Walt Disney Treasure Wave 6

[Cameron]

Credit to Steven Wesley at HTF.
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UltimateDisney.com reports the following via forum member Bill Cotter (author of The Wonderful World of Disney Television: A Complete History). From UD's homepage:

February 21, 2006 - Last Friday, we passed along information that the first season of "The Mickey Mouse Club" serial The Hardy Boys was expected to be making its way to DVD in this year's wave of Walt Disney Treasures. We've now gotten confirmation of this, as well as new information on the three other Treasures sets that are due, from a forum post made by someone involved in their production. The post hints that follow-up sets Silly Symphonies, Volume 2 and The Complete Pluto, Volume 2 are definitely in place, while the fourth set, tentatively titled Your Host, Walt Disney is currently in the process of having anthology episodes selected which prominently feature Walt himself beyond the introduction.

[DVD Josh]

Thanks for the info Cam. I'm not a big fan of the non-animation WDTs but I'll probably get Your Host from this set.

[FantasticVSDoom]

Thanks for the info Cam. I'm not a big fan of the non-animation WDTs but I'll probably get Your Host from this set.
Exactly...And the Silly Symphonies and Essnetial Pluto Vol. 2 will be must buys for me. Good news!!

[tanman]

Disappointed there is no Chip n Dale set yet. Where is the love for the chipmunks!


Now if I could only get my hands on the first Silly Symphony set...

[wordtoyamotha]

Disappointed there is no Chip n Dale set yet. Where is the love for the chipmunks!

Ditto

[dx23]

while the fourth set, tentatively titled Your Host, Walt Disney is currently in the process of having anthology episodes selected which prominently feature Walt himself beyond the introduction.

I wonder if this Walt Disney DVD will have their recently acquired Oswald, the Lucky Rabbit shorts, that were part of the deal with Universal on the Al Michaels' contract trade.

[Subgeniusguy]

I had kinda hoped to see Song of the South make its way into the Treasures series.

[Franchot]

What the hell happened to "The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh"? It was announced a long time ago and then withdrawn.

[Michael Corvin]

Disappointed there is no Chip n Dale set yet. Where is the love for the chipmunks!


I remember someone else mentioning that there probably not enough shorts with them in it to warrant their own release.

I wonder if this Walt Disney DVD will have their recently acquired Oswald, the Lucky Rabbit shorts, that were part of the deal with Universal on the Al Michaels' contract trade.

Probably next year. They probably need mroe time to sort through everything and get it in order for a quality release.

[Super Leviathan]

I remember someone else mentioning that there probably not enough shorts with them in it to warrant their own release.

There are about 20-something cartoons with Chip 'n' Dale with them, but all but three of them would be included on the last two Chronological Donald Sets or the last Pluto set

[eau]

Exactly...And the Silly Symphonies and Essnetial Pluto Vol. 2 will be must buys for me. Good news!!
Ditto.

[grem458]

Looks like I'll be getting 3 out of the 4 again on this one. What happened to the True Life Adventures set that was supposed to come out? They even have a tentative listing for it on DVDAficionado.

[Big Worms]

Exactly...And the Silly Symphonies and Essnetial Pluto Vol. 2 will be must buys for me. Good news!!
Same here.

[Cameron]

I think the Oswald shorts will show in a rarities set. Even though Disney acquired all of the cartoons and properties for the charachter, less than twenty survive (in various conditions) that were actually produced by Walt himself. Some of the so called missing cartoons are known to be in the hands of private collections, but even those are from 16mm dupes, and no telling what condition they are in.

[TomOpus]

Now if I could only get my hands on the first Silly Symphony set...Yeah, I snoozed on release but finally got my hands on a nice set back in June '04. I found it in the Exchange Forum, so I kept it in the DVDTalk family.

[Jon2]

I really wish Disney would release things in sequence, instead of skipping a year to release Vol 2 of some set. Their current method of releasing Treasures really yanks big time.

Particularly since the Elfego Boca/Swamp Fox set left you hanging with both characters, but more so with the Fox. I had been really looking forward watching the Swamp Fox. I'm more than a bit ticked that I won't be able to see the end of the Fox saga until probably the end of 2007.

