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chess
02-14-06, 11:04 AM
Am I the only one that's bored with the hype...tired of prettier versions of the the same tired games? I'm looking at you Resident Evil with your antiquated controls.

I can't think of a single compelling reason to buy a next generation system since I haven't seen anything revolutionary since GTA, Metroid Prime, or Halo...and they probably weren't that revolutionary...just natural progressions from the PSX/N64 days.

My answer: GO RETRO

Instead of a 360, get an NES and a library of games for $100. I defy you to put Metroid, Mario, Contra, or Blaster Master down.

Buy an SNES and a library of timeless classics for a quarter the price of a PS3...same with a Genesis. It turns out football was a lot of fun to play on consoles before you needed 3 hands to do it. Go figure.

Buy an Atari 2600 and play some Demon Attack, Asteroids, or River Raid. One button baby! If you are 30 or older, there should be a serious nostalgia factor.

Some people think the N-64 is "perfect"...I don't know about that...but there are 5-6 games on that thing that absolutely have to played...and you can get one with all those games for a third the price of a 360. Should keep you busy for about a year.

No need to get a PS1, since your PS2 plays all the games...but you probably missed some brilliant games.

Maybe the Revolution will take care of a lot of the above with downloadable content...but that probably will only cover first and second party games.

I've picked up many of the classic consoles in the past few years and haven't thought about my PS2 or GC since...aside from a little stint of Metroid Prime. I recommend giving it a try and letting the "Next Gen" sort itself out.

T1000
02-14-06, 11:14 AM
Totally agree.

Look at Perfect Dark & Bad Fur Day. Both excellent titles, but because Rare is with Microsoft, we're getting both of those now.

XBox 360 really doesn't interest me at all. I can't find one game I'd actually buy for it.

Hell, I still have my N64 (Classic), SNES and Megadrive that I still play regulary.

I got rid of my XBox last month because I only had it for one game. PES5. Orginially brought it for Halo and Fable, both of which are very overrated.

I don't actually think I've said anything related to what you said.. :/

gimmepilotwings
02-14-06, 11:20 AM
Maybe the Revolution will take care of a lot of the above with downloadable content...but that probably will only cover first and second party games.


Since the "bread and butter" of Nintendo are its 1st and 2nd party games..what exactly will you be missing?

PixyJunket
02-14-06, 11:21 AM
http://pixyjunket.aorange.com/userpics/random/apt2.jpg

Gallant Pig
02-14-06, 11:22 AM
Why not both? I play the 360 an hour a night, but always have room for retro gaming. Each provides a nice break from the other.

Why this one or the other crap?

PixyJunket
02-14-06, 11:24 AM
Why not both? I play the 360 an hour a night, but always have room for retro gaming. Each provides a nice break from the other.I agree.. though I'm more retro/current-gen. Will need a year or two to jump into the next for me.

gimmepilotwings
02-14-06, 11:29 AM
I agree.. though I'm more retro/current-gen. Will need a year or two to jump into the next for me.

Not me. I will need 4-8 months until the Revolution comes out.

It takes care of both the new and retro gens at the same time.

joeblow69
02-14-06, 11:38 AM
Instead of a 360, get an NES and a library of games for $100. I defy you to put Metroid, Mario, Contra, or Blaster Master down.

Ooooh :mad: I remember Blaster Master. Rented it, loved it, but was never able to win due to it's limited number of continues. Curse you Blaster Master! :mad2:

sracer
02-14-06, 11:44 AM
Why not both? I play the 360 an hour a night, but always have room for retro gaming. Each provides a nice break from the other.

Why this one or the other crap?
hehe... I was wondering the same thing. I have been contemplating pulling out my Genesis/32x/CD combo to supplement my 360 gaming.

chess
02-14-06, 12:43 PM
http://pixyjunket.aorange.com/userpics/random/apt2.jpg

That is impressive.

chess
02-14-06, 12:45 PM
Since the "bread and butter" of Nintendo are its 1st and 2nd party games..what exactly will you be missing?

