What do all of you Detroit fans think of the team so far? Maurice Evans looks to be a steal - pure shooting small forward who looks to be able to handle the ball as well. Delfino was also very smooth in his first game. Kinda like watching Ginobli play if you think about it. He strokes a nice high arcing three and then does a reverse one handed dunk. Love it... Darko looks like he's about to arrive. Defense seems to be there and he knocked down a 20 footer last night like it was old hat.
What about Flip Saunders? The Pistons played the trademark 'D' last night and then also scored 108 pts. Granted it was against the 76ers but hey, they took care of business and didn't do one of those 'go to sleep' spells they were notorious for last year. I think the 'O' will be much better this year and Hamilton may have a banner year.
Josh H
11-03-05, 05:51 PM
The Lakers had one so...
There's a lot of Lakers fans and haters here to keep a discussion thread going. I doubt the same is true of any other team other than the Yankees.
Quake1028
11-03-05, 08:00 PM
The Spurs honestly have more fans on the sports board than the Pistons. I think you might be talking to yourself for a lot of the year ;).
Kerborus
11-04-05, 03:06 PM
I often do...
joshd2012
11-04-05, 03:36 PM
De-Troit
Bas-Ket-Ball
devilshalo
12-25-05, 11:18 PM
Isn't this thread closed yet since the OP can't seem to talk about his team in here? -ohbfrank-
DarkElf
12-26-05, 12:20 AM
Isn't this thread closed yet since the OP can't seem to talk about his team in here? -ohbfrank-
:confused:
And why again should this thread be closed?
devilshalo
12-27-05, 12:33 PM
So you're going to pull out all of the Pistons posts in the NBA thread and put them here? :o
DarkElf
12-28-05, 06:09 AM
My patience has reached its end. You're obviously just trying to cause trouble, resurrecting a dead thread just to take a jab at Kerborus. And you're thread crapping. Other moderators think you should be suspended for this crap, so I strongly suggest you knock it off or you'll be enjoying a short break from the forum.
A formal warning to all: this thread will remain open and will live or die on its own. And thread crapping will not be tolerated.
Quake1028
12-28-05, 10:33 AM
DarkElf: I think what everyone is saying is, we have a Lakers thread, and that is used by all of the Lakers fans. We have a Pistons thread, but the biggest Pistons fan on the boards just posts in the NBA thread. This is kind of a duplicate thread in that sense, and these get closed all the time on this forum.
Anyway, just my 2 cents, and I have nothing against the OP at all.
grrrah
12-28-05, 11:48 AM
another 2 cents to add to the collection basket..
I think all threads should be kept open, and the fan threads (this and the lakers) should be more tolerant to smack talking and gloating as the OPs should be willing to take the stuff if they open a thread (as long as its directed at the team). This is a part of sports afterall. The Laker fans seem to take the taunting well in their thread.
The general NBA discussion should probably be geared toward actual discussion, and less about gloating how your team massacared the other team.
If someone starts a Piston thread, and starts gloating in the discussion thread, the rest of us should have the right to tell them to move their useless gloats to this thread.
maybe I am wrong, but to me, its just 2 common cents. -ohbfrank-
fumanstan
12-28-05, 01:59 PM
This thread was dead until someone decided to bump it two months later. I don't really see why the issue was brought back when it could have just died on it's own.
DarkElf
12-28-05, 02:10 PM
I understand the concern, and Kerborus is tetering on the edge of my patience as well. But I've reviewed his posts and he's (usually) talking about actual game results and sometimes combining multiple games (including the Pistons game) into one post. I've also seen plenty of Lakers posts in the main NBA threads too.
If Kerborus chooses to not use this thread, it's his business. He hasn't requested it be closed, and while it's almost certain that there aren't enough Pistons fans on this board to keep this thread alive, there's nothing saying a few others might not want to post here.
It's a close call, but I've chosen to let this thread remain open. Having said that, this is the end of this debate in this thread. All further posts will be about the Pistons, not whether we should close the thread.
Thanks for the cooperation.
