College Hoops, November 2005

[Red Dog]

Upon request from WallyOPD. I figure a monthly thread is okay for November since there isn't that much action.


NATIONAL TV SCHEDULE:

Nov. 14
Guardians Classic: Regional consolation at Lexington, Ky., ESPNU, 6
Preseason NIT: Boston University at Duke, ESPN2, 7:30
Guardians Classic: Regional championship at Lexington, ESPNU, 8

Nov. 15
Preseason NIT: New Mexico State at UCLA, ESPN2, 10

Nov. 16
Guardians Classic: Regional consolation at Austin, Texas, ESPNU, 6:30
Preseason NIT quarterfinal, ESPN, 7:30
Guardians Classic: Regional championship at Austin, ESPNU, 8:30

Nov. 17
2K Sports Classic semifinals at New York, ESPN, 7 and 9
Preseason NIT quarterfinals, ESPN2, 8 and 10; ESPNU, 11

Nov. 18
Nicholls State at Indiana, ESPNU, 6
Georgetown at Navy, CSTV, 7
2K Sports Classic consolation, ESPN, 2, 7
2K Sports Classic championship, ESPN, 9
Connecticut at Pepperdine, ESPNU, 11:30

Nov. 19
Davidson at Duke, ESPN2, 5

Nov. 21
Maui Invitational at Lahaina, Hawaii
Michigan State vs. Chaminade, ESPN2, 2:30
Maryland vs. Gonzaga, ESPN2, 5
Arizona vs. Kansas, ESPN, 9
Arkansas vs. Connecticut, ESPN2, 11:30
Guardians Classic semifinals at Kansas City, Mo., ESPN2, 7 and 9

Nov. 22
Maui Invitational at Lahaina, Hawaii
Consolation round, ESPNU, 1:30 and 4
Semifinals, ESPN, 7 and 9
Guardians Classic consolation, ESPNU, 7
Cleveland State at North Carolina, ESPNU, 9
Guardians Classic championship, ESPN2, 10

Nov. 23
Maui Invitational at Lahaina, Hawaii
Fifth-place game, ESPN, 2
Third-place game, ESPN2, 4
Seventh-place game, ESPNU, 7
Championship, ESPN, 10
Preseason NIT semifinals at New York, ESPN2, 7 and 9
Great Alaska Shootout at Anchorage: Southern California vs. Oral Roberts, ESPN2, 11:30

Nov. 24
Great Alaska Shootout at Anchorage: South Carolina at Alaska-Anchorage, ESPN2, 10

Nov. 25
UAB vs. Massachusetts at Springfield, Mass., FSN, 1
South Padre Island (Texas) Invitational
Rutgers vs. Kent State, CSTV, 2
Wichita State vs. Illinois, CSTV, 4:30
Preseason NIT consolation at New York, ESPN2, 4:30
Preseason NIT final at New York, ESPN2, 7
Great Alaska Shootout semifinal, ESPN2, midnight

Nov. 26
Wooden Tradition at Indianapolis: N.C. State vs. Notre Dame, FSN, 7
Great Alaska Shootout championship, ESPN2, 10:30

Nov. 27
IUPU-Fort Wayne at Michigan State, ESPNU, 1
Virginia at Arizona, FSN, 7
Air Force at Navy, CSTV, 9

Nov. 28
ACC-Big Ten Challenge: Virginia Tech at Ohio State, ESPN2, 7:30


Nov. 29
ACC-Big Ten Challenge
Wisconsin at Wake Forest, ESPN, 7
Purdue at Florida State, ESPN2, 7:30
Clemson at Penn State, ESPNU, 8
Illinois at North Carolina, ESPN, 9
Miami (Fla.) at Michigan, ESPN2, 9:30

Nov. 30
ACC-Big Ten Challenge
Georgia Tech at Michigan State, ESPN, 7
Minnesota at Maryland, ESPN2, 7:30
Northwestern at Virginia, ESPNU, 8
Duke at Indiana, ESPN, 9
N.C. State at Iowa, ESPN2, 9:30
Oklahoma at Tulsa, CSTV, 8

[WallyOPD]

:banana:

[deadlax]

Would pretty much guarantee B.U. covers v. Duke (-35) tonight.

[Quake1028]

Maryland vs. Gonzaga, ESPN2, 5
Arizona vs. Kansas, ESPN, 9

These two games alone make the entire month :).

[Red Dog]

Maryland vs. Gonzaga, ESPN2, 5
Arizona vs. Kansas, ESPN, 9

These two games alone make the entire month :).


Strongest Maui field ever.

[Quake1028]

Strongest Maui field ever.

No shit. Looking at it now, that Arkansas vs. UCONN game should be a great one also.