I could put together an impressive list of third party NES/SNES titles, I think...especially NES.

Josh H
02-14-06, 12:46 PM
I'm getting the revolution as I figure most of the old games I loved will be available and it saves the hassle of tracking down the carts, cleaning them, replacing dead batteries, etc.

I'm sure there will be a lot of third party games from companies like Capcom, Konami etc. availabe (especially given that genesis games look likely).

I mean it's a way to make cash with little to not development cost.

chess
02-14-06, 12:50 PM
Why not both? I play the 360 an hour a night, but always have room for retro gaming. Each provides a nice break from the other.

Why this one or the other crap?

To each his own...I just think it's early to be worrying about which "next gen" system to buy...especially when the "next gen" looks suspiciously like "this gen".

I also think that games...at least most of them...have gotten way too complicated for casual players to enjoy. I had more fun playing Bonk last night than I've had on any current gen game aside from Metroid Prime or GTA.

Or maybe I'm just in a retro phase, and I'll tap into the next gen when the hype and the prices subside a bit.

chess
02-14-06, 12:51 PM
I'm getting the revolution as I figure most of the old games I loved will be available and it saves the hassle of tracking down the carts, cleaning them, replacing dead batteries, etc.

I'm sure there will be a lot of third party games from companies like Capcom, Konami etc. availabe (especially given that genesis games look likely).

I mean it's a way to make cash with little to not development cost.

Revolution is a given for me...mostly because I've become a whore for Nintendo's franchises (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kart, Smash, etc.)

maxfisher
02-14-06, 12:53 PM
I actually went retro at the beginning of the current gen, as I was a fresh college grad who couldn't find a job at the time. Picked up a NES, SuperNES and N64 on the cheap, along with something like 40 or 50 games and that was about all I played for 2 years, until I could afford to get into the PS2 and Gamecube. This next generation is the first one where I'm making enough money to be able to jump on at the start, so I'm kind of enjoying the hype, even if it is a little overblown.

Josh H
02-14-06, 01:59 PM
Why not both? I play the 360 an hour a night, but always have room for retro gaming. Each provides a nice break from the other.

Why this one or the other crap?


Cost is one reason. $400 is way more than I'd ever pay for a console, so if all new consoles were about my $200 threshold I'd just go retro until big price drops a few years down the road.

kakihara1
02-14-06, 02:49 PM
I still love old games and I love my 360 and the games I have for it, I don't think it's hype if you actually have fun playing the games the system offers if you don't like them don't play them if you do then get a 360 or revolution/ps3 when it comes out (which I will).


Old, New; it's all good stuff. :)

Michael Corvin
02-14-06, 02:55 PM
I still love old games and I love my 360 and the games I have for it, I don't think it's hype if you actually have fun playing the games the system offers if you don't like them don't play them if you do then get a 360 or revolution/ps3 when it comes out (which I will).


Old, New; it's all good stuff. :)

Precisely. Condemned wasn't hyped at all and right now it sits atop of my Best of 360 list so far. It was fun & I loved it. Hype means nothing.

chess
02-14-06, 03:27 PM
No doubt...and I don't mean to dispariage anyone's preference. I just have 3 issues:

1. The games aren't getting any better...just *slightly* prettier and *much* more complicated

2. The price. For some irrational reason, I paid full price at launch for a PS1, but I will never...not ever...do that again. Especially at $400+. It's not that I can't afford it, I just refuse to do it.

3. Games in general (with the exception of Nintendo) are going in a direction that doesn't fit with my tastes. Aside from Metroids and Zeldas, my favorite recent games have been games like Viewtiful Joe and Ikaruga...which are nothing if not old school.

