KISS Franchise
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Doc McGhee, who represents the rockers KISS, has been toying with the idea of recruiting an entire band to replace the original KISS and don the band’s famous makeup.
“KISS is more like Doritos or Pepsi, as far as a brand name is concerned,” he said. “They’re more characters than the individual person. I think they have a legitimate chance to carry the franchise.”
“KISS is more like Doritos or Pepsi, as far as a brand name is concerned,” he said. “They’re more characters than the individual person. I think they have a legitimate chance to carry the franchise.”
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Well, they're half way there already. If anybody's been toying with this idea, it's Gene Simmons.
I thought this was the "plot" of the next season of that Rock Star reality show.
I thought this was the "plot" of the next season of that Rock Star reality show.
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This is an old story. They floated the idea much like a political leak to gauge public reaction.
It will never happen.
The current band is most likely the final line-up that the band will have. Eric Singer is a brilliant drummer - just ask Brian May and Alice Cooper (he's been in both of their bands, and both have stated that he is the best Rock drummer in the world), and Tommy Thayer is a rock solid guitar player. But that's as far as it can go. Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons have styles that are too unique to replace as frontmen and have it still be remotely called "KISS."
I'm sure Gene and Doc had dollar signs in their eyes when they floated this idea, but I'm pretty sure that the overwhelming negative public response that followed showed them that it just won't work.
Then again, Gene thought that The Elder would be a big hit, so....
It will never happen.
The current band is most likely the final line-up that the band will have. Eric Singer is a brilliant drummer - just ask Brian May and Alice Cooper (he's been in both of their bands, and both have stated that he is the best Rock drummer in the world), and Tommy Thayer is a rock solid guitar player. But that's as far as it can go. Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons have styles that are too unique to replace as frontmen and have it still be remotely called "KISS."
I'm sure Gene and Doc had dollar signs in their eyes when they floated this idea, but I'm pretty sure that the overwhelming negative public response that followed showed them that it just won't work.
Then again, Gene thought that The Elder would be a big hit, so....
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Originally Posted by B5Erik
Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons have styles that are too unique to replace as frontmen and have it still be remotely called "KISS."
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Originally Posted by Swurgen
Doc McGhee, who represents the rockers KISS, has been toying with the idea of recruiting an entire band to replace the original KISS and don the band’s famous makeup.
I hate to say this but I wish two of my top 5 all-time favorite bands would please see the writing on the wall and die! (Queen and Kiss)
In my mind, Queen died with Freddie Mercury (and should have quit after The Game) and Kiss died with the make-up (and should have quit after Creatures of the Night)...though I do have every album by both groups anyway.
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
I hate to say this but I wish two of my top 5 all-time favorite bands would please see the writing on the wall and die! (Queen and Kiss)
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Originally Posted by jrsl76
I absolutely agree. Oh and off topic, just because I find this really cool, my next door neighbor Kelly just became Gene Simmons and his family's personal chef and will be on Gene's new reality TV show on A&E.
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Originally Posted by B5Erik
It will never happen.
The current band is most likely the final line-up that the band will have. Eric Singer is a brilliant drummer - just ask Brian May and Alice Cooper (he's been in both of their bands, and both have stated that he is the best Rock drummer in the world), and Tommy Thayer is a rock solid guitar player. But that's as far as it can go. Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons have styles that are too unique to replace as frontmen and have it still be remotely called "KISS."
The current band is most likely the final line-up that the band will have. Eric Singer is a brilliant drummer - just ask Brian May and Alice Cooper (he's been in both of their bands, and both have stated that he is the best Rock drummer in the world), and Tommy Thayer is a rock solid guitar player. But that's as far as it can go. Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons have styles that are too unique to replace as frontmen and have it still be remotely called "KISS."
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Originally Posted by Jason
But they're not going to make new music. They're going to sell $100 concert tickets, play "Shout it Out Loud" and "Love Gun", set off a bazillion tons of pyrotechnics, and sell $50 t-shirts with drawings of the original band on them and some stupid slogan like "KISS rocks your cock!"
