Question RE the extras on Buffy/Angel dvds...
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Question RE the extras on Buffy/Angel dvds...
My wife and I are starting to embark on the Buffy/Angel journey and I was curious if the extras on the dvds give away future spoilers. I am watching these thru Netflix and would hate to have to go back thru all the discs to watch the extras again but I definitely do not want to spoil anything.
Any of you out there watched all the extras? Are the commentaries & interviews worth a listen and are the spolier free? Any specific extras I should watch out for?
FWIW, I started with the movie (just to be complete) and have watched the first 2 episodes of season 1 of Buffy so far. I am completely mystified that this show was even given a second life from such an awful movie. I am definitely intrigued since I have read the high praise of both shows and find it amazing that Buffy not only went on for 7 seasons but had a spin-off that ran for 5.
Firefly's quality of writing/dialogue is the initial reason I am checking this out otherwise I would have went thru life Buffy-free.
Any of you out there watched all the extras? Are the commentaries & interviews worth a listen and are the spolier free? Any specific extras I should watch out for?
FWIW, I started with the movie (just to be complete) and have watched the first 2 episodes of season 1 of Buffy so far. I am completely mystified that this show was even given a second life from such an awful movie. I am definitely intrigued since I have read the high praise of both shows and find it amazing that Buffy not only went on for 7 seasons but had a spin-off that ran for 5.
Firefly's quality of writing/dialogue is the initial reason I am checking this out otherwise I would have went thru life Buffy-free.
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The extras are the most spoilerific extras in the history of DVD extras. Stay the hell away from them until you've watched the whole series through once.
By the way, sometimes, the menus are spoilery, too, but there's not much you can do about that. Moreover, Season 1 of Buffy plays an audio clip when you start the episode, and some of those audio clips are spoilery!
By the way, sometimes, the menus are spoilery, too, but there's not much you can do about that. Moreover, Season 1 of Buffy plays an audio clip when you start the episode, and some of those audio clips are spoilery!
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Also, once you get to where the spinoff series starts, you'll want to be sure to check out a viewing order list, as the two shows tend to intertwine plotlines at a few points, and watching them out of order can sometimes result in some pretty hefty spoilers.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I will stay extras free on my journey then.
And thanks for mentioning the order list. I did a search and found a thread which listed the order to watch them in. I hope it is worth all the time. At what point should you give up if the series just isn't hitting you?
And thanks for mentioning the order list. I did a search and found a thread which listed the order to watch them in. I hope it is worth all the time. At what point should you give up if the series just isn't hitting you?
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
Thanks for the advice guys. I will stay extras free on my journey then.
And thanks for mentioning the order list. I did a search and found a thread which listed the order to watch them in. I hope it is worth all the time. At what point should you give up if the series just isn't hitting you?
And thanks for mentioning the order list. I did a search and found a thread which listed the order to watch them in. I hope it is worth all the time. At what point should you give up if the series just isn't hitting you?
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also the season 1 menus (and season 3) are confusing as in what order do you watch them in. if you have the chosen collection, just look on the back of the season pack for the order.
Also, you might want to mute the audio on season 1, especially on the episode "Angel" on disc 2. Oh, and the show doesn't really become exceptional tv until season 2. But season 1 is important, since it sets everything up.
Also, you might want to mute the audio on season 1, especially on the episode "Angel" on disc 2. Oh, and the show doesn't really become exceptional tv until season 2. But season 1 is important, since it sets everything up.
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The biggest downfall of the sets are the spoiler filled menus and extras. It was a very dumb move on their part.
And I add this to threads now and then just to help people along:
BUFFY Season 1
Buffy 1- 1 Welcome to the Hellmouth
Buffy 1- 2 The Harvest
Buffy 1- 3 Witch
Buffy 1- 4 Teacher's Pet
Buffy 1- 5 Never Kill a Boy on the First Date
Buffy 1- 6 The Pack
Buffy 1- 7 Angel
Buffy 1- 8 I Robot, You Jane
Buffy 1- 9 The Puppet Show
Buffy 1-10 Nightmares
Buffy 1-11 Out of Mind, Out of Sight
Buffy 1-12 Prophecy Girl
BUFFY Season 2
Buffy 2- 1 When She Was Bad
Buffy 2- 2 Some Assembly Required
Buffy 2- 3 School Hard
Buffy 2- 4 Inca Mummy Girl
Buffy 2- 5 Reptile Boy
Buffy 2- 6 Halloween
Buffy 2- 7 Lie to Me
Buffy 2- 8 The Dark Age
Buffy 2- 9 What's My Line? (1)
Buffy 2-10 What's My Line? (2)
Buffy 2-11 Ted
Buffy 2-12 Bad Eggs
Buffy 2-13 Surprise
Buffy 2-14 Innocence
Buffy 2-15 Phases
Buffy 2-16 Bewitched, Bothered And Bewildered
Buffy 2-17 Passion
Buffy 2-18 Killed by Death
Buffy 2-19 I Only Have Eyes for You
Buffy 2-20 Go Fish
Buffy 2-21 Becoming (1)
Buffy 2-22 Becoming (2)
BUFFY Season 3
Buffy 3- 1 Anne
Buffy 3- 2 Dead Man's Party
Buffy 3- 3 Faith, Hope and Trick
Buffy 3- 4 Beauty and the Beasts
Buffy 3- 5 Homecoming
Buffy 3- 6 Band Candy
Buffy 3- 7 Revelations
Buffy 3- 8 Lover's Walk
Buffy 3- 9 The Wish
Buffy 3-10 Amends
Buffy 3-11 Gingerbread
Buffy 3-12 Helpless
Buffy 3-13 The Zeppo
Buffy 3-14 Bad Girls
Buffy 3-15 Consequences
Buffy 3-16 Doppelgangland
Buffy 3-17 Enemies
Buffy 3-18 Earshot
Buffy 3-19 Choices
Buffy 3-20 The Prom
Buffy 3-21 Graduation Day (1)
Buffy 3-22 Graduation Day (2)
BUFFY Season 4 / ANGEL Season 1
Buffy 4- 1 The Freshman
Angel 1- 1 City Of
Buffy 4- 2 Living Conditions
Angel 1- 2 Lonely Hearts
Buffy 4- 3 The Harsh Light of Day
Angel 1- 3 In The Dark
Buffy 4- 4 Fear, Itself
Angel 1- 4 I Fall To Pieces
Buffy 4- 5 Beer Bad
Angel 1- 5 Rm W/a Vu
Buffy 4- 6 Wild at Heart
Angel 1- 6 Sense & Sensitivity
Buffy 4- 7 The Initiative
Angel 1- 7 Bachelor Party
Buffy 4- 8 Pangs
Angel 1- 8 I Will Remember You
Buffy 4- 9 Something Blue
Angel 1- 9 Hero
Buffy 4-10 Hush
Angel 1-10 Parting Gifts
Buffy 4-11 Doomed
Angel 1-11 Somnambulist
Buffy 4-12 A New Man
Angel 1-12 Expecting
Buffy 4-13 The I in Team
Angel 1-13 She
Buffy 4-14 Goodbye Iowa
Angel 1-14 I've Got You Under My Skin
Buffy 4-15 This Year's Girl
Angel 1-15 The Prodigal
Buffy 4-16 Who Are You?
