<body bgcolor="white" text="black" link="blue" vlink="purple" alink="red"><table border="1" width="735"> <tr> <td width="279"> <p align="center"><b>Matchups</b></p> </td> <td width="217"> <p align="center"><b>Line (as of 11/14)</b></p> </td> <td width="217"> <p align="center"><b>Time and Day</b></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>BOWLING GREEN AT MIAMI OHIO</p> </td> <td width="217">Miami (OH) -10.0</td> <td width="217">7:00 pm Tuesday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p> OHIO AT AKRON</p> </td> <td width="217">Akron -3.0</td> <td width="217">7:30 pm Tuesday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p> NORTHERN ILL AT TOLEDO </p> </td> <td width="217">Toledo -7.5</td> <td width="217">7:30 pm Wednesday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>BOSTON COLLEGE AT MARYLAND</p> </td> <td width="217">Boston College -2.5</td> <td width="217">12:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>PURDUE AT INDIANA</p> </td> <td width="217">Purdue -13.0</td> <td width="217">12:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>NORTHWESTERN AT ILLINOIS</p> </td> <td width="217">Northwestern -14.5</td> <td width="217">12:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>MINNESOTA AT IOWA</p> </td> <td width="217">Iowa -4.0</td> <td width="217">12:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>CENTRAL MICH AT BALL ST </p> </td> <td width="217">Central Michigan -4.0</td> <td width="217">12:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>CINCINNATI AT SOUTH FLORIDA</p> </td> <td width="217">South Florida -18.5</td> <td width="217">12:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>VIRGINIA TECH AT VIRGINIA</p> </td> <td width="217">Va Tech -7.0</td> <td width="217">12:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>ARKANSAS ST AT ARMY</p> </td> <td width="217">Army -7.0</td> <td width="217">12:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>OKLAHOMA AT TEXAS TECH</p> </td> <td width="217">Texas Tech -7.5</td> <td width="217">12:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>KENTUCKY AT GEORGIA</p> </td> <td width="217">Georgia -27.5 </td> <td width="217">12:30 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>VANDERBILT AT TENNESSEE </p> </td> <td width="217">Tennessee -12.0</td> <td width="217">12:30 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>DUKE AT NORTH CAROLINA </p> </td> <td width="217">North Carolina -25.0</td> <td width="217">1:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"><p>OHIO ST AT MICHIGAN</p> </td> <td width="217">Ohio St -3.0</td> <td width="217">1:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"><p>MIDDLE TENN ST AT NC STATE</p> </td> <td width="217">NC State -17.5</td> <td width="217">1:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr><td width="279"> <p>TEMPLE AT NAVY</p> </td> <td width="217">Navy -27.5</td> <td width="217">1:30 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>EASTERN MICHIGAN AT BUFFALO</p> </td> <td width="217">Eastern Michigan -4.5</td><td width="217">1:30 pm Saturday</td></tr><tr> <td width="279"> <p>MISSISSIPPI ST AT ARKANSAS</p> </td> <td width="217">Arkansas -13.5</td> <td width="217">2:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"><p>OKLAHOMA ST AT BAYLOR</p> </td> <td width="217">Baylor -3.0</td> <td width="217">2:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>TULSA VS TULANE</p> </td> <td width="217">Tulsa -14.0</td> <td width="217">2:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>MISSOURI AT KANSAS ST</p> </td> <td width="217">Kansas St. -1.0</td> <td width="217">2:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"><p>SYRACUSE AT NOTRE DAME</p> </td> <td width="217">Notre Dame -34.5</td> <td width="217">2:30 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>AIR FORCE AT NEW MEXICO</p> </td> <td width="217">New Mexico -13.0</td> <td width="217">2:30 pm Saturday</td> </tr><tr> <td width="279"> <p>CENTRAL FLORIDA AT RICE </p> </td> <td width="217">Central Florida -10.5</td> <td width="217">3:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>IDAHO AT BOISE ST</p> </td> <td width="217">Boise St -31.0</td> <td width="217">3:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>UTAH AT BYU</p> </td> <td width="217">Utah -11.0</td> <td width="217">3:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>NEVADA AT UTAH ST </p> </td> <td width="217">Nevada -9.5</td> <td width="217">3:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p> WASHINGTON ST AT WASHINGTON</p> </td> <td width="217">Washington St -3.0</td> <td width="217">3:15 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>ALABAMA AT AUBURN</p> </td> <td width="217">Auburn -7.0</td> <td width="217">3:30 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>COLORADO ST AT UNLV</p> </td> <td width="217">Colorado St -14.5</td> <td width="217">4:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>PENN STATE AT MICHIGAN ST</p> </td> <td width="217">Penn State -7.0</td> <td width="217">4:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>EAST CAROLINA AT MARSHALL</p> </td> <td width="217">Marshall -6.5</td> <td width="217">4:30 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>UAB AT TEXAS EL PASO</p> </td> <td width="217">UTEP -8.0</td> <td width="217">6:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>NEW MEXICO ST AT SAN JOSE ST</p> </td> <td width="217">San Jose St. -6.5</td> <td width="217">6:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>SMU AT HOUSTON</p> </td> <td width="217">Not Yet Available</td> <td width="217">6:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>OREGON ST AT OREGON</p> </td> <td width="217">Oregon -13.5</td> <td width="217">6:45 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>CLEMSON AT SOUTH CAROLINA </p> </td> <td width="217">Clemson -1.0</td> <td width="217">7:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>CALIFORNIA AT STANFORD</p> </td> <td width="217">California -3.5</td> <td width="217">7:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>UL MONROE AT NORTH TEXAS</p> </td> <td width="217">UL Monroe -4.5</td> <td width="217">7:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>LSU AT MISSISSIPPI </p> </td> <td width="217">LSU -16.5</td> <td width="217">7:45 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>GEORGIA TECH AT MIAMI (FL)</p> </td> <td width="217">Miami (FL) -17.0</td> <td width="217">7:45 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>WYOMING AT SAN DIEGO ST</p> </td> <td width="217">SDSU -7.0</td> <td width="217">8:00 pm Saturday</td> </tr> <tr> <td width="279"> <p>FRESNO ST AT USC </p> </td> <td width="217">USC -24.0</td> <td width="217">10:15 pm Saturday</td> </tr></table><p> </p></body></html>
Bill Geiger
11-16-05, 05:37 AM
Final
Bowling Green 42
Miami (OHIO) 14
Falcons score record-tying three safeties
Final
Ohio 3
Akron 27
Daryl
11-16-05, 10:07 AM
The Michigan-Ohio State game Nov. 19 will not be shown by ABC on the West Coast because of FCC regulations that limit the number of times Saturday morning children's programming can be preempted.
Because of this, ESPN will carry the game for the 30% of the nation that will not be able to see it on ABC. :lol:
Quake1028
11-16-05, 01:05 PM
Who the hell let Daryl out of his cage before Saturday :mad:?
Daryl
11-16-05, 01:22 PM
rotfl I got early parole since I'll be at the game Saturday and probably will be too crushed to post afterwards!
It looks like Saturday is gonna be cold, windy, and rainy in Ann Arbor, so I'm leaning on the under. I thought Michigan +3 was a gift, then I actually starting doing the research. Man, OSU is the better team in practically every stat. This could get ugly.
