According to Fangoria, shock-rocker turned filmmaker Rob Zombie (“House of 1000 Corpses”, “The Devil’s Rejects”) may be in talks to steer the next Michael Myers banquet.
If it’s true, the corn syrup order just tripled.
While the moneymen aren’t talking, everyone else is, and there’s some real steam arising from the whisper.
Had a yak to “Halloween 9” writer Jake Wade Wall a while back, about the film, and he did mention that a ‘big’ name was linked to the project. He hadn’t been told who it was, only that the guy considered himself both a ‘writer’ and a ‘director’, so he feared his script might be toyed with.
What Wade Wall says does seem to fit in with the rumour that Zombie has been approached to do the film. Zombie, after all, likes to wear all the hats on his movies.
If it is indeed Wade Wall’s script that’s being used for the film – and nobody knows for sure, because frankly, there’s been that many writers on the thing – it’ll chronicle ‘The Missing Years’ of Michael Myers’ life, centring mostly on his time at the Asylum.
But back to Zombie. It’s a radical move on The Weinstein Company’s behalf. Zombie’s not your everyday straight-up horror filmmaker. But, I guess they’ve tallied up the figures and realised there’s the possibility to roping in some different segments – the Zombie fans, the “Corpses” fans, and so on – by doing so. I would be interested to see what he does with the film. One thing’s for sure, it’s going to be bloody. Clot bloody.
(Just for the record, I see that the IMDB has some cast already listed for the film, including Lindy Booth, Billy Dee Williams (!), Rob Brown and Alexa Carter. Since I’ve heard nothing about any of those folks suiting up for a skirmish with Myers, don’t put too much stock into it. Likely BS).
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Suprmallet
06-02-06, 11:41 PM
That would be cool. At this point, Halloween needs a drastic makeover, and Zombie could do it.
Brent L
06-02-06, 11:58 PM
I've hated Zombie's first two flicks, but I'm for this oddly enough. In his work I see the makings of what could one day become a great horror director.
Maxflier
06-03-06, 12:53 AM
I hope it's better than Tarantino's Friday the 13th movie.
TheNightFlier
06-03-06, 05:50 AM
Billy Dee Williams and Rob Zombie? I'm there.
Mr. Cinema
06-03-06, 07:10 AM
After seeing Busta Rhymes fight Michael Myers, I'm for letting Rob Zombie do any damn thing he wants to this project.
Zodiac_Speaking
06-03-06, 10:59 AM
I would actually appreciate if Zombie would do the script himself, or atleast give it a shake up. From H1kC to Devils Rejects, they was a huge step forward in dialogue, character development, tone, pacing, ect. Just a huge step. While tackling a weak franchise might not be the best next option for him, given him free reigns to do anything could be a GREAT move, especially if its this prequel/lost years thing.
If its a remake, and Rob is directing, I'll feel vastly let down. I was hoping for Rob to tackle an original idea (but I guess El Superbeasto is orginal for his animate film).
GameGenie
06-03-06, 11:53 AM
i hope this is true, then this movie actulley might be good. The last entry in the series was terrible.
Rival11
06-03-06, 12:28 PM
If Rob takes the project I highly doubt anyone will be let down. We're talking Rob freakin' Zombie here folks, a guy who refuses to give in to the typical mainstream BS..........that is of course, depending on how much money he is offered :(
Terrell
06-03-06, 01:21 PM
If that is indeed true, Akkad reached depths even I didn't think he would sink to. Rob Zombie is the least talented person allowed to make films, other than maybe Boll. He has not one speck of talent, in any aspect of filmmaking. Rob Zombie completely redefines the word hack. I refuse to even refer to him as a filmmaker.
I tried watching Devil's Reject, and it was some of the worst crap I've ever seen. This guy's idea of great cinematography is showing closeups of rotting teeth. Rob, I recommend you sit down and watch Carpenter's Halloween and The Thing if you want to see what real horror filmmaking is. I shudder to think where this guy is going to take Halloween. Best thing for them to do is stop making Halloween films. They should have ended after Halloween II.
Rant over.
If Rob takes the project I highly doubt anyone will be let down.
Guess again!
Obey The D
06-03-06, 01:25 PM
If that is indeed true, Akkad reached depths even I didn't think he would sink to.
I guess you don't know that he died 6 months ago in a terrorist bombing.
Terrell
06-03-06, 01:31 PM
I guess you don't know that he died 6 months ago in a terrorist bombing.
No, I didn't know that. Or I don't remember hearing about it. Sorry to hear it.
mndtrp
06-04-06, 01:30 AM
According to Blabbermouth. (http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=53211)
"I don't know how this story all got started but I AM NOT MAKING 'HALLOWEEN 9'."
Peep
06-04-06, 04:02 AM
Rob Zombie is the least talented person allowed to make films, other than maybe Boll. He has not one speck of talent, in any aspect of filmmaking. Rob Zombie completely redefines the word hack. I refuse to even refer to him as a filmmaker.
I tried watching Devil's Reject, and it was some of the worst crap I've ever seen. This guy's idea of great cinematography is showing closeups of rotting teeth.
I'm surprised to hear you say that, while I wasn't a big fan of his first movie, I was totally blown away by "Devil's Rejects". I've seen it a couple of times since then and I think it still holds up. And I think the look and score of the movie are top-notch. I'm not sure if he would be a good fit for a "Halloween" movie, but I'm surprsed to hear anybody call him a hack.
Terrell
06-04-06, 02:20 PM
I saw bits of 1000 Corpses on cable and I tried watching Devil's Reject's. I saw nothing with any redeeming value whatsoever. He's obviously a rocker that somehow got a chance to make films, demented, sick films. But I see no talent in any aspect of filmmaking. All I've seen this guy do is throw sick, disgusting images up on film with a very weak story. Compare Halloween, The Thing, or even The Fog with Devil's Reject and you'll see what I mean.
I don't begrude anyone enjoying his work. I'm a big Lucas fan, and some people think he doesn't have a talented bone in his body. I just don't see any talent in this man, not filmmaking talent. It just reinforces the fact that Hollywood will let anyone make a film. That's my own personal opinion.
Personally, Halloween movies needed to be stop three or four movies ago. Enough is enough. Same goes for Halloween and Freddy films. But they probably won't because they're not all that expensive to make, and evidently enough people will buy the DVDs to make it a profitable endeavor.
Dr. DVD
06-04-06, 02:54 PM
If he says he's not making Halloween 9, I guess he's not. It's amazing how many rumors internet "scoop" sites try to start and then wind up being B.S. Next thing they'll be saying that Robert Rodriguez is going to direct a new adaptation of the "Popeye" cartoon and Quentin Tarantino is going to try and re-invigorate Hellraiser with a fresh start.
Trout
06-04-06, 03:19 PM
Wasn't there a rumor that Takashi Miike was going to direct a new Halloween film?
Damed
06-04-06, 05:58 PM
Zombie ISN'T making Halloween 9.
But he IS remaking the original Halloween. At least, according to Rob Zombie on his myspace blog.
I gotta say...wow. I'm not too keen on my favorite horror film (and one of my favorite all time films at that) being remade, but this is very interesting. I too saw a huge leap in skill between HO1kC and The Devil's Rejects and am pretty excited to see what he can do with Halloween. I'd rather see him do Part 9 than a remake, but it's not like a remake is going to further embarrass the franchise or anything...I don't think you can do worse than Resurrection.
Matthew Chmiel
06-04-06, 07:32 PM
Rob Zombie made a huge, definite leap from the terrible House of 1000 Corpses to the wonderful grindhouse shlock of The Devil's Rejects. As others, nothing is going to directly compare to Carpenter's original, but the film franchise is in a dire need of a reboot and Zombie might actually be the man up to the challenge.
And I don't get all the hate for Zombie. The Devil's Rejects might've not been a great horror film, but it was some of the most fun I had in theaters last year. Imagine 400 or so horror fans pumped up by being some of the first to see the film in it's final theatrical form in addition to Rob Zombie and his wife in attendence (with a question and answer following). It was a grand ole time.
onebyone
06-04-06, 07:49 PM
I couldn't have loved The Devil's Rejects more if I tried. I think that this should be a very good time. I am still kind of afraid to believe it though. It still seems way too good to be true to me.
Stoney
06-04-06, 08:38 PM
I liked it but found it a bit flawed the first time I watched it, but since it's been released on DVD, it's quickly become one of my favorites. Frailty is probably still my favorite horror flick from the last 5 or 6 years, but The Devil's Rejects ain't too far behind. I went back and watched House of 1000 Corpses a few weeks ago, and I can't believe Zombie directed both films. Say what you want about the schlock level of The Devil's Rejects, but the film exudes atmosphere and mood. And to make the full circle back to the original topic, I believe Carpenter's Halloween established a mood better than any film I've ever seen. Brilliant cinematography, editing, score, etc. The more I think about it, the more I think Zombie is the right choice.
Chad
06-04-06, 09:33 PM
Zombie ISN'T making Halloween 9.
But he IS remaking the original Halloween. At least, according to Rob Zombie on his myspace blog.
Sounds like he's making a movie called Halloween that'll be totally different from any film in the series:
"Okay here's the real deal for those of you who are confused. As I said yesterday - I am not making Halloween 9. That series is done, complete, over.
But what I am doing is starting totally from from scratch. This the new HALLOWEEN. Call it a remake, an update, a reimaging or whatever, but one thing that for sure is this is a whole new start... a new begining with no connection to the other series. That is exactly why the project appeals to me. I can take it and run with it.
I talked to John Carpenter about this the other day and he said, "Go for it, Rob. Make it your own". And that's exactly what I intend to do."
Hell, he might not even have Michael Myers in it.
GoldenJCJ
06-04-06, 10:01 PM
How about John Carpenter helming the next Halloween film?
He could kill two birds with one stone by revitalizing both the Halloween franchise and his career.
Terrell
06-04-06, 11:03 PM
"Okay here's the real deal for those of you who are confused. As I said yesterday - I am not making Halloween 9. That series is done, complete, over.
But what I am doing is starting totally from from scratch. This the new HALLOWEEN. Call it a remake, an update, a reimaging or whatever, but one thing that for sure is this is a whole new start... a new begining with no connection to the other series. That is exactly why the project appeals to me. I can take it and run with it.
I talked to John Carpenter about this the other day and he said, "Go for it, Rob. Make it your own". And that's exactly what I intend to do."
:lol: This is like me trying to paint a copy of Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel masterpiece. Whatever he comes up with, which will probably be shit, it won't come within a million miles of touching Carpenter's brilliant original. Some films should be left the fuck alone and not remade. Halloween is one of them.
DarthVong
06-04-06, 11:03 PM
Sounds like he's making a movie called Halloween that'll be totally different from any film in the series:
"Okay here's the real deal for those of you who are confused. As I said yesterday - I am not making Halloween 9. That series is done, complete, over.
But what I am doing is starting totally from from scratch. This the new HALLOWEEN. Call it a remake, an update, a reimaging or whatever, but one thing that for sure is this is a whole new start... a new begining with no connection to the other series. That is exactly why the project appeals to me. I can take it and run with it.
I talked to John Carpenter about this the other day and he said, "Go for it, Rob. Make it your own". And that's exactly what I intend to do."
Hell, he might not even have Michael Myers in it.
Wow, so now they've thrown Michael into the current trend machine...
Remake + Excessive Gore/Violence = $$$$$
Halloween is a classic and needs no reimagining.
Terrell
06-04-06, 11:04 PM
Halloween is a classic and needs no reimagining.
Amen!
Suprmallet
06-04-06, 11:27 PM
Halloween is a brilliant first 40 minutes, and then it's like they let the air out of the balloon. When we're hearing rumors about Meyers and we don't know what he's going to do, but we keep seeing flashes of him, it's suspenseful as hell. Once he starts killing people, well, it's pedestrian. Halloween may have made Carpenter's career, and it's definitely better than anything he did after In The Mouth of Madness, but he's had far, far better movies (for example, The Thing). Heck, I even enjoyed They Live! more than Halloween. There's nothing wrong with reimagining a film that was flawed to begin with.
GoldenJCJ
06-04-06, 11:42 PM
But what I am doing is starting totally from from scratch. This the new HALLOWEEN. Call it a remake, an update, a reimaging or whatever, but one thing that for sure is this is a whole new start... a new begining with no connection to the other series. That is exactly why the project appeals to me. I can take it and run with it.
But wouldn't this just be your typical slasher flick...only set on Halloween.
The original had no great originality to it and 27 years of knockoffs only make this idea sound worse.
Matthew Chmiel
06-05-06, 04:44 AM
:lol: This is like me trying to paint a copy of Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel masterpiece. Whatever he comes up with, which will probably be shit, it won't come within a million miles of touching Carpenter's brilliant original. Some films should be left the fuck alone and not remade. Halloween is one of them.
The problem with that logic is that it's fucking faulty. To an extent, all of the Halloween films (except Season of the Witch for the fact that it's not a direct sequel) have all contained pretty much the same story told in a different way. Michael Myers escapes from somewhere, decides to attack a member of the Strode family or someone who is in his old house, and all hell breaks loose. That's been all of the sequels' plotlines right there. Hell, even the sequel Carpenter had a direct hand in wasn't that special.
Seantn
06-05-06, 09:54 AM
If Rob takes the project I highly doubt anyone will be let down. We're talking Rob freakin' Zombie here folks, a guy who refuses to give in to the typical mainstream BS..........that is of course, depending on how much money he is offered
Oh, I guess you missed his first movie, House of 1000 Corpses. I'm a huge horror fan, and this movie was surprisingly mainstream and not shocking or interesting in the least.(compared to how shocking it was being touted to be).
Zodiac_Speaking
06-05-06, 09:55 AM
Shit. I'd rather have this over a "9", come on, series was on life support since the horrendous 6th entry. Granted, Halloween, along with Exorcist, shouldn't be touched, but I support Rob, and it will be the best thing next to the original.
Groucho
06-05-06, 10:05 AM
Awesome, a remake. Instead of the suspense and pacing of the first film, instead we'll get loud blaring music and random jump-cuts to grainy b&w footage. :thumbsup:
Zodiac_Speaking
06-05-06, 10:35 AM
Let's see it first before we create a negative opinion, we owe every filmmaker that prior to seeing his/her film. But its too popular to do that via the internet....
Mr. Cinema
06-05-06, 10:52 AM
What I love about the original is its ability to create a creepy atmosphere by simply using music, sound effects, and some different camera angles. There's very little blood used in the movie and no gore. Those items aren't necessary to scare the crap out of audiences, but today's filmmakers think that's the only way. Shock, shock, shock.
I don't have a problem if Zombie wants to make another sequel, but leave the original alone.
Terrell
06-05-06, 04:02 PM
The problem with that logic is that it's fucking faulty. To an extent, all of the Halloween films (except Season of the Witch for the fact that it's not a direct sequel) have all contained pretty much the same story told in a different way.