Angel 1-16 The Ring
Buffy 4-17 Superstar
Angel 1-17 Eternity
Buffy 4-18 Where the Wild Things Are
Angel 1-18 Five By Five
Buffy 4-19 New Moon Rising
Angel 1-19 Sanctuary
Buffy 4-20 The Yoko Factor
Angel 1-20 War Zone
Buffy 4-21 Primeval
Angel 1-21 Blind Date
Buffy 4-22 Restless
Angel 1-22 To Shanshu In L.A.
BUFFY Season 5 / ANGEL Season 2
Buffy 5- 1 Buffy Vs. Dracula
Angel 2- 1 Judgment
Buffy 5- 2 Real Me
Angel 2- 2 Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been
Buffy 5- 3 The Replacement
Angel 2- 3 First Impressions
Buffy 5- 4 Out of My Mind
Angel 2- 4 Untouched
Buffy 5- 5 No Place Like Home
Angel 2- 5 Dear Boy
Buffy 5- 6 Family
Angel 2- 6 Guise Will Be Guise
Buffy 5- 7 Fool For Love
Angel 2- 7 Darla
Buffy 5- 8 Shadow
Angel 2- 8 The Shroud Of Rahmon
Buffy 5- 9 Listening to Fear
Angel 2- 9 The Trial
Buffy 5-10 Into the Woods
Angel 2-10 Reunion
Buffy 5-11 Triangle
Angel 2-11 Redefinition
Buffy 5-12 Checkpoint
Angel 2-12 Blood Money
Buffy 5-13 Blood Ties
Angel 2-13 Happy Anniversary
Buffy 5-14 Crush
Angel 2-14 The Thin Dead Line
Buffy 5-15 I Was Made to Love You
Angel 2-15 Reprise
Buffy 5-16 The Body
Angel 2-16 Epiphany
Buffy 5-17 Forever
Angel 2-17 Disharmony
Buffy 5-18 Intervention
Angel 2-18 Dead End
Buffy 5-19 Tough Love
Angel 2-19 Belonging
Buffy 5-20 Spiral
Angel 2-20 Over The Rainbow
Buffy 5-21 The Weight of the World
Angel 2-21 Through The Looking Glass
Buffy 5-22 The Gift
Angel 2-22 There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb
BUFFY Season 6 / ANGEL Season 3
Angel 3- 1 Heartthrob
Angel 3- 2 That Vision Thing
Buffy 6- 1 Bargaining (1)
Buffy 6- 2 Bargaining (2)
Angel 3- 3 That Old Gang Of Mine
Buffy 6- 3 After Life
Angel 3- 4 Carpe Noctem
Buffy 6- 4 Flooded
Angel 3- 5 Fredless
Buffy 6- 5 Life Serial
Angel 3- 6 Billy
Buffy 6- 6 All the Way
Angel 3- 7 Offspring
Buffy 6- 7 Once More, with Feeling
Angel 3- 8 Quickening
Buffy 6- 8 Tabula Rasa
Angel 3- 9 Lullaby
Buffy 6- 9 Smashed
Buffy 6-10 Wrecked
Angel 3-10 Dad
Buffy 6-11 Gone
Angel 3-11 Birthday
Angel 3-12 Provider
Buffy 6-12 Doublemeat Palace
Angel 3-13 Waiting In The Wings
Buffy 6-13 Dead Things
Buffy 6-14 Older and Far Away
Angel 3-14 Couplet
Angel 3-15 Loyalty
Buffy 6-15 As You Were
Angel 3-16 Sleep Tight
Buffy 6-16 Hell's Bells
Buffy 6-17 Normal Again
Angel 3-17 Forgiving
Angel 3-18 Double Or Nothing
Angel 3-19 The Price
Buffy 6-18 Entropy
Angel 3-20 A New World
Buffy 6-19 Seeing Red
Angel 3-21 Benediction
Buffy 6-20 Villains
Angel 3-22 Tomorrow
Buffy 6-21 Two to Go
Buffy 6-22 Grave
BUFFY Season 7 / ANGEL Season 4
Buffy 7- 1 Lessons
Buffy 7- 2 Beneath You
Angel 4- 1 Deep Down
Buffy 7- 3 Same Time, Same Place
Angel 4- 2 Ground State
Buffy 7- 4 Help
Angel 4- 3 The House Always Wins
Buffy 7- 5 Selfless
Angel 4- 4 Slouching Toward Bethlehem
Angel 4- 5 Supersymmetry
Buffy 7- 6 Him
Angel 4- 6 Spin The Bottle
Buffy 7- 7 Conversations with Dead People
Angel 4- 7 Apocalypse, Nowish
Buffy 7- 8 Sleeper
Buffy 7- 9 Never Leave Me
Buffy 7-10 Bring on the Night
Buffy 7-11 Showtime
Angel 4- 8 Habeas Corpses
Buffy 7-12 Potential
Angel 4- 9 Long Day's Journey
Angel 4-10 Awakening