Pharoh
11-16-05, 07:06 PM
Go Spartans!
Quake1028
11-16-05, 07:56 PM
Go Spartans!
For OSU's sake, hope for a Penn St. win ;).
Pharoh
11-16-05, 08:03 PM
For OSU's sake, hope for a Penn St. win ;).
:lol:
I actually want Notre Dame. I admit it would be an easier game.
;)
The sportsbooks made a ton of money tonight. The line in the NIU/Toledo game opened at Toledo -7.5 and moved as high as -11.5. NIU won by 17:lol:
das Monkey
11-17-05, 12:57 AM
I didn't have the guts to take the moneyline, so I parlayed NIU to cover with an over of 52. I still win the cover, but all those damn dropped passes at the end of the game killed a much bigger payday. :grunt:
das
Bill Geiger
11-17-05, 04:49 PM
I always pick NIU....no matter what! Was surprised that the line was as big as it was. I figured the over would be gold though given the two teams playing.
das Monkey
11-17-05, 05:41 PM
No Thursday Night Football makes Baby Jesus cry. :sad:
das
Red Dog
11-18-05, 11:24 AM
National TV Schedule and Announcers:
Nov. 19 Sat. VA Tech @ Virginia Noon ESPN Jones/Spielman
Nov. 19 Sat. Minnesota @ Iowa Noon ESPN2 Ward/Norrie
Nov. 19 Sat. Oklahoma @ Texas Tech Noon FSN Goodman/Lapham
Nov. 19 Sat. Northwestern @ Illinois Noon GP (Ch. 775)
Nov. 19 Sat. Cincinnati @ USF Noon GP (Ch. 776)
Nov. 19 Sat. Boston College @ Maryland Noon JP Martin/Walker
Nov. 19 Sat. Arkansas State @ Army Noon ESPNU
Nov. 19 Sat. Cal @ Stanford 7:00 p.m. ABC/GP (Ch. 777)
Nov. 19 Sat. Clemson @ South Carolina 7:00 p.m. GP (Ch. 778) Pasche/Gilmore/Matich
Nov. 19 Sat. GA Tech @ Miami, Fla 7:45 p.m. ESPN Franklin/Davie
Nov. 19 Sat. LSU @ Ole Miss 7:45 p.m. ESPN2 Collins/Ware
Nov. 19 Sat. Wyoming @ San Diego State 8:00 p.m. GP (Ch. 775)
Nov. 19 Sat. Memphis @ Southern Miss 8:30 p.m. CSTV
Nov. 19 Sat. Fresno St @ Southern California 10:15 p.m. FSN Tompkins/Papadakis
The Cow
11-18-05, 11:33 AM
Musburger doing the OSU/Mich game -ohbfrank-
Red Dog
11-18-05, 11:42 AM
Musburger doing the OSU/Mich game -ohbfrank-
Who else did you expect - he's been doing Big 10+1 games all season.
Josh H
11-18-05, 01:02 PM
Here's a pretty good write up on the WVU-Pitt Rivalry. Have to agree with the author that the rivalry is severly underated. These two schools players, coaches, students and fans loathe each other just as much, if not more than the Auburn-Alabama, Michigan-Ohio St etc. rivalries that get more national attention.
MORGANTOWN, W.Va. – When you’ve played the same school 97 times including the last 61 years in a row the game has to be considered somewhat important. And of course that is the case with West Virginia’s annual football tussle with Pitt that has become known as the “Backyard Brawl.”
West Virginia quarterb ack jeff Hostetler withstands a fierce Pitt rush to get off a pass in this 1982 game at Pitt Stadium.
Photo taken from Pitt Stadium Memories: 1925-1999
The moniker ‘Backyard Brawl’ can be traced back to at least the mid 1960s and in addition to describing a very tough, hard-hitting football game between the Mills and the Mines, it has also come to symbolize one of college football’s most underrated football rivalries. In these parts, with the two schools just 75 miles apart and each fighting for the same high school football players, it is every bit as important as Ohio State-Michigan or Oklahoma-Texas. Yet for a number of reasons, the West Virginia-Pitt game isn’t quite viewed in the same light nationally.
“The thing about Michigan-Ohio State is that it has always been so widely publicized,” said former Pitt coach Foge Fazio, today doing analysis for The Westwood One Radio Network. “Both of those institutions are so damned big and the Big Ten has had a great reputation long before when we were both still independents.”
Don Nehlen, West Virginia’s coach from 1980-2000 and a former Michigan assistant, got a first-hand look at the Ohio State-Michigan series. He offers this view, “I don’t think (the Backyard Brawl) has quite the national implications that the Michigan-Ohio State has, but from a coaching standpoint it is exactly the same.”
As Fazio and Nehlen mentioned, the reasons are varied. Until recently West Virginia and Pitt weren’t members of the same conference so the games didn’t have quite the same allure as say Southern Cal playing UCLA for the Pac-10 title. Another inhibiting factor was the fact that the “Backyard Brawl” was played in the middle of the season instead of at the end of the year like it is now.
And until 1962, the games were mostly played in Pittsburgh, which is one of the reasons why Pitt has accumulated such a big margin in the overall series record (59-35-3 entering this year). During one stretch from 1910 to 1929, the Panthers only ventured to Morgantown once and then during another period later traveled to West Virginia just six times from 1935-62. Because Pitt was considered a national program in the 1930s and 1940s, that was probably the only way West Virginia could play them.
Because of that, in the eyes of Pitt supporters the West Virginia game was – at least for many years – considered more of a warm-up to the real game at the end of the year against Penn State. Examine any Golden Panther hit list from 30-40 years ago and they had West Virginia as far down as No. 3 behind Penn State and Notre Dame.
When he took over the Panther program in 1982, Fazio tried to explain to Pitt boosters that Don Nehlen was building a pretty good football program down in Morgantown.
“Whenever I was coaching there we had Penn State,” said Fazio. “A lot of people thought, well, we’re going to beat West Virginia and there is nothing to worry about there. Let’s worry about Notre Dame and Penn State – not so much the players and coaches, but the fans and the boosters who seem to buy into what they read.”
One of Nehlen’s first objectives when he came to West Virginia in 1980 was to transform the “Backyard Brawl” into more than just a one-sided affair. Since upsetting the Panthers, 17-14, in Morgantown in 1975, West Virginia lost subsequent games by scores of 24-16, 44-3, 52-7, 24-17, 42-14 and 17-0. The series wasn’t becoming a broken record -- it was a broken record.
“They were at the top of the mountain and we were trying to catch them,” Nehlen said.
Before every Pitt game the coach began telling his team a little story about climbing out of the well and each time they were about to get out of that well there was a Pitt Panther standing at the top trying to knock them back down in. Without deviating one single word, it’s the same story he told every player he ever recruited to West Virginia. All of them can recite Nehlen’s little Pitt Panther fable word for word.
“He’s probably telling that story to somebody right now,” laughed former linebacker Darryl Talley, Nehlen’s first consensus All-American in 1982.
The message was simple: Pitt was the enemy and you better strap your helmets on tight when you play the Panthers because they aren’t going to give you an inch.