Except that I'm not talking about all the Halloween films. Honestly, I couldn't care less about Halloween III through IX. I think Halloween II is a worthy ending to Michael Myers, and thought it was a pretty good film that fit visually with the original. But the original is a horror classic, one of the truly great horror films. I don't think it needs to be remade, updated, or re-imagined, especially by Zombie. Zombie's one of those guys that you either like or hate from a filmmaking perspective. I don't think it's a secret now that I can't stand the guy as a filmmaker. But I wouldn't want anyone to try and remake Halloween. Because nobody, especially Zombie, will be able to touch Carpenter's film with a 10 foot pole. I can only imagine what Zombie's Halloween is going to be like. Myers turned into a sadist, with violence so extreme that even Clive Barker would cringe.
I have no problem if Zombie wants to do a take on Halloween ala Season of the Witch, with an entirely new concept. But don't call it Halloween, and don't screw with the original. It sounds like he's going to remake the original, with the same storyline, except the date, setting, and character changed.
Suprmallet
06-05-06, 04:28 PM
Hey, guess what? Even if Rob Zombie DOES remake the original...it won't matter! No one is going to forget the original. And Halloween has definite room for improvement. Besides, how do you know that Zombie will do to Meyers what he did to his original characters? The man is very intelligent, I'm sure he understand that Meyers isn't Captain Spaulding.
DRG
06-05-06, 04:53 PM
I'm going to make a prediction:
There will be a song on the soundtrack called "I'm Your Boogieman '07" (or whatever year this actually comes out).
Zombie plots new mayhem for "Halloween"
Monday June 5 1:10 AM ET
Rocker-turned-filmmaker Rob Zombie is resurrecting Michael Myers, one of the big screen's favorite horror villains.
Zombie will write and direct a new "Halloween" movie, serving up what is being called as a brand-new vision for the long-running horror series. He will also serve as a producer and a music supervisor on the film.
An October 2007 release is being planned. Disney's Miramax Films will co-finance the development with former Miramax chiefs Bob and Harvey Weinstein's Dimension Films.
ADVERTISEMENTThe movie will not be a sequel or a straight-ahead remake of the 1978 original -- which helped director John Carpenter cement his name in the horror business -- but a reimagining that will infuse new blood into the Myers story.
"The look and the feel is going to be completely different," Zombie said in an interview. "'Halloween' started off as a very terrifying concept, a terrifying movie. But over the years, Michael Myers has become a friendly Halloween mask. When it came to the point where you could buy a Michael Myers doll that was cute-looking and press its stomach and play the 'Halloween' theme, you knew the scare factor was gone.
"But I think the story and the situation is scary. All it needed was someone to come in and to take a totally different approach to make it scary again. To me, that's the challenge and that's the fun."
Needless to say, the movie will not pay heed to the numerous sequels. The last Halloween film, "Halloween: H20," came out in 1998.
"Everything that has come before does not figure into this one," Zombie said. "That series is done."
And while Zombie aims to keep the scares and the character more real, the mask will remain.
"That's an iconic image that can't go away," he said.
Zombie wrote and directed "House of 1000 Corpses" and last year's "The Devil's Rejects," which proved to be extremely profitable theatrically and on DVD. A lot of horror movies have been thrown his way, but he wanted to be choosy when it came to his third film.
Zombie is a fan of the original and said he sought Carpenter's blessing.
"He said, 'That's awesome, go for it,"' Zombie said. "He was very supportive, which I thought was very important. I feel like 'Halloween' is his baby, and I wanted to be very respectful."
Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
Suprmallet
06-05-06, 04:58 PM
Did that article actually say Halloween H20 was the last Halloween film??
Terrell
06-06-06, 12:04 AM
And Halloween has definite room for improvement.
Not as far as I'm concerned. It's simple, effective, and a classic. End of story. I can assure you one thing. Rob Zombie will never come close to improving anything Carpenter's done. Carpenter's worst film is better than either of Zombie's films.
It's funny to hear Zombie talk about what's scary, because he doesn't know what's frightnening. Neither of his first two efforts are scary in the least. They're merely disgustingly gory and demented. At least he got Carpenter's approval. But honestly, what's Carpenter going to say. "Leave my fucking film alone?"
onebyone
06-06-06, 12:23 AM
Did that article actually say Halloween H20 was the last Halloween film??
:banana:
I have been trying to block out part eight for years. Glad to see I am not alone.
Topic? I am very excited for the new version of Halloween. I will be there opening night for sure. I have trust in Zombie at this point.
riley_dude
06-06-06, 01:03 AM
Can't be any worse then the last 7 or 8 Halloween movies. After 2 they were all Crap (excpet for Season of the witch and H2o)
Zodiac_Speaking
06-06-06, 09:22 AM
Hell, even H20 wasn't that good, nor was four for that matter. Hey, if Carpenter gives his blessing, then let just wait and see. I mean RZ isn't rewriting the Bible here. We will always have the original in a beautiful DVD treatment, so its not like these remakes are erasing the original.
If we can survive past TCM and Dawn being remade hell, we can survive this. As many of you might've noticed, I'm happy with RZ as the director. I've seen the original Dawn more since the remake came out, and Myers hasn't been scarry since II.
raven56706
06-06-06, 09:40 AM
i actually liked H20....... but not so sure on rob zombie
Alien Redrum
06-06-06, 10:13 AM
Carpenter's worst film is better than either of Zombie's films.
I guess you've never seen Ghosts of Mars. :lol:
I'll be seeing this, if it comes to life, for sure. Zombie improved strides between Ho1C and Rejects, and I have no doubt he will get better.
I could give a rat's ass if he does a remake, a revisioning or a rehash. It doesn't take away from the original in the least.
DRG
06-06-06, 10:15 AM
I'm still not sold on Zombie as a capable visual director. Devil's Rejects worked very well, but the nature of the story called for a gritty minimalist approach. 1000 Corpses, on the other hand, showed Zombie trying to exude style and instead ending up with a garishly shot mess.
That said, I'm sort of hoping Zombie's overhaul has to do with the urgency of the scenes. I'd like to see Myers chasing a victim through the house, tackling them as they fight for their life. He's a killer, for chrissakes. Make it brutal, make it rough. Making it more realistic can bring the scares back, IMO. Yes, it's a Myers trademark of sorts that he moves slowly. But frankly that only works if he's either pulling a ninja move (sneaking up on the victim) or has them cornered. I love the Halloween series but when the victims are on the run it's always seemed silly to me that he could always eventually catch up by just strolling along.
Of course, that also means no ridiculous bloodbaths or over-the-top gore sequences. That doesn't mean shy away from blood, just don't have gore for gore's sake. At this point excessive gore usually ends up looking campy and cartoonish.
And keep his methods simple. He doesn't need to be pulling out some sort of crazy utensil or power tool with every new victim. There's plenty he can do with his knife and his bare hands. Using something else is fine if it's an improvisational thing... like a certain weapon happens to be nearby (for a good reason). If he's in the garage and his knife gets knocked out his hand, it's okay if he grabs a tire iron and beats someone to death with it. Just don't have him get overly creative for no reason.
madara
06-06-06, 11:29 AM
What I love about the original is its ability to create a creepy atmosphere by simply using music, sound effects, and some different camera angles. There's very little blood used in the movie and no gore. Those items aren't necessary to scare the crap out of audiences, but today's filmmakers think that's the only way. Shock, shock, shock.
I don't have a problem if Zombie wants to make another sequel, but leave the original alone.
On the damn money! Exactly! Sorry I just had quote that for freak'n truth that it is. No way they going touch the original, especially with House of 1000 corpses like themes.
maingon
06-06-06, 11:36 AM
I didnt like his first movie but Devils Rejects was a huge step forward and pretty good
gerrythedon
06-26-06, 03:44 AM
Rob interview:
JUNE 16, 2006
We begin our coverage of the next HALLOWEEN film with a short interview with writer/director Rob Zombie. Thanks to all the fans that submitted a question to Rob... we received over 2000!
QUESTION: Why do you feel that you are the person to take on this project? (from Anna in Florida)
RZ: Because I have a vision that I believe can work. If I didn't I would go near it.
QUESTION: Can you please clarify what you mean when you say you are "not making a sequel" and that your Halloween will be a "re-imagining" of the series? Isn't that just another word for "remake"? (from Cole in Chicago)
RZ: Well, sort of. I am basically making a prequel and a semi-remake of the first film all in one. So really in theory there will be more original content than remake content. That's why I don't like the word "remake."
QUESTION: What is the title of the next movie, and are you finished with the script yet? What can you reveal about the storyline of the new movie? (from Eric in Canada)
RZ: HALLOWEEN, no and not much.
QUESTION: For the next film, are you planning to maybe go into what Michael's childhood was like and how and why he became the serial killer he is? Is it at least going to take place in 1978? (from Sylvain)
RZ: Yes, I think this aspect of the story is very important in order to bring new life to the character of Michael Myers. The film begins in 1978.
QUESTION: Halloween is the most influential horror movie ever made and I for one am not happy about a remake. All of the remakes to hit theaters - from Texas Chainsaw to The Omen - were total crap. Why touch a classic like Halloween? Why would you even risk this? (from Mike in New York)
RZ: Like I said in Question 1, I wouldn't even go near this project if I didn't feel like a had a fresh, worthwhile approach to the material. Besides, I'm not touching one single frame of Carpenter's classic. That film will remain as it always has.
QUESTION: The masks in the past 4 Halloween films were all different, and some of them weren't scary. Are you going to re-design the mask, or will you stick to the Captain Kirk version that was used in the original film? (from Todd)
RZ: I want to keep the mask classic.
QUESTION: Are you you planning on using any previous characters from the first 8 films (like Laurie Strode and Dr. Loomis) or are you planning something entirely new with no old characters? (from Jamie in Scotland)
RZ: Both, but I won't tell you which just yet.
QUESTION: Since you are a musician, will you be doing the entire music score for the film, or will you be collaborating with anyone else? And will you integrate any of John Carpenter's classic themes into the score? (from Craig)
RZ: I do not plan on doing the score for this film myself other than in a supervisor position. I have already done some work with the composer and we both feel that Carpenter's themes are classic and will play an important role.
QUESTION: Your films are known for their gore, but the Halloween films haven't been very gory, they have been more suspensful. Do you plan to focus on gore or suspense in your version of Halloween? (from Paula)
RZ: I plan to focus on character, mood and terror.
QUESTION: How does John Carpenter feel about your involvement in the new Halloween? (from Zack in Georgia)
RZ: I talked to John about it and he was vey supportive. He basically said, "That's great Rob, go for it and make it your own." What more do I need?
HALLOWEENMOVIES.com
boredsilly
06-26-06, 09:21 AM
"but a reimagining that will infuse new blood into the Myers story." = Mike Myers is going to sprint in this new movie.
I think Halloween is perfect as it is and is very similar to Jaws in the tension it builds, but I will be first in line to see this movie. I'm not looking forward to it so much as I'm curious to see how they can make this different with it still being Halloween.
Terrell
06-26-06, 01:30 PM
Like I said in Question 1, I wouldn't even go near this project if I didn't feel like a had a fresh, worthwhile approach to the material. Besides, I'm not touching one single frame of Carpenter's classic. That film will remain as it always has.
That's not the point stupid.
DeputyDave
06-26-06, 01:47 PM
That's not the point stupid.I think that is the point. The original movie will not be changed. It's still there for you to enjoy. If many super crap sequels didn't kill your enjoyment of the original than this one won't either. As I said in another thread, there are no sacred cows in film. Remake 'em all, I say. Either I will see them and enjoy them or I won't. If you take my top 5 films of all time, I'd say I'd love to see what someone new could do with them.
That said: I loved Rob's last movie (and got a real kick out of 1000 Corpses) and can't wait to see what he has in mind for this classic.
Clockwork
07-14-06, 07:42 AM
Halloween is a brilliant first 40 minutes, and then it's like they let the air out of the balloon. When we're hearing rumors about Meyers and we don't know what he's going to do, but we keep seeing flashes of him, it's suspenseful as hell. Once he starts killing people, well, it's pedestrian. Halloween may have made Carpenter's career, and it's definitely better than anything he did after In The Mouth of Madness, but he's had far, far better movies (for example, The Thing). Heck, I even enjoyed They Live! more than Halloween. There's nothing wrong with reimagining a film that was flawed to begin with.
Did you miss the first 5 minutes of the film? Yes, there was a killing. Did you just expect him to walk around? You are on a Horror forum, in a Halloween related thread, and you claim to like "They Live" better than the original Halloween?? There is nothing "Pedestrian" about Halloween.
As for your "Flawed" film theory, wonder how you would you feel if they reimagined "They Live With George Clooney & Will Smith & his Men in Black glasses?
Dan1boy
07-14-06, 04:03 PM
What a fantastic interview. Thanks gerrythedon.
Amazing choice for director. Can't. Farckin'. Wait.
Zodiac_Speaking
07-14-06, 05:25 PM
I just got back from a Zombie concert and before he hit the stage, the lights dimed and the theme from Halloween played. It defiantely got me pumped up.
Well, personally I'm all over the Halloween 25 Years disc Anchor Bay is releasing, but the series is the weakest of the major three (Freddy, Jason, Myers), in my opinion, so some nerw juice of Zombie's caliber might be what the doctor ordered. again Devil's was a thousand times better than H1kC.
gerrythedon
07-15-06, 01:47 AM
What a fantastic interview. Thanks gerrythedon.
Amazing choice for director. Can't. Farckin'. Wait.
U're welcome.
Yeah, I also think this is an amazing choice. Can't Fuckin' Wait! :)
gerrythedon
08-02-06, 11:03 PM
Date Announced...
... officially hits theaters October 19, 2007.
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Rogue588
08-03-06, 12:54 AM
It could be worse...he could put Mikey in OUTER SPACE...
gerrythedon
08-08-06, 10:40 PM
Has Zombie Found His New Laurie Strode?
t was reported over at Dark Horizons that Amber Tamblyn (The Grudge 2) is rumoured to be up for Laurie Strode in the remake of Halloween, which is being produced, written and directed by shock-rocker Rob Zombie. This has yet to be confirmed, especially since Zombie hasn't even finished with the script yet. Expect this rumor to be debunked by this afternoon. Although, the progress has to be quick on this film as it's aiming for an October 19, 2007 release... if Lionsgate can pull it off with Saw (twice), why can't the Weinstein's do it with Halloween? Read on for a pic of Amber. Zombie's vision of this film is an entirely new take on the legend and will satisfy fans of the classic "Halloween" legacy while beginning a new chapter in the Michael Myers saga. "This is a bit of a prequel and a remake, combined," says Zombie...