[brizz]

what, no love for Michigan State - Chaminade? ;)


Thank god MSU finally gets a break from Duke for the ACC/Big Ten game.

[Red Dog]

what, no love for Michigan State - Chaminade? ;)


Thank god MSU finally gets a break from Duke for the ACC/Big Ten game.



I really want to see a MD-MSU matchup in the Challenge. The one time Maryland doesn't get Wisconsin or Illinois (they did Indiana once but that was only to set up a rematch of the '02 NCAA Final), they get Minnesota? :hscratch:

[WallyOPD]

I just barely got HD a couple weeks ago (and I didn't technically get it, my mom did, so I'm spending most weekends down there lately -wink-), so do many college basketball games get broadcast in HD? I would love to check out that Arizona-Kansas matchup in HD.

[Red Dog]

I just barely got HD a couple weeks ago (and I didn't technically get it, my mom did, so I'm spending most weekends down there lately -wink-), so do many college basketball games get broadcast in HD? I would love to check out that Arizona-Kansas matchup in HD.


It really depends if you get ESPN2HD. If you get that, then you probably get at least 2x as much as those of us without it.

Here is a preliminary guide:
http://www.hdsportsguide.com/ncaabb.php

Unfortunately, none of the Maui games appear to be in HD.

[WallyOPD]

Well damn. :( Nope, just ESPNHD here, not ESPN2.

[wildcatlh]

Watching only about 15 minutes of the game tonight... I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to take the coverage of JJ Reddick this season. I'm pretty sure it's going to slowly drive me insane.

[Canadian Bacon]

Watching only about 15 minutes of the game tonight... I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to take the coverage of JJ Reddick this season. I'm pretty sure it's going to slowly drive me insane.
Hasn't Pretty Boy graduated yet??!!

I swear he's been there since Grant Hill was at Dook

[Red Dog]

Hasn't Pretty Boy graduated yet??!!

I swear he's been there since Grant Hill was at Dook


I think he's working on that 5-year poetry degree. ;)

[Red Dog]

Watching only about 15 minutes of the game tonight... I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to take the coverage of JJ Reddick this season. I'm pretty sure it's going to slowly drive me insane.


2 words: mute button. It would also help to avoid ESPN as much as possible (just watch the games).

[Josh H]

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to all the Reddick dick sucking the announcers will do this season.

It will be at least as bad as all the Marcus/Michael Vick crap everytime VT played or had a big game coming up. -rolleyes-

[Quake1028]

Mizzou lost to Sam Houston State :lol:.

[Nazgul]

Mizzou lost to Sam Houston State :lol:.

:lol:

[B.A.]

You guys are already bitching about Redick. Awesome. :lol:

[MrX]

Mizzou lost to Sam Houston State :lol:.
rotfl

First game of the year and there's already a "How about Dana Altman?" thread on tigerboard

[Tommy_Harn]

Greg Paulus was the #1 PG in his class? That doesn't say much for that class. Offensively he looks servicable, a decent handle and makes ok decisions. But he has no footspeed, and will get smoked by quicker guards on defense. Luckily for dook, Dockery looks very much improved, so they should be ok at the PG spot this year.

[B.A.]

Great defense by the Devils last night. :beer:

[WallyOPD]

4 more days...4 more days...4 more days...I'm gonna go crazy.

Arizona had their final tune-up exhibition last night, took down Team Georgia 104-81. This one wasn't televised, but I guess they had a 30 point half time lead and it was whittled down to 14 in the second half, and Olson wasn't too happy. He's claiming that 6'6" walk-on Bret Brielmaier will be the starting center for the Kansas game on Monday unless someone beats him out in practice the remainder of this week. Bret pulled down a game-high 11 rebounds in 14 minutes.

"Bret goes for everything,'' Olson said. "He goes hard. He's been our most efficient post guy all-around. He understands the game, he understands the offense, and I'm really pleased with him. I just wish we had another scholarship for him.''

Then Olson paused and adjusted the comment.

"I wish we could take a scholarship from somebody else and give it to him,'' he said.

:lol: Probably just talk. I would be very surprised to see Bret in the starting lineup for such a key early season game, although he does play surprisingly well for a walk-on and saw some decent minutes in a couple of games last season.

[Josh H]

The regional rounds of the Guardians Classic are done, with no surprises.

In the semis on Monday it will be WVU vs. Texas and Kentucky vs. Iowa, with the winners and losers playing on Tuesday.

Should be some great games.

