Crimson Tide: Unrated Extended Edition ----> 5/16/06 (merged)

[Mike Lowrey]

Well, we all know that this was supposed to be released back in May, and it was delayed for who knows what reason, so is there been any word on a new release date for this title?

I ask because I finally got around to watching the second half of the Das Boot mini-series, and it got my submarine movie mojo movin' again.

[Artman]

I've been holding out for this one too. The old release being on sale this wk at BB is mighty tempting...

[WhiskyDrinker]

the current version of Crimson Tide just got a price drop, you can read into that however you want.

[Rammsteinfan]

I concur... im waiting too.

[dcprules]

Hopefully we will get an SE of this eventually. It's been announced and delayed too many times already.

[Gotham_Knight]

As previously mentioned, Crimson Tide being on sale at Best Buy is mighty tempting; special edition on the way or not.

I've been waiting for word on this SE as well as the Enemy Of The State SE. They're two of my favorite Tony Scott movies (especially Crimson Tide) but if those SEs don't get a date announced soon, I'm just going to cave and get the current versions of them. I'd gladly double dip for both anyway.

[acostigan]

To this point, I hadn't heard anything of a Enemy of the State SE. I'd be stoked for that one; I've watched the current disc hundreds of times.

-AC

edit: okay, okay...I've watched it dozens of times ;)

[thelwig14]

I will wait and not cave in. Anamorphic is a big deal to me.

[B5Erik]

I'll wait. I've waited this long, what's another 6-24 months? I waited a hell of a long time for the Goodfellas SE, I can wait for this (and Enemy of the State).

[digitalfreaknyc]

Originally posted by thelwig14
I will wait and not cave in. Anamorphic is a big deal to me.

HA!

You assume you'll get it!

Ransom wasn't and it was a touchtone SE re-release.

[Mike Lowrey]

Even though I don't have a WS TV, I still make sure to buy everything in anamorphic WS. (I have 16:9 enhanced mode). The extra resolution makes a big difference.

Edit: Yippee!! This post made me a "DVD Talk Special Edition"!!

[Adrenaline]

Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
Even though I don't have a WS TV, I still make sure to buy everything in anamorphic WS. (I have 16:9 enhanced mode). The extra resolution makes a big difference.

Edit: Yippee!! This post made me a "DVD Talk Special Edition"!!

Same here, and down the road when you do upgrade you'll be all set.

Congrats on making DVD Talk SE :)

[slop101]

I've had the CT-SE for more than a year... the R2, that is.

[thelwig14]

Originally posted by digitalfreaknyc
HA!

You assume you'll get it!

Ransom wasn't and it was a touchtone SE re-release.

I have no worries about the format. Comparing a re-release of Ransom and Crimson Tide is a hilarious stretch.

[Shazam]

Come on people. Purchase it. That'll increase the chances of the SE coming out :)

[Fok]

Originally posted by Shazam
Come on people. Purchase it. That'll increase the chances of the SE coming out :)

Yep that's how it usually works with me :grunt:

[B5Erik]

Damn! That's right. I need to purchase the regular non-anamorphic version so that they can announce the anamorphic SE the following week.

I forgot how these things work....

[Gotham_Knight]

Would the release of the Man On Fire SE increase the odds of seeing the SEs of Crimson Tide and Enemy Of The State?

When Man On Fire came out theatrically, I remember a post at the Digital Bits stating that the release of the Crimson Tide and Enemy Of The State SEs might happen when Man On Fire hit DVD. The announcement of the delay on those titles came soon after.

Now with a more comprehensive version of Man On Fire reportedly coming out in January, could it be at all possible the special editions will hit then?

[digitalfreaknyc]

Now with a more comprehensive version of Man On Fire reportedly coming out in January, could it be at all possible the special editions will hit then?

Where did THAT rumor come from?

[RebelScum]

I got CT from the BB sale. Watched it last night for the first time on my 57" WS Tosh, using a Zenith DVB318 "upconverting" DVD player (it upconverts to 1080i signal). Because my TV locks into full stretched mode when it gets an HD signal, I always have to use the DVD player's "zoom" mode to vertically stretch non-anamorphic WS content. Not too big a deal, but the resolution is very bad, even when upconverted (my gf even noticed).

