http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/feature/29062/2081418
Raw's Road to Wrestlemania begins tonight with first round of a tournament to decide the #1 contender
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/2089702
Candice will be on The Tonight Show tonight
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/2089794
And over on Smackdown, The Orton/Mysterio match at the 2/19 PPV puts Mysterio's WM22 match on the line
Sonny Corinthos
02-06-06, 11:48 AM
It's a crying shame that Rey will get cheated of going after the World Title at WM 22 after his Royal Rumble victory.
fujishig
02-06-06, 12:03 PM
Not to mention, this will effectively kill the meaning of the Royal Rumble... has the Wrestlemania spot ever been taken away like this before?
Lunatikk
02-06-06, 12:15 PM
Not to mention, this will effectively kill the meaning of the Royal Rumble... has the Wrestlemania spot ever been taken away like this before?
Well there was the whole debacle in 1997, Austin won the rumble but didn't get a title shot at WM. It went to the Undertaker, since they had to have Austin and Hart wrestle at WM because of HBK.
BravesMG
02-06-06, 12:40 PM
I'm confused, is the winner of this tournament getting his shot at Wrestlemania? Or will the winner just get a title shot on RAW this month?
raven56706
02-06-06, 12:45 PM
it says road to wrestlemania tournament...
Lunatikk
02-06-06, 12:45 PM
I'm confused, is the winner of this tournament getting his shot at Wrestlemania? Or will the winner just get a title shot on RAW this month?
I'm not sure when HHH will get his title shot.
Nesbit
02-06-06, 12:48 PM
Vince McMahon won in 1999 but lost his title shot to Austin at the February PPV.
GuessWho
02-06-06, 01:13 PM
I think Edge is still the #1 contender.
Thanks to Lita's chairshot, Edge holds a new victory over the champ.... and beating the champ usually leads to a title shot.
BravesMG
02-06-06, 01:37 PM
It says Road to Wrestlemania, but I don't think it specifies that the winner gets a shot at Wrestlemania. Everything from here to Wrestlemania is the Road to Wrestlemania. Since there's no RAW PPV before WM, I would think this is a good way to get a mini-PPV RAW title match before WM. I think it would be weird for somebody to jump Edge after his win, and without him being a part of the tournament.
Lunatikk
02-06-06, 02:07 PM
is Saturday Night's Main Event starting before or after WM?
raven56706
02-06-06, 02:20 PM
I hope rey rey still gets his shot.....
Nesbit
02-06-06, 02:29 PM
is Saturday Night's Main Event starting before or after WM?
Before in late March.
Lunatikk
02-06-06, 02:39 PM
anyone hear anything about this?
The WWE is soon to promote Orlando Jordan as a bisexual character, expressing interest in both male and female wrestlers as part of his persona. Involved with this storyline will be former TNA Knockout Trinity.
raven56706
02-06-06, 02:45 PM
Poor OJ..... he sucks and now he will know it
fujishig
02-06-06, 03:54 PM
I think he brought the idea up to McMahon. Though he was already buried on the roster, so I guess he'd take any gimmick at this oint.
MovieExchange
02-06-06, 03:58 PM
Well there was the whole debacle in 1997, Austin won the rumble but didn't get a title shot at WM. It went to the Undertaker, since they had to have Austin and Hart wrestle at WM because of HBK.
That was the whole clusterfunk where Austin was eliminated and came back in because the refs didn't see it, right?
Lunatikk
02-06-06, 04:12 PM
That was the whole clusterfunk where Austin was eliminated and came back in because the refs didn't see it, right?
yep that was it. they had a 4-way over the top match in the feb. ppv, with bret winning the title for a day, then jobbing it to sid.
Rogue588
02-06-06, 08:09 PM
It would really suck if Rey didn't get his title shot.
Hell, i'm even strangely upset that Edge got squashed so soon. Perhaps it has more to do with Cena getting it back and the eventual HHH show's return.