Buffy 7-13 The Killer in Me
Angel 4-11 Soulless
Buffy 7-14 First Date
Angel 4-12 Calvary
Buffy 7-15 Get It Done
Buffy 7-16 Storyteller
Angel 4-13 Salvage
Angel 4-14 Release
Buffy 7-17 Lies My Parents Told Me
Angel 4-15 Orpheus
Angel 4-16 Players
Angel 4-17 Inside Out
Angel 4-18 Shiny Happy People
Buffy 7-18 Dirty Girls
Angel 4-19 The Magic Bullet
Angel 4-20 Sacrifice
Buffy 7-19 Empty Places
Angel 4-21 Peace Out
Buffy 7-20 Touched
Angel 4-22 Home
Buffy 7-21 End of Days
Buffy 7-22 Chosen
ANGEL Season 5
And I add this to threads now and then just to help people along:
BUFFY Season 1
Buffy 1- 1 Welcome to the Hellmouth
Buffy 1- 2 The Harvest
Buffy 1- 3 Witch
Buffy 1- 4 Teacher's Pet
Buffy 1- 5 Never Kill a Boy on the First Date
Buffy 1- 6 The Pack
Buffy 1- 7 Angel
Buffy 1- 8 I Robot, You Jane
Buffy 1- 9 The Puppet Show
Buffy 1-10 Nightmares
Buffy 1-11 Out of Mind, Out of Sight
Buffy 1-12 Prophecy Girl
BUFFY Season 2
Buffy 2- 1 When She Was Bad
Buffy 2- 2 Some Assembly Required
Buffy 2- 3 School Hard
Buffy 2- 4 Inca Mummy Girl
Buffy 2- 5 Reptile Boy
Buffy 2- 6 Halloween
Buffy 2- 7 Lie to Me
Buffy 2- 8 The Dark Age
Buffy 2- 9 What's My Line? (1)
Buffy 2-10 What's My Line? (2)
Buffy 2-11 Ted
Buffy 2-12 Bad Eggs
Buffy 2-13 Surprise
Buffy 2-14 Innocence
Buffy 2-15 Phases
Buffy 2-16 Bewitched, Bothered And Bewildered
Buffy 2-17 Passion
Buffy 2-18 Killed by Death
Buffy 2-19 I Only Have Eyes for You
Buffy 2-20 Go Fish
Buffy 2-21 Becoming (1)
Buffy 2-22 Becoming (2)
BUFFY Season 3
Buffy 3- 1 Anne
Buffy 3- 2 Dead Man's Party
Buffy 3- 3 Faith, Hope and Trick
Buffy 3- 4 Beauty and the Beasts
Buffy 3- 5 Homecoming
Buffy 3- 6 Band Candy
Buffy 3- 7 Revelations
Buffy 3- 8 Lover's Walk
Buffy 3- 9 The Wish
Buffy 3-10 Amends
Buffy 3-11 Gingerbread
Buffy 3-12 Helpless
Buffy 3-13 The Zeppo
Buffy 3-14 Bad Girls
Buffy 3-15 Consequences
Buffy 3-16 Doppelgangland
Buffy 3-17 Enemies
Buffy 3-18 Earshot
Buffy 3-19 Choices
Buffy 3-20 The Prom
Buffy 3-21 Graduation Day (1)
Buffy 3-22 Graduation Day (2)
BUFFY Season 4 / ANGEL Season 1
Buffy 4- 1 The Freshman
Angel 1- 1 City Of
Buffy 4- 2 Living Conditions
Angel 1- 2 Lonely Hearts
Buffy 4- 3 The Harsh Light of Day
Angel 1- 3 In The Dark
Buffy 4- 4 Fear, Itself
Angel 1- 4 I Fall To Pieces
Buffy 4- 5 Beer Bad
Angel 1- 5 Rm W/a Vu
Buffy 4- 6 Wild at Heart
Angel 1- 6 Sense & Sensitivity
Buffy 4- 7 The Initiative
Angel 1- 7 Bachelor Party
Buffy 4- 8 Pangs
Angel 1- 8 I Will Remember You
Buffy 4- 9 Something Blue
Angel 1- 9 Hero
Buffy 4-10 Hush
Angel 1-10 Parting Gifts
Buffy 4-11 Doomed
Angel 1-11 Somnambulist
Buffy 4-12 A New Man
Angel 1-12 Expecting
Buffy 4-13 The I in Team
Angel 1-13 She
Buffy 4-14 Goodbye Iowa
Angel 1-14 I've Got You Under My Skin
Buffy 4-15 This Year's Girl
Angel 1-15 The Prodigal
Buffy 4-16 Who Are You?
Angel 1-16 The Ring
Buffy 4-17 Superstar
Angel 1-17 Eternity
Buffy 4-18 Where the Wild Things Are
Angel 1-18 Five By Five
Buffy 4-19 New Moon Rising
Angel 1-19 Sanctuary
Buffy 4-20 The Yoko Factor
Angel 1-20 War Zone
Buffy 4-21 Primeval
Angel 1-21 Blind Date
Buffy 4-22 Restless
Angel 1-22 To Shanshu In L.A.