Kerborus
12-29-05, 05:00 PM
Sorry to have caused so much commotion. I opened this thread to see how many Pistons fans there were here and hopefully, discuss them here. But as other have pointed out on many occassions, there are only a few Pistons fans on the board and thus, I post in the NBA forum where a discussion could be had.
When I post in the NBA thread, I am discussing the league and the Detroit Pistons. I have no clue why all of you get so worked up over anything I say. Just because I have a contrary viewpoint, should not cause so much emnity. I don't really engage in 'this guy sucks' or 'this team is awful' and neither do I engage in frontal flaming attacks (i.e. 'So and so, you're an idiot because you don't agree'.
Since it causes so much consternation to others (I'm not sure why) I would be alright with this thread being closed.
Aphex Twin
12-31-05, 04:28 PM
Hey, I thought part of the reason the Pistons wanted to get rid of Brown was because he didn't want to play Darko. I'm looking at Darko's stats, and he only averages 6 minutes, 1.4 points and 1.2 rebounds. And to think Dumars passed on all these offers for him in the offseason and refused to trade him. Does Darko get tired really easy or something? Does he have a nagging injury?
Daryl
12-31-05, 04:45 PM
Hey, I thought part of the reason the Pistons wanted to get rid of Brown was because he didn't want to play Darko. I'm looking at Darko's stats, and he only averages 6 minutes, 1.4 points and 1.2 rebounds. And to think Dumars passed on all these offers for him in the offseason and refused to trade him. Does Darko get tired really easy or something? Does he have a nagging injury?
Slightly different situation than when he played under LB, where he never got a chance. Skip gave him a chance, but after early success, Darko squandered it. Darko got meaningful minutes early on in the season (including a few games where he was first off the bench), but he continues to have maturity problems when it comes to practicing hard. On this team (especially with so few minutes available after McDyess, Arroyo and Evans get theirs) you need to practice well to play. Something Darko has not done but Delfino has, so Delfino gets "real" minutes while Darko plays in mop-up duty. As another bonus, in two straight games in early December, Darko was completely dogging it on the defensive end - which not so coincidentally is the last time to date that Darko got real minutes. I don't expect it to change in the near future, as I don't have much faith in Darko suddenly turning it around in practice, plus Lindsay Hunter will be back to take up some minutes in a month or so.
Daryl
12-31-05, 04:46 PM
One more thing: simple and plain, the Pistons got rid of LB cuz LB no longer wanted to be here ;)
Kerborus
01-03-06, 01:45 PM
Hey, I thought part of the reason the Pistons wanted to get rid of Brown was because he didn't want to play Darko. I'm looking at Darko's stats, and he only averages 6 minutes, 1.4 points and 1.2 rebounds. And to think Dumars passed on all these offers for him in the offseason and refused to trade him. Does Darko get tired really easy or something? Does he have a nagging injury?
Agreed, Darko has been a bust IMHO. He was drafted for his size on a team that was already a contender and it turns out that he doesn't like to play very hard. Although I wish they could have traded him for Al Harrington, Joe is more concerned about keeping the core of the team together (moneywise) than adding on pieces.
moorehed
01-03-06, 02:00 PM
Pistons rule.
gmal2003
01-03-06, 02:01 PM
When I think about the Darko draft saga, no matter who we could of drafted in his place (Wade, Carmelo, Bosh, etc. etc.), I always go back to the fact that we won the Championship that year. IMHO, any move we make or didnt make that year was why we won. Having drafted one of those other guys probably would have lessened our need to trade for a guy like Rasheed or at least interuppted our chemistry that was so essential for our run. Although Darko has been disapointing, if I could do it all over again I would.
Joe Dumars recently mentioned that he MIGHT consider picking up another piece for the bench which would spell Darko'e end in Detroit as he is the only guy with the salary and potential that we would consider trading as Joe has always said his top 6 are not going anywhere (Ben, Rasheed, Tayshaun, Cahuncey, Rip, McDyess)
Lastly, whats your win prediction for this team. 70? I say 66 wins.
fumanstan
01-03-06, 02:28 PM
I say 68.