For those interested, regional MVPS were:

Kevin Pittsnogle (WVU)
Greg Brunner (Iowa)
LaMarcus Aldridge (Texas)
Rajon Rondo (Kentucky)

[Josh H]

Dwight Brewington, Providence's leading scorer from last year, has quit the team for personal reasons.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2225911

[Quake1028]

Good to see ESPN already sucking Duke's collective cock for blowing out Seton Hall -rolleyes-.

[Canadian Bacon]

Florida knocks off Wake Forest

[WallyOPD]

I only saw the last 10 minutes of the game but I was actually kind of impressed by Wake despite the loss. There were definitely a lot of flaws in their game but they seemed to be easily correctable mental mistakes that I can forgive this early in the year. There was definitely some talent on display, although like the announcers (Vitale :yack: ) pointed out I'm not sure how deep they are.

[B.A.]

Good to see ESPN already sucking Duke's collective cock for blowing out Seton Hall -rolleyes-.
Good to see you guys are back to your regularly-scheduled whining, too.



;)


How about 'Cuse blowing out Bobby Knight's TT? :beer:

[Red Dog]

Looking at Dook's schedule - if they can get by the road game at Texas in December (not to mention my Bison on Jan 2 ;) ), they should be undefeated when they host Maryland on Jan 11. Heck, they very well could be undefeated when they go to Maryland on Feb 11. That will be interesting.

[Dr_Evil]

Wow what a game. Bucknell beats Rider with a three pointer by Bettencourt with less than 2 seconds left. They were behind most of the second half, but battled back for a great opening night win (they had lost their last four openers). The experience of the team showed tonight.

Bison 56
Rider 54

[Red Dog]

Wow what a game. Bucknell beats Rider with a three pointer by Bettencourt with less than 2 seconds left. They were behind most of the second half, but battled back for a great opening night win (they had lost their last four openers). The experience of the team showed tonight.

Bison 56
Rider 54


:thumbsup:

[Red Dog]

Major upset brewing. MSU is down 14 at Hawaii with 7 minutes left. Unfortunately, no TV coverage.

[Red Dog]

How about those Anteaters! UC Irvine upsets #13 Stanford on the road in easy fashion, 79-63.

[Red Dog]

Hawaii wins by 22. :lol: Guess that's the jetlag factor.

[das Monkey]

:banana::banana::banana:

Go Thundering Rainbow Herd!

das

[brizz]

the entire starting line-up was out in the second half with cramps....Brown had to be carted off - weird. Perhaps they'll have an advantage over the other teams arriving for the Maui Invitational tomorrow? :shrug:

Izzo was right though....this was a stupid game to schedule.

[Red Dog]

Izzo was right though....this was a stupid game to schedule.


Little to gain; a lot to lose. At least I give them credit for playing a program like Hawaii on the road. There should be more of this.

[Canadian Bacon]

Little to gain; a lot to lose. At least I give them credit for playing a program like Hawaii on the road. There should be more of this.
Take it from Duke play no bodies at home and somebodies at home and at home only


;)

[Red Dog]

Take it from Duke play no bodies at home and somebodies at home and at home only


;)


They finally listened to the criticism. They play Texas away from Cameron in December. Don't be too shocked though - the game isn't in Austin, but the Meadowlands.

[Tommy_Harn]

Carolina needs a David Noel 3-Pointer with 1.8 Seconds left to beat Gardner-Webb in their opener. They started three freshman, and another (Danny Green) contributed 17 points off the bench.

[B.A.]

Carolina needs a David Noel 3-Pointer with 1.8 Seconds left to beat Gardner-Webb in their opener. They started three freshman, and another (Danny Green) contributed 17 points off the bench.All of those young guys are going to be seasoned veterans by the time they bolt for the pros over the next year or two.

;)

[leepyswetr]

the entire starting line-up was out in the second half with cramps....Brown had to be carted off - weird. Perhaps they'll have an advantage over the other teams arriving for the Maui Invitational tomorrow? :shrug:

Izzo was right though....this was a stupid game to schedule.
Is their conditioning that bad, or is it something else?

[Josh H]

Is their conditioning that bad, or is it something else?

Jet lag probably the main factor. You an get cramps easier if you're tired.

Climate probably a factor to as it's obviously much warmer in Hawai'i than it is in Michigan this time of year.

[MrX]

Players are always cramping up during Maui. I think it's the climate.

DePaul and Marquette got cemented the fact that they will be Big East bottom feeders yesterday. DePaul lost at home to Bradley and Marquette lost at home to Winthrop.

[Josh H]

Yeah, Depaul will struggle in the Big East. Marquette will do well down the road, but they have a very young team and will get kicked around for a couple years until they get some experience.

[MrX]

DePaul has more talent than Marquette on paper. Leitao could recruit, just wasn't a very good coach.

Marquette has no height with talent so they are going to get killed when they have to play Syracuse and UConn. Winthrop killed them on the glass.

