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Hiro11
01-19-06, 11:07 AM
Are they the flavor-of-the-minute or genuinely good?

Their debut single "I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor" just topped the British charts. It's a pretty good song, snappy mod-punk-pop a'la Kaiser Chiefs/Maximo Park, but not particularly unique. One of the B-sides ("Bigger Boys and Stolen Sweethearts") is a little more unique and promising, it also features a pretty funny refrain. Their debut album "Whatever People Say I am, That's What I am Not" got a few raves from the notoriously biased and fickle Brit press.

I dunno, I'm a little sick of jagged British neo-post punk. Is the album any good?

Giles
01-19-06, 11:10 AM
I couldn't wait after reading the review from NME (they gave it a rare 10 rating) I put in an order at CDWow ($16.12)

atlantamoi
01-19-06, 11:48 AM
I quickly went through the songs and wasn't really all that impressed. Maybe if this came out two years ago it would have had more pull, but I'm tiring of some of the Franz bands. I could totally change my opinion on more listens... just my first thoughts.

Giles
01-19-06, 01:04 PM
Pollstar isn't listing them yet, but they will be touring in North America at the end of March.

deadlax
01-19-06, 01:56 PM
Didn't like this album, preferred the We are Scientists album much more.

DullandWitless
01-20-06, 12:31 AM
I love the new album. First I've ever heard of them. I looked it up due to it being high on some lists in the rank em 06 thread. :o

BDB
01-20-06, 01:02 PM
I like it, have it a little bit, Giles I have tickets to see them at Great American Music Hall in SF, and saw the listing on pollstar.. got them last week.

I think your search was off :)

Mon 03/13/06 San Francisco, CA Great American Music Hall

Wed 03/15/06 Los Angeles, CA Music Box @ Fonda

Fri 03/17/06 Austin, TX La Zona Rosa

Sat 03/18/06 Chicago, IL Metro / Smart Bar


Tue 03/21/06 Toronto, ON Phoenix Concert Theatre

Wed 03/22/06 Montreal, QC La Sala Rossa

Thu 03/23/06 Boston, MA Paradise Rock Club / Lounge

Sat 03/25/06 New York, NY Webster Hall

Sun 03/26/06 Philadelphia, PA First Unitarian Church

Mon 03/27/06 Washington, DC 9:30 Club

Wed 03/29/06 Seattle, WA Crocodile Cafe

ChrisKnudsen
01-21-06, 10:32 PM
These acts are getting worse faster than the new waves of Grunge that came out in the '90s. My stomach feels ill imaging the post-punk revival equivent of Nickelback or Creed. I would say the Artic Monkeys are the equivent to Silverchair or 7 Mary 3 this generation. Sorry to dislike most music.

Tarantino
01-21-06, 11:03 PM
I listened to the album...didn't seem like anything too special to me.

= J

atlantamoi
01-22-06, 08:44 AM
On 2nd listen it really reminds me of a mesh between Jet and Franz. Not into this stuff.

Giles
01-22-06, 11:22 AM
I like it, have it a little bit, Giles I have tickets to see them at Great American Music Hall in SF, and saw the listing on pollstar.. got them last week.

I think your search was off :)

Mon 03/13/06 San Francisco, CA Great American Music Hall

Wed 03/15/06 Los Angeles, CA Music Box @ Fonda

Fri 03/17/06 Austin, TX La Zona Rosa

Sat 03/18/06 Chicago, IL Metro / Smart Bar


Tue 03/21/06 Toronto, ON Phoenix Concert Theatre

Wed 03/22/06 Montreal, QC La Sala Rossa

Thu 03/23/06 Boston, MA Paradise Rock Club / Lounge

Sat 03/25/06 New York, NY Webster Hall

Sun 03/26/06 Philadelphia, PA First Unitarian Church

Mon 03/27/06 Washington, DC 9:30 Club

Wed 03/29/06 Seattle, WA Crocodile Cafe


bought my 9:30 tix last Thursday

jonnyrocks
01-22-06, 08:46 PM
These acts are getting worse faster than the new waves of Grunge that came out in the '90s. My stomach feels ill imaging the post-punk revival equivent of Nickelback or Creed. I would say the Artic Monkeys are the equivent to Silverchair or 7 Mary 3 this generation. Sorry to dislike most music.

