Most gratuitous movie of all time is?

[madara]

Is there top ten like database out there for most gratuitous non porn movie of all time? I posted this around trying to see if my choice of Prospero Book can be beaten besides general curiousity of what others there might be. Anything released outside of adult industry that is.

[Mondo Kane]

Pink Flamingos? Caligula?

[whynotsmile]

9 songs was the most pornographic non porno film ive ever seen

[RichC2]

Whats that movie with all naked serial killers?

[Giles]

I recall some sleezy movie called Love Camp (something, something) that was just an excuse to showcase soft core sex., very light on the plot.

[Matthew Chmiel]

9 songs was the most pornographic non porno film ive ever seen
We have a winner.

[Coral]

We have a winner.

Naw, Baise Moi was much more gratuitous (sex and violence) than 9 Songs was:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0249380/

[Hokeyboy]

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[Norm de Plume]

I guess by "gratuitous" you mean sexually gratuitous (gratuitous on its own means excessive). I would say Ken Park or In the Realm of the Senses (which I haven't seen), and maybe even Salo, although it only has wall-to-wall nudity; its sex scenes are tame and simulated (ie. no erections, blowjobs, fingering women).

[DieselsDen]

BULLY

If only because the main characters were high school students, and the camerawork and direction felt sleazy.

[Eric D.]

Irreversible.

[lotsofdvds]

The Whole Nine Yards.

[The Nature Boy]

It will be "A Million Little Pieces" once that is adapted.

[Rockmjd23]

Probably Caligula.

[scott shelton]

Anatomy Of Hell

[Cancer Man]

Very Bad Things.

First there was the frantic sex with the Asian hooker.

Then there were the bodies (including the said Asian hooker).

And there was the body disposal involving gardening implements...

:chainsaw:

It was all a bit too much...

:eek: :jawdrop: :yack:

[RichC2]

BULLY

If only because the main characters were high school students, and the camerawork and direction felt sleazy.

By any means possible, avoid Ken Park.

[garmonbozia]

By any means possible, avoid Ken Park.

my thoughts exactly. if DieselsDen thinks the simulated sex with high school characters in BULLY was too sleazy, the non-simulated sex scenes with high school characters in KEN PARK is definitely going to be too much.

[johnnysd]

Even though it is not really dirty, especially by today's standards, Barbarella would probably need to be on this list.

[Matthew Chmiel]

Naw, Baise Moi was much more gratuitous (sex and violence) than 9 Songs was:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0249380/
I don't know. While Baise Moi has more violence (whereas 9 Songs really didn't have any), 9 Songs has a more frequent occurance of sex as the run time is shorter than that of Baise Moi. Oddly, both 9 Songs and Baise Moi have very short running times (both are under/around 75 minutes).

If we're taking into account both violence and sex, Boise Moi has this contest down in spades. Just sex, 9 Songs is more of a winner.

Now violence-only on the other hand...

[belboz]

<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gratuitous&db=">Gratuitous</a>

I don't think there's such a thing as gratuitous violence or sex in movies. I get what people mean when they say that, but I think they're usually missing the point.

[cultshock]

In the Realm of the Senses (which I haven't seen),

While that film features numerous hardcore sex scenes, I would hesitate to call it "gratuitous". It seemed to me that the explicit sex was important to the storyline. But then again, that's just my opinion.

I would agree with CALIGULA though, both in terms of sex and violence. Hell, producer Bob Guccione went behind director Tinto Brass' back and added even more sleazy scenes to the film.

[raven56706]

Battlefield Earth

[Rockmjd23]

Chronicles of Narnia. Gratuitous use of Christianity references.


;)

[NatrlBornThrllr]

[snip] Baise Moi [snip]

Agreed.

[Giles]

there was some eighties T&A film called 'Hardbodies' that had overaged actors playing early twenty somethings having constant sex - that was pretty gratuitous.

[Norm de Plume]

While that film features numerous hardcore sex scenes, I would hesitate to call it "gratuitous". It seemed to me that the explicit sex was important to the storyline. But then again, that's just my opinion.
True, but, although I'm not puritanical, I don't see the necessity of having hardcore sex in non-porn. I suppose if sex is integral to the plot, such as in In the Realm... and another Japanese film called Lies, it's justified, but there are other films about sex that manage to get their message across without being quite so explicit (unsimulated), such as The Piano Teacher and Under the Skin.

[mike7162]

How about the original cut of Ken Russell's "The Devils".
"Inserts" Very gratutious nudity. I read somewhere that it has the longest nude scene in film history, something like 30 minutes long.
Oh, and anything with a naked man in it.

[DieselsDen]

my thoughts exactly. if DieselsDen thinks the simulated sex with high school characters in BULLY was too sleazy, the non-simulated sex scenes with high school characters in KEN PARK is definitely going to be too much.

It wasn't so much the simulated sex scenes, it was the presentation found in BULLY. Lingering shots of young girl's crotches and breasts, even when there isn't any sex going on. Shirtless young boys. It felt sleazy...I had to watch a few pornos just to feel clean again.

Incidentally, I liked the film and found the story fascinating, though I would not admit that on a job application...

[Ayre]

Anatomy of Hell

[Giles]

gratutious is Peter Jackson updating the King Kong movie by having Kong fight THREE T-Rex's