[Josh H]

Yeah, Marquette is down right now. But they recruit well and have great coaching. Being a final four team just a couple years ago, I expect them to do better than Depaul in the Big East in the long run.

[MrX]

Yeah, Marquette is down right now. But they recruit well and have great coaching. Being a final four team just a couple years ago, I expect them to do better than Depaul in the Big East in the long run.
I think the jury is still out on Crean. He looked great when he had Wade but since then he hasn't done anything. He also hasn't cashed in on the Final 4 recruiting wise.

[WallyOPD]

Chaminade hanging tough with Michigan St right now late in the first half. I thought the Hawaii game would have prepped the Spartans to come out strong in this game.

[Red Dog]

Getting pumped for the Terps game. They looked decent on Friday night although I never care to see them full court press. This is the big test though - can Strawberry run the point against a very good opponent. I also wonder how the extra 6 hours of travel compared to the Zags will effect the Terps.

[WallyOPD]

Getting pumped for the Terps game. They looked decent on Friday night although I never care to see them full court press. This is the big test though - can Strawberry run the point against a very good opponent. I also wonder how the extra 6 hours of travel compared to the Zags will effect the Terps.

I heard Strawberry won the EA March Madness '06 mock tournament, so he's got that confidence going for him. I'm also pumped for the Wildcats, I really have no idea what this season will bring for them. They're very deep and athletic but also unproven and will be trying out a new offense. This will be such a great tournament because even if they go 1-2 it will show them exactly what they need to work on to make themselves competitive come March.

[Josh H]

Great games tonight. I'll probably miss all or most of the Terps game unfortunately, but can't wait for WVU-Texas. Iowa-Kentucky should be a good one as well.

On a side note, I'll get to see WVU in person at least once more, as I got tickets last night for the February game @ Georgetown.

[rkndkn]

Hawaii wins by 22. :lol: Guess that's the jetlag factor.

It was televised locally, and it was a GREAT game by the Rainbows. In 30 years of watching them, I have NEVER seen a visiting team encounter such cramps, though. However, in total objectivity, we had control of the game from the opening.

I do give Tom Izzo credit for scheduling a game with us, as it's becoming harder and harder for us to find quality opponents to come here. But any team who comes here shouldn't blame jet lag -- it's only 1 road trip. The Rainbows have to hit at least 5 road trips during the season with multiple games on several. We travel SO MUCH compared to most teams that it is never an even playing field. Early as it is, this year's team is truly promising, and I hope to see them in the NCAA tournament (where Izzo agrees they belong). I'm SO glad Riley Wallace finally has a team again whom he allows to RUN! :)

[brizz]

Good to See MSU turn it around a bit and play an entire game. :up:

Zags with a very strong start. What is it with that team and long hairs?

[brizz]

I really wish Majerus would quit saying that various players are "not atheletic." Hey fat ass....they are starters on major college teams - yes they are. fuckhead.

[Canadian Bacon]

I really wish Majerus would quit saying that various players are "not atheletic." Hey fat ass....they are starters on major college teams - yes they are. fuckhead.
so much hatred


;)

I don't mind Majerus, but he needs to learn that offense is pronounced off-ense not OH-ffense

[brizz]

i've never had a problem with him actually, but he's been incredibly obnoxious today.

[brizz]

Geez...this strawberry kid is pretty good. is that his third steal/dunk?

[Quake1028]

Good game, but Gonzaga had too much in the end. Had the feel of a 3/6 second round NCAA game.

[Red Dog]

Hats off to the Zags. They're really good. They must have shot about 60% of their 3s and 70% in the 2nd half. I don't think Maryland played a bad game and they should be fine in the ACC.

Adam Morrison is awesome. He is as good as Caney-Medley is horrible.

What sucks is that Maryland gets stuck playing Chaminade next game. That won't help at all.

[Red Dog]

Texas and WVU going down to the wire. Only have watched the last few minutes. Has WVU been mostly firing 3s all night?

[Mano]

Geez, WVU just keeps missing these really important 1-and-1's and giving Texas a chance.

[Mano]

Wow, three frontend 1-and-1's in a row missed and now Texas has the lead.

[Dr_Evil]

Nice block.

[Red Dog]

Denied!

[das Monkey]

Lute looks hilarious in that shirt.

das

[Mano]

Nice. It looks like McDonough, Raftery, and Bilas are doing the late Maui games.

Who's staying up for UConn/Arkansas? Any Razorback fans on here?

[WallyOPD]

Wow Arizona definitely hasn't fully mastered this new motion offense. They seem to be using it as an excuse to play streetball. Defense is causing Kansas all sorts of fits but they are a really inexperienced team. Lets see how they adjust as the game goes on.