BLOODY-DISGUSTING.com
gerrythedon
08-08-06, 10:41 PM
Bates to Score new HALLOWEEN movie
Tyler Bates – the composer of several recent horror scores including SLITHER, SEE NO EVIL and THE DEVIL’S REJECTS – has two projects with Rob Zombie, the director of THE DEVIL’S REJECTS, coming up. First, Bates is doing the score for THE HAUNTED WORLD OF EL SUPERBEASTO, an animated feature based on the comic created by Rob Zombie, who is producing the picture. Mr. Lawrence is the name of the writer and director – film is supposed to come out later this year. After that, Bates has told Film Music Radio that he is going to begin work on Rob Zombie’s new HALLOWEEN film, which is the ninth film in the series launched by John Carpenter in 1978. The new film is set for an October 2007 release.
In a press release from Dimension Films, it was stated that “Zombie's vision of this film is an entirely new take on the legend and will satisfy fans of the classic Halloween legacy while beginning a new chapter in the Michael Myers saga. This new movie will not only appeal to horror fans, but to a wider movie-going audience as well. It will not be a copycat of any prior films in the Halloween franchise.”
Bates is currently working on the score for Zack Snyder’s 300, an action adventure based on Frank Miller’s graphic novel. The film is scheduled to be released next year and stars Gerard Butler as the Spartan King Leonidas and Lena Headey as Queen Gorgo. Zack Snyder previously worked with Tyler Bates on DAWN OF THE DEAD.
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gerrythedon
08-19-06, 10:59 PM
Sheri Moon Confirms Role in Zombie's 'Halloween'
Although it comes as no surprise, Sheri Moon will have a role in Rob Zombie's Halloween, which is aiming at a October 19th release. Sheri confirms the rumor during an interview with SheriMoonZombie.net where she tells them, "All I can tell you is I am not playing Laurie Strode!" Sheri starred at Baby in Rob's House of 1000 Corpses and its sequel The Devil's Rejects for Lionsgate. Zombie's vision of this film is an entirely new take on the legend and will satisfy fans of the classic "Halloween" legacy while beginning a new chapter in the Michael Myers saga. "This is a bit of a prequel and a remake, combined," says Zombie.
BLOODY-DISGUSTING.com
gerrythedon
10-02-06, 03:08 AM
I went to the GODSMACK/ROB ZOMBIE concert on Saturday. Rob's intro was the Halloween theme... Also during Thunder Kiss '65, there was a long guitar solo that included the Halloween theme [guitar version, duh!] and Rob came out during it dressed as Michael Myers. That was :cool:
Darth Maher
10-04-06, 05:09 PM
Aw man. I saw the same line-up in Chicago a few weeks ago. Although they did play the Tyler Bates' version of the Halloween Theme for the intro, there was no cool Halloween guitar solo or Rob in a mask. :grunt:
TomOpus
11-11-06, 10:08 AM
This is from Bloody-Disgusting...
Dimension Films has informed us that Rob Zombie's Halloween will now hit theaters August 31, 2007, a month and a half earlier than the original October 19 date! We've also learned that the script is completed and scouting is underway, more details as soon as they come in. Rob Zombie will also produce off of his own screenplay, which is sure to be one hell of a fun ride. Sheri Moon Zombie is the only confirmed cast member. Zombie's vision of this film is an entirely new take on the legend and will satisfy fans of the classic "Halloween" legacy while beginning a new chapter in the Michael Myers saga. "This is a bit of a prequel and a remake, combined," says Zombie.
DarthVong
11-25-06, 01:22 AM
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/7683
Alleged Cast and Character synopsis. Spoiler Warning.
Decapitate Prey
12-02-06, 03:53 PM
I think that is the point. The original movie will not be changed. It's still there for you to enjoy. If many super crap sequels didn't kill your enjoyment of the original than this one won't either. As I said in another thread, there are no sacred cows in film. Remake 'em all, I say. Either I will see them and enjoy them or I won't. If you take my top 5 films of all time, I'd say I'd love to see what someone new could do with them.
That said: I loved Rob's last movie (and got a real kick out of 1000 Corpses) and can't wait to see what he has in mind for this classic.
That's pretty sad, if you truly believe it. Remakes are nothing but money grabs that people like you support like so many easily led lemmings. Your support basically ruins the horror genre. Stop supporting crap.
Why would you love to see what somebody new would do to your 5 favorite films? It's this kind of thinking that just exasperates me. They're your favorites for a reason, right? So you have no problem with, and in fact welcome, the possibility of new hacks denigrating them? To me, this type of thinking supports the copy cat syndrome we've had going on in all of the arts world. Nothing original is attempted, only carbon copied, and it sucks.
gerrythedon
12-20-06, 11:42 PM
Daeg Faerch cast as Michael Myers?
Nice spot from the guys at Arrow in the Head who noticed that the IMDB listing for the “Halloween” remake has a youngster credited as young Michael Myers – at age 10.
Slotted in for the role of the terrifying tyke is Daeg Faerch, a pre-teen horror vet whose credits include “Freakshow” and “Shut In”.
Now whilst I’m willing to believe this titbit – because, well, your fuckin’ dog can update IMDB if he wanted too – about as much as Katie Holmes’ pre-Cruise virginity claims, I did check in with a couple of people who indirectly confirmed that the youngster is without a doubt on the pic. It seems as if the role is quite small though, and the actor to play the older Myers will have the guts of the part.
picture:
http://www.moviehole.net/news/20061219_daeg_faerch_cast_as_michael_my.html
Another rumour floating around the info superhighway is that popstress Stacy 'Fergie' Ferguson has been asked to play a part in the movie.
MOVIEHOLE.net
DarthVong
12-22-06, 10:40 PM
On Rob Zombie's MySpace page he has announced that Dr. Sam Loomis will be played by Malcolm McDowell.
Cameron
12-23-06, 05:18 AM
On Rob Zombie's MySpace page he has announced that Dr. Sam Loomis will be played by Malcolm McDowell.
I love it.
oddly enough Somewhere online I had seen a petition to have Christopher Lee play the part. This made me mad in the fact that its ridiculous to think that any credible film maker would offeer a role on the merit of an online petion. Furthermore, while I understand he was top choice for the original, that ship sailed long ago, and he isn't the same actor as he was then.
basically what I am saying is people on the internet are dumbasses sometimes.
Zodiac_Speaking
12-23-06, 02:48 PM
I love the casting thus far. Fangoria.com stated Danielle Harris is confirmed for a role too.
I hope the Fergie rumor is not true. I can't stand her.
DarthVong
12-24-06, 05:14 PM
From Rob's Halloween My Space Page
Here's more exciting news for the holiday break. Adult Michael Myers will be played by TYLER MANE.
I'm sure you all remember Tyler as Rufus from The Devil's Rejects, Sabretooth in the X-Men and the unstoppable Ajax in Troy.
Tyler is mean, lean and ready to bring you the most psychotic Michael Myers yet.
I don't care for this bit of casting...
gerrythedon
12-26-06, 10:53 PM
Malcolm McDowell is the new Dr.Loomis
I’m in two minds about this one…. I mean Malcolm McDowell is great, don’t get me wrong, but I just think he’s an off-kilter choice for the new “Halloween” film.
Maybe it’s the fact that I’m associating McDowell with Terence from “Entourage” these days – a role I initially thought was miscast; if only because McDowell is too known a face to play someone other than himself – or maybe it’s the fact that I think a fresher face should’ve been playing the ‘young’ Loomis (McDowell is 63), since the late Donald Pleasance really made the role his own, and to see an actor just as known in the part is going to feel slightly wrong… kinda like seeing Todd Waring in “Splash, Too!”. (Bad example, I know).
Still, I’m intrigued. Obviously director Rob Zombie saw something in McDowell that he didn’t see in say, William Forsythe or Danny Huston… or one of the other younger men who might’ve been good for Michael’s opponent.
“I am thrilled to have Malcolm on board”, Zombie said on his MySpace page. “He is ready to kick ass and make a new horror classic”.
Zombie hasn’t shied away from expressing his love for the veteran actor over the years. In an interview a couple of years back for “The Devil’s Rejects”, he said, “Malcolm McDowell in “A Clockwork Orange” has no redeeming characteristic to him whatsoever, but he’s so charismatic that you love him”.
MOVIEHOLE.net
gerrythedon
12-26-06, 10:57 PM
Jamie returns for new Halloween
As far as I can tell, there isn’t going to be much of a link between the original John Carpenter “Halloween” [series] and Rob Zombie’s reimaginging/remake/prequel/do-over… well, there didn’t seem to be initially, anyway. Now until this latest bit of news surfaced.
Seems – probably to please the purists; but then again, if that was the plan, Jamie Lee Curtis or P.J Soles would be cameo-ing, no? – director Rob Zombie has asked series’ star Danielle Harris (Jamie Lloyd in “Halloween 4” and “Halloween 5”) to return for the new film, according to Fangoria.
Obviously, Harris (a little girl back then) would be playing a different character – unless part of the storyline involves Lloyd using a time machine to go back in time in an effort to save her mother, Laurie, from being sliced and diced by her maniacal brother – with some predicting she may be up for the lead role of Laurie Strode herself, the role made famous by Jamie Lee Curtis.
No doubt Zombie will officially announce Harris’s attachment at his MySpace page in the coming weeks
this is a fan poster. its listed on the Halloween myspace
LorenzoL
01-01-07, 03:01 PM
Why are they releasing this movie on August 31st??? Wouldn't one think that a date closer to Halloween be more appropriate?
gerrythedon
01-05-07, 11:31 PM
Sherry Moon playing Deborah Meyers in Halloween Remake
Casting news for Rob Zombie's Halloween is coming fast and furious. Just announced via his MySpace is that a couple alumni of The Devil's Rejects has joined the cast. SHERI MOON ZOMBIE will portray Michael Myers mother DEBORAH MYERS, a longtime employee of THE RABBIT IN RED LOUNGE.
WILLIAM FORSYTHE will be playing RONNIE WHITE, Deborah's abusive boyfriend.
MOVIESONLINE.ca
gerrythedon
01-05-07, 11:33 PM
Laurie Strode's Parents Cast in Rob Zombie's 'Halloween'
Rob Zombie is making sure his Halloween remake doesn't leave any of your minds as he continues to take over our main page with more casting news. Today the rock shocker turned director revealed who will play Mason and Cynthia Strode, Laurie Strode's parents in the new film, which hits theaters everywhere on August 31st. Read on for the latest casting news and watch this spot for more updates as they come in. Halloween begins shooting this month.
Playing Mason Strode, Laurie's father, is Pat Skipper (Predator 2, Hellraiser: Bloodline).
Playing Cynthia Strode, Laurie's mother, is Dee Wallace-Stone (The Howling, Cujo, E.T.
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gerrythedon
01-06-07, 10:57 PM
A Rob Zombie Favorite Cast in 'Halloween' Remake!
Yup, you guessed it, we've got even more casting news for Rob Zombie's Halloween (more here), but thankfully Rob's making his final "big" announcement early next week. Soon we'll be finished talking about the who's who and talking about what's going on next. But here's the score for you uber-fans out there before we break some big news: Tyler Mane, Malcolm McDowell, Daeg Faerch, Heather Bowen, Pat Skipper, Dee Wallace Stone, Sheri Moon Zombie and William Forsythe. Who's next? Read on and see!
Here's the skinny folks, Bloody-Disgusting has learned via a few various scoopers that Ken Foree (Dawn of the Dead, The Devil's Rejects) will have a role in Rob Zombie's Halloween remake. He will play Big Joe Grizzley, a truck driver who encounters Michael on his travels.
The casting is incredible thus far and I have to say I am extremely impressed, if the script is as good as they say I'm thinking Dimension Films might have another winner on their hands.
COMINGSOON.net
gerrythedon
01-08-07, 01:44 AM
Ken Foree, Danny Trejo and more join Halloween
The filmmakers just announced on their official MySpace site that Ken Foree, Danny Trejo, Hanna R. Hall and Lew Temple joined the cast of Rob Zombie's "Halloween". Hanna will play Judith Myers. Ken will portray Big Joe Grizzley, a truck driver who encounters Michael on his travels and Danny is Ismael Cruz, a sympathetic worker at Smith's Grove Sanitarium. Lew will play Nole Kluggs, a co-worker of Ismael at Smith's Grove.
The remaining major roles of Laurie, Annie, Lynda, Judith, Sheriff Brackett, Kendall Jacks, Grant Clark, Principle Erics, Councilman Edwards, Lindsey Wallace, Tommy Doyle, Deputy Charles, Dr. Koplenson, Barbara Florentine and Morgan Walker will be announced soon, but the filmmakers said that none of these remaining roles are played by anyone that was in "The Devil's Rejects".
As for now the castlist looks like this:
Dr. Loomis - Malcolm McDowell
Young Michael Myers - Daeg Faerch
Adult Michael Myers - Tyler Mane
Deborah Myers - Sheri Moon
Judith Myers - Hanna R. Hall
Mason Strode - Pat Skipper
Cynthia Strode - Dee Wallace Stone
Ronnie White - William Forsythe
Big Joe - Ken Foree
Nole Kluggs - Lew Temple
Ismael Cruz - Danny Trejo
MOVIESONLINE.ca
gerrythedon
01-10-07, 11:50 PM
Danielle Harris out Trick or Treating again
So anyway, Danielle Harris has been confirmed for the new “Halloween” movie.
And, well, she ain’t playing Laurie Strode – the character made famous by Jamie Lee Legs in the previous films - like we all predicted. But, Annie Brackett.
As mentioned several times on The ‘Hole already, Harris is already known to “Halloween” fans as the star of “Halloween 4” and “Halloween 5” – playing Jamie Lloyd, Laurie Strode’s daughter. So, in other words, her attachment to the remake is a little odd. But this is Rob Zombie, and he eats a bowl of odd for breakfast every morning.
In the original, Annie Brackett was a friend of Laurie’s who is babysitting across the street. After arranging to pick up her boyfriend, Annie heads back to the house and gets in her car, only to find every window fogged. Myers (who has followed her and Laurie) pops up from the backseat and strangles Annie.
This cast is so unorthodox – you’d think the Weinstein’s would be gunning for the biggest names they can get from this thing, but they seem to have caved into Zombie’s every wish and demand. He has a penchant for forgotten stars of horror (well, forgotten stars)… and they’re all here: Dee Wallace Stone, William Forsythe, Bill Moseley, Pat Skipper and Ken Foree.
We’re still awaiting word on who’ll be playing Laurie Strode.
MOVIEHOLE.net
LivingINClip
01-12-07, 09:30 AM
Not bad casting so far, but I hate the idea of them making some huge backstory for Michael. That is the one place the original really took off, the idea that he was just some mental who escaped and wanted to kill young girls..
cerial442
01-12-07, 11:40 AM
If this is true, this is going to turn out terrible.
Yet another movie were they feel the need to give the killer a fucked-up childhood to help explain their actions. I like my killers to be straight up evil. Think about it for a minute, whats more frightening:
A) A ten year old who appears to be leading the normal life of any other boy his age who one day decides to butcher his sister.
B) A severely abused boy who jacks off to dead animals and get this...goes crazy WOW!!!!, that one really came out of left field. I was always under the assumption that most kids who jack it to dead animals grow up to be completely normal people.