BUFFY Season 5 / ANGEL Season 2
Buffy 5- 1 Buffy Vs. Dracula
Angel 2- 1 Judgment
Buffy 5- 2 Real Me
Angel 2- 2 Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been
Buffy 5- 3 The Replacement
Angel 2- 3 First Impressions
Buffy 5- 4 Out of My Mind
Angel 2- 4 Untouched
Buffy 5- 5 No Place Like Home
Angel 2- 5 Dear Boy
Buffy 5- 6 Family
Angel 2- 6 Guise Will Be Guise
Buffy 5- 7 Fool For Love
Angel 2- 7 Darla
Buffy 5- 8 Shadow
Angel 2- 8 The Shroud Of Rahmon
Buffy 5- 9 Listening to Fear
Angel 2- 9 The Trial
Buffy 5-10 Into the Woods
Angel 2-10 Reunion
Buffy 5-11 Triangle
Angel 2-11 Redefinition
Buffy 5-12 Checkpoint
Angel 2-12 Blood Money
Buffy 5-13 Blood Ties
Angel 2-13 Happy Anniversary
Buffy 5-14 Crush
Angel 2-14 The Thin Dead Line
Buffy 5-15 I Was Made to Love You
Angel 2-15 Reprise
Buffy 5-16 The Body
Angel 2-16 Epiphany
Buffy 5-17 Forever
Angel 2-17 Disharmony
Buffy 5-18 Intervention
Angel 2-18 Dead End
Buffy 5-19 Tough Love
Angel 2-19 Belonging
Buffy 5-20 Spiral
Angel 2-20 Over The Rainbow
Buffy 5-21 The Weight of the World
Angel 2-21 Through The Looking Glass
Buffy 5-22 The Gift
Angel 2-22 There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb
BUFFY Season 6 / ANGEL Season 3
Angel 3- 1 Heartthrob
Angel 3- 2 That Vision Thing
Buffy 6- 1 Bargaining (1)
Buffy 6- 2 Bargaining (2)
Angel 3- 3 That Old Gang Of Mine
Buffy 6- 3 After Life
Angel 3- 4 Carpe Noctem
Buffy 6- 4 Flooded
Angel 3- 5 Fredless
Buffy 6- 5 Life Serial
Angel 3- 6 Billy
Buffy 6- 6 All the Way
Angel 3- 7 Offspring
Buffy 6- 7 Once More, with Feeling
Angel 3- 8 Quickening
Buffy 6- 8 Tabula Rasa
Angel 3- 9 Lullaby
Buffy 6- 9 Smashed
Buffy 6-10 Wrecked
Angel 3-10 Dad
Buffy 6-11 Gone
Angel 3-11 Birthday
Angel 3-12 Provider
Buffy 6-12 Doublemeat Palace
Angel 3-13 Waiting In The Wings
Buffy 6-13 Dead Things
Buffy 6-14 Older and Far Away
Angel 3-14 Couplet
Angel 3-15 Loyalty
Buffy 6-15 As You Were
Angel 3-16 Sleep Tight
Buffy 6-16 Hell's Bells
Buffy 6-17 Normal Again
Angel 3-17 Forgiving
Angel 3-18 Double Or Nothing
Angel 3-19 The Price
Buffy 6-18 Entropy
Angel 3-20 A New World
Buffy 6-19 Seeing Red
Angel 3-21 Benediction
Buffy 6-20 Villains
Angel 3-22 Tomorrow
Buffy 6-21 Two to Go
Buffy 6-22 Grave
BUFFY Season 7 / ANGEL Season 4
Buffy 7- 1 Lessons
Buffy 7- 2 Beneath You
Angel 4- 1 Deep Down
Buffy 7- 3 Same Time, Same Place
Angel 4- 2 Ground State
Buffy 7- 4 Help
Angel 4- 3 The House Always Wins
Buffy 7- 5 Selfless
Angel 4- 4 Slouching Toward Bethlehem
Angel 4- 5 Supersymmetry
Buffy 7- 6 Him
Angel 4- 6 Spin The Bottle
Buffy 7- 7 Conversations with Dead People
Angel 4- 7 Apocalypse, Nowish
Buffy 7- 8 Sleeper
Buffy 7- 9 Never Leave Me
Buffy 7-10 Bring on the Night
Buffy 7-11 Showtime
Angel 4- 8 Habeas Corpses
Buffy 7-12 Potential
Angel 4- 9 Long Day's Journey
Angel 4-10 Awakening
Buffy 7-13 The Killer in Me
Angel 4-11 Soulless
Buffy 7-14 First Date
Angel 4-12 Calvary
Buffy 7-15 Get It Done
Buffy 7-16 Storyteller
Angel 4-13 Salvage
Angel 4-14 Release
Buffy 7-17 Lies My Parents Told Me
Angel 4-15 Orpheus
Angel 4-16 Players
Angel 4-17 Inside Out
Angel 4-18 Shiny Happy People
Buffy 7-18 Dirty Girls
Angel 4-19 The Magic Bullet
Angel 4-20 Sacrifice
Buffy 7-19 Empty Places
Angel 4-21 Peace Out
Buffy 7-20 Touched
Angel 4-22 Home
Buffy 7-21 End of Days
Buffy 7-22 Chosen
ANGEL Season 5
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And I add this to threads now and then just to help people along:
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At what point should you give up if the series just isn't hitting you?
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The episode list that MasterofDVD posted above is one that I initially made for some friends of mine a few years back who were just starting the show on dvd (glad to see it's still being passed around these boards). I made that first version largely based on the original order in which all of the episodes aired on tv. If however you'd rather watch the episodes in an order that cuts down on the number of times you need to swap discs between the two shows, I have a different version of the list I made for that purpose. All of the points of commonality between the two shows are kept intact, yet areas where nothing links between the two shows for gaps at a time are are arranged in away that minimal disc swapping is necessary.