The second important thing Nehlen decided to do was get his team stronger. Nehlen told his strength coach Dave Van Halanger that he wasn’t necessarily opposed to him fudging the numbers to make the players appear stronger – just as long as they thought they were getting stronger.
“I had linemen that could run five miles and couldn’t bench press 200 pounds,” Nehlen said. “I’m playing Pitt and Penn State. I told Dave, ‘I don’t give a damn if these kids can run from here to the refrigerator, we’ve got to increase their strength by 30 percent or we’re going to get killed.’”
By 1982, Nehlen had a team strong and confident enough to play with Pitt. The Mountaineers opened the year by winning at Oklahoma and they also beat a very good Maryland team led by quarterback Boomer Esiason.
“I thought we could play on the same field with them but then again you’re talking to somebody who has never been in a fight that he thought he was going to lose,” said Talley.
Pitt won the ‘82 game, 16-13, scoring all 16 of its points in the fourth quarter, but it was evident to the 57,000 fans at Pitt Stadium that Saturday afternoon that West Virginia football had come of age.
“We should have won the game,” Nehlen said afterward.
West Virginia did finally beat Pitt a year later in Morgantown, and has won 13 of the last 22 games in recent play that includes two ties. Because of what Don Nehlen started in 1980, West Virginia today is much more than just a nuisance to the Pitt Panthers.
“From 1982 on, this football program joined the upper echelon of college football and we’ve been able to maintain it to a decent degree ever since,” said Nehlen.
Of course today the “Backyard Brawl” today is no longer a one-sided affair. In fact, the two team's records over the last 50 years is an identical 24-24-2. And that is as competitive as you can get.
"There is no question this is our big game; it always probably has been but I think with the restructuring of the Big East with new teams coming in and old teams going out the one constant has always been Pitt-West Virginia," said Pittsburgh coach Dave Wannstedt.
RayChuang
11-19-05, 01:21 AM
Because of this, ESPN will carry the game for the 30% of the nation that will not be able to see it on ABC. :lol:
According to the ESPN GamePlan web page, the situation with the Ohio State @ Michigan game is that if you're watching normal ESPN on the West Coast, you will get the first hour of Virginia Tech @ Virginia from 9 to 10 am PST then you will be switched to Ohio State/Michigan.
However, do be aware of the following:
1. Both DirecTV and Dish Network will show the Virginia Tech @ Virginia in full on their primary ESPN channels. Both satellite services will use their alternate ESPN channels (DirecTV Channel 210 and Dish Network Channel 145) to show the Ohio State @ Michigan game in full.
2. West Coast viewers can also watch Virginia Tech @ Virginia in full on ESPN GamePlan Online broadband Internet streaming video service.
3. Check with your local cable provider on whether they will show both games on the cable service. Showing both programs is likely if you have digital cable service, but for analog cable some systems could show both games and some won't (the ones that can't show both games will use the ESPN cable system feed, which means Virginia Tech @ Virginia from 9 to 10 am PST and Ohio State @ Michigan starting at 10 am PST).
"I wouldn't want to ruin Penn St.'s season by helping Michigan" - Michigan St. QB Drew Stanton
Quake1028
11-19-05, 12:14 PM
My picks:
USC/Fresno St. - USC
Alabama/Auburn - Aubie
Penn St./Michigan St. - Penn St.
Michigan/Ohio St. - Michigan
Texas Tech/Oklahoma - Texas Tech
Clemson/South Carolina - South Carolina
Oregon/Oregon St. - Oregon
Miami/Georgia Tech - Miami
Good day of football on tv. Good games at 12, 1, 4, 7:45 and 10:15 :).
brizz
11-19-05, 12:33 PM
what is this 1pm and 4pm start time shit? :angry:
brizz
11-19-05, 01:10 PM
OSU moving early.....looks pretty good. Ginn down to the MI 42.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 01:14 PM
The red zone is like kryptonite for the Terps today.
brizz
11-19-05, 01:15 PM
Touchdown Buckeyes....pretty easy drive there.
brizz
11-19-05, 01:16 PM
Missed the xp! :lol:
6-0.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 01:16 PM
Missed the xp! :lol:
6-0.
Could be huge in a FG game.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 01:24 PM
Somebody painted a "T" next to the "V" on the UVA field overnight. :lol:
Quake1028
11-19-05, 01:30 PM
Somebody painted a "T" next to the "V" on the UVA field overnight. :lol:
I saw that :lol:. Beamer told his team it was an inside job. If it was, it's not working.
brizz
11-19-05, 01:39 PM
Carpenter on crutches for the Buckeyes....and crying.
brizz
11-19-05, 01:41 PM
OSU 9
UoM 0
Harvard - Yale is on WGN :lol:
MrX
11-19-05, 01:42 PM
Vandy up 21-7 on Fat Phil and the Vols:lol:
brizz
11-19-05, 01:43 PM
Geez....Iowa is destroying Minnesota - 38-7 at the half.
Ginn and Holmes are trying to do WAY too much on these punt returns. That's 3 drops so far.
Josh H
11-19-05, 03:10 PM
Terps QBs. :lol:
BC runs an INT back for a TD to make it 31-16, then Statham comes in an throws another TD on the first play. :lol:
Go NC State next week! Would be tickled pink so see Friedgen sitting at home on his fat ass during bowl season again this year. :D
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:16 PM
TD Michigan! First lead of the day, 17-12 pending XP.
Actually they go for 2 and make it, 18-12.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:28 PM
OSU misses a FG, still 18-12.
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 03:34 PM
Mississippi State 3 Arkansas 41 at halftime
I know y'all were all dying to know ;)
joshd2012
11-19-05, 03:34 PM
VT shows that the Miami game was the exception, not the rule.
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 03:40 PM
Come on Vandy get the ball back and end Fat Phil U's bowl hopes
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:40 PM
VT shows that the Miami game was the exception, not the rule.
No, it shows that Miami was the best team they played all year. Virginia had no chance of beating them.
Michigan up 21-12 now.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 03:41 PM
Terps QBs. :lol:
BC runs an INT back for a TD to make it 31-16, then Statham comes in an throws another TD on the first play. :lol:
Go NC State next week! Would be tickled pink so see Friedgen sitting at home on his fat ass during bowl season again this year. :D
Not Hollenbach's best day that's for sure. They killed themselves with the turnovers.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 03:42 PM
No, it shows that Miami was the best team they played all year. Virginia had no chance of beating them.
Michigan up 21-12 now.
Yeah - I was going to say that it proves that VT can beat the okay-and-worse teams.
Anyhoo, Hokie fans have to be happy with what is happening in Ann Arbor right now.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:43 PM
Tech wins on the final play! Will be looked at I am sure.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 03:44 PM
Lehigh up on Lafayette 13-10.
...in case anyone is interested besides me. :D
If it isn't Patriot League hoops, no. :)
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:44 PM
Those replays are such a clusterfuck, I don't know if they can overturn it.
brizz
11-19-05, 03:45 PM
wow...nice run by Smith to get the 1st down.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:45 PM
Touchdown! Texas Tech beats OU on the final play!
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:45 PM
TD Bucks.
brizz
11-19-05, 03:46 PM
TD Buckeyes!