Also, Michael talking.....WTF!?
Fincher Fan
01-12-07, 07:59 PM
Don't forget the different coloured masks! Does he wear a bum-bag or something around? At least we have an idea of some of his dialogue: "Wait! Stop! I have change to my angry face. Hey, come back!"
Sabrett
01-13-07, 01:21 AM
I'm sorry, but I can't stand Rob Zombie. I just know he's going to butcher this movie....but I'm curious and will probably still see it.
Josh-da-man
01-13-07, 11:37 PM
Methinks that Rob Zombie might be in over his head with this project.
There still isn't an actress announced to play Laurie Strode.
Isn't this supposed to open in August? Eight months away, and they still don't have their lead?
gerrythedon
01-15-07, 06:09 PM
Rob Zombie Defends Halloween Remake
Halloween has gone through the ringer in the last few days as a bunch of blogs run news that the new film is not true to the original. I think that is a blogs job. I think people should speak their minds, put filmmakers on the spot and more importantly help mold filmmaking. It does work. That said I got mad kudo's for filmmakers that dont just sit back and have their films, in this case a film that isnt even made yet, lambasted. Here is Rob zombie's response to earlier criticism of his film by AICN's:
"I notice that so many people get crazy when someone you don't even know posts an opinion about what they think HALLOWEEN will or won't be. This is crazy. Do you really go through life influenced by the thoughts of others that easily?
Anyway, things change so much in a movie, from moment to moment, from second to second that all I can say is : see it for yourself and figure out if you like it or not. Really who gives a fuck what someone else thinks? Everybody likes different shit for differenet reasons. But deciding that you hate or love something that doesn't even exsist yet? Well, that a little ridiculous."
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Obey The D
01-15-07, 06:59 PM
Rob Zombie Defends Halloween Remake
Here is Rob zombie's response to earlier criticism of his film by AICN's:
"I notice that so many people get crazy when someone you don't even know posts an opinion about what they think HALLOWEEN will or won't be. This is crazy. Do you really go through life influenced by the thoughts of others that easily?
Anyway, things change so much in a movie, from moment to moment, from second to second that all I can say is : see it for yourself and figure out if you like it or not. Really who gives a fuck what someone else thinks? Everybody likes different shit for differenet reasons. But deciding that you hate or love something that doesn't even exsist yet? Well, that a little ridiculous."
I guess Rob was wearing his "angry mask" when he said this. ;)
LivingINClip
01-18-07, 11:39 PM
Sounds like a big pile of poo.
gerrythedon
01-21-07, 01:38 AM
Brad Dourif Joins Cast of 'Halloween' Remake
Shock rocker-turned-director Rob Zombie revealed on his official MySpace blog this afternoon that Brad Dourif will be joining the cast of Dimension Films' remake of Halloween. He will be playing Sheriff Brackett in the film, which begins lensing later this month contrary to the rumors. Dourif is best known as the voice of Chucky in the 'Child's Play' films
BLOODYDISGUSTING.com
gerrythedon
01-27-07, 11:46 PM
Klebe and Kier join Halloween
The filmmakers posted more castmembers on their official MySpace site for Rob Zombie's "Halloween". The cast joining are Kristina Klebe who will portray Lynda van der Klok, who was played by P.J. Soles in John Carpenter's Original, and Udo Kier who will portray Morgan Walker, the head of Smith's Grove Sanitarium
MOVIESONLINE.ca
gerrythedon
01-29-07, 01:08 AM
Laurie Strode Cast in Zombie's Halloween
Rob Zombie has cast actress/singer Scout Taylor-Compton (An American Crime, Sleepover) as Laurie Strode in his new take on Halloween at Dimension Films. Strode was originally played by Jamie Lee Curtis in the "Halloween" films.
Also starring in the August 31 release are Malcolm McDowell, Daeg Faerch, Tyler Mane, Sheri Moon Zombie, Pat Skipper, Dee Wallace Stone, William Forsythe, Ken Foree, Lew Temple, Danny Trejo, Hanna Hall, Danielle Harris, Adrienne Barbeau, Clint Howard, Courtney Gains, Daryl Sabara, Heather Bowen, Brad Dourif, Udo Kier and Kristina Klebe.
Halloween is currently shooting in Los Angeles.
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Rockmjd23
01-29-07, 01:17 AM
I remember her. She was the girl who was missing a few years when she ran away from home. She might be just unstable enough to be perfect for the role. ;)
gerrythedon
01-29-07, 02:08 AM
I remember her. She was the girl who was missing a few years when she ran away from home. She might be just unstable enough to be perfect for the role. ;)
Oh shit really?... I remember that [DVDtalk] thead
LivingINClip
01-29-07, 07:40 PM
Saw where Danielle Harris on Dr. Phil today, she made a few mentions of a "big movie" she is doin' right now, but never came right out and said Halloween.
Seantn
02-04-07, 12:27 AM
I remember her. She was the girl who was missing a few years when she ran away from home.
She was missing for 2 weeks, and she was actually just staying with a friend of hers after a family argument.
Brian Jones
02-05-07, 02:11 AM
Saw where Danielle Harris on Dr. Phil today, she made a few mentions of a "big movie" she is doin' right now, but never came right out and said Halloween.
Phil mentioned Halloween and another movie title at the end of the program when he was thanking her for being a guest.
Rockmjd23
02-05-07, 03:41 PM
She was missing for 2 weeks, and she was actually just staying with a friend of hers after a family argument.
Yeah, I meant to say she was missing a few years ago.
gerrythedon
02-12-07, 01:20 AM
We received word today that Ezra Buzzington (The Hills Have Eyes) has joined the cast of Rob Zombie's Halloween remake...
BLOODYDISGUSTING.com
stinkeye
02-27-07, 11:03 AM
First shot of the shape is here (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/8284)
Fincher Fan
02-27-07, 11:51 AM
:thumbsup: Looks good!
Rogue588
02-27-07, 03:45 PM
Who's the girl next to him?
gerrythedon
02-28-07, 12:45 AM
Who's the girl next to him?
:lol: ... that's young Michael Myers [the kid actor playing him]
Rockmjd23
02-28-07, 12:46 AM
Now I know why Michael went insane. His parents wouldn't give him a haircut.
Myers original mask was far more frightening. But this is Zombie, so this has virtually no chance of being worth a damn.
I don't care for this bit of casting...
Neither do I. So they got a giant to play Myers. Part of what made Myers frightening is that he was just an ordinary man. That made him more real. Of course this is Zombie's take, so it's obvious what to expect.
McDowell is good casting though. About the best that can be done considering nobody could ever live up to Pleasance.
Suprmallet
03-14-07, 02:07 AM
Part of what made Myers frightening is that he was just an ordinary man. That made him more real.
The original Myers is meant to be an ordinary man? You certainly could have fooled me.
What ordinary man gets up after wounds that would kill anyone else multiple times?
Zodiac_Speaking
03-14-07, 11:06 AM
I heard he is now not using the original music. Ugh. If you have the Shape, you must have the music.
Excitement level is down but will be there for opening day.
Artman
03-14-07, 11:21 AM
The music news was corrected a few days ago - original theme is back in.
Brent L
03-14-07, 11:30 AM
So was it fake news that the original theme was being replaced, or was it actually replaced only to be brought back after complaints?
What sort of moron would actually even think up the idea, much less consider, to replace the original theme in a Halloween movie?
Rogue588
03-14-07, 12:34 PM
What sort of moron would actually even think up the idea, much less consider, to replace the original theme in a Halloween movie?http://fuseblog.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/rob_zombie1_072005.jpg
Listening to him during an interview on MTV (that I think I found via Ain't It Cool) made me dread this flick even more.
He seems to think that the fact he's giving the origin of every single aspect of Halloween (the mask, the jumpsuit, etc) justifies a remake and throwing a bunch of genre actors will make people say "Well, this is a steaming pile of shit, but it's cool because he watched the same horror flicks growing up that I did..."
Terrell
03-15-07, 12:17 AM
The original Myers is meant to be an ordinary man? You certainly could have fooled me.
Ordinary looking man. Does that suit you better. Now we've got this talentless fool turning him into a frickin' giant as if that's supposed to make him some unstoppable badass. It takes away from some of the realness Carpenter brought to the character up until the end when he walked away from 6 bullets. Unlike the Vorhees character, Myers could be hurt. That's my thinking anyway. Feel free to disagree.
Maybe I'm the wrong person to comment on this film considering I despise Zombie as a filmmaker. I also hate the idea of a remake of one of the best horror films ever. So I'd probably shit on anything where this remake is concerned.
I'm taking bets that he'll just turn this into another wretched grindhouse flick ala Devil's Rejects and 1000 Corpses.
filmerp
03-15-07, 05:35 AM
I worked on a student film with that kid. I remember thinking the mother was a bit of an overbearing "stage mom" and felt kinda bad for him, but it looks like it all paid off. Here's to hoping Daeg's not a cokehead by 15.
:lol: ... that's young Michael Myers [the kid actor playing him]
Josh-da-man
03-15-07, 02:50 PM
It's kind of amusing seeing all of the bile directed at this film when one considers how many of the sequels to the original were steaming piles of shit. (I'm looking at you, Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers, Halloween [666]: The Curse of Michael Myers, and Halloween: Resurrection. And Halloween II and Halloween H20 were nothing to get excited about, either.)
Chad
03-25-07, 12:30 AM
He's already done shooting principle photography and will be begin to edit on Monday ---> http://blog.myspace.com/robzombie (Wow, is it possible for those MySpace people to have their noses any further up his ass? :lol: )
Apparently no one on that set heard about a certain other Carpenter remake that was rushed into production and its outcome. It truly is amazing how much respect I've lost for both Carpenter and Zombie over this past year. :eek:
BTW, on a more enthusiastic note: Don Coscarelli - Against Phantasm Remakes (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/8467)
Good for Don. Unlike Carpenter he seems to have a little integrity and isn't all about the money.
Anyway, I was recently reading a Fangoria issue from last year with a Rob Zombie interview stating how he wanted to differentiate his film from the original and would never cast any of the actors from the previous films. Hmmm. :hscratch:
Well, I'll just do what I do with every remake: avoid ever seeing it, deny its existence and pray to god its the worst box-office flop in remake history. They really do need to let this series die with some dignity. I was hoping the unfortunate death of Moustapha Akkad would bring about the end of the series...unfortunately his son is carrying on the tradition of running the series into the ground. :(
Joe Molotov
03-25-07, 12:47 AM
Good for Don. Unlike Carpenter he seems to have a little integrity and isn't all about the money.
At least Carpenter has the sense to just cash his check and wash his hands of the remakes though, unlike Wes Craven.
gerrythedon
07-02-07, 01:45 AM
'Halloween' Gets Insanely Gory, New Ending!
Some crazy new Intel came into B-D this morning as we've been informed that Rob Zombie has been hard at work filming new material for his remake of Halloween, which is slated for release on August 31. Today ended seven straight days of grueling filming around the Los Angeles area, which included the addition of six, count 'em, six new death sequences! The film has been given a serious boost in violence, gore and bloodshed... but that's not the big news - we received word that an entire new finale has been shot. Details are mum on what is different, but we're told the new ending is quite gruesome!! Watch for the return of Michael Myers in classic fashion in only two months.
BLOODY-DISGUSTING.com
AllHallowsEve
07-02-07, 02:04 AM
'Halloween' Gets Insanely Gory, New Ending!
Some crazy new Intel came into B-D this morning as we've been informed that Rob Zombie has been hard at work filming new material for his remake of Halloween, which is slated for release on August 31. Today ended seven straight days of grueling filming around the Los Angeles area, which included the addition of six, count 'em, six new death sequences! The film has been given a serious boost in violence, gore and bloodshed... but that's not the big news - we received word that an entire new finale has been shot. Details are mum on what is different, but we're told the new ending is quite gruesome!! Watch for the return of Michael Myers in classic fashion in only two months.
BLOODY-DISGUSTING.com
Dimension Studios and Reshoots... That usually doesn't end well (I actually don't think it's ended well ever). Halloween 6, Halloween: Resurrection, Hellraiser: Bloodline, and Black Christmas '06 being prime examples.
Dimension Films really is the butcher studio. Up the blood and gore to make up for no substance in the actual film. Funny how all these reshoots were ordered immediately after the test screening.
Let's hope the foreign/indie fans don't enter this thread. We'll be hearing for hours how they butcher decent overseas films too. Which is actually true...
I'm hoping this time is different. Rob Zombie hasn't commented on any of this yet, but it's the weekend. They'll probably be more news on this soon.
Seantn
07-02-07, 02:45 AM
Six new deaths? Since they can't really add in six new MAJOR characters, my guess would be that these 6 people are going to be killed during Michael's escape at the beginning, or something along those lines. People introduced just so they can die 1 scene later.
And as for "insanely" gory, that's a stupid headline as it will just hype something up that can't possibly be met... and, well we all know how insanely gory the original Halloween was, right?
Oh wait...
troystiffler
07-02-07, 10:50 PM
Hrmph. I thought there was more love for Zombie after "The Devil's Rejects" came out. I really enjoyed. I feel like he's just one or two movies away from making a GREAT film (horror, schlock, or whatever it be).
The trailer was alright. Didn't get me too psyched about seeing it. But I'll see it anyways. In my eyes, it's got plenty potential to be good.
LivingINClip
07-02-07, 10:59 PM
Right, but both movie's he has done don't even have the remote feel of what the original Halloween was about. I think that is the biggest problem, people don't want a "insanely gory" Halloween remake.
AllHallowsEve
07-02-07, 11:22 PM
Hrmph. I thought there was more love for Zombie after "The Devil's Rejects" came out. I really enjoyed. I feel like he's just one or two movies away from making a GREAT film (horror, schlock, or whatever it be).
The trailer was alright. Didn't get me too psyched about seeing it. But I'll see it anyways. In my eyes, it's got plenty potential to be good.
Oh, it's nothing to really do with Rob Zombie.
It's just that when tons of reshoots are ordered after filming's completed (in this case March), it almost always means there are "big problems" with the film. Why else would reshoots need to be ordered this late? The film is suppose to be in post production at this point, not filming new stuff.
Why would the production or Zombie need 6 new death sequences (more than the first film had total; just new -- not counting the 10 or so others) and an entirely new finale if filming went well? Three+ months after filming supposedly finished?
That's the point. It seems like they're upping the blood and gore to make up for massive suckage potential. I could be very wrong, and I hope I am. It just seems to be the usual Dimension MO.
I tend to think Dimension makes horrible movies (when reshoots or editing are involved), so I'm not the best person to ask either.
Some will point to "Scream" and say that was good for a Dimension horror film. *None* of the Scream films had major reshoots during post production.
What Dimension horror films involved major reshoots? Halloween 6, Halloween: Resurrection, Black Christmas '06, Hellraiser 4 and a few other stinkers I can't think of. There's a theme there and anyone who's seen those films probably knows what it is.