So basically, if you want to avoid one show spoiling the other, and want to catch all the references and crossovers between the shows, anything in red, blue, or bold text needs to definitely be watched in the order they appear on this list. Anything in normal text you can vary the viewing order.
key:
red = official "crossover event" as promoted by The WB
blue = major connection between the shows
bold = minor connection between the shows
BUFFY Season 1
Buffy 1-01 Welcome to the Hellmouth
Buffy 1-02 The Harvest
Buffy 1-03 Witch
Buffy 1-04 Teacher's Pet
Buffy 1-05 Never Kill a Boy on the First Date
Buffy 1-06 The Pack
Buffy 1-07 Angel
Buffy 1-08 I Robot, You Jane
Buffy 1-09 The Puppet Show
Buffy 1-10 Nightmares
Buffy 1-11 Out of Mind, Out of Sight
Buffy 1-12 Prophecy Girl
BUFFY Season 2
Buffy 2-01 When She Was Bad
Buffy 2-02 Some Assembly Required
Buffy 2-03 School Hard
Buffy 2-04 Inca Mummy Girl
Buffy 2-05 Reptile Boy
Buffy 2-06 Halloween
Buffy 2-07 Lie to Me
Buffy 2-08 The Dark Age
Buffy 2-09 What's My Line? (1)
Buffy 2-10 What's My Line? (2)
Buffy 2-11 Ted
Buffy 2-12 Bad Eggs
Buffy 2-13 Surprise
Buffy 2-14 Innocence
Buffy 2-15 Phases
Buffy 2-16 Bewitched, Bothered And Bewildered
Buffy 2-17 Passion
Buffy 2-18 Killed by Death
Buffy 2-19 I Only Have Eyes for You
Buffy 2-20 Go Fish
Buffy 2-21 Becoming (1)
Buffy 2-22 Becoming (2)
BUFFY Season 3
Buffy 3-01 Anne
Buffy 3-02 Dead Man's Party
Buffy 3-03 Faith, Hope and Trick
Buffy 3-04 Beauty and the Beasts
Buffy 3-05 Homecoming
Buffy 3-06 Band Candy
Buffy 3-07 Revelations
Buffy 3-08 Lover's Walk
Buffy 3-09 The Wish
Buffy 3-10 Amends
Buffy 3-11 Gingerbread
Buffy 3-12 Helpless
Buffy 3-13 The Zeppo
Buffy 3-14 Bad Girls
Buffy 3-15 Consequences
Buffy 3-16 Doppelgangland
Buffy 3-17 Enemies
Buffy 3-18 Earshot
Buffy 3-19 Choices
Buffy 3-20 The Prom
Buffy 3-21 Graduation Day (1)
Buffy 3-22 Graduation Day (2)
BUFFY Season 4 / ANGEL Season 1
Buffy 4-01 The Freshman
Angel 1-01 City Of
Angel 1-02 Lonely Hearts
Buffy 4-02 Living Conditions
Buffy 4-03 The Harsh Light of Day
Angel 1-03 In The Dark
Angel 1-04 I Fall To Pieces
Buffy 4-04 Fear, Itself
Buffy 4-05 Beer Bad
Buffy 4-06 Wild at Heart
Buffy 4-07 The Initiative
Angel 1-05 Rm W/a Vu
Angel 1-06 Sense & Sensitivity
Angel 1-07 Bachelor Party
Buffy 4-08 Pangs
Angel 1-08 I Will Remember You
Buffy 4-09 Something Blue
Buffy 4-10 Hush
Buffy 4-11 Doomed
Angel 1-09 Hero
Angel 1-10 Parting Gifts
Angel 1-11 Somnambulist
Angel 1-12 Expecting
Angel 1-13 She
Angel 1-14 I've Got You Under My Skin
Angel 1-15 The Prodigal
Buffy 4-12 A New Man
Buffy 4-13 The I in Team
Buffy 4-14 Goodbye Iowa
Buffy 4-15 This Year's Girl
Buffy 4-16 Who Are You?
Buffy 4-17 Superstar
Buffy 4-18 Where the Wild Things Are
Buffy 4-19 New Moon Rising
Angel 1-16 The Ring
Angel 1-17 Eternity
Angel 1-18 Five By Five
Angel 1-19 Sanctuary
Buffy 4-20 The Yoko Factor
Angel 1-20 War Zone
Buffy 4-21 Primeval
Angel 1-21 Blind Date
Buffy 4-22 Restless
Angel 1-22 To Shanshu In L.A.
BUFFY Season 5 / ANGEL Season 2
Buffy 5-01 Buffy Vs. Dracula
Buffy 5-02 Real Me
Buffy 5-03 The Replacement
Buffy 5-04 Out of My Mind
Angel 2-01 Judgment
Angel 2-02 Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been
Angel 2-03 First Impressions
Angel 2-04 Untouched
Angel 2-05 Dear Boy
Angel 2-06 Guise Will Be Guise
Buffy 5-05 No Place Like Home
Buffy 5-06 Family
Buffy 5-07 Fool For Love
Angel 2-07 Darla
Angel 2-08 The Shroud Of Rahmon
Buffy 5-08 Shadow
Buffy 5-09 Listening to Fear
Buffy 5-10 Into the Woods
Buffy 5-11 Triangle
Angel 2-09 The Trial
Angel 2-10 Reunion
Angel 2-11 Redefinition
Angel 2-12 Blood Money
Angel 2-13 Happy Anniversary
Angel 2-14 The Thin Dead Line
Angel 2-15 Reprise
Angel 2-16 Epiphany
Buffy 5-12 Checkpoint
Buffy 5-13 Blood Ties
Buffy 5-14 Crush
Buffy 5-15 I Was Made to Love You
Buffy 5-16 The Body
Buffy 5-17 Forever
Angel 2-17 Disharmony
Angel 2-18 Dead End
Buffy 5-18 Intervention
Buffy 5-19 Tough Love
Buffy 5-20 Spiral
Buffy 5-21 The Weight of the World
Angel 2-19 Belonging
Angel 2-20 Over The Rainbow
Angel 2-21 Through The Looking Glass
Buffy 5-22 The Gift
Angel 2-22 There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb
BUFFY Season 6 / ANGEL Season 3
Buffy 6-01 Bargaining (1)
Buffy 6-02 Bargaining (2)
Buffy 6-03 After Life
Angel 3-01 Heartthrob
Angel 3-02 That Vision Thing
Angel 3-03 That Old Gang Of Mine
Angel 3-04 Carpe Noctem
Buffy 6-04 Flooded
Angel 3-05 Fredless
Buffy 6-05 Life Serial
Buffy 6-06 All the Way
Buffy 6-07 Once More, with Feeling
Buffy 6-08 Tabula Rasa
Angel 3-06 Billy
Angel 3-07 Offspring
Angel 3-08 Quickening
Angel 3-09 Lullaby
Angel 3-10 Dad
Angel 3-11 Birthday
Buffy 6-09 Smashed
Buffy 6-10 Wrecked
Buffy 6-11 Gone
Buffy 6-12 Doublemeat Palace