GuessWho
02-06-06, 09:20 PM
Because of the dog show...
...next week's Raw is on next THURSDAY
MovieExchange
02-06-06, 10:08 PM
I missed the first hour (24 wins out over bad WWE booking), did they explain the trainwreck that ended last week's show?
sureAV421
02-06-06, 10:08 PM
since edge won by dq, he's getting a title shot next week.
MovieExchange
02-06-06, 10:17 PM
since edge won by dq, he's getting a title shot next week.
That's what I figured they were shooting for.
Too bad I didn't miss the weekly shitfest of McMahon vs. Michaels.
dadaluholla
02-06-06, 10:27 PM
They have to keep Edge title free to face Mick Foley at Wrestlemania.
I think Shelton's mom just died. Thank you.
MovieExchange
02-06-06, 10:50 PM
Aaand RVD gets the honor of jobbing to Triple H in the finals of the tournament.
csim
02-07-06, 12:00 AM
Maybe they would get gusty and have it be Edge vs. RVD in WM. I would love too see that. I love how they mention when Edge had the belt, they had the best ratings they had in 4 years. Maybe they will pay attention to that. Plus the internet pool where over half the people wanted RVD to go for the belt in WM. Can Vince be that dumb.
GuessWho
02-07-06, 12:04 AM
Gutsy is one thing. Buyrates & mass appeal for their #1 mainstream PPV is another.
MovieExchange
02-07-06, 12:22 AM
Maybe they would get gusty and have it be Edge vs. RVD in WM. I would love too see that. I love how they mention when Edge had the belt, they had the best ratings they had in 4 years. Maybe they will pay attention to that. Plus the internet pool where over half the people wanted RVD to go for the belt in WM. Can Vince be that dumb.
We're talking about the man that could have made a shit-ton of money in the WCW/ECW "invasion" angle, but instead pissed it all away just to prove a point that apparently everyone else had already realized - that he had won the "wrestling wars."
We're talking about the man that took Paul Heyman off of booking duties, despite the fact that the ratings went up while Paul was booking. Not to mention he refuses to remove his daughter as head writer, despite the fact that many have traced the beginning of the WWE's downturn to when she took over.
So yes... Vince can be that dumb.
dadaluholla
02-07-06, 08:26 AM
So Mick Foley refs the match and Cena wins. Edge gets upset and attacks Foley, challenging him at wrestlemania. I can't see that being very good. Unless it's just a bunch of falling through tables and jumping off ladders and hitting each other with chairs. I might watch that.
:)
Trips over Show, RVD over Masters, Trips over RVD, cue the net fans screaming once again about how RVD will never get anywhere in the WWE as long as Trips is around.
Of course it's a pretty accurate assessment.
dadaluholla
02-07-06, 09:17 AM
So anyone else thing Carlito will come out during the Masters/RVD match and accidentally cost Masters the match?
If RVD doesn't win though...or at least get put into a triple threat situation, I don't know what else he would do at WM.
Dean Kousoulas
02-07-06, 12:23 PM
It seems everybody went in their time machine to March so they can see HHH fight Cena and Orton battle The Undertaker. Nowadays people bitch about matches that aren't even real yet!
Enough already about the HHH holding back BS. Hasn't he jobbed enough for you last year to prove that he's not invisible?
Lunatikk
02-07-06, 12:42 PM
Hasn't he jobbed enough for you last year to prove that he's not invisible?
No.
csim
02-07-06, 12:55 PM
And you thought last year when Lesner v. Goldburg was so bad. Didn't Vince learn his leason. You got to give people allittle of what they want. And if Cena is a face, they don't want Cena a face. The onlything i could see then is him turning at WestleMania. That is the only thing left they could do to save it.
MovieExchange
02-07-06, 01:04 PM
It seems everybody went in their time machine to March so they can see HHH fight Cena and Orton battle The Undertaker. Nowadays people bitch about matches that aren't even real yet!