Gallant Pig
02-14-06, 03:40 PM
I'm a gamer who keeps games for a few months and then ebays them or if they are really good I'll hold onto them. My game stash from last gen allowed me to own a 360 this gen because I liquidated it on Ebay for a nice amount of cash. I still have a SNES, DC, GBA, and my MAME arcade machine. To me the 360 brings something amazing and you wouldn't suspect: I no longer get dizzy from playing it in HD. I also love Tony Hawk after skipping the last few iterations, and COD is fantastic. Probably the coolest thing I do with my 360 is stream audio and especially photos onto my tv from my other systems. This is a huge time saver and I used it just last Saturday to show some friends some vacation photos.

Retro gaming is great, but that doesn't mean the new generation sucks. To me the HD factor causing 3D games to be much more playable is huge.

Josh H
02-14-06, 05:11 PM
1. The games aren't getting any better...just *slightly* prettier and *much* more complicated

2. The price. For some irrational reason, I paid full price at launch for a PS1, but I will never...not ever...do that again. Especially at $400+. It's not that I can't afford it, I just refuse to do it.

3. Games in general (with the exception of Nintendo) are going in a direction that doesn't fit with my tastes. Aside from Metroids and Zeldas, my favorite recent games have been games like Viewtiful Joe and Ikaruga...which are nothing if not old school.

That's pretty much spot on for me. A lot of games are just too complicated for me, especially with my busy ph d student schedule. And I just grew up on simple NES and SNES games and prefer that.

I also can afford a $400 console, but I"m just not willing to pay it. Games have dropped a few rungs down my hobby ladder as in, and factor in my busy life and its just a stupid move for me to spend that much on a console.

And as you say, games are getting away from what I like. I've mainly enjoyed Nintendo first party games (not even all of them, the metroid system is getting away from me, which is a shame as Super Metroid is my all time fave) and classic game ports this generation.

Joe Molotov
02-14-06, 06:36 PM
No doubt...and I don't mean to dispariage anyone's preference. I just have 3 issues:

1. The games aren't getting any better...just *slightly* prettier and *much* more complicated

I can't really agree with that one. Personally, I think videogames never been better. There's something to be said for the simple goodness of retro games, I appreciate the classics as much as the next guy, but I don't think they stand up to what's being offered today. It's more than just slightly better graphics, games have higher production values, more polish, and more variety. Of course, that in itself doesn't mean that the games are better. Even a polished game can be boring and uninspired (Rare provides us with some nice examples of that in Donkey Kong 64 and Star Fox Adventures).

Still I think that there is a larger number of good games now than there was in the "good old days", a smaller number of complete turds. It seems to me that a "bad" game today is one that's just mediocre and/or derivative. There doesn't seem to be as many toe-curlingly bad games like there were back then. Or maybe I'm just better informed now, and I manage to miss all of them.

Also, I just think there's more kinds of games now than there was then. Either games that wasn't possible then because of hardware limitations, or just games that no one had thought of. You've still got alot of the old-style games on the GBA and DS mostly, but now we've also got FPS, RTS, and a lot more RPGs than we ever got from Japan before. And just look at rythym-based games like Guitar Hero or DDR, and then Nintendo takes it one step farther and makes rythym-based platform game. Seeing that kind of experimentation (and also titles like Katamari Damacy, Odama, Chibi-Robo, and especially what we're seeing on the DS) being met with open arms in the gaming community and achieving some degree of commercial sucess makes me hopefully for the future of gaming.

Outlaw
02-14-06, 07:23 PM
No doubt...and I don't mean to dispariage anyone's preference. I just have 3 issues:

1. The games aren't getting any better...just *slightly* prettier and *much* more complicated

2. The price. For some irrational reason, I paid full price at launch for a PS1, but I will never...not ever...do that again. Especially at $400+. It's not that I can't afford it, I just refuse to do it.

3. Games in general (with the exception of Nintendo) are going in a direction that doesn't fit with my tastes. Aside from Metroids and Zeldas, my favorite recent games have been games like Viewtiful Joe and Ikaruga...which are nothing if not old school.