I dislike continued stories and would have preferred a release like they did with Davey Crockett, over this dual series combination set. I suspect this set was made as a marketing ploy to insure that anyone buying it for just one character would also get the followup set. Disney didn't see fit to pull this nonsense with the Mickey, Donald, Pluto, etc., etc., Treasures. What marketing guru thought this was a good idea?

I sincerely hope Disney doesn't do this sort of thing again, but I'm not hopeful.

I also doubt we'll see SOTS, or similar theatrical releases, as a Treasure. Davey Crockett was an exception (like Swamp Fox and some others) because Disney made it not just as a theatrical release, but also with eventual TV presentation in mind. Sort of made-for-TV movies that debuted in theaters. SOTS, like Darby O'Gill and most major Disney theatrical releases, doesn't fit.

Also, all the Treasures have episodic or serial type content, along with some Leonard Maltin commentary/just a bit of behind-the-scenes stuff. For the most part, Treasures don't really have much on them outside of the actual content they're being released for. They aren't typical DVDs of theatrical presentations with substantial extras. Again, Davey Crockett being an exception.

[jmj713]

Well The Reluctant Dragon and Victory Through Air Power were all theatrical feature films, I think.

[LorenzoL]

Good news indeed. :up:

[RichardW]

Silly Symphonies 2 and Pluto 2 for me.

[Disney Lover]

Will definitly get Silly Symphonies! Pluto is a possibility.

Like someone else said I'm still trying to find the first Silly Symphonies.


Tabbi <3

[Rogue588]

I was hoping for more theme park stuff... :(

[ignition]

Amen to that, the only treasure I currently own is the Tommorrowland one.

[DeeKay]

I'm getting double sets of all four. I always have an extra set on hand. Someone in my family is always forgetting to buy them, they go OOP, then they come whinning to me.....

[Cameron]

From HTF

According to ultimatedisney.com http://www.ultimatedisney.com/treasures.html

- Silly Symphonies Vol. 2

- Complete Pluto Vol. 2

- Your Host, Walt Disney

Expected to include complete episodes of Walt Disney's anthology series which prominently feature Walt not just in the introduction, but as host. Exact episodes to be determined. Walt's anthology, initially called "Disneyland" (and later "Walt Disney Presents", "The Wonderful World of Color", "The Wonderful World of Disney", "The Disney Sunday Movie", simply "Walt Disney", and "The Magical World of Disney"), debuted in 1954 and consistently aired through 1990.

- The Mickey Mouse Club featuring The Hardy Boys: The Applegate Mystery

The Hardy Boys, a pair of teenaged brothers with a flair for detective work, were well-known with readers before they were tapped as a serial subject for "The Mickey Mouse Club", Walt's daily variety series, in its second season (1956-57). This DVD will contain the first serial, titled "The Mystery of the Applegate Treasure", which was made up of 20 installments running about 10 minutes each. Disney regulars Tim Considine ("Spin & Marty", The Shaggy Dog) and Tommy Kirk (Old Yeller, The Shaggy Dog) portrayed Frank and Joe Hardy, respectively. The siblings returned for a second serial, "The Mystery of Ghost Farm", composed of 15 episodes that aired during the 1957-58 season. Considine and Kirk recently sat for interviews with Treasures host Leonard Maltin and Hardy Boys fans were contacted for additional bonus features.

[Cameron]

also a book on the way

Walt Disney Treasures : Disney Comics (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=005468)

[Cameron]

Also a book on the way (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=005468)

[Wick]

That book looks really nice and I wouldn't mind getting it. I have about half of the Treasures sets that are currently out, and I'm hoping to eventually obtain them all. I will definitely be buying all of the Wave 6 releases.

[Giles]

sans Wave 3 all the releases have been timed on or just after my birthday :D

[Shagrath]

Definately looking forward to these, as I do every year. I hopped on board when Wave 3 came out, and tracked down all the Wave 1 & 2's before they got really out of hand.