[WallyOPD]

Olson makes a full 5 man substitution, depth will be fun to have this year.

[Canadian Bacon]

Nice. It looks like McDonough, Raftery, and Bilas are doing the late Maui games. :up: Not a fan of Bilas thoguht but the other 2 are very good

Who's staying up for UConn/Arkansas? Any Razorback fans on here?
:wave: I'll sleep over the long weekend :D2:

Should be a good one :)

[Red Dog]

ODU taking Wisconsin down to the wire.

[Red Dog]

Wisconsin holds ODU off, 84-81.

[WallyOPD]

Arizona doing their best to give this game away with their complete lack of offense (and Marcus Williams' horrendous free throw shooting) but are holding onto the lead still. It helps that Kansas loses the ball on an uncontested fast break layup.

[Josh H]

Texas and WVU going down to the wire. Only have watched the last few minutes. Has WVU been mostly firing 3s all night?

No, more running back doors and driving to the hoop. Didn't chuck three's quite as often as we usually do.

Was a heartbreaking loss, but that's what happens when you can't make your clutch free throws. :( Oh well, I expected us to get killed so this was a huge surprise and shows we can play with anyone this year.

Mainly dissapointed in the loss as now I won't get to see the game tomorrow as the consolation games on stupid ESPNU. :mad: Hopefully they win tomorrow, will suck to have blown this one and then lose tomorrow t0o and come out of the tourney 2 and 2. Especialy with non conference games coming up vs LSU and @Oklahoma and @UCLA and the brutal Big East schedule to follow.

[WallyOPD]

My apologies to anyone who watched that entire Kansas/Arizona game. What an ugly affair.

[Mopower]

Iowa beats Kentucky!! Kick ass.

[Canadian Bacon]

Iowa just knocked off Kentucky the SEC is down but still better than the Pac 10 ;)

[MrX]

That Kansas/Arizona game was ugly

Mario Chalmers better start playing better or Self may fire his dad:lol:

[Canadian Bacon]

It's only an 8 point game but it sure feels like about 25

[Canadian Bacon]

UCONN leads 34-28 at halftime,it could be worse

[Canadian Bacon]

Wake up people this is a game!!!

[Canadian Bacon]

if UCONN is #3 then we're #4 we played them toe to toe

but I still hate the result

[Quake1028]

I can take or leave West Virginia's team as a whole, but Mike Gansey is my favorite player in college ball. That kid is an assassin.

[WallyOPD]

My only solace is that UConn is averaging over 20 turnovers in their first two games so they may be vulnerable to Arizona's pressure defense. The Wildcats won't be able to win though if they can't find a way to create some consistent offense and open looks. Last night was way too haphazard and forced, lots of talent on the floor but it looked like they had no offensive gameplan whatsoever.

Oh and a #7 vs. #13 game being relegated to ESPNU? :grumble:

[Josh H]

I can take or leave West Virginia's team as a whole, but Mike Gansey is my favorite player in college ball. That kid is an assassin.

Yep, I have to agree. I get sick of hearing about Pittsnogle. Non-WVU fans forget that he didn't even start most of last year and only averaged 11 pts a game. He's a good player, but Gansey is the star.

Moves great without the ball, is a great slasher, a great rebounder, can hit threes, plays great D, hustles all the time etc. I wouldn't trade him straight up for any other player in the country.

Hope they aren't hung over from last nights choke job is which they themselves got Pittsnogled. :mad: They really need a win tonight over Kentucky.

[WallyOPD]

Chaminade up 46-44 at the half over Maryland. This would not be the start the Terrapins need.

[Josh H]

Oh and a #7 vs. #13 game being relegated to ESPNU? :grumble:

Yeah, tell me about it.

I hate that fucking channel.

[Josh H]

MD finally woke up. Up on Chaminade by 30 now, without under 5 to go.

[WallyOPD]

Yeah I haven't been able to watch the game but judging by the scoring it sure looks like Williams was able to light a fire under them at halftime.

[Josh H]

Maryland wins 98-69.

[Canadian Bacon]

Damn make the FTs

[Josh H]

Damn make the FTs

I feel your pain. I was tossing and turning last night hearing the "clangs!" of those three missed front ends by WVU over and over. :(

I honestly think this collapse stings worse than blowing the 20 point lead against Louisville. I guess because at that point I was already happy with how far they got, where as this was early and a win over Texas would have put us off to a great start in getting a high NCAA tourney seed.

[Canadian Bacon]

Good job Ronnie those were clutch

[Canadian Bacon]

:banana:Ballgame!!! 65-64, Hill with the block!!!