Seantn
07-02-07, 11:47 PM
It's just that when tons of reshoots are ordered after filming's completed (in this case March), it almost always means there are "big problems" with the film. Why else would reshoots need to be ordered this late? The film is suppose to be in post production at this point, not filming new stuff.
I don't think that's a problem, really. The movie was finished filming in March, and was test screened for the first time about 2 weeks ago, and the re-shoots happened last week. They put themselves in the position of making the film and releasing it within a matter of 7-8 months, so that's the only reason for the close-to-release re-shoots.
Drop
07-02-07, 11:47 PM
Right, but both movie's he has done don't even have the remote feel of what the original Halloween was about. I think that is the biggest problem, people don't want a "insanely gory" Halloween remake.
Then they can go watch the original. If they're going to remake a film, then it better be a different take or there is no point.
Also, I wouldn't say either of his previous two films felt all that similar. Which is a good thing because it shows he is willing to change his style to suit the story. It also shows he isn't just a one noter.
I want to see this new Halloween because it's a Rob Zombie film, the fact that he is taking on Michael Meyers is just an interesting hook.
Also, I wouldn't presume to know what people want. Maybe an insanely gory Halloween is just what the people (whoever they are) want. The point of this remake is to shake up the Halloween franchise and make it something new and fresh (not to say the original is old and busted, but just different).
Kelkee
07-03-07, 08:34 AM
Also, I wouldn't presume to know what people want. Maybe an insanely gory Halloween is just what the people (whoever they are) want. The point of this remake is to shake up the Halloween franchise and make it something new and fresh (not to say the original is old and busted, but just different).
Then why not rebrand it completely instead of taking the same title and riding the coattails of the franchise?
Taking the same title, characters and such is a remake. Not something new and fresh. Halloween doesnt need a remaking. If he wants to retell it new and fresh I think it would be better to rebrand it "The Story of Michael Meyers" or some other such title.
Gore is not scary. More gore does not make it more scary. Its a complete lack of the ability to tell a story properly that one would have to resort to the over the top "insanely gory" cop out.
I mean if the whole point of the reshoots is to make it more "Saw/Hostel"-esque then what a waste of film. To cut and paste in edits that mimic the "hard-R" trend is tedious and unoriginal. Certainly not "new and fresh".
Seantn
07-03-07, 01:37 PM
. Halloween doesnt need a remaking. If he wants to retell it new and fresh I think it would be better to rebrand it "The Story of Michael Meyers" or some other such title
Welcome to last year. The movie has been remade, and being the millionth person to post "Halloween shouldn't be remade!" won't do anything to change that.
As for a remake - I think if they're going to remake it, they should do their own thing with it. The Dawn of the Dead remake did it right. Different characters, different ending, same setting, but different things happening.
If they actually called it "The Story of Michael Myers" then they'd be morons. Nobody would see that, where as people will actually go see a Halloween film that doesn't have a digit placed next to it's title.
Giles
07-03-07, 02:39 PM
Welcome to last year. The movie has been remade, and being the millionth person to post "Halloween shouldn't be remade!" won't do anything to change that.
As for a remake - I think if they're going to remake it, they should do their own thing with it. The Dawn of the Dead remake did it right. Different characters, different ending, same setting, but different things happening.
If they actually called it "The Story of Michael Myers" then they'd be morons. Nobody would see that, where as people will actually go see a Halloween film that doesn't have a digit placed next to it's title.
I agree, people were even miffed that there were no Kenneth Branagh's Henry I, II, III or IV... ;)
'Story of Michael Myers' sounds so Lifetime-ish.
Kelkee
07-03-07, 02:47 PM
I agree, people were even miffed that there were no Kenneth Branagh's Henry I, II, III or IV... ;)
'Story of Michael Myers' sounds so Lifetime-ish.
I said or some other such title. Just get off the 'Halloween' trainwreck.
Rebrand it and make it something else.
'Rob Zombie's Halloween Festival of Gore'. How bout that?
AllHallowsEve
07-05-07, 07:53 PM
Pulled from OHMB:
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Rob has just released the tracklisting for the Halloween Soundtrack. The CD also features cool clips from the movie in between the music.
There will also be a separate CD available featuring Tyler Bates' score, which we will hopefully get information on soon.
Soundtrack tracklisting:
1. Don't Fear The Reaper (Blue Oyster Cult)
2. Love Hurts (Nazareth)
3. Baby, I Love Your Way (Peter Frampton)
4. Tom Sawyer (Rush)
5. Let It Ride (Bachman-Turner Overdrive)
6. God Of Thunder (Kiss)
7. Love Is Like Oxygen (The Sweet)
8. Only Women Bleed (Alice Cooper)
9. Halloween 2 (The Misfits)
10. Halloween Theme (Tyler Bates)
11. Michael Stalks Laurie (Tyler Bates)
12. Mr. Sandman (Nan Vernon)
The soundtrack will hit stores on August 21st 2007.
DthRdrX
07-05-07, 08:13 PM
Well, I'm sure Zombie is shocked that someone told him to add more to one of his films instead of cutting violence/gore out.
Jackskeleton
07-11-07, 02:56 AM
Saw a test screening... Total piece of shit.
Seriously. I wasn't some die hard fan of the halloween series or anything. I thought the original and the sequels were watchable films and all but this was just total shit.. hmmm perhaps I should say it in a manner that most, if not all the characters talk like in the film
This fuck'n movie fuck'n sucked fuck'n fuck fuck asshole.... FUCK!
JaxComet
07-11-07, 03:01 PM
Hrmph. I thought there was more love for Zombie after "The Devil's Rejects" came out. I really enjoyed. I feel like he's just one or two movies away from making a GREAT film (horror, schlock, or whatever it be).
The trailer was alright. Didn't get me too psyched about seeing it. But I'll see it anyways. In my eyes, it's got plenty potential to be good.
It could be okay. I'll be willing to give it a watch. The old Halloween still holds up fairly well but it's far from perfect. I still find the 25-30 year olds playing teenagers a bit silly buy that's what they did back then.........
Obey The D
07-11-07, 03:26 PM
I still find the 25-30 year olds playing teenagers a bit silly buy that's what they did back then.........
They still do. Danielle Harris is over 30 and she's playing Annie Brackett in the remake.
Seantn
07-11-07, 03:43 PM
She's the same age as the woman who played her original role. The only one who was close to being the real age was Jamie Lee, who was 18 or 19 at the time.
chanster
07-11-07, 03:49 PM
John Carpenter (aka Bowling Green) wrote the one and only Halloween theme. Its a movie classic..no matter how many times it was used in shitty sequels.
Zen Peckinpah
07-11-07, 10:16 PM
They still do. Danielle Harris is over 30 and she's playing Annie Brackett in the remake.
Keep forgetting she was also the daughter in The Last Boy Scout too.
Rival11
07-11-07, 10:23 PM
As corny as Rejects got towards the end, I still have trust in Rob to pull this off. As someone mentioned above, he his willing to change his style to suit the story and I really thought the trailer looked excellent. Nothing looked too over the top and he's catering to the die hards of the original as well (as he should sice he his one too, even though he nit-picked the original in an interview he wasn't bashing it - he was just pointing out mainly what he would have like to seen more of i.e. why Michael is so evil - always touched on in the original but never shown.
AllHallowsEve
07-12-07, 02:18 AM
Here are some reviews:
The Aintitcool ones are from the mid-June screening (before the reshoots), the others (top and bottom) are from today (from last night's screening) -- All contain spoilers, so be warned:
Seriously. I wasn't some die hard fan of the halloween series or anything. I thought the original and the sequels were watchable films and all but this was just total shit.. hmmm perhaps I should say it in a manner that most, if not all the characters talk like in the film
This fuck'n movie fuck'n sucked fuck'n fuck fuck asshole.... FUCK!
Awww man! :(
KillerCannibal
07-12-07, 12:59 PM
My friend was at the screening on Tues (I passed, apparently a wise decision) and he said it was lame. Now keep in mind this guy is a major Halloween fan. He's well known as such in the horror film community so I trust his take on this. I'm still going to see the movie but this doesn't come as much of a surprise to me. He said many of the death scenes were flat and uninspired and that the entire backstory only served to dilute the mystique of Michael. However, none of this is surprising since no one, not even the man John Carpenter himself, could remake Halloween better. Why remake a movie you can't possibly do a better job with? He said it's essentially The Devil's Rejects meets Michael Myers. Take that for what it's worth.
AllHallowsEve
07-12-07, 02:41 PM
dilute the mystique of Michael.
Didn't this happen already when he was controlled by a cult and getting smacked upside the head/kung-fu-d by Busta Rhymes? Michael's mystique has been gone for many, many years in my opinion.
It really started during part 2 when Laurie was revealed as Michael's sister. Therefore, giving him purpose and throwing mystique out the window. However, even Carpenter hated the script (which he wrote) so what can you do...
So even if true, it's not a new thing. I don't expect something leveling the first film, but if this film can't even top half of the atrocious sequels, I'll be very disappointed.
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I wouldn't even trust Carpenter to make a successful horror film today. He's changed and turned into a money hog which is a shame. This was once a guy with a spark in his eye (as lame as that sounds) who wanted to bring out good/fun films. He was very ambitious. If he succeeded or failed is up to the person, but at least he meant well.
Wes Craven has also run out of steam. Look at how "The Hills Have Eyes 2" remake turned out. Truly one of the worst film in a long time.
Eli Roth? Ick...
This genre really needs someone with some form of creativity to rise. I'm getting sick of all the crap myself, so I know where many of you guys are coming from. I was really looking forward to Trick r' Treat, but it's been moved back.
onebyone
07-12-07, 03:27 PM
Didn't this happen already when he was controlled by a cult and getting smacked upside the head/kung-fu-d by Busta Rhymes? Michael's mystique has been gone for many, many years in my opinion.
Agreed, Michael's a chump and has been for a long time. He got his ass handed to him by Busta Rhymes for Pete's sake. There's no mystique. If Rob can bring any life into him at all, I will be impressed.
The reviews that were linked sound interesting and I look forward to it. I hope it's the rebirth of the dead, gone, and buried franchise. If it's not, my world will go on, and my Halloween dvd won't explode into flames because the remake was made.
KillerCannibal
07-12-07, 03:46 PM
I'll agree that Michael has been diluted to death, but I still don't need some overly long backstory on how he had a fucked up childhood, he's bipolar and now he's just another psycho in a mask. He's not even (apparently) indestructible. At least before you didn't know <i>why</i> he couldn't be killed, now we know why he's fucked up and that he's just another big dude in a mask. Either way it's still going to be better than Halloween 8, though.
AllHallowsEve
07-12-07, 05:29 PM
I'll agree that Michael has been diluted to death, but I still don't need some overly long backstory on how he had a fucked up childhood, he's bipolar and now he's just another psycho in a mask. He's not even (apparently) indestructible. At least before you didn't know <i>why</i> he couldn't be killed, now we know why he's fucked up and that he's just another big dude in a mask. Either way it's still going to be better than Halloween 8, though.
Do they really explain Michael as being "bi-polar" in this film? I couldn't tell if you're kidding or not. It's hard to tell; I could take that either way.
Oh lord, it will be the opening of Scary Movie 5 if that's true.
Either way, thanks. You did put a smile on my face. Not that it's good news (it's awful if real), but it did make me laugh.
AllHallowsEve
07-12-07, 09:43 PM
Here's an IMDB mini-review:
"i went to the same screening and had a very different reaction to this film i dont want to trash it cause i know rob zombie put alot of work into it and i really like the guys music and devils rejects but i have to this movie has no suspence and that not coparing it to the other you just always know where myers is always my opinon would be if anyone is that interested go see it cause you might love it but had to show a different side."
Yes, trying to decipher what this means is quite difficult.
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My favorite part comes next when one of the posters there responded to this review:
"I'm shocked you found your way to the screening considering you come across as mentally retarded. Like the guy who sees red on the street light, but, nonetheless continues walking into oncoming traffic. No offense... We all have our issues."
d2cheer
07-13-07, 01:42 PM
If this is as bad as it sounds and as the reviewers are making it out, maybe this will finally put an end to John Carpenter remakes... one can hope anyway.
AllHallowsEve
07-13-07, 01:47 PM
If this is as bad as it sounds and as the reviewers are making it out, maybe this will finally put an end to John Carpenter remakes... one can hope anyway.
Well, most of the "officially" written reviews were on the positive side -- or close to it.
I really take anything I read at IMDB, etc., with a grain of salt. They don't really list why they didn't like the movie, or any form of details. So, it's likely they never saw the movie. One guy even went out of his way to write a two page review -- which was declared false because scenes were explained that don't exist in the film.
I did ask several questions and received no response.
There is also a group of digruntled Carpenter fans trying to destroy this movie. They picketed the film and are spreading BS all across the internet. The picketing even made our news when it happened.
It really makes no sense, because if they are so against anything ruining their beloved original, why didn't they picket Halloween 2 and so on... Halloween 2-8 (sans 3) are basically nothing more than remakes in the form of bloody tape loops anyway. Even John Carpenter still wants to picket Halloween 2 -- and it's 26 years later.
Seantn
07-13-07, 03:09 PM
Reviews seem split, some hate it and some love it
AllHallowsEve
07-13-07, 03:50 PM
Reviews seem split, some hate it and some love it
Do you happen to know of any other sites that have posted actual reviews (besides Halloweenmovies, Aintitcool, and Cinema Blend)?
Basically, I'm looking for "real" reviews. Not just "I hate it" or "I love it" (that doesn't say much of anything, and it leaves big questions on if they actually saw it or not).
Dump the IMDB. It's useless for information, but that's common knowledge for any film.
I'm interested in reading both the positive and negative ones.
Thanks.
P.S. I'm still wondering if Michael being Bi-Polar is an actual plot point in this film.
Jackskeleton
07-13-07, 04:45 PM
This will be an FBI text just to avoid someone falling into spoilers
The major problem in this film is that they take away the mystery behind Myers. He's just some off kid who likes to kill animals and eventually moves up to "kill anything but his baby sister" mode. It's rather stupid. The film opens up with true Rob Zombie fashion and the dialogue is awful. I mean, really really awful. We meet the dysfunctional myers family in all their glory. Moon played Myers mom in only a way that lacked any emotion and replaced it with crazed up bitch while she entertained having a worthless deadbeat new husband. You have the typical sexed up sister who gets hit on by deadbeat new husband and you see how Myers grew up with a stupid clown mask hiding his terrible anti-social behavior of killing small animals and taking Polaroids of. This introduces Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Loomis who warns of little mikey's future problems a good two minutes before Michael kills his first person. A school bully who went one step too far in picking on Myers. This death goes unnoticed and forgotten though as it's Halloween and Myers now jumps to killing deadbeat step dad, his sisters boy toy (who, by chance introduces the Myers Mask during sex) Myers eventually works his way up to were his sister is sleeping and finds the mask, puts it on and takes a stab at his sis. We're shown how much he loves his younger sister "boo" as we will call her and how he's waiting outside with boo in hand for his mother to arrive back from working at a strip club. Thanks Rob, as if we haven't seen Moon naked or stripping for us enough.