The only one I had to pay more than retail for was the MMILC Vol. 1, which was already hard to find. I think I paid about $60 on ebay for it.

I'm not sure if I'll get the book as our library is pretty full. I'll definately take a look at it, and if the cost and design are right, I'll pick it up anyways, especially if it's limited edition, as I'm a sucker for those.

[Cameron]

looking like 12.06.06

[Novasonic]

A lot of good news :)

[Canadian Bacon]

both Volume 2s are mien the other I can pass on.

[jmj713]

Has this year's wave been officially announced? What good news?

[garmonbozia]

looking like 12.06.06

that's a Wednesday. do you mean 12/5?

[Cameron]

i did...hit the 06 twice

[FantasticVSDoom]

Depending on the price, that book looks interesting...As usual, end of the year looking more and more expensive.

[Dave C]

Depending on the price, that book looks interesting...As usual, end of the year looking more and more expensive.
Couldn't be much cheaper. It's in stock at Amazon for $10:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1888472375/ref=pd_rvi_gw_2/102-6894591-4049761?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155

Musta been a tough week for a Sox fan in NY...

[LorenzoL]

Ultimatedisney.com is indicating that Wave 6 will be released on 12/19/06.
Fear not, Treasures fans! Wave 6 is coming this December, only two weeks later than expected. The complete official titles have just been announced and they confirm what has long been expected. Arriving December 19th: The Complete Pluto: Volume 2, 1947-1951, More Silly Symphonies: Volume 2, 1929-1938, Your Host Walt Disney: TV Memories, 1956-1965, and The Hardy Boys: The Mickey Mouse Club, 1956-1957. As usual, each 2-disc set will be individually numbered, available in limited quantities, and contain introductions by Leonard Maltin and an exclusive lithograph.
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[Cameron]

AWESOME. Week before Xmas at that....might get out of paying for these myself this year

[The Valeyard]

Hopefully these will be mastered better than the last batch.

[Cameron]

Hopefully these will be mastered better than the last batch.

yah, that whole things was just bad. Hopefully now that Roy is back, we'll some quality control.

[DeeKay]

Not sure I'm getting these. I have ALL the waves, all the way back to the first ones. I have yet to even open them. I'm thinking of selling them on Ebay.

For some reason, I just haven't gotten around to seeing them. So I just might skip the buying frenzy this time around.

[Mabuse]

With the release of Silly Symphonies 2 mean that all of the Silly Symphonies are available on DVD?

[jmj713]

With the release of Silly Symphonies 2 mean that all of the Silly Symphonies are available on DVD?

Indeed. A lot of the shorts on Volume Two have never been released on any kind of video anywhere. Lots of rarities.

[milo bloom]

You know, someday down the road I might regret it, but for now I've only been buying the animated treasures (except for the space one). It makes it a bit easier for relatives buying Christmas gifts too if I only have two of them on my wishlist.

[Feathers McGraw]

Yeah, you'll probably regret it. :)

I find the non-animated ones have generally been my favourites. And I'm a big animation fan.

[Vandelay_Inds]

Will the security strips use glue from hell like the previous wave? :hairpull:

[Mabuse]

Will the security strips use glue from hell like the previous wave? :hairpull:
No shit! I'm glad I wasn't the only one. Each tin required 30 minutes of soaking and scrubing with Goo B Gone to rid it of the glue.

Is there a complete list of the titles that will be on the set?

[DVD Josh]

They are up for preorder at Amazon for the typical $23.09 a piece. Got all except the Hardy Boys.

I wonder if this might be the last Wave of these. With TLE coming out in another format, I don't know if there's anything left to release that hasn't been already. I'd love to be shown wrong, these are fantastic releases. I'm just worried we may get more "themed" releases (like Front Lines), which are simply retreads of previously released material.

[jmj713]

Well there's still enough Donald shorts left over for about two more volumes, for starters. More rarities. Just more. These won't be the last by a longshot.