Anyway, the most annoying thing kept happening during the movie. For like the first 5 or 6 chapters, every time it went to a new chapter, the DVD player would "reset" its zoom mode back to normal, which meant it's a "squished" picture. I'd have to manually re-zoom it, and continually had to "eyeball" the amount of zoom necessary. It didn't happen again until the last chapter before the credits. I don't know whether it was a bug with the DVD player, or something about the disc that caused it. We have watched a few other non-anamorphic ws flicks in the same way, but they always stayed zoomed properly.

Has anyone else noticed this problem? I guess it's a pretty specific situation, which would only apply to Zenith DVB318 users watching on a WS set.

Otherwise, great movie!

[digitalfreaknyc]

March 2006.

[Patrick Mirza]

I'll be able to announce it on Friday.

[dcprules]

Funny you should bring this up. I just watched this last weekend (I also watched The Firm, too, must have been in a Gene Hackman mood). Great film, good audio, but unfortunately that non-anamorphic transfer is not that great. Really looking forward to hearing about the new edition.

[Patrick Mirza]

http://www.davisdvd.com/images/covers_big/crimsontide.jpg

[slop101]

Oh, so that's who's in that movie - thank God for head-shots!

[digitalfreaknyc]

That's coverart. That's not an announcement.

[Artman]

Woohoo!! Hope we don't have to wait long for it.

:banana:

[Patrick Mirza]

That's coverart. That's not an announcement.
:rolleyes:

I'm waiting on a final press release, but here's what I was sent last week: Crimson Tide will include all-new bonus features including deleted scenes and featurettes, while Titans will come with a commentary track with real-life coaches Herman Boone and Bill Yoast, exclusive featurettes and more.

[Spring Roll]

Oooh OOoh Oohh
How about Enemy of The State?!

Thanks for the infos!

[Artman]

Looks like a March 14th release date. Disney's live-action depts have got to be the slowest at releasing SE's... C'mon guys pick up the pace, esp on the Scott brothers' movies.

[digitalfreaknyc]

Well, i guess i'm just hoping that they're not going to rehash what's been released in other regions for years. Obviously the "extended edition" is different because no one else has had that before. Wasn't there a rumor that Tony Scott had recorded a commentary years ago?

[dx23]

Davisdvd.com is reporting that Buena Vista is going to re-release Crimson Tide in an Unrated Extended Edition on March 14, 2006. More info here:

http://www.davisdvd.com/news/news.html

[cupon]

re-release Crimson Tide in an Unrated Extended Edition

Unrated? wtf?

[jdslater1]

Hopefully this might mean a look at an SE for the last boy scout? Around that time we could be looking at dvd releases of Domino and KissKissBangBang and it would be a nice way to tie them all together. Yes I do know they are different companies but that hasen't stopped them before.

[djtoell]

Unrated? wtf?

It finally restores the long-rumored scene where Denzil experiments with a double-headed dildo.

DJ

[digitalfreaknyc]

It finally restores the long-rumored scene where Denzil experiments with a double-headed dildo.

DJ
:rolleyes:
don't worry, baby. I'm sure in your world that was funny.

[Toben]

Looks like this title has been delayed yet again. DavisDvd now reports that it is due on May 16th, 2006.

[Giles]

Looks like this title has been delayed yet again. DavisDvd now reports that it is due on May 16th, 2006.

maybe it will have a DTS track now ;)

[digitalfreaknyc]

i'm totally convinced it's never happening

[thelwig14]

I hope it is getting delayed to be released simultaneously with The Rock, True Lies, and Armageddon with all of them receiving anamorphic transfers. I like to set myself up for disappointment.

[Skoobooz]

The Rock? Why? There's an excellent Criterion release....

[LBCrazyFool]

The Rock? Why? There's an excellent Criterion release....

It's non-anamorphic though.

[Julie Walker]

The Rock :CC IS 16.9 enhanced...Armageddon : CC is NOT enhanced:)

[thelwig14]

I am idiot. I meant Con Air, not the Rock. I have the Criterion The Rock, and as mentioned, it is enhanced (and has DTS).