Enough already about the HHH holding back BS. Hasn't he jobbed enough for you last year to prove that he's not invisible?
Sorry to tell you this, but ignoring history doesn't mean that it didn't happen. The people that you're so upset with are basing their assumptions off of what has happened before.
And I'm going to assume you meant "invincible," not "invisible." And you're wrong. As long as he is married to the boss' daughter, who is the head writer, he is invincible. When Vince decides to retire, it's Trips and Stephie that will take over the business.
And you thought last year when Lesner v. Goldburg was so bad. Didn't Vince learn his leason.
Brock vs. Goldberg being bad wasn't Vince's fault. It was a good big-man match on paper, but in the end both Lesnar and Goldberg demonstrated how unprofessional they were and decided to sleepwalk through their match.
Rogue588
02-07-06, 01:09 PM
No.:lol::up:
So...there's a one year limit on jobbing? Someone let Val Venis and Steven Richards know this. I think they're about due...
Cinemaddiction
02-07-06, 01:19 PM
:lol::up:
So...there's a one year limit on jobbing? Someone let Val Venis and Steven Richards know this. I think they're about due...
..don't forget The Good..er..God..uhh..Kama..hmm..Papa Sh...The Boogeyman..whatever he is this week.
Bell65
02-07-06, 02:33 PM
why the hell does every think just because Raw is having a title tournament for their belt, that Rey isnt going to beat orton and keep his title shot at wrestlemania?
additionally, while its obvious HHH will get the title shot, who knows...maybe they need someone like RVD to to wrestle cena and make him seem like he has talent...al i know is im tired of faces winning at wrestlemania and the challenger always winning the belt!
as for RVD's WM situation...just have someone run in, cost him the match, and then thats ur wrestlemania matchup...
also keep in mind WM is a bit down the road, lots of tiem for innerpromotional shit and other stuff to go down!
GuessWho
02-07-06, 02:42 PM
I think that events now set up for Saturday Night's Main Event and everything after that lead to Wrestlemania itself.
Nesbit
02-07-06, 03:00 PM
The title should be changed to OJ starts sucking...
Lunatikk
02-07-06, 03:01 PM
why the hell does every think just because Raw is having a title tournament for their belt, that Rey isnt going to beat orton and keep his title shot at wrestlemania?
those 2 events are not connected at all.
dadaluholla
02-07-06, 04:06 PM
If they were going to choose a Peter Gabriel song as the theme for WM, shouldn't they have picked SLEDGEHAMMER? It would have made more sense...at least to HHH.
;)
GuessWho
02-07-06, 04:13 PM
those 2 events are not connected at all.I think the point he was trying to make is that Rey can challenge for Raw's belt if he wants to.
GuessWho
02-07-06, 04:14 PM
Will Saturday Night's Main event have any Smackdown representation?
NBC owns USA so that's great cross-promotion. Would NBC want to feature UPN characters on its show?
GuessWho
02-07-06, 09:53 PM
Anybody who wears this in public needs to seriously reevaluate their lives
No, I didn’t know Eddie as well as some. And, as I mentioned earlier, I’m not an expert on what Eddie would have wanted. But, I have to believe that what Eddie would have wanted — and what we gave him last Friday on SmackDown — are two very different things.
I do not believe that Eddie’s wife appreciated the “Eddie’s in Hell” declaration. She just lost her husband. Mourning his loss is difficult enough.
I do not believe that Randy Orton needs this type of cheap heat to be effective. No one knows better than I that Randy is an incredible talent. He can wrestle, he can talk, and he exudes an extreme brand of cockiness in the ring that makes him a natural bad guy. He doesn’t need this.
I’m not against having Eddie’s memory as an enduring legacy of SmackDown. I was touched by Batista’s recent heartfelt words, and I don’t doubt for a moment that Rey Mysterio feels genuinely motivated by his late mentor’s spirit. And as I’ve told Chavo on a few different occasions, I considered the frog splash a tribute to Eddie on the night of his death to be one WWE’s truly great moments.