[Josh H]

Can listen to the WVU-Kentucky game here for free.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/audio/

Looks like we're going to get killed, down by 10 now. :(

Edit: 13 now.

Kentucky on a 20-0 run. :( All we're doing is missing three's and all they're doing is making 3's.

[Josh H]

33-26 Kentucky at the half.

WVU is 3-19 on three's after going 9 for 23 last night. -rolleyes-

They need to get the ball inside on back doors again, if it worked against Texas with Aldridge and Buckman down their, they ought to be able to do it against Kentucky as well.

Oh well, hopefully Kentucky will stay cooled off, they were on fire from 3 for a while, but missed several toward the end of the half finishing 6 for 13.

[Josh H]

Kentucky wins 80-66. WVU got it down to 4 with 8 minutes or so left, but kentucky hit a couple quick 3's and put it back out of reach.

Well, fuck, that's a shitty start to the season. A 2-2 start's not good for WVU when they still have non conference games against LSU and @Oklahoma and @UCLA. Those missed free throws last night are going to bite us in the ass on selection sunday, being it keeping us out if we're on the bubble, or at the least hurting our seeding some.

The LSU game at home this saturday is the closet thing to a must win you can have in November IMO.

Only positive I can take from this loss is at least the missed free throws last night didn't fuck with Pittsnogle's confidence as he played great and scored 27.


Football team better not choke against Pitt Thursday! I can only take so much in 4 days!

[Dr_Evil]

Bucknell wins at Syracuse 74-69.

I honestly expected them to win this with the way Syracuse has sturggled to start the season. Fear the bison!

[Red Dog]

Another giant slain.

Bucknell 74
#17 Syracuse 69

:banana: :banana: :banana:

[Red Dog]

Wow.

OT!

[WallyOPD]

Congrats to Bucknell, damn Michigan St for delaying the Arizona game!

[Tommy_Harn]

Wow, looks like Gerry McNamara should have bolted for the pros after his freshman year :)

UNC has an early 21-10 early lead on what sounds like a horrible Cleveland St. team. Here's the Internet Radio Link (http://olive.gazetteis.com/radio_gg/boss.htm) for anyone interested.

[Red Dog]

Make it Double OT.

Looked like the refs swallowed their whistles in that sequence.

[Red Dog]

Make it Triple OT. :lol:

[Canadian Bacon]

Gonzaga wins it in 3 OTs
Awesome game!!

[Red Dog]

Izzo just a tad upset at the no-call at the end. :lol:

Awesome game.

[Daryl]

dammit - game wouldn't end, kept me from cracking open my xbox 360.

I love college bball!

[Quake1028]

What an exhausting game :lol:. Happy to see Michigan St. lose, that team just rubs me the wrong way for some reason. What can you say about Morrison? My God, that kid is nuts.

[WallyOPD]

One of the best games I've watched in years. Those are two very very good teams.

[Jeremy517]

Izzo just a tad upset at the no-call at the end.

I don't think Izzo has much of a complaint; the defender was straight up-and-down.

Great game :up:

[B.A.]

Zags. :beer:

[Steam]

Good win for the Zags. Morrison looked pretty good. Lets hope that he doesn't crap the bed come crunch time in the tournament. No, I'm not bitter or anything.

[WallyOPD]

The problems with Arizona are going to take a while to fix. There's no presence on offense, I'm not sure what they've been spending these 5 weeks going over in practice. Good game to the Huskies. :beer:

[Kal Varnsen]

What an exhausting game :lol:. Happy to see Michigan St. lose, that team just rubs me the wrong way for some reason.
And what reason would that be?

[Red Dog]

I don't think I've seen a better opening month to a college hoops season and we still have a week left in November. :thumbsup: to Feast Week.

[Quake1028]

And what reason would that be?

:shrug: Just never have liked the Spartans.

[Josh H]

I don't think I've seen a better opening month to a college hoops season and we still have a week left in November. :thumbsup: to Feast Week.

Have to agree. Some amazing games. Too much dissapointment as a WVU fan, but still amazing matchups and finishes for this early in the year!

Should be a great season. Last year it was pretty likely we'd get Illinois vs. UNC in the title game. I don't think there are two teams that dominant this year.

[Red Dog]

Nice article in the Syracuse paper re: the asking-for-ass-raping Bucknell Bison....

No further proof needed, Bucknell is indeed legit

Wednesday, November 23, 2005

BUD POLIQUIN
POST-STANDARD COLUMNIST

Well, it wasn't as if you hadn't been warned about the possibility that something like this could happen. This wasn't ever going to be the sneakered version of Bush vs. Dukakis, or Tyson vs. Spinks, or Carl Lewis vs. the national anthem.