LurkerDan
01-03-06, 02:35 PM
When I think about the Darko draft saga, no matter who we could of drafted in his place (Wade, Carmelo, Bosh, etc. etc.), I always go back to the fact that we won the Championship that year. IMHO, any move we make or didnt make that year was why we won. Having drafted one of those other guys probably would have lessened our need to trade for a guy like Rasheed or at least interuppted our chemistry that was so essential for our run. Although Darko has been disapointing, if I could do it all over again I would.
I agree, can't say it was a bad move when they won the title. Plus, it's not like everyone thought they were crazy for drafting him, he was clearly in the top 3, pretty much anyother team would have picked him 2 or 3. All you could say is that they should have drafted Melo, but then, as you point out, they may not have won a title.
Kerborus
01-03-06, 03:55 PM
Pistons rule.
Amen, brother.
Tonight in Orlando to take on the new and improved Magic with Grant Hill.
moorehed
01-03-06, 03:59 PM
wish i could watch the games.... is it on TNT or anything?
Kerborus
01-03-06, 04:33 PM
wish i could watch the games.... is it on TNT or anything?
Nope, but you can listen to it live on wdfn.com
Kerborus
01-03-06, 04:34 PM
I said 66 wins in the other thread, but I think I was a little forward. I'll go with 64 wins.
Kerborus
01-03-06, 10:03 PM
Nice win in Orlando tonight. Billups established himself and took over down the stretch in the 4th quarter. Another great performance - 37 pts. 9 assists...
Kerborus
02-20-06, 06:26 PM
Great showing for the Detroit Pistons in the All-Star game. Billups and co. really helped Lebron save the day from the West. Pistons come in the game and immediately go on an 11-0 run with their play and defense. Billups looked great as usual, having a hand in all 11 points. I especially liked when Ben Wallace stuffed Gasol twice.
No surprise, that when they came out, the defense stopped and the lead was blown. It was scary for a second.
As usual though, ESPN shows highlights as if Lebron lead them all the way back single handedly... Not a Piston highlight in sight.
Jeremy517
02-20-06, 07:09 PM
Great showing for the Detroit Pistons in the All-Star game. Billups and co. really helped Lebron save the day from the West. Pistons come in the game and immediately go on an 11-0 run with their play and defense. Billups looked great as usual, having a hand in all 11 points. I especially liked when Ben Wallace stuffed Gasol twice.
No surprise, that when they came out, the defense stopped and the lead was blown. It was scary for a second.
As usual though, ESPN shows highlights as if Lebron lead them all the way back single handedly... Not a Piston highlight in sight.
The East never went on an 11-0 run. Their longest run was 10, with the points being scored by four non-Pistons.
In reality, only one Piston had a great showing. Ben was so-so, Hamilton was invisible, and Rasheed was terrible.
And if you're expecitng defense in an NBA All-star game, this must be the first All-star game that you've ever seen.
Aphex Twin
02-20-06, 07:56 PM
Great showing for the Detroit Pistons in the All-Star game. Billups and co. really helped Lebron save the day from the West. Pistons come in the game and immediately go on an 11-0 run with their play and defense. Billups looked great as usual, having a hand in all 11 points. I especially liked when Ben Wallace stuffed Gasol twice.
No surprise, that when they came out, the defense stopped and the lead was blown. It was scary for a second.
As usual though, ESPN shows highlights as if Lebron lead them all the way back single handedly... Not a Piston highlight in sight.
What the fuck are you doing posting here. You already had your farewell speech:
Ummm... I didn't say anything about Rip. (As usual, brought up by others, not me). And Arenas did make the team... I didn't think I said anything so harsh as to warrant this response. (Or any of the responses that have come lately). I can't believe the sensitivity of this group, by far the most I've seen in years of posting on this forum. You point out rose colored glasses, but absolve others (Aphex, Dabomb, etc.) of theirs. I don't personal attack like the majority of you all either and it isn't even fun anymore to post.
You've all made it clear that I'm not wanted here and opposing views will not be tolerated. There's also no moderator in sight to referee so see ya'll later. I'll think of you all when the Pistons are dancing with the trophy. Have fun laying into me in my absence.