[LBCrazyFool]

The Rock :CC IS 16.9 enhanced...Armageddon : CC is NOT enhanced:)

Your right, got 'em mixed up... :)

[Alan Smithee]

Unrated Crimson Tide?? Well, I guess since it's about things that are long and hard and full of sea-men ;)

[digitalfreaknyc]

Unrated Crimson Tide?? Well, I guess since it's about things that are long and hard and full of sea-men ;)

One could only dream...
After all it DOES have Giovanni Ribisi in it.

mmmmmmmmmmmm

[Artman]

Gotta be an Enemy of the State SE coming with it... I hope. This is getting ridiculous.

[CertifiedTHX]

Gotta be an Enemy of the State SE coming with it... I hope. This is getting ridiculous.
Been waiting for this a long time. Refuse to buy non-anamorphic discs. (Sole exception being Scream, but only because it's part of the boxed set.) Won't be surprised if they give us an extended cut, too. Hope it's worth it; I totally dig Enemy of the State in its theatrical incarnation.

--THX

[dvd_luver]

Gotta be an Enemy of the State SE coming with it... I hope. This is getting ridiculous.

Funny thing is this is the one SE I want Buena Vista to release, more than any other, and it hasn't happened yet. Damn shame.

[dx23]

According to thedigitalbits.com, this release has been delayed.

Finally this morning, Disney has delayed the DVD release of the Crimson Tide: Unrated & Extended Edition from 3/14 to 5/16. No word as to why

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

[ShagMan]

Dang delays. But, at least, Enemy of the State is coming on that same day!

[digitalfreaknyc]

You'd think TDB would be able to piece together the clues that the other two Bruckheimer movies are coming out on the same day. ;)

BTW...this is old news. No one posted it here???

[digitalfreaknyc]

Wonder if it's still happening. ;) Why would I question it? Ohh...i dunno. Why not? :)

[Artman]

Yeah, I too am a bit nervious we'll get another delay of some kind... about seven wks to go I think... I don't care what the cover art looks like, I just want a good DVD release for these.... Solid A/V quality, and some decent extras. I just hope the Extended versions aren't too much longer as I think they're fine as is.

[digitalfreaknyc]

One month from today. Why do i STILL not believe it's actually coming out ;)

[Skoobooz]

One month from today. Why do i STILL not believe it's actually coming out ;)

Maybe because there haven't been any specs? Anyone know what's on this thing? How long it is?

[dvd_luver]

This still has a firm release date set for 5/16/06. I will be upgrading for sure.

[wageslave]

Funny story:

My uncle was in the Navy and served as chief of the boat on a Sub. They wouldn't let the guys watch Crimson Tide while they were at sea. Das Boot and the Hunt for Red October were fine, but no Crimson Tide - he was on a fast attack and not a boomer.

[digitalfreaknyc]

Funny story:

My uncle was in the Navy and served as chief of the boat on a Sub. They wouldn't let the guys watch Crimson Tide while they were at sea. Das Boot and the Hunt for Red October were fine, but no Crimson Tide - he was on a fast attack and not a boomer.

That IS funny. Has he seen it since?

[wageslave]

That IS funny. Has he seen it since?

I'm sure he has.

About the Turn into the torpedo trick in the Hunt for Red October... he said you could do it but it "would take a big pair of gonads." He also said that when they showed the USS dallas doing an emergency blow, the sub that they showed wasn't Los Angeles Class but another kind. Soe six pack doesn't know the difference I suppose.

[Snowball]

Does anyone have a clue as to why Amazon has all 3 of Crimson Tide (Unrated), Con Air (Unrated), and Enemy of the State (Unrated) selling for 100% full MSRP of $19.99? I can't believe they would get many buyers at that price...

[dvd_luver]

Because they are Amazon and they suck! - j/k!

I don't know, these 3 will be upgrades for me so I will take my time re-buying them.

[Mr. Cinema]

I thought all Buena Vista titles were priced at full retail at Amazon because there's a problem between these 2 companies.

[Giles]

for awhile they were each around 13 bucks from Amazon, of course, by the time I went around to ordering them, they shot back up to $19.99 - oh well.