Buffy 6-13 Dead Things
Buffy 6-14 Older and Far Away
Buffy 6-15 As You Were
Angel 3-12 Provider
Angel 3-13 Waiting In The Wings
Angel 3-14 Couplet
Angel 3-15 Loyalty
Angel 3-16 Sleep Tight
Angel 3-17 Forgiving
Angel 3-18 Double Or Nothing
Angel 3-19 The Price
Angel 3-20 A New World
Angel 3-21 Benediction
Angel 3-22 Tomorrow
Buffy 6-16 Hell's Bells
Buffy 6-17 Normal Again
Buffy 6-18 Entropy
Buffy 6-19 Seeing Red
Buffy 6-20 Villains
Buffy 6-21 Two to Go
Buffy 6-22 Grave
BUFFY Season 7 / ANGEL Season 4
Angel 4-01 Deep Down
Angel 4-02 Ground State
Angel 4-03 The House Always Wins
Angel 4-04 Slouching Toward Bethlehem
Buffy 7-01 Lessons
Buffy 7-02 Beneath You
Buffy 7-03 Same Time, Same Place
Buffy 7-04 Help
Buffy 7-05 Selfless
Buffy 7-06 Him
Buffy 7-07 Conversations with Dead People
Buffy 7-08 Sleeper
Buffy 7-09 Never Leave Me
Buffy 7-10 Bring on the Night
Buffy 7-11 Showtime
Buffy 7-12 Potential
Buffy 7-13 The Killer in Me
Buffy 7-14 First Date
Buffy 7-15 Get It Done
Buffy 7-16 Storyteller
Angel 4-05 Supersymmetry
Angel 4-06 Spin The Bottle
Angel 4-07 Apocalypse, Nowish
Angel 4-08 Habeas Corpses
Angel 4-09 Long Day's Journey
Angel 4-10 Awakening
Angel 4-11 Soulless
Angel 4-12 Calvary
Angel 4-13 Salvage
Angel 4-14 Release
Buffy 7-17 Lies My Parents Told Me
Angel 4-15 Orpheus
Buffy 7-18 Dirty Girls
Buffy 7-19 Empty Places
Angel 4-16 Players
Angel 4-17 Inside Out
Angel 4-18 Shiny Happy People
Angel 4-19 The Magic Bullet
Angel 4-20 Sacrifice
Angel 4-21 Peace Out
Buffy 7-20 Touched
Angel 4-22 Home
Buffy 7-21 End of Days
Buffy 7-22 Chosen
ANGEL Season 5
Angel 5-01 Conviction
Angel 5-02 Just Rewards
Angel 5-03 Unleashed
Angel 5-04 Hell Bound
Angel 5-05 Life of the Party
Angel 5-06 The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco
Angel 5-07 Lineage
Angel 5-08 Destiny
Angel 5-09 Harm's Way
Angel 5-10 Soul Purpose
Angel 5-11 Damage
Angel 5-12 You're Welcome
Angel 5-13 Why We Fight
Angel 5-14 Smile Time
Angel 5-15 A Hole in the World
Angel 5-16 Shells
Angel 5-17 Underneath
Angel 5-18 Origin
Angel 5-19 Time Bomb
Angel 5-20 The Girl In Question
Angel 5-21 Power Play
Angel 5-22 Not Fade Away
So basically, if you want to avoid one show spoiling the other, and want to catch all the references and crossovers between the shows, anything in red, blue, or bold text needs to definitely be watched in the order they appear on this list. Anything in normal text you can vary the viewing order.
key:
red = official "crossover event" as promoted by The WB
blue = major connection between the shows
bold = minor connection between the shows
BUFFY Season 1
Buffy 1-01 Welcome to the Hellmouth
Buffy 1-02 The Harvest
Buffy 1-03 Witch
Buffy 1-04 Teacher's Pet
Buffy 1-05 Never Kill a Boy on the First Date
Buffy 1-06 The Pack
Buffy 1-07 Angel
Buffy 1-08 I Robot, You Jane
Buffy 1-09 The Puppet Show
Buffy 1-10 Nightmares
Buffy 1-11 Out of Mind, Out of Sight
Buffy 1-12 Prophecy Girl
BUFFY Season 2
Buffy 2-01 When She Was Bad
Buffy 2-02 Some Assembly Required
Buffy 2-03 School Hard
Buffy 2-04 Inca Mummy Girl
Buffy 2-05 Reptile Boy
Buffy 2-06 Halloween
Buffy 2-07 Lie to Me
Buffy 2-08 The Dark Age
Buffy 2-09 What's My Line? (1)
Buffy 2-10 What's My Line? (2)
Buffy 2-11 Ted
Buffy 2-12 Bad Eggs
Buffy 2-13 Surprise
Buffy 2-14 Innocence
Buffy 2-15 Phases
Buffy 2-16 Bewitched, Bothered And Bewildered
Buffy 2-17 Passion
Buffy 2-18 Killed by Death
Buffy 2-19 I Only Have Eyes for You
Buffy 2-20 Go Fish
Buffy 2-21 Becoming (1)
Buffy 2-22 Becoming (2)
BUFFY Season 3
Buffy 3-01 Anne
Buffy 3-02 Dead Man's Party
Buffy 3-03 Faith, Hope and Trick
Buffy 3-04 Beauty and the Beasts
Buffy 3-05 Homecoming
Buffy 3-06 Band Candy
Buffy 3-07 Revelations
Buffy 3-08 Lover's Walk
Buffy 3-09 The Wish
Buffy 3-10 Amends
Buffy 3-11 Gingerbread
Buffy 3-12 Helpless
Buffy 3-13 The Zeppo
Buffy 3-14 Bad Girls
Buffy 3-15 Consequences
Buffy 3-16 Doppelgangland
Buffy 3-17 Enemies
Buffy 3-18 Earshot
Buffy 3-19 Choices
Buffy 3-20 The Prom
Buffy 3-21 Graduation Day (1)
Buffy 3-22 Graduation Day (2)
BUFFY Season 4 / ANGEL Season 1
Buffy 4-01 The Freshman
Angel 1-01 City Of
Angel 1-02 Lonely Hearts
Buffy 4-02 Living Conditions
Buffy 4-03 The Harsh Light of Day
Angel 1-03 In The Dark
Angel 1-04 I Fall To Pieces
Buffy 4-04 Fear, Itself
Buffy 4-05 Beer Bad
Buffy 4-06 Wild at Heart
Buffy 4-07 The Initiative
Angel 1-05 Rm W/a Vu
Angel 1-06 Sense & Sensitivity
Angel 1-07 Bachelor Party
Buffy 4-08 Pangs
Angel 1-08 I Will Remember You
Buffy 4-09 Something Blue
Buffy 4-10 Hush
Buffy 4-11 Doomed
Angel 1-09 Hero
Angel 1-10 Parting Gifts
Angel 1-11 Somnambulist
Angel 1-12 Expecting
Angel 1-13 She
Angel 1-14 I've Got You Under My Skin
Angel 1-15 The Prodigal
Buffy 4-12 A New Man