This was never, in other words, going to be a mangling. So if you're surprised that the Bison from itty-bitty Bucknell grazed into the Carrier Dome Tuesday evening and knocked off the big, bad Orange of Syracuse University, 74-69... um, you weren't paying attention.

"All I can say," offered Charles Lee, "is, Watch out for the Bison.' We're a very good team. We might be overmatched sometimes, but we'll fight. We'll fight through all our games. This might have been a surprise to some people, but it wasn't a surprise to us. We came in here not to try to compete, but to try to win. And we pulled it out."

Charles Lee? He is Bucknell's 6-foot-3 senior guard with a talent as smooth as his syntax. And after he’d scored 18 points, pulled down five rebounds and passed off for four assists against SU, he was approached by a local nit who asked him, "I’m out of line to be shocked by this, aren’t I?"

"Yes," he said as calmly as you please. "I really think you are."

The point is, the Bison came in as advertised, which is to suggest that the Bucknell boys didn’t look at all like what we all used to think Bucknell boys looked like. The bunch that was losing at home to Albany as recently as four years ago and at home to Yale in ’03? In basketball terms, that was so yesterday.

Apparently, something’s been mixed in with the Kool-Aid there at Sojka Pavilion in Lewisburg, Pa. Prior to last season, after all, the Bison had trudged through four consecutive losing campaigns, but then... poof! A 23-10 record. Regular-season road wins over Pittsburgh and Saint Joseph’s. A victory in the Dome (even if it was over Northern Colorado). That remarkable toppling of Kansas in the NCAA Tournament.



Amazing.Suddenly, Bucknell wasn’t anybody’s handkerchief to be used, folded and placed in a back pocket; rather, it was a real, live obstacle... and quite capable of putting the ball in the basket (which it did 25 times in 47 attempts against the day-late-and-dollar-short Syracuse defense). And while the Bison guys still aren’t Ewing’s Hoyas, they are legit and a whole lot more of a load than the opposition usually gets around here in the calendar year.

In any event, they were more than what this evolving Orange edition could handle on this chilly night. With each of its five starters returning from that Kansas upset last March and with a bit of Capt. Jack Sparrow in its step, Bucknell has become a bona fide challenge. Which meant that the Syracuse athletes needed to have eaten their beans before this one.

Alas, as those 20,490 Domers in the house discovered, they didn’t eat nearly enough.

"Our defense wasn’t good enough," declared Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim, who was as composed as he was unwavering, "and our rebounding was pathetic."



The Orangeshooting wasn’t so hot, either, as Boeheim’s swells missed 37 of their 60 shots from the field, including 15 of the 24 they lobbed from beyond the arc. Which means they came up with doughnuts across the board — offense, defense and rebounding. And that did not please the boss.

"There’s a reason nobody respected us that much in the polls," said Boeheim, whose squad is listing at 3-2. "We’re not that good. We’ve got a lot of work to do right now. You’ve got to remember, Bucknell is good... but they won at Rider by two points. They’re a good team, but, you know, you gotta be able to play with them."



Fact is,the Orange did that in one stretch of nearly 10 minutes as it turned an eight-point deficit with three minutes to play before the intermission (24-16) into a seven-point advantage with 13½ minutes remaining in the second half (47-40). But beyond that 31-16 run, this was a decidedly Bison affair. Indeed, subtract those 10 nice Syracuse minutes that spilled from one stanza to the next and Bucknell wins going away 58-38.

"I’m telling you, we’re not stunned," insisted Lee, who was one of three Bucknell players in double figures. "We love these kinds of games. We had a lot of confidence coming in because of those previous games we won. On any given day, anybody can beat anybody. I think we’ve proven that in the past and I think we’re going to continue to prove that in the future."

SU? Let us draw no serious conclusions before we even carve the Thanksgiving bird, shall we? God created November and December with Orange transitions such as this one — this creaking passage from the Warrick-Pace-Forth troika to the Roberts-Watkins-Devendorf trio — in mind. And it will be up to the Syracuse oufit to use the time wisely as it wends its way into January and to the dawn of Phase II of this, Boeheim’s 30th season on the bridge.



"I don’t thinkthere’s a team that we’re playing right now that can’t beat us if we don’t get better," said Boeheim, whose bunch has those Siena Saints dead ahead. "We have a long, long ways to go. Hopefully, everybody will realize that and we’ll get there."

With Bucknell out of the way, that job will get easier. And, yes, you read that right.

[Red Dog]

Maryland 30
Arkansas 27 Half

[Red Dog]

Maryland 75
Arkansas 62 F

:thumbsup:

[WallyOPD]

Well I'm impressed that Arizona came as close as they did against UConn and Michigan St. the way they played this tournament. Now that their weaknesses have been exposed it will be interesting to see how quickly they can correct them.

