Veronica Mars -- "Happy Go Lucky" -- 05/02/06
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Veronica Mars -- "Happy Go Lucky" -- 05/02/06
"Happy Go Lucky"
Cast: Kristen Bell, Percy Daggs III, Teddy Dunn, Jason Dohring, Francis Capra, Enrico Colantoni, Tessa Thompson, Tina Majorino, Kyle Gallner, Harry Hamlin, Steve Guttenberg, Jeffery Sams , Michael Muhney, Krysten Ritter, Gil Birmingham, John Prosky, James Jordan , Brandon Hillock, Gay Storm , Michael Gaarde .
Director(s): Steve Gomer.
Producer(s): Joel Silver, Rob Thomas.
Writer(s): Diane Ruggiero.
Original Airdate: May 2, 2006.
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Cast: Kristen Bell, Percy Daggs III, Teddy Dunn, Jason Dohring, Francis Capra, Enrico Colantoni, Tessa Thompson, Tina Majorino, Kyle Gallner, Harry Hamlin, Steve Guttenberg, Jeffery Sams , Michael Muhney, Krysten Ritter, Gil Birmingham, John Prosky, James Jordan , Brandon Hillock, Gay Storm , Michael Gaarde .
Director(s): Steve Gomer.
Producer(s): Joel Silver, Rob Thomas.
Writer(s): Diane Ruggiero.
Original Airdate: May 2, 2006.
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So Aaron Echolls was able to "O.J." himself out of jail. (Saw that one coming way back when Logan erased the tapes.)
And with the shooting and a death in the lunch area, wouldn't the school cancelled class for a few days and postponed the finals for a little while? I mean, when something like that happens, don't schools usually go overboard with counseling and touchy-feely stuff so that they don't get sued for big $$$ by someone claiming that they were "traumatized" by the event?
And with the shooting and a death in the lunch area, wouldn't the school cancelled class for a few days and postponed the finals for a little while? I mean, when something like that happens, don't schools usually go overboard with counseling and touchy-feely stuff so that they don't get sued for big $$$ by someone claiming that they were "traumatized" by the event?
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Where was Wallace going in the summer? Seems like his goodbye/goodluck to Veronica spiel seemed forced.
With her blowing off the final, though, she'll end up at the local college that she toured (which I assume is the same school where the woman from jury duty offered her a scholarship?).
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I'd like to know what sort of trial features the defendant testifying first and the prosecutor's witnesses testifying last. I'd also love to see the murder trial where the witnesses were sitting in the courtroom listening to the testimony of their fellow witnesses. That was truly terrible. I'm talking as bad as Matt Murdoch giving a closing argument in a criminal trial in the role of a prosecutor even though he is an attorney in private practice bad. You don't even have to know anything about law to avoid these mistakes -- watching a couple of seasons of L&O would fix these problems. Oh, I'd also love to know where they got the idea that the judge would actually allow the question about Veronica's nasty STD. Where's the probative value there?
I do wonder if they included that to give us the idea that they somehow gave Veronica the STD artificially.
I cannot believe that they intend Harry Hamlin to be around for S3, so something big has to break next week.
One final thing about the charges. If I have it right, they charged Aaron with murder 2, assault, and statutory rape. Why didn't they charge him with abduction or attempted murder for what he did to Veronica? Those would have been open and shut charges compared to something like freaking statutory rape.
I do wonder if they included that to give us the idea that they somehow gave Veronica the STD artificially.
I cannot believe that they intend Harry Hamlin to be around for S3, so something big has to break next week.
One final thing about the charges. If I have it right, they charged Aaron with murder 2, assault, and statutory rape. Why didn't they charge him with abduction or attempted murder for what he did to Veronica? Those would have been open and shut charges compared to something like freaking statutory rape.
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One final thing about the charges. If I have it right, they charged Aaron with murder 2, assault, and statutory rape. Why didn't they charge him with abduction or attempted murder for what he did to Veronica? Those would have been open and shut charges compared to something like freaking statutory rape.
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The defense attorney said that the only witness to the Aaron/Veronica mess had said that they just merely went to his house to use his phone after having car trouble. It agreed with Aaron's story that Veronica had thrown herself at him. They said that she was attracted to the rich and famous, and used the tape as leverage to get Aaron to do her.
Is it possible that Lamb was once molested by Woody? After what we saw with Meg's family, the way he reacted was very odd, although it seemed more like violence rather than sexual abuse. From the way he acted last night talking to Keith, it didn't seem like he had a prior relationship with Woody though.
So it definitely seems like The Gute is a molester. I think that the Beav might be the missing link. With all of the storylines up in the air, I wonder what ones (aside who blew up the bus) are going to be concluded next week.
Is it possible that Lamb was once molested by Woody? After what we saw with Meg's family, the way he reacted was very odd, although it seemed more like violence rather than sexual abuse. From the way he acted last night talking to Keith, it didn't seem like he had a prior relationship with Woody though.
So it definitely seems like The Gute is a molester. I think that the Beav might be the missing link. With all of the storylines up in the air, I wonder what ones (aside who blew up the bus) are going to be concluded next week.
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Yeah, the trial scene was pretty bad. There's no way the STD question would have been allowed, and the entire structure of the scene was horrid. Oh well.
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Originally Posted by movieking
I doubt that Veronica has a STD, it was just another trial ploy.
???? Last week's episode had VM wax rhapsodic about contracting chlamydia.
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The STD will prove very important...Lamb has it, Meg, Duncan, Veronica....can they tie the STD to Woody? (Assuming all of this of course)
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I liked the no happy endings for anybody tone of the show last night, but there are things that bother me from a "real world" standpoint.