Buffy 4-13 The I in Team
Buffy 4-14 Goodbye Iowa
Buffy 4-15 This Year's Girl
Buffy 4-16 Who Are You?
Buffy 4-17 Superstar
Buffy 4-18 Where the Wild Things Are
Buffy 4-19 New Moon Rising
Angel 1-16 The Ring
Angel 1-17 Eternity
Angel 1-18 Five By Five
Angel 1-19 Sanctuary
Buffy 4-20 The Yoko Factor
Angel 1-20 War Zone
Buffy 4-21 Primeval
Angel 1-21 Blind Date
Buffy 4-22 Restless
Angel 1-22 To Shanshu In L.A.
BUFFY Season 5 / ANGEL Season 2
Buffy 5-01 Buffy Vs. Dracula
Buffy 5-02 Real Me
Buffy 5-03 The Replacement
Buffy 5-04 Out of My Mind
Angel 2-01 Judgment
Angel 2-02 Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been
Angel 2-03 First Impressions
Angel 2-04 Untouched
Angel 2-05 Dear Boy
Angel 2-06 Guise Will Be Guise
Buffy 5-05 No Place Like Home
Buffy 5-06 Family
Buffy 5-07 Fool For Love
Angel 2-07 Darla
Angel 2-08 The Shroud Of Rahmon
Buffy 5-08 Shadow
Buffy 5-09 Listening to Fear
Buffy 5-10 Into the Woods
Buffy 5-11 Triangle
Angel 2-09 The Trial
Angel 2-10 Reunion
Angel 2-11 Redefinition
Angel 2-12 Blood Money
Angel 2-13 Happy Anniversary
Angel 2-14 The Thin Dead Line
Angel 2-15 Reprise
Angel 2-16 Epiphany
Buffy 5-12 Checkpoint
Buffy 5-13 Blood Ties
Buffy 5-14 Crush
Buffy 5-15 I Was Made to Love You
Buffy 5-16 The Body
Buffy 5-17 Forever
Angel 2-17 Disharmony
Angel 2-18 Dead End
Buffy 5-18 Intervention
Buffy 5-19 Tough Love
Buffy 5-20 Spiral
Buffy 5-21 The Weight of the World
Angel 2-19 Belonging
Angel 2-20 Over The Rainbow
Angel 2-21 Through The Looking Glass
Buffy 5-22 The Gift
Angel 2-22 There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb
BUFFY Season 6 / ANGEL Season 3
Buffy 6-01 Bargaining (1)
Buffy 6-02 Bargaining (2)
Buffy 6-03 After Life
Angel 3-01 Heartthrob
Angel 3-02 That Vision Thing
Angel 3-03 That Old Gang Of Mine
Angel 3-04 Carpe Noctem
Buffy 6-04 Flooded
Angel 3-05 Fredless
Buffy 6-05 Life Serial
Buffy 6-06 All the Way
Buffy 6-07 Once More, with Feeling
Buffy 6-08 Tabula Rasa
Angel 3-06 Billy
Angel 3-07 Offspring
Angel 3-08 Quickening
Angel 3-09 Lullaby
Angel 3-10 Dad
Angel 3-11 Birthday
Buffy 6-09 Smashed
Buffy 6-10 Wrecked
Buffy 6-11 Gone
Buffy 6-12 Doublemeat Palace
Buffy 6-13 Dead Things
Buffy 6-14 Older and Far Away
Buffy 6-15 As You Were
Angel 3-12 Provider
Angel 3-13 Waiting In The Wings
Angel 3-14 Couplet
Angel 3-15 Loyalty
Angel 3-16 Sleep Tight
Angel 3-17 Forgiving
Angel 3-18 Double Or Nothing
Angel 3-19 The Price
Angel 3-20 A New World
Angel 3-21 Benediction
Angel 3-22 Tomorrow
Buffy 6-16 Hell's Bells
Buffy 6-17 Normal Again
Buffy 6-18 Entropy
Buffy 6-19 Seeing Red
Buffy 6-20 Villains
Buffy 6-21 Two to Go
Buffy 6-22 Grave
BUFFY Season 7 / ANGEL Season 4
Angel 4-01 Deep Down
Angel 4-02 Ground State
Angel 4-03 The House Always Wins
Angel 4-04 Slouching Toward Bethlehem
Buffy 7-01 Lessons
Buffy 7-02 Beneath You
Buffy 7-03 Same Time, Same Place
Buffy 7-04 Help
Buffy 7-05 Selfless
Buffy 7-06 Him
Buffy 7-07 Conversations with Dead People
Buffy 7-08 Sleeper
Buffy 7-09 Never Leave Me
Buffy 7-10 Bring on the Night
Buffy 7-11 Showtime
Buffy 7-12 Potential
Buffy 7-13 The Killer in Me
Buffy 7-14 First Date
Buffy 7-15 Get It Done
Buffy 7-16 Storyteller
Angel 4-05 Supersymmetry
Angel 4-06 Spin The Bottle
Angel 4-07 Apocalypse, Nowish
Angel 4-08 Habeas Corpses
Angel 4-09 Long Day's Journey
Angel 4-10 Awakening
Angel 4-11 Soulless
Angel 4-12 Calvary
Angel 4-13 Salvage
Angel 4-14 Release
Buffy 7-17 Lies My Parents Told Me
Angel 4-15 Orpheus
Buffy 7-18 Dirty Girls
Buffy 7-19 Empty Places
Angel 4-16 Players
Angel 4-17 Inside Out
Angel 4-18 Shiny Happy People
Angel 4-19 The Magic Bullet
Angel 4-20 Sacrifice
Angel 4-21 Peace Out
Buffy 7-20 Touched
Angel 4-22 Home
Buffy 7-21 End of Days
Buffy 7-22 Chosen
ANGEL Season 5
Angel 5-01 Conviction
Angel 5-02 Just Rewards
Angel 5-03 Unleashed
Angel 5-04 Hell Bound
Angel 5-05 Life of the Party
Angel 5-06 The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco
Angel 5-07 Lineage
Angel 5-08 Destiny
Angel 5-09 Harm's Way
Angel 5-10 Soul Purpose
Angel 5-11 Damage
Angel 5-12 You're Welcome
Angel 5-13 Why We Fight
Angel 5-14 Smile Time
Angel 5-15 A Hole in the World
Angel 5-16 Shells
Angel 5-17 Underneath
Angel 5-18 Origin
Angel 5-19 Time Bomb
Angel 5-20 The Girl In Question
Angel 5-21 Power Play
Angel 5-22 Not Fade Away
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Originally Posted by garmonbozia
You should know whether or not you are interested in the show or not by the end of season 2. The first half of season 2 is still very mediocre and a lot like season 1. The second half of season 2 is my favorite part of the entire show's run.