Oh jesus fuck....they're calling a celebration dive - what a crock of shit.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 03:46 PM
Celebration dive penalties. :down:
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:47 PM
I like them. The celebrating in football is getting to a ridiculous level.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:47 PM
Aubie 7
(Screw) Bama 0
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 03:47 PM
just like that Bama is down 7-0 :up:
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 03:49 PM
I like them. The celebrating in football is getting to a ridiculous level. -ohbfrank-
Yeah fun is bad
I say screw the NCAA Nazi's and that rule
brizz
11-19-05, 03:50 PM
fuck that shit. he was running to the endzone with defenders coming from both sides of him and he dove in. so fucking what if they were a couple of yards away. Stupidest fucking penalty on earth.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 03:50 PM
Come on Vandy get the ball back and end Fat Phil U's bowl hopes
There you go.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:50 PM
-ohbfrank-
Yeah fun is bad
I say screw the NCAA Nazi's and that rule
It's not that at all, I'm just tired of seeing guys acting like they won the Super Bowl when they make a routine tackle.
brizz
11-19-05, 03:51 PM
I like them. The celebrating in football is getting to a ridiculous level.
Bullshit. They can't high five each other without getting a penalty in college ball. it's fucking stupid.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:51 PM
fuck that shit. he was running to the endzone with defenders coming from both sides of him and he dove in. so fucking what if they were a couple of yards away. Stupidest fucking penalty on earth.
You wouldn't be biased at all, would you ;)?
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 03:51 PM
:lol:
Tenn is gonna lose to Vanderbilt which will be their 6th loss and no bowl :up:
How's that feel Fulmer, you fat bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
das Monkey
11-19-05, 03:51 PM
Fuck you, Mike Leach. I hope you get nut cancer.
das
Red Dog
11-19-05, 03:52 PM
fuck that shit. he was running to the endzone with defenders coming from both sides of him and he dove in. so fucking what if they were a couple of yards away. Stupidest fucking penalty on earth.
Yep. There should be no penalty if the play is still going/clock running. Now if someone does a TO dance or something like that after a score/play in college, fine, flag it.
brizz
11-19-05, 03:52 PM
It's not that at all, I'm just tired of seeing guys acting like they won the Super Bowl when they make a routine tackle.
problem is they don't call penalties for that. only for celebrating a touchdown. god forbid you should be happy for scoring in a big game. you're talking about two completely different things.
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 03:53 PM
It's not that at all, I'm just tired of seeing guys acting like they won the Super Bowl when they make a routine tackle.
I guess Miami players never do that? :rolleyes:
It's the worst rule in sports
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:53 PM
Fuck you, Mike Leach. I hope you get nut cancer.
das
-ohbfrank-
So, did you have Tech to cover, or OU to win outright?
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:54 PM
I guess Miami players never do that? :rolleyes:
It's the worst rule in sports
Where did I say that?
das Monkey
11-19-05, 03:54 PM
I had Over 27.5 2nd half and he took a knee instead of kicking the PAT. I don't want him to die, just nut cancer. He already has 4 kids anyway.
das
brizz
11-19-05, 03:55 PM
You wouldn't be biased at all, would you ;)?
:hscratch:
uhm, no? I don't care who wins this....but I do care when refs make stupid fucking calls that can have a significant impact on very important games.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 03:55 PM
I had Over 27.5 2nd half and he took a knee instead of kicking the PAT. I don't want him to die, just nut cancer.
das
So I imagine it was 27 points scored?
brizz
11-19-05, 03:59 PM
let me guess....Auburn Alabama is on CBS?
funny.....The Preacher's Wife is on here.
fucking fuckholes
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:00 PM
Tennessee 4-5 :lol:. No bowl for them, right?
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:00 PM
let me guess....Auburn Alabama is on CBS?
funny.....The Preacher's Wife is on here.
fucking fuckholes
Yep. What the fuck is wrong with your CBS station?
Aubie is up 14-0 now.
brizz
11-19-05, 04:01 PM
fatso going for a loooong fg.
then pooches it out of bounds at the 12.
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 04:01 PM
Tennessee 4-5 :lol:. No bowl for them, right?
4-6 and no bowl
brizz
11-19-05, 04:02 PM
Yep. What the fuck is wrong with your CBS station?
Aubie is up 14-0 now.
I have no idea...i simply don't understand it.
brizz
11-19-05, 04:02 PM
fuckheads never did acknowledge my email last week.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:03 PM
4-6 and no bowl
That makes me tingly inside. We can all agree on that :).
I have no idea...i simply don't understand it.
Do they ever show games?
MrX
11-19-05, 04:06 PM
fuck that shit. he was running to the endzone with defenders coming from both sides of him and he dove in. so fucking what if they were a couple of yards away. Stupidest fucking penalty on earth.
They were confused and thought it was UM that had a chance to go to a BCS game.
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 04:08 PM
rotfl 21-0 Auburn :lol:
I could've scored through that hole
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:08 PM
let me guess....Auburn Alabama is on CBS?
funny.....The Preacher's Wife is on here.
fucking fuckholes
Doesn't matter now - the game is over.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:09 PM
Wow, what a catch!
MrX
11-19-05, 04:10 PM
Let's hope Daryl is drunk enough to charge the field and attack Carr:)
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:11 PM
Let's see if Michigan is smart enough to let them score.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:12 PM
Let's see if Michigan is smart enough to let them score.
Apparently not.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:12 PM
Let's see if Michigan is smart enough to let them score.
Not yet.
brizz
11-19-05, 04:12 PM
I actually just managed to get the news anchor for local cbs on the phone and he said that they don't show football because "that's 3 1/2 hours we can't sell advertising and it would preempt the 6 o'clock news which is the most watched news program in Northern Michigan." He then gave me the voice mail of the station manager and I left a long litany of complaints and voiced my displeasure quite sternly.
That has to be the stupidest fucking thing i've ever heard. They preempt an entire football game to sell a few ads to a local muffler shop and be able to air the most awesomest news coverage at 6 exactly on a Saturday. Fucking amazing.
Toad
11-19-05, 04:12 PM
Boy, all it takes is a few blown calls and some help from the refs, and you look like a "great" team two weeks in a row!
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:13 PM
OSU scores. Michigan will have a couple of plays.
brizz
11-19-05, 04:13 PM
touchdown Buckeyes! 24 seconds to go.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:13 PM
I actually just managed to get the news anchor for local cbs on the phone and he said that they don't show football because "that's 3 1/2 hours we can't sell advertising and it would preempt the 6 o'clock news which is the most watched news program in Northern Michigan." He then gave me the voice mail of the station manager and I left a long litany of complaints and voiced my displeasure quite sternly.
That has to be the stupidest fucking thing i've ever heard. They preempt an entire football game to sell a few ads to a local muffler shop and be able to air the most awesomest news coverage at 6 exactly on a Saturday. Fucking amazing.
:lol: That's brutal.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:14 PM
No 2 point conversion. Michigan will need a miracle.
brizz
11-19-05, 04:14 PM
Do they ever show games?
i know they aired some early in the year, but I was busy for a couple weekends and don't recall noticing mid season - but definately not the last three weeks.