So that's how it starts out, the madness. Dr. Loomis becomes the caretaker of Myers as he grows up in "the system" as we find out that Myers is an entirely different person without the mask on as he is with them on. He doesn't remember anything bad he did while he is hiding behind some mask and as he grows older his jail cell fills with paper made mask. It's like the WWE called and demanded they put Kane into this film.
So after about 15 years of this (or so the black screen with white text would tell us) go by we see Myers grow to be the size of a house. Dr. Loomis eventually gives up on Myers and retires writing a book about his findings. For some odd reason, after 15 years of staying in the same cell an order comes down to move the big lug. Oh the escape in this shot is just so bad. The only real saving grace.. well, infact, it wasn't much of a saving grace was Danny Trejo's cameo in the film as one of the prison workers who grows to take care of Myers over the years. Don't worry, Myers does his big ol' actions and kills him without mercy last before he escapes.
So now he kills a lot of people for shits and giggles and goes back to find his old original Myers rubber mask, which I'm sure that after 15 years of being hidden in the crawl space of a broke down house would be just as good as new! We're finally introduced to the adult Laurie who you can tell from a mile away is Boo. Zombie really screwed the pooch here because Laurie's character development is used by Zombie as much as I use spell check. She was a flat character who was basiclly the good one of her group of slutty friends. I'm already bored talking about this but let's just say the movie was pretty bad. Oh yeah, Dr. Loomis eventually tries to stop Myers by warning the town shierff after the escape. I can only imagine you have some idea what happens in the resolution of that.
Myers is not made the unstoppable monster we knew of him before and really, it's a shame. Because of the whole idea of making him human by character flaws you pretty much raise an eyebrow when he takes a couple of shots and stands up or takes a knife to the shoulder blade and keeps walking.
Yeah... it was pretty bad.
onebyone
07-13-07, 04:50 PM
There's a lot of good reviews so I don't think the reviews make it sound bad at all. All the bad ones because they all have one thing in common - they don't want the mystery of Michael lifted at all. I think it is a deal or no deal matter. I think I will be able to deal with it myself so I am not too worried.
Some of the haters have been bashing the movie since it was announced, and some of the people who like it have been hyping it since that very time. As for me, I'll make my own call on opening day.
Jackskeleton
07-13-07, 05:09 PM
they don't want the mystery of Michael lifted at all.
I really wouldn't have minded or cared if the mystery was lifted. It's the way they lifted it into something that is totally cliche and over used already that makes it something that is nothing new and most of all, very uninteresting.
Not to mention that if you lift that mystery healing factor then you have to actually face the reality that someone who gets stabbed in the shoulder blade can't be breaking down walls with single punches after. Or should be standing or even moving after taking a couple of rounds to the back.
If you make him into some total pussy who only wants to find his little sister and wear stupid paper mask then that relentless killer who can't be stopped needs to get tossed into the back seat.
DeputyDave
07-14-07, 05:38 AM
The movie hasn't even come out (and of course I haven't seen it yet) but I'm already hoping for an unrated DVD, considering the stuff that is getting cut.
Too bad Zombie isn't exactly known for coming through with those.
cerial442
07-14-07, 03:30 PM
The movie hasn't even come out (and of course I haven't seen it yet) but I'm already hoping for an unrated DVD, considering the stuff that is getting cut.
Too bad Zombie isn't exactly known for coming through with those.
Devil's Rejects did.
Artman
07-14-07, 04:00 PM
So Jack, is this pretty extreme in terms of content? One of the great things about the original is that it's so restrained, that even a casual horror fan like myself (more suspense/thriller rather than slasher/gorefest) can enjoy it.... but this one sounds like the exact opposite.
Also, do rock songs pop up every othere scene or is there some actual quiet moments?
Rogue588
07-14-07, 07:36 PM
A question about these screenings..In that supposedly disturbing rape scene, who gets raped and who does the raping?
Jackskeleton
07-14-07, 11:30 PM
Also, do rock songs pop up every othere scene or is there some actual quiet moments?
Well, it's not all that fair to comment on this as a lot of test screenings use generic filler soundtracks/songs. I saw Narnia that had a lot of bjork songs in it. But Zombie managed to fit in "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" in about two or three death scenes which had me calling for more cowbell.
There is a lot of classic rock songs and very little silent moments during the killings that it does become less suspense and more gore.
As for Rape scene.. there wasn't any. The sister he does kill just had sex with her boyfriend before he goes down to the kitchen and makes himself a sandwich/gets bashed in with a steel bat. One of Lauries' friend gets choked after having typical horror film sex in the myers old home and another of her friends dies in the same fashion in her home during sex. But no one does any raping.
Fuck.. I just realized that there was THREE CLICHE horror film killings in the same fashion in one movie. Fuck you Rob Zombie. Fuck you!
Rogue588
07-15-07, 12:22 AM
As for Rape scene.. there wasn't any...But no one does any raping. Weird. A few of those "reviews" mention that. Maybe those were the screenings held in NYC and it didn't make it to your coast?
Monsters HD has been showing the first five Halloween flicks and a documentary today. Right now, they're reshowing HIII: Season Of the Witch. It's a shame it gets trashed as much as it does. It's really not that bad of a flick...right?
onebyone
07-15-07, 01:29 AM
I hope that they cut it actually. It is the one thing in some of the "reviews" that sounds like it would be better off on the cutting room floor.
AllHallowsEve
07-15-07, 07:57 PM
The movie hasn't even come out (and of course I haven't seen it yet) but I'm already hoping for an unrated DVD, considering the stuff that is getting cut.
Too bad Zombie isn't exactly known for coming through with those.
The film originally made it through the MPAA intact before the reshoots with no cuts. They approved it.
Not sure if the new version -- with added gore and violence -- will make it through intact or not. There's been no news on that yet.
And yes... Devil's Rejects did have an Unrated release, so that will probably happen with this film -- if anything is cut.
The MPAA has been relatively lenient lately. Makes sense: There's been really no major violent events linked to movies lately. They usually get cut happy when something happens or too many people start complaining. There'll be "scissor happy" periods again -- at the sign of the next major event most likely -- but it's not today.
If Hostel 2 were a hit, that would have led to an MPAA crackdown, but fortunately no one saw the movie. It basically bombed, so no one cared enough to complain. It's the hits that usually lead to the problems. Friday the 13th... Scream... The Matrix... etc.
cerial442
07-16-07, 02:21 PM
It's really not that bad of a flick...right?
It wouldn't have been that bad if it didn't have a ton of obvious plot holes. I'm forgiving when it comes to horror films, but some of those are pretty bad (the west coast feed is being played after the east coast one, wouldn't word get out of what happened?).
DeputyDave
07-16-07, 05:04 PM
It wouldn't have been that bad if it didn't have a ton of obvious plot holes. I'm forgiving when it comes to horror films, but some of those are pretty bad (the west coast feed is being played after the east coast one, wouldn't word get out of what happened?).I looked at in a whole new light after watching the doc on the Halloween 25th anniversary DVD. Carpenter not wanting to do any more MM movies (and who would really cry if they stopped at 1 and 2?), instead wanting to do a different stand alone horror movie every year under the Halloween banner. I wish it would have worked, that would have rocked.
MTRodaba2468
07-17-07, 02:44 AM
Six new deaths? Since they can't really add in six new MAJOR characters, my guess would be that these 6 people are going to be killed during Michael's escape at the beginning, or something along those lines. People introduced just so they can die 1 scene later.
And as for "insanely" gory, that's a stupid headline as it will just hype something up that can't possibly be met... and, well we all know how insanely gory the original Halloween was, right?
Oh wait...
I'm thinking that the "six new deaths" are probably the existing death scenes re-shot to be more graphic.
That worries me a bit. As Living mentioned, I'm not looking forward to an "insanely gory" Halloween remake. As far as I'm concerned, the original Halloween worked because instead of putting an emphasis on gore and trying to gross out the viewers, Carpenter & Co. focused on making the movie scary.
magman
07-17-07, 06:30 AM
Hoping this is good. If anybody can pull it off, Rob Zombie can.
cerial442
07-17-07, 09:45 AM
I looked at in a whole new light after watching the doc on the Halloween 25th anniversary DVD. Carpenter not wanting to do any more MM movies (and who would really cry if they stopped at 1 and 2?), instead wanting to do a different stand alone horror movie every year under the Halloween banner. I wish it would have worked, that would have rocked.
I think it would have worked, if they would have gotten a better story or rewrote it. The fact that Micheal isn't in it doesn't bother me, the story itself needs some work. They had the right ideas and were almost there.
DeputyDave
07-17-07, 12:27 PM
I think it would have worked, if they would have gotten a better story or rewrote it. The fact that Micheal isn't in it doesn't bother me, the story itself needs some work. They had the right ideas and were almost there.I think it would have worked if they went with Carpenter's idea NOT to do Halloween 2. Back then no one expected sequels, after the 2nd one people realized they could have more of what they liked (which was Michael).
John Carpenter had a made for HBO anthology movie in 1993 (with Tobe Hopper!) called Body Bags (as far as I know it’s never been out on DVD). If he were to do that in 2 hour "episodes" every year for theatrical release I think it would have gone over well, and maybe have started a trend in Hollywood.
Jackskeleton
07-17-07, 03:14 PM
Hoping this is good. If anybody can pull it off, Rob Zombie can.
Well I got news for you, he didn't. :p
AllHallowsEve
07-18-07, 12:42 AM
I think the character changes are really going to bother people who are familiar with the character. It won't effect the mainstream much at all.
I hate to say it, but a good portion of the populace doesn't even know what they're watching.
H20 was the last major Halloween film, and it showed. The amount of people asking the most idiotic questions was staggering: Is that her brother? Who is she? I thought her name was Jamie Lee? Is he wearing a vest?
It really just ruined the whole experience. I expect this film to be the same way.
You'll have a bunch of new people who don't know it's a remake; you'll have a new generation explaining how "deep" and action packed it is compared to the original; and in general, for the rest of our days, there will be "remake" vs. "original" thread fights on websites all across the globe.
It's certainly going to be one ugly opening weekend. I'll be taking that one off.
onebyone
07-18-07, 01:47 PM
It's certainly going to be one ugly opening weekend. I'll be taking that one off.
Yep, no matter how it does, the internet is going to be ugly when it hits. I am going to see it, post my two cents, and avoid every Halloween thread for at least two weeks after that. The haters and the fans have been squaring off for months now and it hasn't even been properly released yet. Lord knows what is going to happen when it is released. They are still cleaning up the Dawn of the Dead bloodshed.
Matthew Chmiel
07-18-07, 02:20 PM
They are still cleaning up the Dawn of the Dead bloodshed.
I'm pretty sure the bloodshed from that incident was cleaned up when everyone actually saw it and was like, "Wow, that was actually pretty good. I should probably stop posting schmucky comments to films that I've never seen before."
Jackskeleton
07-18-07, 02:53 PM
Yeah, I think I was the first to eat the biggest serving of crow pie when Dawn of the Dead came out. I'm sure if you search the forums you would see me totally bash the very idea of remaking such an awesome film and then seeing it and being blown away at how good it was and how wrong I was.
I'm not opposed to remakes. I'm just opposed to them when they are done terribly like what is the case here with Halloween.
onebyone
07-18-07, 02:54 PM
I'm pretty sure the bloodshed from that incident was cleaned up when everyone actually saw it and was like, "Wow, that was actually pretty good. I should probably stop posting schmucky comments to films that I've never seen before."
You think? I remember the fighting going on long after that, but I could be wrong. I liked the movie (save one zombie baby) and remember going into the thread and thinking, "damn, I am not jumping into that mess." Maybe I have this place confused with another forum that is still are prone to fights about it.
Regardless, I cannot wait for Halloween and won't be jumping into the fray about it, love it or hate it. I trust Rob more than most directors who have helmed a remake.
Rogue588
07-18-07, 03:38 PM
That 'documentary" I mention on MonstersHD was actually 6 minutes of PJ Soles, Nancy Loomis & Charles Cyphers talking about Halloween and its fans. And the other 9 was Rob and Rob's manager talking about the original and Rob's remake. Rob made some comments that were terribly hypocritical. So much so, I wish I had recorded it or wrote them down for accuracy.
One was a comment about "remakes".
The other was his comment about Michael being so scary because he's a "blank slate" and the audience projects their fears onto him (that much I did remember) - I thought that was ironic, since he's supposedly doing everything in his power to make sure Mike's "slate" is far from blank..
DeputyDave
07-18-07, 11:40 PM
That 'documentary" I mention on MonstersHD was actually 6 minutes of PJ Soles, Nancy Loomis & Charles Cyphers talking about Halloween and its fans. And the other 9 was Rob and Rob's manager talking about the original and Rob's remake. Rob made some comments that were terribly hypocritical. So much so, I wish I had recorded it or wrote them down for accuracy.
One was a comment about "remakes".
The other was his comment about Michael being so scary because he's a "blank slate" and the audience projects their fears onto him (that much I did remember) - I thought that was ironic, since he's supposedly doing everything in his power to make sure Mike's "slate" is far from blank..
In Halloween 1 and 2, Carpenter listed the killer as only "The Shape" in the credits (other than when listing the actor/actors who played him without the mask).
someone explain to me the genius of opening this movie on August 31st and not sometime in... ohh, I dunno... October?!
riley_dude
07-22-07, 10:30 PM
Hoping this is good. If anybody can pull it off, Rob Zombie can.
What would give you that idea? Just because he made two gory (torture porn) horror movies, with little story, doesn't mean he can pull off a remake of a classic horror movie.
Chad
07-22-07, 10:42 PM
someone explain to me the genius of opening this movie on August 31st and not sometime in... ohh, I dunno... October?!
When it inevitably flops at the box office and is out of theaters within two weeks, it'll give the studio sufficient time to get an early October DVD release out in time for Halloween. :p
Rogue588
07-22-07, 11:13 PM
:lol:
GizmoDVD
07-22-07, 11:23 PM
When it inevitably flops at the box office and is out of theaters within two weeks, it'll give the studio sufficient time to get an early October DVD release out in time for Halloween. :p
Bingo.
GizmoDVD
07-22-07, 11:31 PM
Looking forward to this. Kinda bummed that I missed the test screening in Chatsworth. Is that where you went Jack?
AllHallowsEve
07-23-07, 09:35 PM
someone explain to me the genius of opening this movie on August 31st and not sometime in... ohh, I dunno... October?!
The highest grossing sequel (H20) was released in August.
Actually, the highest grossing Halloween, Elm Street, and Friday the 13th sequels -- 7, 4, and 3 respectively -- were all released in August. Freddy vs. Jason (which grossed over 100 million w.w.) was also released in August.
This movie won't bomb. It will likely open in the early 20's+. I expect H20's inflated opening numbers for this film.
The last Halloween film that was released in October was Halloween 5 in 1989 -- the one that made the least money in the series.