Yeah some good points and I agree. My backlog of games in the current gen is so big (PS2, GC, DS, GBA) that there is enough to keep me busy until the next-gen systems come out. Still need to pick up Fire Emblem damnit! The price on new systems (except the Revolution) is ridiculous and only early adopters are going to get it right now, as there is very little in terms of games and you have to pay for a $700 bundle if you want it, currently the 360 seems like a waste to me seeing that the current gen is still alive and kicking. Plus I haven't really seen anything that looks next generation or different enough from the current gen to me yet, so I'll be waiting in the meantime.

The Bus
02-14-06, 07:57 PM
I can't think of a single compelling reason to buy a next generation system since I haven't seen anything revolutionary since GTA, Metroid Prime, or Halo...

Katamari Damacy.

Ralph Wiggum
02-14-06, 07:57 PM
There's something to be said for the simple goodness of retro games, I appreciate the classics as much as the next guy, but I don't think they stand up to what's being offered today.

I'd say it's a matter of personal preference more than anything. I couldn't tell a fan of platformers that games are better now than they were ten years ago any more than I could tell a diehard FPS fan that there's likely much of interest to him from the 80's.

As far as the collective quality of games: How many genres can we say have fundamentally evolved for the better in the last ten or twenty years from a design (read: not just technological) standpoint? I'm still pushing crates around in God of War, searching for crap to open a rickety-ass door in RE4 because my rocket launcher apparently isn't powerful enough, level-grinding with random encounters in DQVIII, running through endless corridors in Doom III, driving indestructible cars in Gran Turismo 4, and using money plays in Madden 2006.

If you want to get into technology: My carts are going to last a a lot longer than my discs, and nobody's house was ever burned down by their NES power supply. I also don't remember having issues with bad cameras or framerates until 1996, but now it's a damn miracle when I play a 3D game that is free of either problem. Personally, I'll take slowdown over not being able to see the action any day of the week.

Gaming is full of just as many plusses and minuses now as it ever was, which is why I wouldn't give up either new games or old games. Some kinds of games aren't ever going to appear again or be done as well; likewise, I can't wait to see what's next.

The Bus
02-14-06, 07:58 PM
The price on new systems (except the Revolution)

No one besides Microsoft has pricing information on their next systems.

Outlaw
02-14-06, 09:25 PM
No one besides Microsoft has pricing information on their next systems.

That might be true, but most people are saying that the PS3 will be close to the price to the 360 (if not more which were the rumors earlier this year). Nintendo has always said they will try to be more affordable like what they did with the Gamecube and DS being less expensive.

Josh H
02-14-06, 10:32 PM
Yeah, no official prices, but it's all but set in stone that the PS3 will be at least as much as the 360 and the Revolution will probably be $200 and at most $250.

Puzznic
02-14-06, 10:49 PM
I agree with the OP to a point but I really like playing console games online, and that not something i can get going retro.

I also have to strongly disagree with the jab at Resident Evil 4 in the first sentence. The game is a classic and it controls great.

kakihara1
02-15-06, 06:43 AM
Yeah, no official prices, but it's all but set in stone that the PS3 will be at least as much as the 360 and the Revolution will probably be $200 and at most $250.

That being the case it's a good move by Nintendo, I know that I'll probably spend the $200-250 on a revolution first then buy a PS3 when they become more readily available a few months after launch. if they came in at the same pricepoint I would probably be preordering a PS3.

Edit* if these systems come out virtually simultaneously, it makes me think that Nintendo may be just as much in the running as the other consoles this time around. Last time Nintendo came out with an unproven MS console, this time it's coming out with the Big Dog and at a much more attractive price.

boredsilly
02-16-06, 08:26 AM
No doubt...and I don't mean to dispariage anyone's preference. I just have 3 issues:

1. The games aren't getting any better...just *slightly* prettier and *much* more complicated


While I do like current gen games fine and the price doesn't bother me so much, this point hits home for me. There is something to be said for mastering complicated controls, but I like a game whose challenge lies in the actual game (not in if I can pull of crazy button combos). Also it's not that I can't master games, it's just that I have no desire to anymore. I just wan to play. Some console games today are just TOO much for me and try my patience quickly. If I want a complicated game I'll go PC and RTS or a console turn based game so that I can take my time to work it out. Hate it or love it, thats one good thing about the first Halo 1. The controls were intuitive and easy to pick up. That's also why I have so much love for Nintendo games. They are all of them almost too simple to play - but easy to play, tough to master.