[Giles]

They are up for preorder at Amazon for the typical $23.09 a piece.



thanks for the head's up, done... pre-ordered! (now off to find those two 25 dollar certificates to apply this order to)

[jmj713]

Pre-ordered them the moment they first appeared for $22.99 so I saved a whole dime! Woohoo! They were taken down temporarily for some reason, and reappeared with the new price. Weird.

[Cameron]

bump for discussion. How is the video quality? etc.

[Mabuse]

These come out tomorrow. My copies from Amazon have already shipped.

....a review might be nice. What's the deal?

[The Valeyard]

Ultimate Disney has a review for Your Host, Walt Disney:

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/yourhostwaltdisney.html.

[souvenir]

I can't help but be disappointed by how these releases have slowly gone downhill in the packaging department. I had hoped that last year's sticky card and absence of the band that goes around the tin would be corrected, but apparently not judging from that review.

I also can't agree with the decision to repeat the Tenth Anniversary show on the "Your Host, Walt Disney" set . A cartoon here and there is bad enough, but a full half hour show repeated is a little ridiculous.

[Vandelay_Inds]

I heard they're producing these in unusually low numbers. Maybe with the steady drop in quality not many people are buying them anymore. Nonetheless, should I just get them while I can? Was going to wait until February, but don't want to miss out either...

[The Valeyard]

I heard they're producing these in unusually low numbers. Maybe with the steady drop in quality not many people are buying them anymore. Nonetheless, should I just get them while I can? Was going to wait until February, but don't want to miss out either...


This Wave is REALLY low. Only 65,000 produced (for each title).

[Al_Tahoe]

This Wave is REALLY low. Only 65,000 produced (for each title).Were the other waves mostly 125K and 150K?


Maybe with the steady drop in quality not many people are buying them anymore.That's certainly been true for me.

[The Valeyard]

Were the other waves mostly 125K and 150K?

Roughly....


Wave 1:

Mickey Mouse in Living Color: Volume 1 - 150,000
Silly Symphonies - 150,000
Disneyland USA - 150,000
Davy Crockett: The Complete Televised Series - 150,000


Wave 2:

Mickey Mouse in Black and White: Volume 1 - 125,000
The Complete Goofy - 125,000
Behind the Scenes at the Walt Disney Studio - 125,000

Wave 3:

Mickey Mouse in Living Color: Volume 2 - 175,000
The Chronological Donald: Volume 1 - 165,000
On the Front Lines - 250,000
Tomorrowland - 105,000

Wave 4:

Mickey Mouse in Black & White: Volume 2 - 175,000
The Complete Pluto: Volume 1 - 110,000
The Mickey Mouse Club: Week One - 130,000

Wave 5:

The Chronological Donald: Volume 2 - 125,000
Disney Rarities - 125,000
The Adventures of Spin & Marty - 125,000
Elfego Baca and The Swamp Fox: Legendary Heroes - 125,000



Looks like they started to backpedal around Wave 4. Things seem to go downhill around then (and soon afterwards). No more Obi Strips. Limited Edition numbers no longer punched on the tin. Tins seem to be made of lighter material. No more restoration done to the shorts. Non-anamorphic transfers for widescreen presentations. Duplicate programs on discs.

Apparently, Leonard Maltin has been contracted for two more waves. After that, there's murmurs that the Treasures may be phased out (in favor of the new Legacy Collections which have already taken the Disney birthday slot).

[JamesDFarrow]

I sure hope we at least get Chronological Donald V.3 & V.4.

James

[wahlers]

I'm hoping for the last 2 Donalds also.

I would also like the other 2 seasons of Spin & Marty and the 2nd season of The Hardy Boys.

There's also almost enough shorts for another volume of Disney Rarities and a volume of the Jiminy Cricket "I'm No Fool" and "Know Your..." series.

They might even be able to put together an Educational Shorts one with "Donald Duck in Mathmagic Land", "Scrooge McDuck and Money", and others...

I just hope they stop because they run out of stuff and not because they give up.

[Class316]

I also can't agree with the decision to repeat the Tenth Anniversary show on the "Your Host, Walt Disney" set . A cartoon here and there is bad enough, but a full half hour show repeated is a little ridiculous.