Congratulations. You've proven yourself to be a troll, a myopic, obsessed fanboy, an attention whore, and a liar.
Kerborus
02-20-06, 11:18 PM
The East never went on an 11-0 run. Their longest run was 10, with the points being scored by four non-Pistons.
In reality, only one Piston had a great showing. Ben was so-so, Hamilton was invisible, and Rasheed was terrible.
And if you're expecitng defense in an NBA All-star game, this must be the first All-star game that you've ever seen.
Oops, it was 11-4. My bad. I thought the Pistons all had a good showing. Rip had two buckets during the comeback, Rasheed scored the go-ahead basket and made the final steal to seal the victory. Ben had 8 rebounds, good 'D' and had some key blocks. Billups was Billups. I thought they all looked good and definately had a hand in the win.
Kerborus
02-20-06, 11:20 PM
What the fuck are you doing posting here. You already had your farewell speech:
Congratulations. You've proven yourself to be a troll, a myopic, obsessed fanboy, an attention whore, and a liar.
I was retiring from the NBA thread, but thought I'd continue to talk Detroit in this thread... Nothing wrong with that, is there?
As for the troll comment, looks like you've been suspended, so I guess we know who the real troll is...
Dabaomb
02-21-06, 10:09 AM
What the fuck are you doing posting here. You already had your farewell speech:
Congratulations. You've proven yourself to be a troll, a myopic, obsessed fanboy, an attention whore, and a liar.
I agree with Kerby..you're comments here went a lil too far & that's why you got suspended
Kerborus
02-21-06, 09:53 PM
Pistons win in Atlanta tonight. Another great game by Billups, hitting all the big shots and racking up the assists.
Pistons play 8 games in 12 nights now. Not sure what the scheduler was smoking when he did the Pistons schedule as this has happened to them a lot of late...
Kerborus
03-04-06, 12:45 AM
What the hell is up with Rasheed Wallace and his crazy three pointer spree he's been on the last month...? Tonight he shoots 13 3-pointers! Guards don't shoot 13 3-pointers on almost any given night... The guy hits some big 3's no question, but let's have some reality here. If he takes 13 more shots on the block I guarantee at least 50% go in.
I really have a problem with Flip here - he needs to get this under control...
As a team, the Pistons are really lazy this past month, totally settling for the 3-pointer instead of working the ball inside. Hope this trend doesn't continue into the late season and the playoffs...
Daryl
03-04-06, 11:26 AM
What the hell is up with Rasheed Wallace and his crazy three pointer spree he's been on the last month...? Tonight he shoots 13 3-pointers! Guards don't shoot 13 3-pointers on almost any given night... The guy hits some big 3's no question, but let's have some reality here. If he takes 13 more shots on the block I guarantee at least 50% go in.
I really have a problem with Flip here - he needs to get this under control...
As a team, the Pistons are really lazy this past month, totally settling for the 3-pointer instead of working the ball inside. Hope this trend doesn't continue into the late season and the playoffs...
It was way too many, but in his defense, at least 11 of them he was completely wide open - there wasn't a Sonic within 6 feet of him. If he shot his normal percentage, the Pistons win by 10. Even the (Piston) announcers were like "well, it's technically a bad shot because he keeps missing them, but I don't think he's been this open all season". Maybe that was the problem!!
Johnny Boy
03-04-06, 12:38 PM
I wouldn't worry about Rasheed's threes. He'll snap out of it. If I were a Pistons fan, I'd worry more about the refs calling technical fouls on 'Sheed for "looking" or "smiling".
Did you know at one time my Wizards had 'Sheed, Ben Wallace, and Chris Webber all at the same time? :( We let them all go. Our management used to be as bad as Isiah Thomas.
gmal2003
03-05-06, 12:47 PM
I wouldn't worry about Rasheed's threes. He'll snap out of it. If I were a Pistons fan, I'd worry more about the refs calling technical fouls on 'Sheed for "looking" or "smiling".