[jmj713]

I got them at $12.99 but this trend is disturbing. I was also able to get Delicatessen before it shot back up to $29.99 but I missed The Little Mermaid discount.

[lordwow]

I'm hoping DDD keeps this down at $13 (unlikely) if there were to be another sale. I saw this movie on a plane right after it came out and haven't seen it since, but love Das Boot/Red October/other sub movies.

[SINGLE104]

I'm waiting for this Edition as well. I just sold the old non-anamorphic release, on Ebay a few days ago. A good movie, with two powerful performances from Gene Hackman, and Denzel Washington. Stand head to head.

[digitalfreaknyc]

Any reviews yet? I'm still betting we don't get it ;)

[Rammsteinfan]

Checked out Touchstones website and through their DVD section, it still shows Crimson Tide and Con Air for 5/16. Didnt see this yet unless I missed it but Con Air is now 122 mins (7 mins longer) and Crimson Tide is now 123 mins (also 7 mins longer) at least according to their website. Crimson Tide features listed were • Deleted Scenes Not Shown In Theaters • All Access: "On The Set Of CRIMSON TIDE" Featurette • "The Making Of CRIMSON TIDE" Featurette and nothing for Con Air. Seems fishy that nothing has really been said yet nor a press release.

Also, did the cover change or does that site have an old version?
http://video.movies.go.com/redesign/assets/boxart/large/786936232967DDfsL01.jpg

And best buy has this cover up for Con Air...which i hope is the final one which no longer has the black banner at the bottom.
http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/7734/7734295.jpg

Also noticed in the bargain forum that prices for that week have been posted and at CC both movies will be on sale for $12.99!

[Harold Wazzu]

$12.99 is an awesome price!

The banner was just temporary until they finalized the artwork. I don't understand how they can have more deleted scenes on an extended cut?

[dvd_luver]

I think I am gonna be immediate game for Crimson Tide and Enemy Of The State, Con Air I will upgrade later. Only if I can get them at that price, $12.99.

[eau]

It's funny that they say "deleted scenes not shown in theatres". I wonder since when deleted scenes were shown in theaters :whofart:

[jdslater1]

I have been sent all 3 of these from axelmusic a couple of days ago.

[Rammsteinfan]

I have been sent all 3 of these from axelmusic a couple of days ago.

Do you have them in hand now or are they on their way? Still curious as to what extra features are on Con Air...

[jdslater1]

On their way I'm afraid :sad: hopefully should have them by Wednesday. If no one gets them before me I will post pics and specs.

[Rammsteinfan]

That would be cool. Since they have shipped to you and the prices are soon to be in the ads... guess that means we know they are really coming out.

[dvd_luver]

I have been sent all 3 of these from axelmusic a couple of days ago.

That's it, I am so jealous now, I am calling the DVD cops. Hehe. lol. j/k!

Well, that is really cool, let us know how they are if no reviews post.

[jdslater1]

Actually got them today! very surprised. Here are the covers. I will put specs at the bottom:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/jdslater/DSCF0550.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/jdslater/DSCF0553.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/jdslater/DSCF0556.jpg
Enemy of the State:
2.35.1 ratio
feature approx 140 min.
Crimson Tide:
2.35.1
feature approx 123 mins.
Con Air:
2.35.1
feature approx 122 mins.

[Willh51]

I can't understand why there are no supplements on Con Air, but I was only considering the other two anyway.

[jdslater1]

Whats annoying is on the cover to Crimson Tide is a sub from, what looks like, U571. But I love the trailer to that film, reminds you of the good old days of Bruckheimer. The days of The Rock etc.

[Robert]

So what are the extras on each one?

[jdslater1]

Just put in Con air and it just has some trailers. Reading the back on the others. Crimson tide has All Access on the set of Crimson Tide, The making of Crimson tide featurette. Enemy of the State has a making of... trailer and All Access "The Showdown".
Give me abit of time and I will post some remarks about PQ and the extras after I have a quick look.

[ShagMan]

Whats annoying is on the cover to Crimson Tide is a sub from, what looks like, U571. But I love the trailer to that film, reminds you of the good old days of Bruckheimer. The days of The Rock etc.

Hahaha, how crappy is that!