That could have been a good thing – IF they didn’t include the censored version from wave 1! It is sickening how they cheapened out. They should have either put something entirely new OR put the uncensored version!!

[The Valeyard]

The Tenth Anniversary show is EXACTLY THE SAME as the Wave 1 version!!!!!

ARGH!

[Mabuse]

The Silly Symphonies disc contains commentaries from animators and animation historians on select cartoons. I found this out from going to Best Buy and reading the back of the DVD package. I did this because there are NO FUCKING REVIEWS FOR THIS TITLE

what gives?

[Quack]

Picked up Silly Symphonies today....I'll wait until after the holidays to get the rest.

[TropicalRobot]

I hope before they phase them out we get a thorough set covering WDW and Epcot.

[Mabuse]

I hope before they phase them out we get a thorough set covering WDW and Epcot.
Since these sets are drawn from the archives of Disney short films and the "Disneyland" television show, I doubt we'll see anything about either Disneyworld or Epcot

[Cameron]

i was looking at these at best buy today with the other tins...oddly enough they had copies Donald Volume 1 & 2, spin & Marty, Mickey Mouse in Black & White: Volume 2, and The Swamp Fox. Mickey volume 2 and donald volume 1 really suprised me....not sure how these are still on the shelf, as I had not seen them in that aisle before (at least not since the original release).

Side note. Best buy has them for 24.99 and you can preorder cinderella 3 or peter pan for 5.00 bucks off each. The preorders can be returned after release date if you decide you don't want Cinderella 3 or peter pan, thus getting you the tins for 19.99 out the door each with 5.00 each to come back and pick up later....

oddly enough you have to order 4 copies, insted of putting all twenty towards one disc....you just have to return them for cash later....

[bmello]

This Wave is REALLY low. Only 65,000 produced (for each title).

Local Best Buy had between 1 and 5 copies of each of these. They had twice and many copies of last years Wave.

[Feathers McGraw]

I bought all four, just to make sure I could find copies. Was only 1 left of each on the shelf.

Echo comments above, some reviews of the other three would be nice. Haven't opened mine, just in case.

[The Valeyard]

Local Best Buy had between 1 and 5 copies of each of these. They had twice and many copies of last years Wave.


Probably why the numbers for this year's batch have been cut in half.

[pagansoul]

I only buy what I would watch which means, SillyS V1 and 2, World at War and DavyC. I've been looking for Micky (B&W) but can't find it.

[Vandelay_Inds]

For the people that have their copies already, do these sets have the glue-from-hell problem from last wave? I remember spending hours cleaning that shit up last time. :hairpull:

[Michael Corvin]

For the people that have their copies already, do these sets have the glue-from-hell problem from last wave? I remember spending hours cleaning that shit up last time. :hairpull:

I just opened one of those sets the other day and thought it was like that because it had sat so long. Man what a pain in the ass.

[Class316]

For the people that have their copies already, do these sets have the glue-from-hell problem from last wave? I remember spending hours cleaning that shit up last time. :hairpull:

I don't have mine but I heard they do.

[jmj713]

Glue is good, meaning easy to peel the back sheet (which I store inside the tin on the bottom) and remove the glue drops. No problem.

[RoboDad]

No problems with mine either. The sheets were easy to remove from the tin, and the glue came right off.

[Mabuse]

The security labels and the card on the back came right off for me. Not like last time. Last time I spent 30 minutes per case scrubbing with Goo-Gone to get that sticky stuff off.

[Michael Corvin]

I was referring to the security stickers. Those left a hell of a mess. I had no problem with the cardboard.

[Class316]

from http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=289462#289462

Look what Maltin said:

Hi... thanks for all your kind words. I cannot tell you how frustrated--or heartbroken--I am that the Tiki Room footage is cut from the Tenth Anniversary Show. I was promised an uncut version, and that's one reason I felt it was worth including again. I also felt that this was a crucial show in any salute to Walt, and I've heard from a number of people who were upset that the original Disneyland USA DVD set has gone out of print.

But the best laid plans, as they say...