I like and agree with your analogy 100%. I'd also throw Morningwood and We Are Scientists in that same category.

EDIT: I somewhat retract my statement. Arctic Monkeys are totally way better than both Morningwood and We Are Scientists, mostly due to the fact that Arctic Monkeys are not shite. Going back to the analogy, Arctic Monkeys are more of a Stone Temple Pilots than a 7 Mary 3.

Comedyman90
01-24-06, 01:32 PM
http://www.nme.com/news/arctic-monkeys/22045

Their debut sold over 100,000 copies on it's first day and 350,000 copies are expected this week. I can't wait for this to be released in the U.S. already, I have been a follower of these guys for a while...good to see them succesfull!

Giles
01-24-06, 01:36 PM
I couldn't wait for the US edition so my order is among the thousands counted (paitently waiting for my CDWow order in the mail).

Numanoid
01-24-06, 01:42 PM
It will certainly be their fastest selling album ever.


Who are they now?

Giles
01-30-06, 10:10 PM
On 2nd listen it really reminds me of a mesh between Jet and Franz. Not into this stuff.

but for me, the Jet album was at least memorable and better than decent - a 10 from NME - what crack were they smoking? - okay that's the last time I will read their raves. and then they go and rank the album number 5 in their '100 Greatest British Albums Ever' list - okay, NME you have officially qualified and won yourselves the title of 'the snobbiest music rag on the planet'. I'll give this album a second spin, but first impression - meh?!

BDB
03-17-06, 02:24 PM
Saw the opening night of the US tour, here in San Fran on Monday. I have to say it was a really good show, lots of energy, slight problem with the amp for the bass about 3 songs in so they played a new song with no bass, acoustic like.... Good track, similar way of storytelling.

The set was short punchy and fast. 1 hour max. with only 1 album not much else can be expected. had a pretty good stage presence, seemed undaunted by the hype.

Including introducing themselves as the hot band of the moment or something to that effect..


Support act the Spinto band, wtf! looked like they were on ritalin or speed, they irked me with their silly headbopping. I think they all had shiny happy people playing in there monitors.


my ticket was 12 dollars, 2 guys beside me paid 70 and 100 dollars from scalpers. Glad to have seen them first time out.

The Bus
03-17-06, 03:57 PM
I don't get these guys at all. I'd compare them to the Libertines, or Razorlight, or Kaiser Chiefs.

(Those are all unfavorable impressions).

Franz Ferdinand and Maximo Park are 340x better.

grunter
03-17-06, 04:01 PM
I've tried repeatedly to "get" this album - but it just doesn't click for me. That "I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor" single just has no "get-up-n-go" for me.

I'd rate it a 35, Dick. I can't even dance to it.

BDB
03-17-06, 06:26 PM
Grunter is too old for arctic monkeys, what was great was the show was very limited in the teeny crowd, next time around though they will be mobbed with teenagers..

Snorker
03-18-06, 08:41 PM
I wasn't a fan at all. Way overrated, and not very good. I recently listened to We are scientists and would argue they're much better than AM. In fact, they're one of the few "Franz" (as this music is being referred to apparently) bands I like. I enjoy the Kaiser Chiefs as well, having seen them live, I like them more than when I had only heard the album. If you kinda dig their music and have the chance to see their concert, check em out.

chino77
03-18-06, 11:12 PM
overrated for sure but not really a bad cd...just nothing special IMO.

Autumn
03-19-06, 07:05 AM
I'll give this album a second spin, but first impression - meh?!