Did you know at one time my Wizards had 'Sheed, Ben Wallace, and Chris Webber all at the same time? :( We let them all go. Our management used to be as bad as Isiah Thomas.
You had Rip too. But not at the same time.
Johnny Boy
03-05-06, 05:50 PM
You had Rip too.
Yep. But it doesn't really bother me that we lost Rip. We traded him for Stackhouse then traded Stack for Jamison. We got someone better than Rip in the process.
The bad thing about losing Sheed, Webber, and Benny is that we really didn't get anybody except an old Mitch Richmond. :lol:
Kerborus
03-05-06, 11:17 PM
Well the threes as a team are becoming a problem as well. Billups, Prince and R. Wallace are settling for the threes instead of going inside more. Overall, the team looks to be tired and as a result, they aren't working as hard.
Further, they are getting destroyed on the boards of late. Did I miss something? How is this team with both Wallaces and above average size Prince and the guards getting beaten so badly night in and night out? Is it the effort?
Oh well, they are 48-10...
gmal2003
03-05-06, 11:47 PM
Yep. But it doesn't really bother me that we lost Rip. We traded him for Stackhouse then traded Stack for Jamison. We got someone better than Rip in the process.
The bad thing about losing Sheed, Webber, and Benny is that we really didn't get anybody except an old Mitch Richmond. :lol:
Jamison better than Rip? At what? Basketball!? Jamison is a good player (very underrated IMHO) but not as good as Hamilton. I guess they are both close though in terms if being either at the bottom of top tier players or top of second tier players. Rip though has more upside, playoff experience, and has improved one or more facets of his game each year he's been in Detroit. Jamison has been stagnant at best in terms of his game.
Game985
03-06-06, 04:54 AM
Further, they are getting destroyed on the boards of late. Did I miss something? How is this team with both Wallaces and above average size Prince and the guards getting beaten so badly night in and night out? Is it the effort?
Oh well, they are 48-10...
I agree. The Pistons have been getting outrebounded a lot lately which is weird. It be great if Ben Wallace plays like how he did in Game 5 2004 every night. That guy was a freaking monster in that game.
Johnny Boy
03-06-06, 10:13 AM
Jamison better than Rip? At what? Basketball!? Jamison is a good player (very underrated IMHO) but not as good as Hamilton. I guess they are both close though in terms if being either at the bottom of top tier players or top of second tier players. Rip though has more upside, playoff experience, and has improved one or more facets of his game each year he's been in Detroit. Jamison has been stagnant at best in terms of his game.
Jamison is a better basketball player than Rip Hamilton. He may not have the "mid-range" shot that Rip has, but he has the ability to score like a monster. People forget what Jamison's capable of. Back to back 50 plus point games. He can score inside, he can hit the three. Add to that his above average ability to rebound the ball. It's impressive, especially for a player of his size.
Both Jamison and Rip are a bit of a liability on defense.... I'd say Rip moreso, though.
Jamison perhaps needs to be slightly more consistent. But he's not too inconsistent.
That being said, I don't think Jamison would be better for the Pistons than Rip. And on the flipside, Rip would not be better for the Wizards than Jamison. They fit well with their current teams. But as far as who's better, I have to definitely rate Jamison higher.
gmal2003
03-06-06, 10:43 AM
Jamison is a better basketball player than Rip Hamilton. He may not have the "mid-range" shot that Rip has, but he has the ability to score like a monster. People forget what Jamison's capable of. Back to back 50 plus point games. He can score inside, he can hit the three. Add to that his above average ability to rebound the ball. It's impressive, especially for a player of his size.
Both Jamison and Rip are a bit of a liability on defense.... I'd say Rip moreso, though.
Jamison perhaps needs to be slightly more consistent. But he's not too inconsistent.
That being said, I don't think Jamison would be better for the Pistons than Rip. And on the flipside, Rip would not be better for the Wizards than Jamison. They fit well with their current teams. But as far as who's better, I have to definitely rate Jamison higher.