Toad
11-19-05, 04:14 PM
I actually just managed to get the news anchor for local cbs on the phone and he said that they don't show football because "that's 3 1/2 hours we can't sell advertising and it would preempt the 6 o'clock news which is the most watched news program in Northern Michigan." He then gave me the voice mail of the station manager and I left a long litany of complaints and voiced my displeasure quite sternly.
That has to be the stupidest fucking thing i've ever heard. They preempt an entire football game to sell a few ads to a local muffler shop and be able to air the most awesomest news coverage at 6 exactly on a Saturday. Fucking amazing.
a) you must live in a small market to be able to land the news anchor on the phone
b) which game do you want? is it a midwest game? no? welcome to local broadcast
c) it's all about money
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:17 PM
I can't imagine they can't sell commercials for a college football game.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:17 PM
Stupid fucking throw and catch, can't do that. Idiots.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:17 PM
What a dumbass. :lol:
brizz
11-19-05, 04:17 PM
:lol: what the fuck was that guy thinking turning it inside?
Toad
11-19-05, 04:17 PM
Absolutely, but it still preempts their money-maker --- local news.
shizawn
11-19-05, 04:18 PM
omg what a retard. :lol:
Toad
11-19-05, 04:18 PM
"Oh wait, we called a timeout....um....that sack doesn't count. Yeah...that's the ticket."
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:18 PM
Anyhoo, Hokie fans have to be happy with what is happening in Ann Arbor right now.
So much for that.
Well, on the bright side, Hokie fans, you'll get to see them beat up on one of the Sisters of the Poor teams from the Big Least in the Gator Bowl. :lol:
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:19 PM
:lol: what the fuck was that guy thinking turning it inside?
What the fuck was Henne doing throwing it and what the fuck did that idiot even catch it for?
Josh H
11-19-05, 04:20 PM
Well, on the bright side, Hokie fans, you'll get to see them beat up on one of the Sisters of the Poor teams from the Big Least in the Gator Bowl. :lol:
That will probably be Louisville, by no means a push over.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:20 PM
So much for that.
Well, on the bright side, Hokie fans, you'll get to see them beat up on one of the Sisters of the Poor teams from the Big Least in the Gator Bowl. :lol:
VaTech still has the inside track to get an at large bid, don't they?
brizz
11-19-05, 04:20 PM
a) you must live in a small market to be able to land the news anchor on the phone
b) which game do you want? is it a midwest game? no? welcome to local broadcast
c) it's all about money
a) it's the weekend anchor, i went through the menu and got transferred to the news office - he's probably the only fucking guy there on a saturday afternoon - you know, getting that awesome news program ready.
b) It's a NATIONALLY TELEVISED GAME. I see commercials for it all week. I don't care who it is...it's akin to a local ABC channel in the South showing a movie instead of MNF because it's San Diego and Seattle.
c) yes...and they should be losing plenty for not adhering to the Station's national programming. I see local ads during national broadcasts all the time. it's a bullshit excuse.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:21 PM
That will probably be Louisville, by no means a push over.
You mean the team that got crushed by South Florida? Okay. :lol:
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 04:21 PM
Absolutely, but it still preempts their money-maker --- local news.
30 minutes of news versus 3 1/2 hours of football?
I say BS
CBS should step in and say if you're not gonna show any of our games then piss off we'll take our network to another station
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:23 PM
VaTech still has the inside track to get an at large bid, don't they?
Well there will be no automatic at-large this year. It will probably be up to the Fiesta to pick who they want and I suspect they would opt for a once-beaten OSU over anyone else.
brizz
11-19-05, 04:23 PM
30 minutes of news versus 3 1/2 hours of football?
I say BS
CBS should step in and say if you're not gonna show any of our games then piss off we'll take our network to another station
yep. how many viewers do you think they get showing infomercials for two hours vs. an important football game? I've complained to CBS itself as well.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:23 PM
You mean the team that got crushed by South Florida? Okay. :lol:
South Florida has turned out to be a pretty good team.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:23 PM
Well there will be no automatic at-large this year. It will probably be up to the Fiesta to pick who they want and I suspect they would opt for a once-beaten OSU over anyone else.
You mean the team that got crushed by South Florida? Okay. :lol:
That was a one game fluke. And South Florida is a decent team, just got off to a slow start.
With their offense, Louisville can play with pretty much anyone as long as they show up.
09/04 at Kentucky W 31-24
09/17 Oregon St W 63-27
09/24 at S Florida L 45-14
10/01 FAU W 61-10
10/08 UNC W 69-14
10/15 at W Virginia L 46-44
10/22 at Cincy W 46-22
11/03 Pittsburgh W 42-20
11/11 Rutgers W 56-5
And Miami showed VT's defense is far from infallible.
Pharoh
11-19-05, 04:25 PM
Just got a moment to post. Wow.
I have been the biggest critic of Troy Smith this year, particularly his crap play in the Penn State game, but his last couple of drives were simply fantastic football. The plays he made can not be coached. He won this game for OSU.
:up:
:banana:
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:25 PM
That would be fine, except OSU lost twice.
Oh yeah. Well, it is still the Fiesta's option, and haven't most projections indicated OSU in the Fiesta?
Toad
11-19-05, 04:25 PM
30 minutes of news versus 3 1/2 hours of football?
I say BS
CBS should step in and say if you're not gonna show any of our games then piss off we'll take our network to another station
Not the way it works. Affiliates have control over what they show and what they don't. Local news is the biggest moneymaker of all for most, if not all, local affiliates. Their logic isn't "BS" as you and brizz so eloquently put it -- it's that most people in northern Michigan (brizz won't say which city) don't care about a redneck grudgematch in Alabama. I am positive that Mr. Brizz can head to a local bar and pickup the game on satellite instead of bitching about it on DVDTalk.com.
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 04:26 PM
09/04 at Kentucky W 31-24
09/17 Oregon St W 63-27
09/24 at S Florida L 45-14
10/01 FAU W 61-10
10/08 UNC W 69-14
10/15 at W Virginia L 46-44
10/22 at Cincy W 46-22
11/03 Pittsburgh W 42-20
11/11 Rutgers W 56-5
And Miami showed VT's defense is far from infallible.
They should win those games good lord even for a Big lEast team that schedule is a joke
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:26 PM
Oh yeah. Well, it is still the Fiesta's option, and haven't most projections indicated OSU in the Fiesta?
Only because until the last few weeks most picked MSU to beat Penn St.
Toad
11-19-05, 04:27 PM
That was a one game fluke. And South Florida is a decent team, just got off to a slow start.
With their offense, Louisville can play with pretty much anyone as long as they show up.
09/04 at Kentucky W 31-24
09/17 Oregon St W 63-27
09/24 at S Florida L 45-14
10/01 FAU W 61-10
10/08 UNC W 69-14
10/15 at W Virginia L 46-44
10/22 at Cincy W 46-22
11/03 Pittsburgh W 42-20
11/11 Rutgers W 56-5
And Miami showed VT's defense is far from infallible.
"Play with anyone"???? They've beaten Kentucky by 7, Oregon State, Florida Atlantic, UNC, Cincinnati, Pitt, and Rutgers. That's not something to hang your hat on.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:28 PM
That was a one game fluke. And South Florida is a decent team, just got off to a slow start.