Thanks for posting this as I was debating whether or not to pick it up. Per your previous threads on Babybird and others, I think our musical tastes are similar. I checked some other forums for other musicians I enjoy and several posted they weren't so impressed.

Hiro11
03-19-06, 11:37 AM
Franz Ferdinand and Maximo Park are 340x better.I agree. "A Certain Trigger" is still in my CD changer, great album. Arctic Monkeys was in there for about two hours.

Squirrel God
03-19-06, 06:09 PM
I don't get the popularity of the Monkeys at all. I liked 'Dancefloor' but everything else I've heard has sounded like a spoof. Maybe that's it and they're a Northern England version of Spinal Tap.

Surprised to read of their popularity in America in the press as I would've thought the very thick accents would've meant it was instantly dismissed as incomprehensible. Or maybe that's the attraction?

wendersfan
03-20-06, 12:55 PM
It occurs to me that the main reason for the whole Arctic Monkeys hype is the need for the UK music press (which is of course centered in London) to find an English band to take the place of The Libertines in the garage/punk genre. Since Franz Ferdinand aren't English, but Scottish, and The Strokes and The White Stripes from the US, is was necessary to elevate a genuinely English (as opposed to merely British) band to their level. Thus the hype and the 10/10 rating from NME.

Giles
03-20-06, 01:18 PM
I agree. "A Certain Trigger" is still in my CD changer, great album. Arctic Monkeys was in there for about two hours.

my thoughts as well, I like the Hard-Fi album vastly more. What surprised me was that hardly any of the Artic Monkey's songs struck me as memorable, or witty as some critics have voiced - again the Art Brut album excells as being geniunly funny. The AM's album is just a throw away IMO, after next Monday's gig at the 9:30 club, their 15 minutes of fame for me will be up.

The Bus
03-20-06, 01:38 PM
Art Brut's album is damn near a comedy album it's so funny. I guess Bang Bang Rock & Roll is not out in the US? A shame.

The only highlight in the Arctic Monkeys album (so far) is that one little weird vocal inflection where the singer over-emphasizes his accent in the last words of each line in the verse. Unfortunately this happens about 25 seconds into the first song of the album so it knocks out any desire for me to listen further.

Anytime I hear "I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor" I turn and put in Franz Ferdinand's "Michael" which is much better and rhymes "dance floor" with "beautiful dance whore" (as opposed to "1984") which earns it bonus points in my book.

I don't dislike the Arctic Monkeys. They have some good songs. But their appeal is extremely limited. I'd put them somewhere below Hard-Fi but above VHS or Beta.

Giles
03-20-06, 01:45 PM
Art Brut's album is damn near a comedy album it's so funny. I guess Bang Bang Rock & Roll is not out in the US? A shame.



and yet oddly they are on tour here in the states. Amazon notes that the US street date is April 18th. I love the songs 'Formed a Band' and 'My Little Brother'

Giles
03-27-06, 11:59 PM
so...

I just came back from their 9:30 Club gig and...

I don't get, besides 'I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor' and 'Fake Tales of San Francisco' and the last song (which is escaping me at the moment) all the rest of the set was pretty mundane. The overamplified bass seemed like a mask to the fact that all the other songs sounded way too much of the same. The songs also seem to exist for the moment, they are bombastic and aggressive, but utimately seem vapid and just not memorable. I also found Alex Turner's voice slightly grating - live. As for the show, I noted two video camera and then this:



NPR / WASHINGTON 9:30 CLUB STREAM

Arctic Monkeys are currently on tour in the US and Canada. The band arrive in Washington DC on Monday March 27th and shall be performing that evening at the legendery 9.30 Club. National Public Radio will be there too recording the show. You can listen the show live on NPR.org as part of the All Songs Considered ‘Live Concert’ series. The show starts at 10pm EST.

NPR.ORG


all in all, a tad above average, but not excellent.