I don't know the future of the Treasures series right now. I wish the folks at Disney were as devoted to keeping their heritage alive as their fans.
all the best, Leonard Maltin

[RoboDad]

I was referring to the security stickers. Those left a hell of a mess. I had no problem with the cardboard.
I see. I didn't know about that problem. The security stickers on the new releases came right off for me, and they left no residue at all. All four of the tins are completely clean.

[Todd B.]

I see. I didn't know about that problem. The security stickers on the new releases came right off for me, and they left no residue at all. All four of the tins are completely clean.
Ditto

[LorenzoL]

I bought all 4 DVDs at Wal-Mart but I also seen them at Costco with the exception of the Hardy Boys DVD.

[Cameron]

a couple of guys at HTF are complaining about crooked framing on the new SIlly Symphonies disc. Anybody have screen grabs to show what they mean. I have yet to pick these disc up.

[Mabuse]

They are windowboxed, but I haven't watched one that I would call crooked.

[Brooklyn]

One of the cartoons (I forget which) on disc 1 has a scene where a tree abruptly stops
prior to the top of the screen (they only drew the section of it that would appear in the
frame). Perhaps this was what they were referring to?

[Cameron]

a breakdown and another minor problem...

from http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=289462#289462

Look what Maltin said:


By the way, for those curious about what was edited from the Tiki Room segment on Your Host, Walt Disney, I put the following together back when the Disneyland USA set arrived. I have not adjusted the tracking numbers to match up with the rerelease, but you'll get the idea...

EDITED FOR DVD - When the DVD version of the 10th Anniversary Show is compared to previous broadcast airings, it appears that the Enchanted Tiki Room sequence has been shortened. The original sequence ran a total of 10:46, but the DVD version clocks in at only 4:51, meaning that 5:55 has been removed. The removals include many complete songs from the show.

BROADCAST VERSION
1. Introduction by Walt - 0:53
2. Behind the Scenes Tour by Jose - 1:50
3. Introduction/Dialogue - 0:55
4. "The Tiki Tiki Tiki Room" - 0:38
5. Enchanted Fountain/"Let's All Sing Like the Birdies Sing" - 2:40
6. "Aloha to You" - 1:30
7. "Hawaiian War Chant" - 1:50
8. Dialogue/Finale - 0:30
TOTAL SEGMENT TIME: 10:46

DVD VERSION
1. Introduction by Walt - 0:53 (00:35:40 - 00:36:33)
2. Behind the Scenes Tour by Jose - 1:50 (00:36:34 - 00:38:24)
3. Introduction/Dialogue - 0:55 (00:38:25 - 00:39:20)
4. "The Tiki Tiki Tiki Room" - 0:38 (00:39:21 - 00:39:59)
5. Storm/Enchanted Fountain/Finale - 0:35 (00:40:00 - 00:40:35)
TOTAL SEGMENT TIME: 4:51



Unfortunately there are two further issues which have annoyed me above the More Silly Symphonies DVD.

First of all 'The Night Before Christmas' is unfortunately edited. The Amos n Andy mammy part has been snipped out.

Also when you watch the bonus feature when they discuss 'Goddess of Spring' the picture that appears is glorious restored! So a restored print of this short exists! So why provide an older duller grainier one as the actual cartoon?

[Cameron]

from ultimate disney


In an effort to present the classic cartoons contained on MORE SILLY SYMPHONIES as originally intended, Walt Disney Studio recently recreated the original title cards that were to appear at the start of each film. Due to a production error, these restored cards were inadvertently not included on this new DVD collection. We sincerely apologize for this mistake, and are currently working to rectify the issue. Please check back for an update as to when the replacement discs will be ready. We anticipate them sometime in early March.
If you have purchased MORE SILLY SYMPHONIES and would like to have them replaced with the corrected DVDs, call 1-800-723-4763 (U.S.)/1-888-877-2843 (Canada). Please note, you will receive replacement discs, not replacement packaging. Please hold on to your current packaging.
Again, we apologize for the error and any inconvenience it may have caused. Ultimately, we hope you will enjoy these classic Walt Disney Treasures.