I can't believe that the Kane scholarship would be Veronica's only entre into Stanford. If she had straight A's, and was second in her class at Neptune which must be a very competitive high school, there would surely be other scholarships and financial aid available (I realize it's just a plot device to set up season 3, but still...). I also think she could have been excused from the final because of the trial and arranged for a make up the next day. I think most teachers would have understood. And I agree with dhmac, being witness to a shooting on campus would defintiely have been grounds for delaying or even excusing a final exam.
Nothing about Kendal or the Fitzgeralds last night. I wonder if the doctor who diagnosed Veronca's STD was under the thumb of the Fitgeralds. And we've heard nothing about what was on Kendal's hard drive...
I can't believe that the Kane scholarship would be Veronica's only entre into Stanford. If she had straight A's, and was second in her class at Neptune which must be a very competitive high school, there would surely be other scholarships and financial aid available (I realize it's just a plot device to set up season 3, but still...). I also think she could have been excused from the final because of the trial and arranged for a make up the next day. I think most teachers would have understood. And I agree with dhmac, being witness to a shooting on campus would defintiely have been grounds for delaying or even excusing a final exam.
Nothing about Kendal or the Fitzgeralds last night. I wonder if the doctor who diagnosed Veronca's STD was under the thumb of the Fitgeralds. And we've heard nothing about what was on Kendal's hard drive...
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Originally Posted by Patman
???? Last week's episode had VM wax rhapsodic about contracting chlamydia.
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
The STD will prove very important...Lamb has it, Meg, Duncan, Veronica....can they tie the STD to Woody? (Assuming all of this of course)
Woody -> Lucky -> Meg -> Duncan -> Veronica
I took the Lamb stuff from the episode where Veronica broke into the Manning's house to mean he was abused, not necessarily molested.
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My biggest issue with the trial was the tape. They had Logan and Veronica testify to its contents. But surely SOMEONE at the sheriff's department watched the tape. It was sitting in their evidence storage prior to Leo stealing it. I'm fairly certain that Leo watched it. Lamb and the DA had to have watched it as well. There had to be others that could testify to the contents of the tape.
It didn't ruin the show for me or anything, as I still enjoyed this episode, but it was a bit of a head scratcher.
It didn't ruin the show for me or anything, as I still enjoyed this episode, but it was a bit of a head scratcher.
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I was surprised that Celeste Kane was not at the murder trial for her own daughter. Jake is supposedly serving time for obstruction of justice or something is he not? (or did I just imagine that?)...... but it's strange that Celeste was not there.
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Great episode. I noticed some the courtroom stuff Jimmy James was talking about, but personally don't feel it took anything away from the scene. I watch VM for the dialogue, characters, and story, not for once-every-two-seasons courtroom accuracy.
I'm sure she'll figure out the Beaver connection next week for the win. Which leaves us with:
What happens to Weevil, since he was IDed by the kids?
What happens to the Fitzpatrick connection?
What happens to Kendall and her company with Beaver?
And a bunch more. It's going to be suspenseful week!
I'm sure she'll figure out the Beaver connection next week for the win. Which leaves us with:
What happens to Weevil, since he was IDed by the kids?
What happens to the Fitzpatrick connection?
What happens to Kendall and her company with Beaver?
And a bunch more. It's going to be suspenseful week!
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Yeah, there is a lot to wrap up next week.
I'm not sure if Weevil will get wrapped up, it may turn into a plotline for next season. And hell even if he does get nailed for Thumper's murder, that wouldn't exactly be unjust.
I'm not sure if Weevil will get wrapped up, it may turn into a plotline for next season. And hell even if he does get nailed for Thumper's murder, that wouldn't exactly be unjust.
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Woody as the mastermind has to be a red-herring, I'm not convinced they would give this up this early. Molestor, sure, but not the big bad.
Here is my theory, spoilerized to avoid any potential complaining:
Here is my theory, spoilerized to avoid any potential complaining:
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Originally Posted by movieking
The defense attorney said that the only witness to the Aaron/Veronica mess had said that they just merely went to his house to use his phone after having car trouble. It agreed with Aaron's story that Veronica had thrown herself at him. They said that she was attracted to the rich and famous, and used the tape as leverage to get Aaron to do her.
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Originally Posted by dvd182
Great episode. I noticed some the courtroom stuff Jimmy James was talking about, but personally don't feel it took anything away from the scene. I watch VM for the dialogue, characters, and story, not for once-every-two-seasons courtroom accuracy.
I do think it was dumb not to get it right when it's so easy to get it right. I don't think anything was gained in terms of increasing the drama, either. A good trial that you don't have to sit through voir dire, jury instructions, or deliberations for is actually pretty much the best natural drama you could ask for.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy James
I watch for the same reasons, and I'm hardly saying that I hate this season or even this episode because they got it so wrong. I just want to be clear about that. I love this show.
I do think it was dumb not to get it right when it's so easy to get it right. I don't think anything was gained in terms of increasing the drama, either. A good trial that you don't have to sit through voir dire, jury instructions, or deliberations for is actually pretty much the best natural drama you could ask for.
I do think it was dumb not to get it right when it's so easy to get it right. I don't think anything was gained in terms of increasing the drama, either. A good trial that you don't have to sit through voir dire, jury instructions, or deliberations for is actually pretty much the best natural drama you could ask for.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy James
Where's the admissible evidence to cut against Veronica's story there? Why isn't Keith a witness to it?
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Originally Posted by wmansir
Aaron's story was that Keith saw them on the porch, became enraged and attacked him, thus explaining the physical evidence of fistacuffs.