Oh and Jawann McClellan can't come back soon enough. :(

[Canadian Bacon]

Dukie V doing the Dook/Drexel NIT game :yack: time to hit the mute button

[Red Dog]

What a marathon 3 days for the Spartans.

[Quake1028]

USC loses by 20 to Oral Roberts, dropping to 0-2 on the year. Great start for Tim Floyd :lol:.

Great Maui final. The Zags took UCONN to the final shot after the 3OT game against MSU last night. This could be a legit Final 4 team.

[MrX]

Here's a gem from Kansas freshman Julian Wright about going to Maui

"I'm really looking forward to it," Wright said. "We'll be out there wearing shorts while Thanksgiving is going on back in America."
rotfl

[Canadian Bacon]

Here's a gem from Kansas freshman Julian Wright about going to Maui


rotfl
:lol:

I bet you flunked Geoghrapy in high school

[Red Dog]

Lucky SOB. -rolleyes-

[B.A.]

Memphis and Duke (I believe that's the correct spelling) is going down to the wire. And to my amazement, Duke has only shot 11 threes. :eek:

That Paulus kid is good, unlike that schmuck, Sean Dockery.

[B.A.]

Lucky bastards won that by the skin of their teeth. Make your damn free throws!!!!


And :up: to U of I for pulling one out of their ass earlier this evening.

[MrX]

How bad is Georgia Tech this year?

They get blown out at home by a UIC team that lost to an NAIA school earlier in the week.

[Josh H]

:(

WVU drops another one, 71-68 at home to LSU in overtime.

This brutal non-conference schedule they put together this year is killing us.

Gansey had a great game with 28 points and 8/12 on three's, but Pittsnogle didn't show up and only had 5 points and the whole team was 15/45 on threes. Way too many threes attempted, but I figured that would happen as there's no way we can do anything inside on a team with LSU's crazy size inside.

[WallyOPD]

I don't know why but this Arizona team can't shoot. They have several other flaws but ultimately they just can not shoot. They've been missing wide open shots every single game.

[WallyOPD]

Ok well they're doing a little better now, currently on a 29-1 run against Virginia, for a score of 51-29. :lol: Virginia has 1 point over 7 minutes into the second half.

[B.A.]

Top guard chooses Illinois

By Jeff Rabjohns
jeff.rabjohns@indystar.com
November 28, 2005

Eric Gordon, North Central High School's prolific shooting guard, has decided to play college basketball for Illinois, his father confirmed Sunday night.

Gordon, ranked as high as the fifth-best player in the nation in the junior class by some scouting services, was one of the most highly sought players in the nation. He was also being recruited by Duke and other major programs.

Gordon can sign a letter of intent in the fall of his senior year.

Ranked No. 5 in the nation by rivals.com, Gordon is unquestionably Indiana's highest-rated junior.

"The No. 1 thing is just the coaching staff," the elder Gordon, also named Eric, said of the Illini, coached by Bruce Weber. "They recruited him since he was younger. They've shown so much interest in him."

The elder Gordon also cited the proximity from Indianapolis to Illinois' campus in Champaign, Ill., and the way Illinois developed guards Deron Williams and Luther Head, both playing in the NBA. Both were keys in Illinois' national runner-up run last season.

Williams was the No. 3 overall pick by the Utah Jazz, and Head was the 24th overall pick by the Houston Rockets. Williams is averaging 13.6 points as the second-leading scorer for the Jazz, and is the team leader is assists at 5.1 per game. Head is averaging 9.8 points and shooting 49.0 percent from 3-point range.

The younger Gordon could not be reached for comment.

A news conference announcing the decision is expected this week.

Gordon led North Central as a sophomore with a 26.5-point scoring average.

The 6-2 shooting guard made a strong impression this summer with Spiece Indy Heat. As the shooting guard on the team that included 7-foot center Greg Oden and point guard Mike Conley, Gordon was a stellar shooter, penetrator and defender.

Oden, the national high school Player of the Year, and Conley, both seniors, are headed to Ohio State.

Gordon's decision means top players in four consecutive classes have headed out of state.

Carmel's Josh McRoberts is starting for Duke as a freshman. Then there are Oden and Gordon. Warren Central's Walter Offutt, considered the top player in the 2008 class, made an oral commitment to Ohio State.
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:up:

[MrX]

Davis is getting buried by the entire state for letting all that talent get away. It's funny how they still worship the douchebag Knight when he got the ball rolling for all this when he convinced May not to go there.

[B.A.]

Mike Davis should have gotten the hell out of Dodge long ago. That was a lose-lose situation from the get go.