With their offense, Louisville can play with pretty much anyone as long as they show up.
09/04 at Kentucky W 31-24
09/17 Oregon St W 63-27
09/24 at S Florida L 45-14
10/01 FAU W 61-10
10/08 UNC W 69-14
10/15 at W Virginia L 46-44
10/22 at Cincy W 46-22
11/03 Pittsburgh W 42-20
11/11 Rutgers W 56-5
And Miami showed VT's defense is far from infallible.
Meh, nothing to write home about there.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:28 PM
Only because until the last few weeks most picked MSU to beat Penn St.
I only started looking at projections last week.
Toad
11-19-05, 04:31 PM
Only because until the last few weeks most picked MSU to beat Penn St.
I've seen at-larges range from OSU, Oregon State, VT, Miami, Notre Dame, Alabama, and some others. If Alabama would've won today, and then been squeezed out of the SEC Championship, that would've been legitimate. But they're going to get spanked by an Auburn team that showed up.
My bet for at-larges: Notre Dame and VT/Miami.
Josh H
11-19-05, 04:32 PM
I was just showing their potent O, not that the opponents were a challenge. ;)
It's still impressive to score that many points, and with that offense they can play with anyone if they show up that day.
Putting up 44 on WVU is impressive as their defense has been very good this year.
Not to mention the 63 on Oregon St.
Toad
11-19-05, 04:32 PM
Looking at Josh Hinkle's comments about Kansas and Louisville make me sad.
Toad
11-19-05, 04:33 PM
It's still impressive to score that many points, and with that offense they can play with anyone if they show up that day.
It's college football: ANYONE can play with anyone if they show up that day. That's why you get parity in the SEC, ACC and Big Ten.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:35 PM
Putting up 44 on WVU is impressive as their defense has been very good this year.
I'm sure it was honest omission your part, but I'd like to point out that L'Ville scored 24 in regulation vs WVU. ;)
Josh H
11-19-05, 04:36 PM
It's college football: ANYONE can play with anyone if they show up that day. That's why you get parity in the SEC, ACC and Big Ten.
That's an overstatement. Any decent team can play with anyone if they have their best day. And plenty of crappy teams can't play with top 25 teams period (i.e. temple).
A team like Louisville can play with pretty much anyone if they show up at all. As much as it pains me to say that as if fucking hate them. :D
People write them off way to easy for getting stomped in a fluke game that they didn't show up in on the road against a surprisingly good South Florida team.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:37 PM
What is funny is that if Louisville wasn't in the Big Least, this thread would be one page shorter right now. ;)
Josh H
11-19-05, 04:37 PM
I'm sure it was honest mistake on your part, but I'd like to point out that L'Ville scored 24 in regulation vs WVU. ;)
Yep, which is more than anyone other than VT IIRC.
And still impressive to add 20 in the OTs against us. Even moreso that they did a lot of damage running the ball, when teams haven't been able to run on us all year.
Josh H
11-19-05, 04:41 PM
What is funny is that if Louisville wasn't in the Big Least, this thread would be one page shorter right now. ;)
Yep. :D
What can I say, got to defend my conference.
It's the weakest of the BCS conferences, but still better than all others so no one has a legitimate right to complain that their conference should get that automatic bid. Really none for making it an at large bid either as adding the 5th BCS bowl will solve that.
And the Big Least will only get better. Pitt and Syracuse won't stay down for ever. UCONN has done well for being in D1 for only a couple years.
And South Florida is doing well and is 30,000+ student school in Tampa. They will continue to improve being in a BCS conference and recruiting better. Florida and FSU being lackluster in recent years will aid them as well.
In short, the Big East's BCS bid is going no where, and they'll be a legitimate BCS conference again in a few years IMO. Never a top BCS conference, but at least a solid one.
brizz
11-19-05, 04:43 PM
Not the way it works. Affiliates have control over what they show and what they don't. Local news is the biggest moneymaker of all for most, if not all, local affiliates. Their logic isn't "BS" as you and brizz so eloquently put it -- it's that most people in northern Michigan (brizz won't say which city) don't care about a redneck grudgematch in Alabama. I am positive that Mr. Brizz can head to a local bar and pickup the game on satellite instead of bitching about it on DVDTalk.com.
why thanks for the lesson Mr. Moonves. -ohbfrank-
brizz
11-19-05, 04:46 PM
hold on to your hats folks. the most exciting play in MSU's arsenal coming up: the 38 yd FG attempt!
Red Dog
11-19-05, 04:50 PM
Yeeesh - that was ugly. Isn't there some soccer player there that MSU can use?
brizz
11-19-05, 04:52 PM
nope. this is their 3rd kicker....a freshman wlk on soccer player.
Toad
11-19-05, 04:56 PM
why thanks for the lesson Mr. Moonves. -ohbfrank-
My apologies -- I sometimes try to shove knowledge where it won't fit.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 04:58 PM
Aubie up 28-7. Ballgame.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 05:08 PM
Damn - what a bunch of crap games right now.
brizz
11-19-05, 05:11 PM
My apologies -- I sometimes try to shove knowledge where it won't fit.
come on....why be such an ass about it? I think I have the right to complain....no need to be so goddamned condescending and insulting.
pedagogue
11-19-05, 05:22 PM
come on....why be such an ass about it? I think I have the right to complain....no need to be so goddamned condescending and insulting.
I think brizz has a point.....for once. ;)
-p
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 05:26 PM
Damn - what a bunch of crap games right now.
yep
Daryl
11-19-05, 05:32 PM
I think brizz has a point.....for once. ;)
-p
oh shit, hell has frozen over ;)
MrX
11-19-05, 05:34 PM
Bad clock management by MSU
Maybe we will get John L. running off the field screaming again
Daryl
11-19-05, 05:35 PM
:lol:
Daryl
11-19-05, 05:36 PM
my OSU/PSU parlay is looking better and better
MrX
11-19-05, 05:37 PM
JoePa looked like he needed a cart to get off the field
brizz
11-19-05, 05:39 PM
Bad clock management by MSU
Maybe we will get John L. running off the field screaming again
Bad everything by MSU. John L. is simply not a good coach...he's completely incompetent. He needs to go.
Daryl
11-19-05, 05:40 PM
JoePa looked like he needed a cart to get off the field
He pulled up short and started coughing for a second there - I was thinking "oh shit, this is it".
Toad
11-19-05, 05:40 PM
come on....why be such an ass about it? I think I have the right to complain....no need to be so goddamned condescending and insulting.
Let's go back a step. You were bitching about local television. From your remarks, I (rightly) think that you don't know much about local television. I wasn't trying to be "condescending" and "insulting" -- I was simply trying to inform you about local television and how it runs (money - surprise!). It wasn't very complicated. Then you made your comment with the ever-friendly "oh-b-frank" smiley and "thanks for the history lesson, Mr. Moonves," to which I replied "sometimes I try to shove knowledge where it won't fit."
If you take my comments as consdescending, then take a second look at yours; if you can't take it, then don't dish it. If you're insulted, there's not a damn thing I can do about that except to tell you to get the hell over it.