[jdslater1]

Just watched bits from all discs. First of, all featurettes are vintage ( no surprise really), the pictures are not digitally remastered, in Con Air the fight in the aircraft graveyard has alot of speckles. The picture quality for Enemy... is about the best of the lot. The explosion of the warehouse looks pretty good.

[Filmmaker]

Just put in Con air and it just has some trailers.

When you say CON AIR has "some trailers", are they for CON AIR? The original, non-anamorphic DVD featured the original teaser and theatrical trailer.

[jdslater1]

Just the theatrical, by the way all the DVDs have a forced trailer for POTC2.
WHAT A SHOCK!

[rexinnih]

How about the audio? Just Dolby or is there DTS also?

[digitalfreaknyc]

Are they legitimately 16x9? Wouldn't want another "Ransom" happening...

[DavidH]

Are they legitimately 16x9? Wouldn't want another "Ransom" happening...

I was just going to ask the same thing.

It's ashame the question has to be asked in this day and age.

[jdslater1]

Just normal DD, how would I know about the 16x9, I did put up the ratio earlier!

[Rammsteinfan]

Sweet! Cant wait to get there next week. There are no extras on CON AIR? Not a one???? :(

[jdslater1]

No extras. They at least could have brought over that Action Overload Crap!

[Filmmaker]

Just the theatrical, by the way all the DVDs have a forced trailer for POTC2.
WHAT A SHOCK!

Now I'm confused again--you say only one trailer for CON AIR, but before, you mentioned trailers...or are you including this PotC2 trailer in your number?

[jdslater1]

Ok let me say again! Yes the is ONE trailer for Con Air, the theatrical trailer. The other trailers in the "sneak peak" option are the other unrated films and things like Glory road and some other Bruckheimer stuff.

[digitalfreaknyc]

Just normal DD, how would I know about the 16x9, I did put up the ratio earlier!
Uhh...aspect ratio and being 16x9 are two different things.
we want to know if it's really anamorphic.

[jdslater1]

Like I said, how do I find out? It says enhanced for widescreen televisions.

[tommyp007]

Like I said, how do I find out? It says enhanced for widescreen televisions.

bingo!

[Filmmaker]

Ok let me say again! Yes the is ONE trailer for Con Air, the theatrical trailer. The other trailers in the "sneak peak" option are the other unrated films and things like Glory road and some other Bruckheimer stuff.

No need to get hostile, but thanks for the info. Guess I have to keep my old CON AIR disc along with this one...grumble, grumble...

[jdslater1]

Sorry filmmaker! my bad. Didn't mean to be rude.
Also another odd thing with Enemy and Crimson is that they only have about 10 chapters each! for films over 2 hours long it's weird.

[Rammsteinfan]

As long as Con Air is Anamoprhic and its only $12.99... Im happy. Cant wait to see it again. Any idea what the new footage is?

[jdslater1]

Sorry Rammsteinfan, I only popped it in to see the picture quality and what extras were included. What with work, I might watch it Wednesday night.

[Rammsteinfan]

No prob. Just was curious. If you get around to it that would be great. Ill be checking it out in 7 days regardless.

[jdslater1]

Its weird, none of the DVD covers mention how much extra is added into the film. Just trying to remember if the earlier DVD release has any deleted scenes as a special feature. I think the other 2 did.

[SMART-ASS]

From where are these selling for $12.99????

[The Cow]

From where are these selling for $12.99????
Best Buy and Circuit City

[Filmmaker]

Its weird, none of the DVD covers mention how much extra is added into the film. Just trying to remember if the earlier DVD release has any deleted scenes as a special feature. I think the other 2 did.

Sorry, none of them did.

[rexinnih]

Just normal DD, how would I know about the 16x9, I did put up the ratio earlier!

Thanks for the audio info!

[Giles]

From where are these selling for $12.99????

Best Buy and Circuit City

thanks, now I can cancel my order from Amazon (where they are now selling them for 19.99)

[thelwig14]

3 down, just True Lies, Commando, and Armageddon to go.

[dvd_luver]

Anybody else hope somebody streets these early (CT, EOTS, CA), though the sale price may not apply at all stores. I have some extra pocket change I can blow on these right now. So, I am hoping.......