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I think I'm always the dissenting voice on this, but IMO it's absolutely not necessary to have an elaborate viewing order that entertwines BtVS and Angel. I know that's how the show was originally watched on TV, but I think they work better as seperate entities. The crossover episodes were few and far between.
As a general rule, watch BtVS first. The only exception to this would be the season four finale of Angel, which should be watched before the series finale of BtVS.
As a general rule, watch BtVS first. The only exception to this would be the season four finale of Angel, which should be watched before the series finale of BtVS.
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Originally Posted by garmonbozia
You should know whether or not you are interested in the show or not by the end of season 2. The first half of season 2 is still very mediocre and a lot like season 1. The second half of season 2 is my favorite part of the entire show's run.
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Originally Posted by Xander
I actually liked season 3 best, I think. But the second half of season 2 rocks.
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Originally Posted by TracerBullet
I think I'm always the dissenting voice on this, but IMO it's absolutely not necessary to have an elaborate viewing order that entertwines BtVS and Angel. I know that's how the show was originally watched on TV, but I think they work better as seperate entities. The crossover episodes were few and far between.
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin
You know, this thread could pick up where Sessa 17's thread left off, or faded away....
is anyone else amazed
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Originally Posted by Rypro 525
I wouldn't mind that.
is anyone else amazed
is anyone else amazed
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Just wanted to thank you guys for your posts, especially Master of DVD & Garmonbozia for the schedules. I think I am going to try Garmonbozia's schedule to try to cut down on the disc swapping some.
I just finished episode 7 of the first season and am really starting to like the show a little more after each episode. "Angel" (#7) has definitely been the strongest episode yet. I definitely think the humor is getting better as well. I am taking my time going thru them (I have to since my wife wants to watch and we have a toddler) but will hopefully be thru both series completely over the next couple of months.
I just finished episode 7 of the first season and am really starting to like the show a little more after each episode. "Angel" (#7) has definitely been the strongest episode yet. I definitely think the humor is getting better as well. I am taking my time going thru them (I have to since my wife wants to watch and we have a toddler) but will hopefully be thru both series completely over the next couple of months.
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Originally Posted by xVladx
I agree to a certain extend. I think it'd probably be easiest to just watch them straight through, but make sure to keep any crossovers in order, especially during the first season of Angel. There really isn't any need to alternate on the majority of the episodes.
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
Just wanted to thank you guys for your posts, especially Master of DVD & Garmonbozia for the schedules. I think I am going to try Garmonbozia's schedule to try to cut down on the disc swapping some.
I just finished episode 7 of the first season and am really starting to like the show a little more after each episode. "Angel" (#7) has definitely been the strongest episode yet. I definitely think the humor is getting better as well. I am taking my time going thru them (I have to since my wife wants to watch and we have a toddler) but will hopefully be thru both series completely over the next couple of months.
I just finished episode 7 of the first season and am really starting to like the show a little more after each episode. "Angel" (#7) has definitely been the strongest episode yet. I definitely think the humor is getting better as well. I am taking my time going thru them (I have to since my wife wants to watch and we have a toddler) but will hopefully be thru both series completely over the next couple of months.
got a season 3 question regarding an episode
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I finished watching AtS S4 a while ago, and I'm about to start BtVS S7, followed by AtS S5. I originally rented AtS S3 over the course of a few months because I didn't have the money for the full set, but I eventually bought it and it's still wrapped in plastic.