Good points. However, Rip has matured immensely on defense from his Wizard days. In fact, he had about a 5 game stretch this year were his opposing guards averaged under 10PPG. He shut down Ricky Davis twice this year. Lastly, he poses more of a challenge for defenders than Jamison because of his perpetual motion. He wears defenders down like no other which is another form of defense. They are close though. Like I said I love Jamison's game and respect it more than most, but he's not a guy i think you can count on night in and night out. Rip may not give you 50, but he's gonna give you at least 20 every night.
Kerborus
03-07-06, 09:22 AM
Jamison is a good player, but I'd give the edge to Rip. He's performed at the highest level and has done it against the best - Artest, Kobe, etc. Rip is very underated (apparently) on defense and works harder than most guards in this league. Rip has proven he can hit game winning shots in the playoffs and the regular season (twice this year). I think at best the edge goes to Hamilton and at worst they are even. They really don't play the same position even...
Kerborus
03-07-06, 11:39 AM
I agree. The Pistons have been getting outrebounded a lot lately which is weird. It be great if Ben Wallace plays like how he did in Game 5 2004 every night. That guy was a freaking monster in that game.
I think I read on the Free Press website that Billups agreed that the Pistons were lax of late. He said they were so tired that they were throwing up the easy 3's instead of banging on the block.
He also said it wasn't fair of the team to leave all of the rebounding up to Ben wallace every night.
Kerborus
03-13-06, 11:16 PM
50 wins in 62 games for Detroit. Looking good. They are a little out of focus right now, but it seems S.A. and Dallas are both in the same place. Detroit has an easy schedule coming up - only Miami looks like a possible loss. The Pistons may win 65 or more wins this season...
Dabaomb
03-19-06, 12:11 AM
50 wins in 62 games for Detroit. Looking good. They are a little out of focus right now, but it seems S.A. and Dallas are both in the same place. Detroit has an easy schedule coming up - only Miami looks like a possible loss. The Pistons may win 65 or more wins this season...
still not as good as that predicted 70+ that ppl were getting carried away with.
and how the hek did they lose to the Knicks?
MovieExchange
03-19-06, 07:16 AM
still not as good as that predicted 70+ that ppl were getting carried away with.
and how the hek did they lose to the Knicks?
That was a depressing loss. I didn't care how many games they won this season, all I wanted was for the Pistons to beat Larry Brown in all 4 of their meetings.
Kerborus
03-19-06, 11:02 AM
still not as good as that predicted 70+ that ppl were getting carried away with.
and how the hek did they lose to the Knicks?
The Pistons are in trouble there is no doubt. While they seemed to peak early in the season, Dallas and S.A. are peaking late and the Pistons, lost in their own headlines right now, are bored and listless. It's staggering to me that a team that was so focused early in the season has become the loose collection of parts that they are now. Flip has 17 games in which to return them to form, otherwise, they'll be playing game 7 of the finals on S.A.'s court and losing again. (That is of course if they make it past the sizzling Heat team that has found itself as well.)
Bushdog
03-19-06, 11:39 AM
still not as good as that predicted 70+ that ppl were getting carried away with.
and how the hek did they lose to the Knicks?It is hard to stay focused every game, esp. when you're in their position in the standings.
Dabaomb
03-19-06, 04:37 PM
It is hard to stay focused every game, esp. when you're in their position in the standings.
I realize that, but c'mon they lost to the Knicks!!!
That's like getting beat up by your lil sister.
Daryl
03-19-06, 04:58 PM
still not as good as that predicted 70+ that ppl were getting carried away with.
and how the hek did they lose to the Knicks?
sheed and rip got tossed in the 3rd quarter.
Kerborus
03-23-06, 12:09 AM
Never mind the NY game, the Pistons shattered the Heat in the 2nd half tonight after barely playing the first half and spotting the Heat a 12 pt. lead. Hamilton and Hunter hold Dwyane Wade to 3-15 shooting, a complete defensive domination. What a huge statement as to the true power in the East.
dre123
03-28-06, 11:13 AM
Pistons are a good team but they are not at all entertaining. When they came in together during the all star game I almost fell asleep.