[Rammsteinfan]

Con AIr review up.... http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=21651

(Extended version "spoilers" may be found in the following ramble:)

Early in the flick, Poe's eventual attacker says something snide about his lovely Tricia -- something nastier than in the theatrical cut. There's also a glimpse of Poe getting arrested that wasn't there before, as well as a sequence in which Baby-O (Mykelti Williamson) rescues Poe from a burning cell during a prison riot. There are some tweaks made to Dave Chappelle's dialogue, and a little extra back-story on how Poe once killed a prison bully called "The Giant." Danny Trejo gets to deliver an extra dose of rapist ugliness, and there's also a semi-pointless conversation between Cusack's & Featherstone's characters. Colm Meaney gets an extra moment to ruminate over the death of his DEA agent, Cage shares a few extra words with prison guard Bishop, Garland (Buscemi) gets to kill a guard (off-camera, but unexpected!), and Bishop shares a quick exchange with con-pilot Swamp Thing. There's also a moment of looting when the cons land at Lerner Field, and a good deal of extra interplay between Poe and his buddy Baby-O.

The theatrical cut of Con Air runs 115 minutes; this one goes for 122.

[bunkaroo]

I find it odd that Enemy Of The State does not mention being unrated and extended except for the sticker all three have. Con Air and Crimson Tide mention in on their own packaging as well as the sticker. The runtime does show as 8 minutes longer.

[Dane]

Any review up for Enemy of the State?

[pilot]

Any review up for Enemy of the State?
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=21664

[digitalfreaknyc]

Any for Crimson Tide? This is the only one of the group I care about.

[pilot]

Any for Crimson Tide? This is the only one of the group I care about.
not yet..Scott is also reviewing it but it's not done yet..soon I think :)

[Rammsteinfan]

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=21675 Crimson Tide review up...

It was funny to see the old cover for the 98 dvd. I forgot about those horrid purple wide screen banners these films had on them. Now if they would only re-release Deep Rising in 16x9 or even uncut! Damn you Buena Vista.

[rexinnih]

Glad I held off buying the original release on this one. Tuesday, here we come!

[DJariya]

I read somewhere that Tony Scott supposedly recorded an audio commentary for Crimson Tide. Was there any truth to that rumor? I wonder why it wasn't included on this set.

[digitalfreaknyc]

I read somewhere that Tony Scott supposedly recorded an audio commentary for Crimson Tide. Was there any truth to that rumor? I wonder why it wasn't included on this set.

HTF.

And that was a while ago. Years ago I think.

[Giles]

it's really too bad Buena Vista Home Video isn't consistant with it's inclusion of DTS audio - DTS for 'Chronicles of Narnia', yet not for 'Crimson Tide' (even the theatrical cut for it's laserdisc release had a stellar DTS track)... oh well.

[digitalfreaknyc]

it's really too bad Buena Vista Home Video isn't consistant with it's inclusion of DTS audio - DTS for 'Chronicles of Narnia', yet not for 'Crimson Tide' (even the theatrical cut for it's laserdisc release had a stellar DTS track)... oh well.

DTS can be found in other regions. Unfortunately, without a 16x9 transfer.

[Giles]

DTS can be found in other regions. Unfortunately, without a 16x9 transfer.

of the extended version?...

[digitalfreaknyc]

of the extended version?...

Nope.

[Dean Kousoulas]

Picking up Con Air and maybe Crimson Tide today...

[Rammsteinfan]

Just got CA and CT today. Glad to see the ugly black banner at the bottom gone from CA.

[filmfreak]

I was on the fence about ConAir, but I passed...it's just too silly for me. I did pick up unrated copies of EoS and CT.

[SINGLE104]

I was on the fence about ConAir, but I passed...it's just too silly for me. I did pick up unrated copies of EoS and CT.
Con Air was silly, but it was a fun action movie to watch, I liked it. I decided to purchased all three DVDs today.

[digitalfreaknyc]

can you believe that the contents of this disc have been out for YEARS in other regions. I just popped the DVD in the player and it's even got the same friggin animated menu.

I wonder how long they were sitting on this.

[Rammsteinfan]

At least they came with Inserts... lol