Now that the pleasantries are aside, I'll once again ask: where do you live in Michigan? You haven't answered yet. I know the Rockford and Grand Rapids areas ok, that's why I asked. Are you a Michigan State fan? My parents both went there; helluva campus.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 05:41 PM
Pretty bad when Wazzu - Washington is the best game on.
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 05:43 PM
"oh shit, this is it".
He's like what 95?
;)
Toad
11-19-05, 05:44 PM
Quake -- does your sig refer to a person who passed away this year, or are you referring to Major League Baseball, in which case --- why omit the years before 1968?
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 05:46 PM
Quake -- does your sig refer to a person who passed away this year, or are you referring to Major League Baseball, in which case --- why omit the years before 1968?
His sister Mary
Toad
11-19-05, 05:48 PM
His sister Mary
Damn, sorry to hear that Quake -- God bless you guys.
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 05:51 PM
Damn, sorry to hear that Quake -- God bless you guys.
yeah here's the thread
Not the way it works. Affiliates have control over what they show and what they don't. Local news is the biggest moneymaker of all for most, if not all, local affiliates. Their logic isn't "BS" as you and brizz so eloquently put it -- it's that most people in northern Michigan (brizz won't say which city) don't care about a redneck grudgematch in Alabama. I am positive that Mr. Brizz can head to a local bar and pickup the game on satellite instead of bitching about it on DVDTalk.com.
Except what you're missing is that the national network loses out on national commercial money when the local affiliate refuses to show the national programming, and you'd better believe that a sustained period of refusal to show the national programming is going to have the national network scrambling to find a new local affiliate.
And FWIW, the comment about local television isn't what makes you a condescending prick here. It's calling what is one of the top rivalries in all of college football a "redneck grudgematch in Alabama" that does it.
Daryl
11-19-05, 05:51 PM
He's like what 95?
;)
He hasn't moved that fast since he fought in the Battle of Bull Run
das Monkey
11-19-05, 05:51 PM
Looks like Wazzou's going to find a way to lose another one. What a terrible season for them.
das
Quake1028
11-19-05, 05:54 PM
Looks like Wazzou's going to find a way to lose another one. What a terrible season for them.
das
It's really unreal what has happened to them. They lost 5 games by a total of 16 points. They could easily be 7-3 or 8-2 with a few bounces their way.
brizz
11-19-05, 05:54 PM
i'll leave the rest of that alone, but since you asked: I live near Traverse City, Yes i'm an MSU fan (duh), i'm a fourth generation Spartan, and yes, it's a lovely campus.
Spartan basketball tips off in 2 minutes in Hawaii...THANK GOD.
brizz
11-19-05, 05:56 PM
And i've noticed JoePa haltingly coughing a few times during the game...not just at the end of the half there. he's got to retire. It would really really suck to have him keel over on the sideline.
CRM114
11-19-05, 05:57 PM
And i've noticed JoePa haltingly coughing a few times during the game...not just at the end of the half there. he's got to retire. It would really really suck to have him keel over on the sideline.
Joepa would have a big bowl of spaghetti and still kick all of your asses at 78.
;)
Quake1028
11-19-05, 05:57 PM
And i've noticed JoePa haltingly coughing a few times during the game...not just at the end of the half there. he's got to retire. It would really really suck to have him keel over on the sideline.
If they couldn't run him off during the lean years, there's no way in hell he's going anywhere after this year.
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:02 PM
I saw JoePa on Costas' new HBO show a while back, and he didn't look a day over 75.
das
brizz
11-19-05, 06:04 PM
MSU scores finally....nice run by Teague.
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:04 PM
• Quake1028 •
It's really unreal what has happened to them. They lost 5 games by a total of 16 points. They could easily be 7-3 or 8-2 with a few bounces their way.
rotfl They missed the tying 3 yard field goal (OK, it was 27 yards, but still a chipshot).
das
brizz
11-19-05, 06:06 PM
I really really wish Tirico would cease calling MSU the "Sparties"
brizz
11-19-05, 06:07 PM
You'd never know Tirico lives in Ann Arbor ;)
Daryl
11-19-05, 06:08 PM
I really really wish Tirico would cease calling MSU the "Sparties"
He lives in Ann Arbor, he probably hears that instead of "Spartans" every time ;)
Daryl
11-19-05, 06:08 PM
:lol: we had the same thought
brizz
11-19-05, 06:12 PM
Stop by the Spartans....PSU Punting.
Daryl
11-19-05, 06:17 PM
geez louise
brizz
11-19-05, 06:17 PM
unfuckinbgelievable.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 06:19 PM
unfuckinbgelievable.
You said it kiddo.
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:19 PM
Well, the only interesting game is over (Wash/WSU). Start the evening games already!
das
twikoff
11-19-05, 06:24 PM
yep.. thats 10 sacks!
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 06:25 PM
:lol: Bama has almost as many penalty yards and offensive yards
speaking of which Twikoff why aren't you posting?
Some football hating friends over at your house? :D2:
-wink-
edit: he finally posted
Quake1028
11-19-05, 06:25 PM
yep.. thats 10 sacks!
Holy shit he's alive. By the way, we revoked your privilege to post in this thread.
twikoff
11-19-05, 06:26 PM
sorry.. we are heading out of town for thanksgiving.. but several people are suppose to come check out our house (trying to sell) while we are gone
so Ive been REALLY busy lately..
and Im watching the game with Griffin
my 5 year old son.. his after school daycare teacher says that he is a walking espn.. all he does is tell everyone what happened in all the games in every sport (football, basketball, baseball, etc..).. :lol:
thats my boy! :up:
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 06:32 PM
my 5 year old son.. his after school daycare teacher says that he is a walking espn.. all he does is tell everyone what happened in all the games in every sport (football, basketball, baseball, etc..).. :lol:
thats my boy! :up:
that's all the world needs is another Dick Vitale
;)
Quake1028
11-19-05, 06:32 PM
Wazzu!!!!
brizz
11-19-05, 06:34 PM
I Can't believe no one can stop that direct snap draw to Scott....they've run that play 5 or 6 times this year and it works everytime.
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 06:36 PM
BTW, twikoff you'd better buy a hog hat and root like crazy that we can beat LSU
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:37 PM
• Quake1028 •
Wazzu!!!!
It won't stand. We both know that. In fact ... <b>I guarantee it</b>. ;)
das
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 06:38 PM
It won't stand. We both know that. In fact ... <b>I guarantee it</b>. ;)
das
You're not cussing, you obviously took the over (197)
Quake1028
11-19-05, 06:39 PM
They are going to win a close game -eek-. Hide the women and children, the apocalypse is nigh!
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 06:39 PM
They are going to win a close game -eek-. Hide the women and children, the apocalypse is nigh!
Who?
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:39 PM
• Canadian Bacon •
You're not cussing, you obviously took the over (197)
Nope. Wazzou -3. Still, Mike Leach ... nut cancer.
das
Quake1028
11-19-05, 06:40 PM
Who?
Wazzu.
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 06:42 PM
Wazzu.
Wazzwho?