PixyJunket
02-16-06, 08:51 AM
I agree about control and game complexity as well. I'd also like to point out as well that it's not a matter of it being too difficult, but just unnecessary. I think games that exude in polished simplicity are the best. My favorite two RPGs of this generation, Paper Mario 2 and Dragon Quest VIII are prime examples of this. No matching armor to grids or aligning weapons to lunar cycles or crap like that.. just old fashioned gaming with new fashioned graphics and music.

Michael Corvin
02-16-06, 09:55 AM
Hate it or love it, thats one good thing about the first Halo 1. The controls were intuitive and easy to pick up.

Just like to point out here that the controls in Halo were nothing new to anyone who played the first Turok 5 years prior.

chess
02-16-06, 10:47 AM
I agree about control and game complexity as well. I'd also like to point out as well that it's not a matter of it being too difficult, but just unnecessary. I think games that exude in polished simplicity are the best. My favorite two RPGs of this generation, Paper Mario 2 and Dragon Quest VIII are prime examples of this. No matching armor to grids or aligning weapons to lunar cycles or crap like that.. just old fashioned gaming with new fashioned graphics and music.

Pix, you and I apparently have very similar tastes. I never met a Metroid or Zelda I didn't love, and I was going to post a Compile appreciation thread, and did a search beforehand. Threads started by you were all over the search results.

I'm on an NES kick the past couple of weeks, and games like Gun*Nac, Guardian Legend and Zanac are occupying my time more than anything else. Twin Bee 1 + 2 (not Compile, but still good) are kind of cool too just for sheer wierdness. I think Compile really perfected their style with Space Megaforce.

two buttons...reflexes...strategy...artful presentation...fun...period.

If you have any more japanese top-down shooter recommendations, I'm all ears.

kakihara1
02-16-06, 10:49 AM
Just like to point out here that the controls in Halo were nothing new to anyone who played the first Turok 5 years prior.

100% correct, virtually Identical if I recall.

chess
02-16-06, 10:50 AM
While I do like current gen games fine and the price doesn't bother me so much, this point hits home for me. There is something to be said for mastering complicated controls, but I like a game whose challenge lies in the actual game (not in if I can pull of crazy button combos). Also it's not that I can't master games, it's just that I have no desire to anymore. I just wan to play. Some console games today are just TOO much for me and try my patience quickly. If I want a complicated game I'll go PC and RTS or a console turn based game so that I can take my time to work it out. Hate it or love it, thats one good thing about the first Halo 1. The controls were intuitive and easy to pick up. That's also why I have so much love for Nintendo games. They are all of them almost too simple to play - but easy to play, tough to master.

Glad somebody else is like me. I never read manuals for games before starting them up, and if it takes me more than a few minutes to do what I need to do in a fluid way, I just lose interest.

Along with Halo, I think Metroid Prime really nailed the complicated yet intuitive thing. You use every button on the controller, but only in ways that feel natural and not constantly...for the most part it's just jump and shoot. A button...B button.

PixyJunket
02-16-06, 11:09 AM
If you have any more japanese top-down shooter recommendations, I'm all ears.Screw Space Megaforce, if you can play imports on your PS1 you NEED to play Zanac Neo (aka Zanac x Zanac), Compile's swan song before they closed their doors. If you can play PS2 imports look into Cave games for some of the best manic shooting these days, Espgaluda is my personal favorite but Mushi Hime-Sama and the new DoDonPachi are great too.. and they've got a new one, Ibara, coming out at the end of this month.