But the recent SmackDown episode did not honor his legacy, it exploited his death. I hope it will end, and the sooner the better. For by exploiting his death we achieve what I thought wouldn’t be possible: We cheapen his life.
Rogue588
02-08-06, 07:39 PM
:up:
This Foley guy should write some books..
Rypro 525
02-08-06, 10:33 PM
http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_16022.shtml
a link from a former wcw anouncer who says basically Styles sucks and that he shouldn't be hosting raw.
I personally think Ross was overrated and said the same things "my god, it seems like a car reck."
MovieExchange
02-08-06, 11:20 PM
http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_16022.shtml
a link from a former wcw anouncer who says basically Styles sucks and that he shouldn't be hosting raw.
I personally think Ross was overrated and said the same things "my god, it seems like a car reck."
Eh... Styles isn't fitting in well. He was OK with his style in ECW (although maybe nostalgia makes people forget that he was very repetitve there... OH MY GOD!!!!!!!), but Vince is trying to make him change over to the "WWE Style," better known as the "shitty announcer" style.
To say Ross was overrated, though, shows ignorance of history. He might not be the announcer he used to be, but he's probably the #2 play by play man in wrestling history (Gordon Solie being #1, of course). If anything, I'd blame his decline on the same thing that is making Styles so bad in that position - Vince McMahon wanting everything done the "WWE style."
Rypro 525
02-08-06, 11:36 PM
Eh... Styles isn't fitting in well. He was OK with his style in ECW (although maybe nostalgia makes people forget that he was very repetitve there... OH MY GOD!!!!!!!), but Vince is trying to make him change over to the "WWE Style," better known as the "shitty announcer" style.
To say Ross was overrated, though, shows ignorance of history. He might not be the announcer he used to be, but he's probably the #2 play by play man in wrestling history (Gordon Solie being #1, of course). If anything, I'd blame his decline on the same thing that is making Styles so bad in that position - Vince McMahon wanting everything done the "WWE style."
I always thought Monsoon was a better announcer but i grew up with wwf, and not nwa (is that what Solie was on?)
Nesbit
02-08-06, 11:39 PM
I think Solie was a better play by play man but Gorilla had better banter with his color men.
Al Padrino
02-09-06, 01:09 AM
I think Solie was a better play by play man but Gorilla had better banter with his color men.
Helps that he had two of the best color men in the business to work with. I loved the Gorilla, but he could be sorta bland when he was working with folks like Alfred Hayes.
To say Ross was overrated, though, shows ignorance of history
But he is. The guy hasn't been any good for almost 10 years. His reputation's build almost entirely on his great work early in his career. He couldn't help what happened to him, but he was a shell of his former self long before he got knocked out of the booth.
Helps that he had two of the best color men in the business to work with. I loved the Gorilla, but he could be sorta bland when he was working with folks like Alfred Hayes.
True but I still think he got more out of Hayes than Ross or Solie would have.
GuessWho
02-09-06, 09:56 AM
Jim Ross-isms:
By God!!!
That son. Of. A. Bitch.
Hell, fire, and brimstone... it's Kane!
That coming from a man wearing a crown.
Stone Cold! Stone Cold! Stone Cold! Stone Cold!
We're gonna have a slobberknocker
My Fave Gorilla-isms
He knocked him into the middle of next week
(and Gorilla's uncanny ability to make up muscles)
There's some damage right there on the upper dorsilfiliangius!
ViewAskewbian
02-09-06, 10:53 AM
Finally got around to watching the Bret Hart DVD last night and, while we are on the topic of announcers, I never realized how annoying Vince was. Sometimes his commentary was so loud and abrassive you had no idea what he was saying.
And if we are tossing out names of good commentators I'd like to throw Bobby The Brain in. Always funny and the perfect heal commentator.
My favorite Brain moment came when Hogan turned on WCW and Bobby started shouting: "I TOLD YOU! I'VE TOLD YOU ALL THESE YEARS BUT YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE ME!!!"