The only reason that KISS won't tour again until 2007 is because Paul Stanley has had 2 fairly unsuccessful hip replacement surgeries, and isn't up to touring and doing a full KISS show yet.
The last KISS tour actually did fairly well, all things considered (averaging over 5,000 fans per show for a 30+ year old band isn't bad at all).
But they couldn't sell 1,000 tickets to an "official" KISS tribute band without Paul & Gene. Not even at $15 a ticket. They know it - and more importantly, so do concert promoters.
KISS sounded better in 2004 than they had since - 1994! When they had Eric Singer and Bruce Kulick in the band. Revenge was one of KISS' best albums, and this line-up has the ability to do an album that good.
Time will tell.
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Originally Posted by B5Erik
KISS sounded better in 2004 than they had since - 1994! When they had Eric Singer and Bruce Kulick in the band. Revenge was one of KISS' best albums, and this line-up has the ability to do an album that good.
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
And I can definitely see them trying to sell a new group of guys as KISS. They would be officially annointed by Gene and Paul, and the shows would evolve into some kind of Ozzfest like festival. The second act would be the real headliner, just like Priest and Maiden were at the last couple of Ozzfests. And who knows when there will be a surprise appearance by one of the "legacy" members of the band. What could be more exciting than having Gene and Paul join the new guys for rousing renditions of Shout It Out Loud and Love Gun?
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Originally Posted by Jason
I can definitely see them trying to sell a new group of guys as KISS.
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My only wish is that Paul would get off his ass, write some great music, and tour on his own.
Paul has proven that he can do.
Paul has proven that he can do.
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
My only wish is that Paul would get off his ass, write some great music, and tour on his own.
Paul has proven that he can do.
Paul has proven that he can do.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/..._id=1001477165
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Originally Posted by Flashback
Kiss' Stanley Readies Second Solo Set
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/..._id=1001477165
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/..._id=1001477165
Awesome!
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So no date of release? Just...soon?
I will definitely pick it up. I even came to like Gene's recent solo album after several listens (though some songs are really weak).
Interesting that Kulick plays bass on the album. And Paul thinks his voice is stronger now than back in '78?
I will definitely pick it up. I even came to like Gene's recent solo album after several listens (though some songs are really weak).
Interesting that Kulick plays bass on the album. And Paul thinks his voice is stronger now than back in '78?
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
So no date of release? Just...soon?
I will definitely pick it up. I even came to like Gene's recent solo album after several listens (though some songs are really weak).
Interesting that Kulick plays bass on the album. And Paul thinks his voice is stronger now than back in '78?
I will definitely pick it up. I even came to like Gene's recent solo album after several listens (though some songs are really weak).
Interesting that Kulick plays bass on the album. And Paul thinks his voice is stronger now than back in '78?
Paul has always had a strong voice. Do you think it isn't?
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I read about this 2 or 3 months ago. I can't even say that it surprises me that Simmons thought this. The man will sell the Kiss name to anyone with a couple bucks, so who's really surprised about this? However, you can't say that Kiss sold out... Gene's always been up-front about the fact that the reasons for forming a band were to screw as many women as possible and to make a lot of money.
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Paul has always had a strong voice. Do you think it isn't?
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Had to post this quote by Gene Simmons that was in a recent issue of Blender:
Kiss manager Doc McGhee is considering reviving the group, with the old makeup being worn by a totally new linup. Band leader Gene Simmons is considering the idea. "When you look at original members, the Beatles are not original members," Simmons mused. "Ringo is not an original member."
The Beatles comparision does not even relate to what they are talking of doing. Gene, what's going on with you
Kiss manager Doc McGhee is considering reviving the group, with the old makeup being worn by a totally new linup. Band leader Gene Simmons is considering the idea. "When you look at original members, the Beatles are not original members," Simmons mused. "Ringo is not an original member."
The Beatles comparision does not even relate to what they are talking of doing. Gene, what's going on with you