August is actually a good month for horror -- believe it or not.
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Notice that the people saying this will flop own films such as Jason X, Halloween: Resurrection, and Halloween 6. Use that to draw your own conclusions... ;)
Kelkee
07-24-07, 08:03 AM
Hostel 2 should give us an idea of how this "new horror" trend is making out as of late. I expect Rob Zombie's Halloween to have the same fate.
DeputyDave
07-24-07, 08:32 PM
Actually (regardless of how good this is, and I'm losing hope) I expect pretty good numbers opening weekend (25-30 million). At least as good as the TCM remake. Halloween has about the same name recognition as TCM and adds Rob's name as well.
chris_sc77
07-24-07, 08:42 PM
I really think that they should have waited until October for this one as well...
I think it will do decent in August but I think it could have done better if it waited about 6 weeks.
I think audiences wont flock to see saw 4 like they did with the first 3 saw films and I think this could have done close to 80 million if it waited until Mid. October.
DonnachaOne
07-24-07, 08:52 PM
What would give you that idea? Just because Rob Zombie made two gory (torture porn) horror moviesRob Zombie made two torture porn movies? What are they called? I only know House Of 1,000 Corpses and The Devil's Rejects, where only the latter has one scene which could be argued as showing a character being tortured...
I'm no fan of House and I like Devils, but calling them "torture porn" just makes you look ignorant, Riley. You may as well call The Departed a musical. After all, Jack Nicholson sings in one scene.
nateman
07-25-07, 12:16 PM
^^^ First off, I'd love to see Departed: The Musical. If anyone call pull it off it's Jack Nicholson ;) I have no idea if this movie is going to be any good. With the state the Horror genre has been in as of late, I tend to believe that this one is probally going to be awful. In my opinion the Halloween franchise has the worst track record for making bad sequels. I know TCM has been far from perfect but they havn't made nearly as many TCM sequels/prequels as Halloween has. Albit that TCM: Next Generation is dangerously to being the worst horror movie ever made.
DeputyDave
07-27-07, 03:21 AM
There's a great interview with Rob on AICN here. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33454)
As much as I respect JackSkeleton's opinion, this interview gives me a bit of hope, and I hope he's wrong (like running zombies!).
I'll try to go into this with an open mind and not compare it to the original.
DthRdrX
07-27-07, 06:55 AM
Halloween always had a thing with August release dates. I don't think they want to fight it out with the Saw franchise, which like it or not has been a huge success for Lionsgate.
btw,
Zombie stating he won't do a remake only confirms that Halloween 2 Redux will be directed by someone else ....
cerial442
07-27-07, 08:36 AM
The last Halloween film that was released in October was Halloween 5 in 1989 -- the one that made the least money in the series.
Halloween 6 also came out around then. I remember seeing that as it was leaving theaters in early November.
raven56706
07-27-07, 09:07 AM
maybe in this movie, someone can explain to me how a psychopath can get shot burned, stabbed and still be alive
xfilefanfreak
07-27-07, 09:45 AM
the thing that piss me off is ..a new or remake i dont care would love 2 see any horror movie .but at my local mall ( REGAL ) WERE I LIVE DOSENT SHOW THEM WE BITCH BUT DOESNT DO ANYTHING .WE DONT GET ANY HORROR MOVIES .IF WE WANT TO WATCH A HORROR MOVIE WE HAVE TO DRIVE OVER 50 MILES TO THE NEXT MALL.SO WE HAVE 2 WAIT TILL DVD THEN WE WATCH IT ON OUR 110 MOVIE SCREEN .BUT WAITING SUCKS....SARATOGA SPRINGS NY IS A SUCKY PLACE TO LIVE
raven56706
07-27-07, 09:58 AM
the thing that piss me off is ..a new or remake i dont care would love 2 see any horror movie .but at my local mall ( REGAL ) WERE I LIVE DOSENT SHOW THEM WE BITCH BUT DOESNT DO ANYTHING .WE DONT GET ANY HORROR MOVIES .IF WE WANT TO WATCH A HORROR MOVIE WE HAVE TO DRIVE OVER 50 MILES TO THE NEXT MALL.SO WE HAVE 2 WAIT TILL DVD THEN WE WATCH IT ON OUR 110 MOVIE SCREEN .BUT WAITING SUCKS....SARATOGA SPRINGS NY IS A SUCKY PLACE TO LIVE
lol.....this is going to be my signature
Cosmic Bus
07-27-07, 10:07 AM
the thing that piss me off is ..a new or remake i dont care would love 2 see any horror movie .but at my local mall ( REGAL ) WERE I LIVE DOSENT SHOW THEM WE BITCH BUT DOESNT DO ANYTHING .WE DONT GET ANY HORROR MOVIES .IF WE WANT TO WATCH A HORROR MOVIE WE HAVE TO DRIVE OVER 50 MILES TO THE NEXT MALL.SO WE HAVE 2 WAIT TILL DVD THEN WE WATCH IT ON OUR 110 MOVIE SCREEN .BUT WAITING SUCKS....SARATOGA SPRINGS NY IS A SUCKY PLACE TO LIVE
:lol: It's especially funny to me because I deal with the same thing (and the same theater chain) all the time. Eight screens in about a 75 mile radius. I love it. -rolleyes-
cerial442
07-27-07, 10:51 AM
maybe in this movie, someone can explain to me how a psychopath can get shot burned, stabbed and still be alive
Because he is pure evil.
xfilefanfreak
07-27-07, 11:32 AM
i cant wait 2 see it ,i hold that movie veary high.just like j c .the thing thats a great movie..r zombie love his tunes.but am i the 1 person that watched his last movie and said that suckd .i kind of hope it bombs so i dont have 2 wait that long for the dvd
cerial442
07-27-07, 02:43 PM
i cant wait 2 see it ,i hold that movie veary high.just like j c .the thing thats a great movie..r zombie love his tunes.but am i the 1 person that watched his last movie and said that suckd .i kind of hope it bombs so i dont have 2 wait that long for the dvd
What?
gerrythedon
07-27-07, 09:41 PM
Rob Zombie Isn't Interested In A 'Halloween' Sequel: 'It Won't Involve Me'
Director also talks about his favorite scene in August 31 remake, how he'll avoid horror geeks at Comic-Con.
As he navigates the final weeks before the August 31 release of "Halloween," Rob Zombie is trapped in the mind of the horror icon with the soulless stare 24/7.
Re-launching Michael Myers for a new generation hasn't been easy, but the grisly auteur is convinced that his new "Halloween" bridges the gaps between remake and innovation, mythology and psychology, and murder and mass appeal (see "Rob Zombie Talks 'Halloween': 'A Bloodbath Doesn't Interest Me' "). This week, Rob called in from the flick's post-production headquarters for a candid conversation about horror geeks, improv acting and his fantasies of mowing down the cast of "Grey's Anatomy" with his car.
MTV: What's the latest on "Halloween"? How's it going?
Rob Zombie: It's going great, actually. I'm on the mixing stage right now working on the sound, which is the final thing you do.
MTV: So you're on track?
Zombie: Everything's going great, and we'll be done August 10th.
MTV: And you'll be going down to Comic-Con with some footage?
Zombie: Yeah, that's on Friday, I believe.
MTV: Are you ready to face the geeks?
Zombie: Well I've done it before, so I know what to expect. I pretty much get in and get out. I can't hang around much — if I walk the floor, people just mob you. It's so crowded, and people start asking for autographs and taking pictures, and you never really see anything. So I'll just do my thing and split.
MTV: When we visited your set, you spoke about walking the tightrope between faithfulness to John Carpenter's classic and creating something new. Were you able to pull it off?
Zombie: Oh, completely. Now that the movie is basically done, it worked out great. The film is 100 percent its own animal, but it has enough classic elements of the original to satisfy.
MTV: What was the one scene you had the most fun shooting?
Zombie: The first scene in the movie that we shot the first day of shooting. It's a simple scene of breakfast at the Myers' house with young Michael, his mom, the boyfriend and the sister. Everyone is yelling and screaming at each other. [He laughs.] I love it, because all you have to do is watch that scene for about 10 seconds and you just go, "Well, this certainly isn't John Carpenter's 'Halloween.' "
MTV: So they aren't sitting around and politely asking each other to pass the orange juice?
Zombie: No. [He laughs.] It's a pretty intense scene. It's just craziness.
MTV: Do scenes like that establish Michael's desire to kill?
Zombie: There's nothing that happens in the movie that explains why Michael is the way he is. I wanted to make it real, and the reality of the situation is that anyone who is like this is born that way, not created.
MTV: Do you believe that in real life? Like, what about the Columbine kids?
Zombie: No, no, that's different. A textbook psychotic has no understanding of what they're doing. Something like Columbine, those were kids pushed over the edge and became that — but they knew what they were doing. They were responding to something in their lives that made them do that. A true psychotic is someone who could seem very friendly and charming, then kill you and feel nothing for it: Henry Lee Lucas, Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer. There's no sense of understanding anything on a human level. The Columbine kids, those were kids who had obviously gone off the rails. That's different.
MTV: So when young Michael speaks, have you tried to inject that charisma?
Zombie: Well, yes, but not that he's charismatic. There just has to be a character that the audience will follow. ... The difference between this movie and the original is that this is the story of Michael Myers. The other movie was about Laurie Strode.
MTV: We've had a lot of movies come out lately with kids like Dakota Fanning or Cameron Bright being creepy and staring off into the distance.
Zombie: This isn't like that at all.
MTV: How is young Michael different from those guys?
Zombie: Because he seems normal. A psychotic can seem normal. I really did do research. ... A psychotic kid is a kid who hurts animals and has no real concept that what he's doing is wrong. How does it manifest itself at a young age and then turn into someone who does grow up to be a serial killer? They can't be disciplined. They start fires. They kill animals.
MTV: I heard you guys filmed the asylum scenes next to a "Grey's Anatomy" shoot. Did you freak Katherine Heigl out?
Zombie: We filmed at the V.A. Hospital in North Hills, which is just enormous. They could have been filming there or not filming there. I have no idea. Honestly, I wouldn't know the cast of "Grey's Anatomy" if I rammed them with my car.
MTV: In the video for "Never Gonna Stop," you dressed as Alex from "A Clockwork Orange." Now you're directing Malcolm McDowell himself, Had he seen the clip?
Zombie: Truthfully, I never asked him. I did that so long ago. I forgot all about it!
MTV: I would think watching a vet like McDowell work with a newbie like Scout Taylor-Compton would be interesting
Zombie: The most interesting pairing with Malcolm is Daeg Faerch, who plays young Michael. ... Daeg's 10, a great young actor, but he's good at playing — you know, kids play. I would tell Daeg or Malcolm to ask the other a question spontaneously during a take, just to see what they would say back.
MTV: Like what?
Zombie: Well, I had young Michael just asks Dr. Loomis, "How come you talk so funny?" Because the character is English, and it's never really addressed, and in reality this kid from Illinois would probably ask him that. Malcolm's candid response was that he just kind of laughed, because he didn't know what to say. It was a nice, human, real moment.
MTV: And that'll make it in the film?
Zombie: Yeah it did. That's definitely in the movie.
MTV: What's next for you? Will you take some time off?
Zombie: I'm trying to finish this movie, and then I'll probably go on tour starting in October. ... I have a live record coming out, and I'll just go back on tour. I just need a break. I need to clear my head after this movie, before I figure out what the next one is.
MTV: So being on the road, in a different city every night, is a vacation for you?
Zombie: Yeah! [He laughs.] It's so easy, compared to making a movie. It's fun. You go, you play. What else is there?
MTV: And you won't be coming up with ideas for "Halloween" sequels on the tour bus?
Zombie: No. I have no plans on watching them or making them. [He laughs.] My movie has a beginning, a middle and an end — and then I am done. Anything that comes after that? It will not involve me.
MTV.com
CreamyGoodness
07-28-07, 04:28 AM
maybe in this movie, someone can explain to me how a psychopath can get shot burned, stabbed and still be alive
Because it WAS the boogeyman. Didn't you see the movie...?
And just for the record, this remake is the worst idea, EVER!
I really wish that today's filmmakers would stop eating up others films and vomiting out crap. Come up with something original.
nateman
07-28-07, 09:05 AM
i cant wait 2 see it ,i hold that movie veary high.just like j c .the thing thats a great movie..r zombie love his tunes.but am i the 1 person that watched his last movie and said that suckd .i kind of hope it bombs so i dont have 2 wait that long for the dvd
Ok, great that you have decided to join DVDTalk & all that & I admit I'm not the greatest speller in the world or anything but this isn't MSN messenger. I have no idea what you are saying?
Seantn
07-28-07, 09:36 AM
I'll translate for him guys, don't worry.
Wut R U talkin 'bout non of us on dtalk speek ur forrin languige
taffer
07-28-07, 10:26 AM
i cant wait 2 see it ,i hold that movie veary high.just like j c .the thing thats a great movie..r zombie love his tunes.but am i the 1 person that watched his last movie and said that suckd .i kind of hope it bombs so i dont have 2 wait that long for the dvd
Zombie: The first scene in the movie that we shot the first day of shooting. It's a simple scene of breakfast at the Myers' house with young Michael, his mom, the boyfriend and the sister. Everyone is yelling and screaming at each other. [He laughs.] I love it, because all you have to do is watch that scene for about 10 seconds and you just go, "Well, this certainly isn't John Carpenter's 'Halloween.'
I hated this cause it's not myers at all but it's some sort of generic devils rejects group with kids and it's just fuck'n annoying.
Rogue588
08-07-07, 01:34 AM
During the SDCC G4 specials, that cute chick was trying to get an adjective out of Rob to describe this movie (as opposed to "remake").
He summed it up by saying "If Carpenter's "Halloween" is a short story, mine is a novel".
Obey The D
08-07-07, 10:49 AM
So from watching the trailer it appears that Micheal wears the Captain Kirk mask when he's a child. I chuckled a bit because it looks enormous on him. I guess that's how they justify it still fitting him once he's an adult and he's ten fucking feet tall. Also, when he attacks everyone in the hospital wearing that mask he made all I could think of was Mick "Mankind" Foley.
I'll still probably wind up catching this, but I'll be going into it with very low expectations.
wm lopez
08-07-07, 01:16 PM
I had high hopes, but after watching the trailer on VH-1 it looks like your tipical modern, noisy, in your face horror movie.
raven56706
08-07-07, 01:22 PM
the thing that made halloween scary was the gloomy lighting.... the music and the fact that they didnt have to show any blood...
kilcher
08-08-07, 11:20 AM
So from watching the trailer it appears that Micheal wears the Captain Kirk mask when he's a child. I chuckled a bit because it looks enormous on him. I guess that's how they justify it still fitting him once he's an adult and he's ten fucking feet tall. Also, when he attacks everyone in the hospital wearing that mask he made all I could think of was Mick "Mankind" Foley.
I'll still probably wind up catching this, but I'll be going into it with very low expectations.