Perfect playing on his past history with Hogan and announcing his matches.
Rockmjd23
02-09-06, 07:04 PM
Jim Ross-isms:
By God!!!
That son. Of. A. Bitch.
Hell, fire, and brimstone... it's Kane!
That coming from a man wearing a crown.
Stone Cold! Stone Cold! Stone Cold! Stone Cold!
We're gonna have a slobberknocker
My Fave Gorilla-isms
He knocked him into the middle of next week
(and Gorilla's uncanny ability to make up muscles)
There's some damage right there on the upper dorsilfiliangius!
Jim Ross any time Triple H hits someone with a sledgehammer or foreign object: "Damn him!! Damn that Triple H!! He's a bastard!"
"In my 25 years of broadcasting , I've never seen anything like this!"
Gorilla Monsoon at the start of a pay per view..."It's a capacity crowd here live in _________." (when numerous empty seats are seen)
NORML54601
02-09-06, 09:36 PM
I'm surprised there's been no mention of this yet: Matt Cappotelli, the OVW champion and former Tough Enough winner was recently diagnosed with brain cancer. Here's a recap of his speech from http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=15449
2/9/2006 2:07:00 AM
Cappotelli updates his condition at tonight's OVW tapings
by Dave Meltzer
Dave@wrestlingobserver.com
Matt Cappotelli announced in the ring at the Danny Davis Arena in Louisville that he had brain cancer in a long and highly emotional and religious speech.
The 26-year-old OVW champion gave the championship belt back to Danny Davis, saying that he can't do the title justice because he can't defend it. He said that his doctors told him, on a scale of one-to-four, four being the worst, that his cancer was a two. He said he was exploring his options but would be undergoing surgery, and likely chemotherapy. His doctors told him it was too soon to determine whether he would wrestle again. The building was in tears as Cappotelli, who stopped several times, got down and prayed in the ring, and said he would like to get in contact with anyone in pain and try and help them through it. All the wrestlers surrounded the ring as he gave his speech. All of the wrestlers got in the ring with him.
The show ended before 10 p.m. Eastern time, and Cappotelli stayed until past midnight talking to every fan who wanted to talk with him, exchanging addresses, numbers or e-mails, until he had talked with virtually every fan that attended the show.
The speech will air on the OVW TV show that airs on Saturday.
They did a regular television taping up until that point, which featured The Miz & Chris Cage winning the tag team titles from Seth Skyfire & Chet the Jet.
Video of the entire speech is up on the WWE site at: http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/cappotelliovw
GuessWho
02-09-06, 09:53 PM
wow.
DGibFen
02-09-06, 10:36 PM
Crap. Good thing he's in Louisville, thought - we've got some of the best medical centers in the country here.
Qui Gon Jim
02-10-06, 04:59 AM
Best wishes out to Cappotelli and his family.
Back to the announcers, I can't believe anyone thinks Gordon Solie was great. His commentary is extremely annoying. Urg. I'd take Michael Cole over him 10 days a week.
dadaluholla
02-10-06, 08:23 AM
Yeah thats too bad about that Matt Cappotelli guy. I'm sure I would be more sad if I had any idea who he was.
I'm sure Randy Orton will say something about him going to hell soon.
raven56706
02-10-06, 08:34 AM
that was a touching moment...... everyone should look at that as a leader and an inspiration.....
MovieExchange
02-10-06, 08:52 AM
But he is. The guy hasn't been any good for almost 10 years. His reputation's build almost entirely on his great work early in his career. He couldn't help what happened to him, but he was a shell of his former self long before he got knocked out of the booth.
You essentially repeat exactly what I said, but you claim to disagree with me?
Ross has declined, but that "great work early in his career" means that he is one of the best play by play men ever.
Yeah thats too bad about that Matt Cappotelli guy. I'm sure I would be more sad if I had any idea who he was.