Apparently, some of Complie's member reformed to a company called Milestone. They released a shooter on GameCube called Chaos Field but I didn't really enjoy it that much. Their next effort comes out this week for the Dreamcast in Japan called Rajirugi, a cel-shaded shooter. My friend is getting it so I'll be able to see if it's any better than Chaos Field.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-x-49-en-70-14o0.html

chess
02-16-06, 12:08 PM
Screw Space Megaforce, if you can play imports on your PS1 you NEED to play Zanac Neo (aka Zanac x Zanac), Compile's swan song before they closed their doors. If you can play PS2 imports look into Cave games for some of the best manic shooting these days, Espgaluda is my personal favorite but Mushi Hime-Sama and the new DoDonPachi are great too.. and they've got a new one, Ibara, coming out at the end of this month.

Apparently, some of Complie's member reformed to a company called Milestone. They released a shooter on GameCube called Chaos Field but I didn't really enjoy it that much. Their next effort comes out this week for the Dreamcast in Japan called Rajirugi, a cel-shaded shooter. My friend is getting it so I'll be able to see if it's any better than Chaos Field.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-x-49-en-70-14o0.html

unfortunately, i don't currently have the capability of playing PS imports, but NES/SNES I can do. I saw your thread on Chaos Field and was kind of wondering what the follow up was...guess it never grew on you...too bad. I may check it out anyway if I can get it cheap.

The only current gen shooter I own (other than GBA) is Ikaruga, which is awesome, but wicked hard...at least for me. I had a really hard time getting used to the analog stick. You're probably a lot more skilled than me though...which might be why I find Space Megaforce to be just about the perfect shooter where you might not find it challenging enough. I actually paid $30 for a boxed copy of it...the most I've paid for a game in a long long time. Definitely top ten for me.

I own just about every shooter on the SNES, and I must've checked out 20 NES shooters in the past month or two...found some real pleasant surprises...and some real turds.

Edit to add: Thanks for the recommendations!!!

chess
02-16-06, 04:08 PM
just saw and did some reading on the Revolution's controller...

:jawdrop:

I think I might be on a bandwagon after all.

Tarantino
02-16-06, 05:22 PM
I recently pulled out my N64 for some gaming. I also play my XBox all the time. I won't be picking up the XBox 360 or any other new systems for that matter until developers realize that no matter how pretty a game is, if the gameplay sucks, the game sucks. I tried Madden 360 at work and it's worthless compared to my XBox version. Oh well.

= J

boredsilly
02-16-06, 07:26 PM
I recently pulled out my N64 for some gaming. I also play my XBox all the time. I won't be picking up the XBox 360 or any other new systems for that matter until developers realize that no matter how pretty a game is, if the gameplay sucks, the game sucks. I tried Madden 360 at work and it's worthless compared to my XBox version. Oh well.

= J


See that's just the thing though, I really don't think that will ever happen. Developers are so damn worried about games being the new "motion pictures" that graphics are going to rule all. Historically whenever the power presented itself game makers have strived to produce better graphics - it just seems to be more important now than ever before, what with the industry trying to be taken "seriously". Sure some developers realize the importance of gameplay above all else (the guy, I think, behind Ratchet & Clank is always talking about this very thing), but I think we're in for a load more of Doom 3s - games with lots of flash and not so much substance.

That isn't to say I'm against cinematic games (or beautiful ones) - Riddick, Beyond Good and Evil, and RE4 show how this can be done well, but I just like some actual game in my games. It's almost like the studio's have too much new stuff to focus on these days. Back in the 8-16 bit era a game probably had one composer and maybe a few guys on sound fx and now they use entire orchestras, hollywood voice actors, folley artists, etc...and thats just sound. I'm just rambling now and sound like that old dude on the porch talking about the good old days so hows about I shut up now.

Josh H
02-16-06, 07:32 PM
See that's just the thing though, I really don't think that will ever happen. Developers are so damn worried about games being the new "motion pictures" that graphics are going to rule all.

