the search.
09-08-06, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NitroJMS
Anyone know if this new firmware also fixes the issue with the optical out reverting to 2.0 instead of outputting 5.1 while the HDMI is in use?
http://www.p4c.philips.com/na4/d/dvp...37_fur_eng.pdf
09-10-06, 06:25 PM
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Sweet, I might have to pick up this player again. I brought it home and set it up with the HDMI connection and I thought the picture was fantastic for the price, but the lack of DTS/5.1 output made me take it back immediately.
09-12-06, 03:59 PM
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Yeah I might have to get one now as well. I didn't see anything on the link about about upscaling only on HDMI, I assume that is still true?
09-12-06, 06:56 PM
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Ok, I picked this up tonight and it does look great with HDMI and the DTS works perfectly. My only nitpick is that when upscaling is activated, there is a noticable black bar at the bottom of the screen. It's not a big deal when watching 2.35:1 since it just blends into the other bars, but with 16x9 material it is somewhat distracting having a bar on the bottom and not the top. I've just switched it back to 480p instead of 720p/1080i for now and it still looks great.
09-13-06, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dullboy
I mentioned the black bar problem in an earlier post. It's not just a black bar, it's actually squashing the image.
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Originally Posted by squidget
I'm gearing up to upgrade my philips 642 (which I love) to the DVP5960. It has all the same features as the 642 (region free hack, PAL to NTSC, divx/xvid) plus it has it support for divx 6.0, upscales to 1080i and has HDMI output and USB 1.1 input.
No s-video output though.
If you need more then one - there is a 15 off 100 coupon at CC retailers for fathers day. Goes active 6/9
I'm getting two (1 for me and 1 for a friend) on Friday. I let you know how it goes.
No s-video output though.
If you need more then one - there is a 15 off 100 coupon at CC retailers for fathers day. Goes active 6/9
I'm getting two (1 for me and 1 for a friend) on Friday. I let you know how it goes.
Can anyone tell me if it really works with xvid? Because is not mentioned in philips website http://www.consumer.philips.com/cons...CSHQNHKFSESI5P
There is any difference between Philips DVP 5960/12 and DVP5960/05?
Thanks