He and Johnny Nitro from MNM won the last MTV Tough Enough competition. It's a damn shame this happened to him, because (IMHO) he was a better wrestler than Nitro was. He just didn't have the "WWE" personality.
GuessWho
02-10-06, 03:39 PM
The Heartthrobs -- Antonio and Romeo -- have been released by WWE
thenetstud
02-10-06, 03:58 PM
I guess their gimmick in OVW was good and they had an awesome entrance but they never could reach full potential in the WWE because in OVW they were known as The Heartbreakers and Shawn Michaels didn't want them having the same name.
fujishig
02-10-06, 04:31 PM
I don't think it was the name, it was probably being squashed each and every night that did in their credibility. Kane stomping on both of them in the span of a minute meant that they would never be a viable tag team.
Nesbit
02-10-06, 04:49 PM
No tag team can succeed on RAW when there is only one other team and that team is Kane and Big Show. As much as I love tag team wrestling it is time for them to get rid of the RAW tag titles.
fujishig
02-10-06, 05:11 PM
They basically have... I mean, the only reason I even remember there are Raw tag titles is when I'm trying to figure out why Kane and Big Show have titles when they're coming down to the ring. They don't defend them, they don't mention them, and both guys pretty much go off and do their own thing.
Rockmjd23
02-10-06, 06:33 PM
As much as I love tag team wrestling it is time for them to get rid of the RAW tag titles.
Same here, but I wish it wasn't the Raw titles that were being thrown aside, since those are the titles that have been around since 1971, whereas the Smackdown titles are like 4 years old.
Qui Gon Jim
02-10-06, 07:40 PM
Also keep in mind that on the night of the Eddie tribute, the tag titles were more or less unified by Show and Kane. The SD titles weren't on the line but they did beat MNM.
sergtv
02-12-06, 06:19 AM
Why did rey put his title shot on the line? He has nothing to gain.. What does Orton have to offer Rey, Rey has his title shot to loose and nothing to gain. I hope he wins
turborobb
02-12-06, 06:55 AM
I agree about the Tag belts, WWE has two sets of tag belts and one or two real tag teams, they should unify the tag belts, or just drop the Smackdown tag belts and have a tag team wrestling division only on Raw, which would open up more space on Smackdown to spotlight the cruiserweight division.
I really miss the days of tag team wrestling where they had real tag teams, The Islanders, Hart Foundation, Demolition, ect. Now days it's just two random single wrestlers thrown together for no real reason.
Great thing about TNA is they have a real tag team division - AMW, 3D, Canada, Diamonds, Naturals, James Gang, LAX, ect
I would go with the Raw tag belts because they are the original WWE tag belts (unifed with the original WCW tag belts) where as the belts on Smackdown are about 4 years old.
fujishig
02-13-06, 11:36 AM
I agree about the Tag belts, WWE has two sets of tag belts and one or two real tag teams, they should unify the tag belts, or just drop the Smackdown tag belts and have a tag team wrestling division only on Raw, which would open up more space on Smackdown to spotlight the cruiserweight division.
I really miss the days of tag team wrestling where they had real tag teams, The Islanders, Hart Foundation, Demolition, ect. Now days it's just two random single wrestlers thrown together for no real reason.
Great thing about TNA is they have a real tag team division - AMW, 3D, Canada, Diamonds, Naturals, James Gang, LAX, ect
I would go with the Raw tag belts because they are the original WWE tag belts (unifed with the original WCW tag belts) where as the belts on Smackdown are about 4 years old.
I would say that the great thing about TNA is the Xdivision. Otherwise, they're just as guilty of just pairing up random wrestlers. Two out of the four in the tourney were pretty random pairings of x-division stars, and team canada doesn't really seem to have a dedicated tag team. Diamonds also kinda started as random wrestlers, and are relegated to jobber status right now too. It's really AMW vs. 3D for the tag belts, and whatever fued they have between the James Gang and LAX.
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