I believe it's been posted elsewhere that it's a mask made from paper.
Rival11
08-08-07, 04:19 PM
Why the hell is everyone bashing this flick already? It looks damn good and a hell of a lot more intense then Carpenters. I know, the original Halloween barely used any blood, was toned down, day scenes were awesome, blah, blah, blah.
Look, yes I love the original Halloween but I somewhat gave up on it because of the cheesy dialouge and well, it's just a low budget borefest - does it suck? Fuck no but it's dated and has lost it's appeal a bit (for me anyway).
Hey, I'm not saying this film is gonna be the best ever but it looks like Zombie has done his homework and there are a lot of classic/homage shots shown in the most recent trailer.
invisiblegt
08-09-07, 12:30 AM
For me, one of the biggest reasons that this just doesn't feel right is that Myers is freakishly superhuman in proportion to any normal human being. To see him rip apart people and survive attacks, as tall and massive as he is, isn't entirely a stretch.
For me, that's part of the reason the original was terrifying. Nick Castle was slightly above average in height (something like 6"1') and was of average weight for that build. However, in the new film, Tyler Mane is in the area of 6"9', and considerably more well built.
For me, it was the fact that there was this average looking man, a man who, sans mask, you could see about anywhere, simply walking around destroying people and their lives. It brought a sense of realism to the theatrical nature of it all.
EDIT: I just realized I used "for me" to open each paragraph in my post. Weird...
Jackskeleton
08-09-07, 04:59 AM
Why the hell is everyone bashing this flick already? It looks damn good and a hell of a lot more intense then Carpenters. I know, the original Halloween barely used any blood, was toned down, day scenes were awesome, blah, blah, blah.
Because after already seeing it, it isn't halloween at all and is rather a piece of shit. So is there justification in bashing the flick if you've already seen it?
JaxComet
08-09-07, 03:16 PM
Look, yes I love the original Halloween but I somewhat gave up on it because of the cheesy dialouge and well, it's just a low budget borefest - does it suck? Fuck no but it's dated and has lost it's appeal a bit (for me anyway).
I'd have to agree to a point. The old Halloween is still great as long as nobody is speaking.............
Johnny Zhivago
08-09-07, 04:13 PM
I'll take Jack's word for it... That trailer looks fucking awful and I'm not at all surprised by that.
AllHallowsEve
08-09-07, 10:21 PM
This movie is being pretty much made for the teenage generation who finds Halloween ultra boring. You can even see it in some of the reviews. The AICN review from someone who was so bored during the original that he fell asleep.
And this is usually the case. They don't tend to like it as the movie has dated. This is basically Halloween, gone action, for the ADD generation. I can see them liking it. Anyone who thinks the original is some kind of gold standard will probably hate it.
I've always been borderline positive to the original. It's a good movie, but a tad slow, tends to have bad acting, and also contains many plotholes (like how did Michael get that tombstone all the way upstairs in Lindey's house? how come no one in town noticed a large man in a mask hauling this tombstone?).
It's not really my favorite horror movie, so I'm probably shoot or miss when it comes to this film.
AllHallowsEve
08-09-07, 10:26 PM
Because after already seeing it, it isn't halloween at all and is rather a piece of shit. So is there justification in bashing the flick if you've already seen it?
Is it worse than H20 and Freddy vs. Jason -- two of the worst "horror" movies I have ever seen?
Is it worse than Halloween 5,6,8 (the worst sequels in cinematic history)? Three things damaged this series far more than this remake's idea:
1. Thorn
2. Michael's baby (after Michael Myers raped an underage Jamie Lloyd due to Thorn's influence. Incest.)
3. Busta Rhymes
Face it... Myers is already a mockery and has been for nearly 20 years. He's constantly been thrown into ridiculous plots with ridiculous characters -- not to mention showing up in Dawson's Creekville in '98 for a PG-13 teeniebopper lovestory. Followed in '02 by a looney Laurie Strode kissing Michael Myers on the lips before falling to her death. Seriously... wtf was that? Way to toss a pivotal character in a shamefully disgusting way.
Halloween itself being made a mockery by Wes Craven's writing in "Scream." A teeniebopper calling the film "shit" to Randy. Talk about no respect to a classic. Far worse...
Or does it resemble movies like Halloween, Friday the 13th 2/4, and early 80's slashers in tone? If that's the tone, I'll probably like it. I did enjoy The Devil's Rejects as well. I also did think that The Devil's Rejects was a far better film than most of the Halloween sequels.
Goat3001
08-09-07, 10:40 PM
Just saw the trailer and I thought it looked pretty good. I enjoyed the first one Halloween and I liked the Devil's Rejects. So I think I'll give this one a shot.
Jackskeleton
08-10-07, 12:43 AM
Or does it resemble movies like Halloween, Friday the 13th 2/4, and early 80's slashers in tone? If that's the tone, I'll probably like it.
It resembles NOTHING like the tone of the original Halloween, Friday the 13th and early 80's slashers. It's really as someone described it. Halloween for the ADD crowd.
nateman
08-10-07, 10:48 AM
Well I guess I will have to develop ADD before the DVD release comes.
I can't understand why people would find the original Halloween slow or boring. Sure it's not the fastest horror movie in the history of film but it was still a pretty damn entertaining flick & still holds up well for the most part today. It's a classic no doubt. Of course the current teenagers think that The Girl Next Door, "Is like the best movie ever!".
Boy What the f**k has happened too good movies? "Back In my day...".
Kelkee
08-10-07, 12:33 PM
Nate its a lost cause. The art of making a good film is lost to this generation. Its all about business and demographics.
If a movie were made where people watched paint dry and it turned a profit, someone in Hollywood would green light it and its obligatory sequals until the franchise has been ruined or run into the ground.
This movie will probably turn a profit, how much of a profit I'm not sure.
But its certainly a marketable success! Remake the original classic "Halloween", using a "cutting-edge" director, and follow the current trend of "new-horror"! and lets make some money! Yaaaay!
-ohbfrank-
Drop
08-10-07, 12:59 PM
Nate its a lost cause. The art of making a good film is lost to this generation. Its all about business and demographics.
If a movie were made where people watched paint dry and it turned a profit, someone in Hollywood would green light it and its obligatory sequals until the franchise has been ruined or run into the ground.
This movie will probably turn a profit, how much of a profit I'm not sure.
But its certainly a marketable success! Remake the original classic "Halloween", using a "cutting-edge" director, and follow the current trend of "new-horror"! and lets make some money! Yaaaay!
-ohbfrank-
:rolleyes:
It's always been about the business and demographics, let's not try to pretend it hasn't. There have been plenty of will-be classics that have come out in the recent years.
From what people are saying from screenings it sounds like Zombie has taken a step back in his directing. I felt that The Devil's Rejects was an incredible film, that had suspense and thrills, and was not a torture-porn, it wasn't even that graphic, but it was still very brutal, and it certainly wasn't for people with ADD. I agree with Stephen King's putting it in his Top Ten that year.
Still I want to see this new Halloween, maybe I'll still like it.
Kelkee
08-10-07, 01:36 PM
:rolleyes:
It's always been about the business and demographics, let's not try to pretend it hasn't.
Not always. I believe the original 'Halloween' was born from a desire to thrill people using film. Carpenter used his talent and skill to make it what it is. Got some financial backers for the idea and made a great movie.
I have no idea what this version of the film is supposed to be. Some lucrative deal somewhere was made and here we are...again...in the mire of 'Halloween' revisits.
Fact is that subtlety is lost in filmmaking and on most audiences today. Unless you hit them over the head with over the top CGI or splatter its b o r r r r i n g. :boring:
nateman
08-11-07, 09:36 AM
Yeah, Halloween was never made for the major audience. It was done for the love of filmmaking. Something you rarely see in todays day & age. A $325,000 budget doesn't mean it's going to be a shit movie. Not everything has to cost $200 million dollars for it to be a great movie.
I heard (I think on the DVD) that Donald Pleasence only got like $15-20,000 for the first Halloween & Jamie Lee Curtis only got like $7,000 for Halloween. Most (even then) actors won't do a movie for less than $5 million.
I agree, In this day & age if it doesn't have big CGI effects & no talking then it's boring for the current generation.
Rival11
08-11-07, 02:01 PM
Because after already seeing it, it isn't halloween at all and is rather a piece of shit. So is there justification in bashing the flick if you've already seen it?
Yes, I think I saw eralier in this thread that you already saw it but did you see the completed version yet? I only ask because no too long ago I remember Zombie stating that the film was just recently completed.
But as far as traliers ago, I liked what I saw and once again, I'm not saying I'm even going to like this film just liking what I see so far (I like the Argento look in some scenes a lot and I'm not even that big fan of his).
Legolas
08-11-07, 06:24 PM
Because after already seeing it, it isn't halloween at all and is rather a piece of shit. So is there justification in bashing the flick if you've already seen it?
I think you're arguing with someone who doesn't care about any opposing POV. It sounds like he's conditioned himself to love this movie no matter what, and even though you've already seen it and made up your own mind, that doesn't count. :)
Josh-da-man
08-11-07, 07:38 PM
Going by the commercials I've seen, it still looks better than 5, 6, and 8.
Seantn
08-11-07, 07:57 PM
Oh i'm sure it's light years ahead of 5,6, and 8, even if it's terrible.
Drop
08-11-07, 08:23 PM
Not always. I believe the original 'Halloween' was born from a desire to thrill people using film. Carpenter used his talent and skill to make it what it is. Got some financial backers for the idea and made a great movie.
I have no idea what this version of the film is supposed to be. Some lucrative deal somewhere was made and here we are...again...in the mire of 'Halloween' revisits.
Fact is that subtlety is lost in filmmaking and on most audiences today. Unless you hit them over the head with over the top CGI or splatter its b o r r r r i n g. :boring:
He still wanted to have commercial success though. Every filmmaker wants that. If just so they could go and make another film with less resistance.
Independent filmmakers of today still have the same mindset.
Hollywood has always been the same, good and bad has exsisted since inception, and mankind has been trying to make a buck off anything since money has been around.
Nothing has changed, there are just new tools to abuse.
And every generation makes the same claims that this generation is foregone and worse than the last.
Rival11
08-11-07, 11:20 PM
I think you're arguing with someone who doesn't care about any opposing POV. It sounds like he's conditioned himself to love this movie no matter what, and even though you've already seen it and made up your own mind, that doesn't count. :)
Uh, no. Like I said: "I'm not saying I'm going to even like this film". I like what I've seen from both trailers so far.
FlickMan
08-11-07, 11:35 PM
Rob Zombie impressed me with House of 1000 Corpses and blew me away with Devils Rejects - He has earned my ticket money and my ass being parked in a theater seat to see his next vision - This one being Halloween!
chaz k
08-12-07, 11:55 PM
After reading this thread and watching some trailers, i decided to watch the original for the first time in a long time. Does it have some plot holes? Absolutely. Some cheesy dialouge? Yes. But IMO its fucking brillant, my all time favorite "scary" movie, and one of my favorite movies in general. It works because its "old school", it doesnt rely on lots of blood and un-needed torture. I will try my hardest to go into the "remake" with an open mind, without trying to compare to the original. I'll give Zombie some credit though, whether i love it or hate it he's got some ball's taking on this project.
Jackskeleton
08-13-07, 05:34 AM
The new film isn't scary. It's just curse word filled red neck littered and it depends a lot on blood and un-needed torture. Making Myers some pet killing crazy kid was pointless.
vcuram
08-13-07, 04:07 PM
I wish Rob would leave his skanky, whore of a wife out of his movies. She may be nice to look at, but she's a horrible actress. I had to turn Devil's Rejects off because she was so bad.
GizmoDVD
08-13-07, 04:39 PM
The new film isn't scary. It's just curse word filled red neck littered and it depends a lot on blood and un-needed torture. Making Myers some pet killing crazy kid was pointless.
I can't remember the last time a horror movie has 'scared' me. It will be a purchase FOR sure from me.
DeputyDave
08-13-07, 04:56 PM
I can't remember the last time a horror movie has 'scared' me. It will be a purchase FOR sure from me.
I hate to admit it but it was the Grudge for me. I love slashers and zombie flicks, but it's ghosts that creep me out.
Julie Walker
08-13-07, 10:57 PM
I hate to admit it but it was the Grudge for me. I love slashers and zombie flicks, but it's ghosts that creep me out.
Don't be ashamed to admit it. That movie creeped the hell out of me as well! And I'm glad it did so. Since not many movies have had that affect on me recently.
And yeah,ghosts/supernatural stuff creep me out too. Though I think there is a lack of good ghost flicks lately. But reading about ghosts/hauntings/possessions do give me the heebie jeebies all the time!
Rival11
08-14-07, 05:10 PM
Has anyone seen the completed cut yet? If so, how was it?
nateman
08-15-07, 09:25 AM
Another guy hear who is more afraid of ghosts & goblins than ugly serial killers.
tony_montana187
08-17-07, 02:42 PM
I ran a critic screening of Halloween this morning. I thought it was an entertaining movie. Not Zombie's best work, but he does a good job of making Myers out to be "scary again," which is what he has said he wanted to do. The older Myers sorta reminded me of Kane from the WWE. The pace of the movie seemed kinda hectic jumping from scene to scene. Seemed you have one scene Michael snuffing someone out in one house. Cut to next scene at a different house with someone else and suddenly there appears Myers out of the blue. I liked Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Loomis, but still doesnt hold a candle to D. Pleasance. I liked it much more than the TCM remake, but not as much as the Dawn of the Dead remake.
duluthdemon
08-18-07, 02:50 PM
Making Myers some pet killing crazy kid was pointless.
Unless you realize that makes up the profiles of many real life killers.
Rival11
08-18-07, 02:55 PM
Unless you realize that makes up the profiles of many real life killers.
Yep, very common trait among serial killers. Saw a documentery once where they linked males who killed dogs (yes, specifically and only dogs) to be the most extreme killers. Weird wild shit.
onebyone
08-18-07, 03:32 PM
Is anyone seeing a lot of ads for this? I spend a lot of time watching Chiller, SciFi, and ESPN and I have not seen too many.
Rogue588
08-18-07, 05:02 PM
Most Yankees games on YES for the past week have been "brought to you by" Halloween. There was also one on earlier during today's FOX broadcast.
nateman
08-19-07, 10:29 AM
Yep, very common trait among serial killers. Saw a documentery once where they linked males who killed dogs (yes, specifically and only dogs) to be the most extreme killers. Weird wild shit.
Oh those wacky serial killers!
SpaceBoy
08-20-07, 01:41 PM
I heard Stern talking with Rob Zombie this morning, and Stern was saying how much he loved the movie. He said the first hour is the kid < 11 years old, then it shows him like 15 years later. Rob said the movie isn't really tied to the original much at all, and there is resolution in the end of the movie, and not totally leaving it open for a sequel.
The best news to me, was Stern was saying it has Sherri in the movie topless, which is a pleasant surprise for "Baby" fans.
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