;)
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:43 PM
Here comes Michigan State. I expect them to make it a close game and lose by fewer than ... oh, I dunno ... let's say 8.5 points.
das
brizz
11-19-05, 06:44 PM
:lol:
one thing about MSU: they always do just enough to keep us watching....and then lose.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 06:45 PM
Here comes Michigan State. I expect them to make it a close game and lose by fewer than ... oh, I dunno ... let's say 8.5 points.
das
I guess we can shortly expect a turnover or give it up on downs since they can't kick FGs.
atlantamoi
11-19-05, 06:45 PM
Final Score:
Auburn :beer2: Alabama :wacko: :eek:
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:46 PM
• brizz •
one thing about MSU: they always do just enough to keep us watching....and then lose.
Not in the only game where I care. :sad:
das
brizz
11-19-05, 06:46 PM
Despite being the reason they are behind by 10 right now, Stanton is playing his ass off right now.
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:48 PM
• Red Dog •
I guess we can shortly expect a turnover or give it up on downs since they can't kick FGs.
Nah ... they'll kick a field goal and be successful. This game smells like Penn State by 7 all the way.
das
Daryl
11-19-05, 06:48 PM
oh my
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:48 PM
:lol:rotfl:lol:
brizz
11-19-05, 06:49 PM
:lol: rotfl :lol:
Quake1028
11-19-05, 06:50 PM
-ohbfrank-
brizz
11-19-05, 06:50 PM
worst field goal unit in the history of football. seriously.
Bill Geiger
11-19-05, 06:50 PM
My picks for the day (not betting again this weekend -- no studying done)
South Carolina +3.0
Fresno St +23.0
USC/Fresno St Over +64.5
Nah ... they'll kick a field goal and be successful. This game smells like Penn State by 7 all the way.
das
so PSU is +8 (or more)and of course you took them
Bill Geiger
11-19-05, 06:51 PM
FINAL BOISE STATE 70 Idaho 35
twikoff
11-19-05, 06:51 PM
BTW, twikoff you'd better buy a hog hat and root like crazy that we can beat LSU
as sad as it is.. ole miss probably has a better chance :lol:
Bill Geiger
11-19-05, 06:51 PM
PSU would be -8 (no chance they would be given 8 points)
twikoff
11-19-05, 06:52 PM
sheesh
bama hail mary and they catch it and are down at the 1 :lol:
brizz
11-19-05, 06:52 PM
and they give up now. Fucking pathetic.
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:52 PM
I want to bet on the Clemson game, but since it's shockingly being ignored by TV cameras, it won't be near as fun.
das
Quake1028
11-19-05, 06:52 PM
Harvard beat Yale in 3OT :up:.
brizz
11-19-05, 06:52 PM
www.fireJohnL.com
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 06:53 PM
as sad as it is.. ole miss probably has a better chance :lol:
:mad:
You're probably right :(
twikoff
11-19-05, 06:53 PM
stupid garbage time touchdown
and touchdown after turnover
we should have only given up 3 points :mad:
Red Dog
11-19-05, 06:53 PM
I want to bet on the Clemson game, but since it's shockingly being ignored by TV cameras, it won't be near as fun.
das
It's on Gameplan.
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:53 PM
• Bill Geiger •
PSU would be -8 (no chance they would be given 8 points)
I'd have bet my house and convinced you to loan me yours as I bet it as well on PSU +8.
das
twikoff
11-19-05, 06:54 PM
:mad:
You're probably right :(
they just said that arkansas is surging
after beating miss state :lol:
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:54 PM
• Red Dog •
It's on Gameplan.
I know, but that's cheating. ;) I can't believe it's not getting <i>at least</i> a regional audience. (And by "regional" I don't mean the 12 people in South Carolina who get it)
das
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 06:55 PM
I want to bet on the Clemson game, but since it's shockingly being ignored by TV cameras, it won't be near as fun.
das
it's on ESPN2 starts at 7 EST then some will be switched to the LSU/Ole Miss game
if you ahve DirecTV you get both one on the regauler ESPN2 feed and the other on the ESPN 2 alt feed :up:
das Monkey
11-19-05, 06:55 PM
• twikoff •
they just said that arkansas is surging
after beating miss state :lol:
Some asshat on ESPN radio was talking about how Arkansas was going to beat LSU earlier today. -ohbfrank-
das
Canadian Bacon
11-19-05, 06:56 PM
Some asshat on ESPN radio was talking about how Arkansas was going to beat LSU earlier today. -ohbfrank-
das
you never know :p
Bill Geiger
11-19-05, 06:57 PM
I had Over 27.5 2nd half and he took a knee instead of kicking the PAT. I don't want him to die, just nut cancer. He already has 4 kids anyway.
das
:lol: rotfl
I said it right after the knee that if the over was 28 (just as guess too), 27.5 in your case people would be pissed! :lol: rotfl
Sorry bro...that bites!
twikoff
11-19-05, 06:59 PM
Some asshat on ESPN radio was talking about how Arkansas was going to beat LSU earlier today. -ohbfrank-
das
we can only hope
Id love to smack UGa around again ;)
Red Dog
11-19-05, 06:59 PM
I know, but that's cheating. ;) I can't believe it's not getting <i>at least</i> a regional audience. (And by "regional" I don't mean the 12 people in South Carolina who get it)
das
Yeah, you're right. The OBC doesn't get enough coverage. :lol:
Quake1028
11-19-05, 07:03 PM
Das is going to get his wish.
das Monkey
11-19-05, 07:03 PM
• Red Dog •
Yeah, you're right. The OBC doesn't get enough coverage. :lol:
Yeah, but LSU vs. Ole Miss over South Carolina vs Clemson? OBC or not, that's whack.
das
CRM114
11-19-05, 07:06 PM
I smell oranges...
Red Dog
11-19-05, 07:07 PM
That's weird - PSU played LSU in the Orange Bowl in '74? When did the Big-8 affiliation with the Orange Bowl start?
Red Dog
11-19-05, 07:09 PM
I smell oranges...
Pennsyltucky invades South Beach. That should prove interesting.
Quake1028
11-19-05, 07:09 PM
I smell oranges...
I smell me being at that game and seeing a win for the U :).
das Monkey
11-19-05, 07:09 PM
Another pick for the Sparties, just for good measure.
das
Quake1028
11-19-05, 07:10 PM
So, apparently ESPN2 didn't get the memo. The guide says SC/Clemson from 7 to 7:45, but it's still the scoreboard.
Bill Geiger
11-19-05, 07:14 PM
State gives it back
Daryl
11-19-05, 07:16 PM
My "this scenario sucks but I might as well get paid for it" parlay of OSU/PSU has come through for a nice birthday present for me.
das Monkey
11-19-05, 07:19 PM
Whew. That PSU -8.5 just barely held on.
das
Daryl
11-19-05, 07:20 PM
I hope PSU wins their bowl game. That will make that one little loss sting even more :lol:
Quake1028
11-19-05, 07:22 PM
I hope PSU wins their bowl game. That will make that one little loss sting even more :lol:
Watch it, bub :mad:.
Red Dog
11-19-05, 07:23 PM
I hope PSU wins their bowl game. That will make that one little loss sting even more :lol:
That cuts the same way for Miami. ;)
Quake1028
11-19-05, 07:23 PM
That cuts the same way for Miami. ;)
See the post above yours.
Daryl
11-19-05, 07:24 PM
Watch it, bub :mad:.
My bad, unless they play the "U", my all time favorite school not named Michigan
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