Except for Nintendo. They've already said the Revolution will be well below the PS3 and 360 in graphical capabilities.

I think that console will be the last hope for us old school gamers that haven't been happy with the direction mainstream gaming has went in recent years.

boredsilly
02-16-06, 08:55 PM
Except for Nintendo. They've already said the Revolution will be well below the PS3 and 360 in graphical capabilities.

I think that console will be the last hope for us old school gamers that haven't been happy with the direction mainstream gaming has went in recent years.

But do you think for a second that the games won't be able to stand up against what the 360 and ps3 are offering for the systems life span? Graphically I'm sure the system will more than hold it's own (like the GC is and the N64 did). I think we won't even notice even if it is "well below" because some of the bells in whistles that get thrown into console don't even get utilized to their potential. 'Tis why we still have X-Box (the most powerful console of this gen) games that look like ass.

I agree with you 100% though that the Rev might be old school gamers (hollow) bastion of goodness (along with the DS , GBA, and X-Box live).

Blitz6Speed
02-16-06, 09:16 PM
Except for Nintendo. They've already said the Revolution will be well below the PS3 and 360 in graphical capabilities.

I think that console will be the last hope for us old school gamers that haven't been happy with the direction mainstream gaming has went in recent years.

I'm patiently awaiting the rev and its release myself. I will be purchasing it for sure. That said....

Nintendo hasnt satisfied people with the 64 and the GC for old school gamers, imo. On the GC, I disliked zelda, metroid became a FPS game and mario was another repetative 3d game. N64 didnt have a single title i liked. As for the rev, I truely hope it IS a revolution, but the #1 selling point of the Rev is the virtual console to me. Not the new gen of games. Of course, i hope to be truely shocked and surpised come E3 =) Bring back 2-D metroid!!!

Josh H
02-16-06, 10:03 PM
But do you think for a second that the games won't be able to stand up against what the 360 and ps3 are offering for the systems life span?

Not at all. Nintendo has said repeatedly not to expect graphics much beyond the Gamecube's level. They're not trying to match the PS3 and 360 in that area. They're trying to gain marketshare by having a cheaper consoles with an innovative way to play games and hopefully new types of games to draw in non-gamers.

boredsilly
02-16-06, 10:15 PM
Not at all. Nintendo has said repeatedly not to expect graphics much beyond the Gamecube's level. They're not trying to match the PS3 and 360 in that area. They're trying to gain marketshare by having a cheaper consoles with an innovative way to play games and hopefully new types of games to draw in non-gamers.


Huh, that's pretty interesting. I haven't been following the news so I'm not up on the Rev news, but I can certainly see it being possible. Pretty much following the DS model, except for a home console then? Either way, GC graphics are more than enough for me.

Josh H
02-16-06, 10:56 PM
Pretty much following the DS model, except for a home console then? Either way, GC graphics are more than enough for me.

Yep. More than enough for me as well.

GreenMonkey
02-16-06, 11:39 PM
I own all three current gen systems (xbox picked up January of last year).

I'm sitting out the new consoles, except the Revolution. I've got too many backlogged PS2/GC/Xbox games as it is. Along with a handful of DC games.

I find myself powering up my SNES just as often as my PS2.

No way I'm paying $400 for a new console. I've got better uses for that kind of cash (an SVS subwoofer, for example).

$400 spent on ebay could buy you waaaay more gaming goodness in oldschool games. Pick up a SNES, NES, Genesis and load up on games. Guaranteed more gaming value for the dollar. :D

chess
02-17-06, 01:41 PM
a bunch of stuff....(an SVS subwoofer, for example)....a bunch more stuff

Now, here is a man with priorities. :clap:

GreenMonkey
02-17-06, 10:10 PM
Now, here is a man with priorities. :clap:

The price on SVS subwoofers won't drop nearly as much in 2 years as the newgen consoles will drop :D