Kerborus
03-30-06, 05:16 PM
Pistons are a good team but they are not at all entertaining. When they came in together during the all star game I almost fell asleep.
Yeah, you fell asleep while they keyed the team to victory. Guess you missed that part...
Pistons win 3 out of 4 against Dallas, Miami, Indiana (in indiana) and NJ. Pretty damn good. The defensive intensity seems to be returning to form again.
If the Heat and the Spurs are beset by injuries, the Pistons may cakewalk to the championship.
darkside
03-30-06, 10:17 PM
Pistons are a good team but they are not at all entertaining. When they came in together during the all star game I almost fell asleep.
When people talk about the Spurs and Pistons being boring teams I have to question why people watch basketball. Defense is part of the game and if anything both the Spurs and Pistons have shown a lot more offense this season than ever. I look forward to them both boring the entire country to death again in the Finals this year and hopefully for a couple more years to come.
Kerborus
03-30-06, 10:23 PM
When people talk about the Spurs and Pistons being boring teams I have to question why people watch basketball. Defense is part of the game and if anything both the Spurs and Pistons have shown a lot more offense this season than ever. I look forward to them both boring the entire country to death again in the Finals this year and hopefully for a couple more years to come.
:thumbsup:
I love it when people complain about selfish players and then hate team basketball. Spurs and Pistons are where basketball should be.
Dabaomb
03-30-06, 11:09 PM
Yeah, you fell asleep while they keyed the team to victory. Guess you missed that part...
Pistons win 3 out of 4 against Dallas, Miami, Indiana (in indiana) and NJ. Pretty damn good. The defensive intensity seems to be returning to form again.
If the Heat and the Spurs are beset by injuries, the Pistons may cakewalk to the championship.
Puhahhaha, the Pistons lost to the Nets at home :lol:
They lost to a team that you thought would finish 6th or lower in the lowly east :lol:
Kerborus
04-01-06, 11:22 AM
Puhahhaha, the Pistons lost to the Nets at home :lol:
They lost to a team that you thought would finish 6th or lower in the lowly east :lol:
Laugh it up, the Pistons boredom is your reward. The fact is the Nets will still get bounced from the playoffs in the second round. They suck. They will barely win 50 games this year. Next year won't be much better. Meanwhile the Pistons will be fighting the Heat to play in the finals and most likely will go and win another title. I'll be dancing a jig in your tears.
However, I was still wrong in underestimating just how bad their division was gonna be. Who could have foreseen such crap basketball on such a widespread basis? I think it's you that I owe ten bucks and a sig modification, right? Well, I'll pay up in full.
Kerborus
04-01-06, 11:23 AM
Joe Dumars will be elected to the NBA Hall of Fame on Monday! It's about time! One of the greatest players in Pistons history! Good for you, Joe!
Kerborus
04-02-06, 03:34 PM
I wonder if Dre123 watched today's Phoenix vs. Detroit game. I wonder if he found it at all entertaining?
The Pistons for the 2nd game in a row spotted the visiting team (this time a 17 pt. Suns lead) a large lead in the first half. For the 2nd game in a row they came out and dominated the second half and won against a great team. They also did this with Miami.
Are they really that bored with their competition? What would they be like if they put 4 qtrs. together? Probably would look like they did early in the season.
Billups put a huge feather in his cap in the race for league MVP. As he did against Miami, he outdueled the opposing team's star to seal victory.
Pistons are not playing their best b-ball but they have beaten Dallas, Miami, Indiana and Phoenix recently. Not bad for a bored team...
Kerborus
04-06-06, 11:02 PM
Wow. The Pistons look like they are ready for the playoffs. They go into Miami and completely SPANK the Heat by 13 points. The Heat looked confused most of the game and their injuries of late make them look like they won't make it past the NJ Nets, much less the Pistons.
Pistons look like they will win 65 + wins. Maybe they win the last 7 games and win 68? If so, those 2 pt. losses to the Hawks and Wizards loom large in the quest for 70...
Game985
04-07-06, 01:10 AM
So much for Sportscenter for saying the finals will be between Miami Heat and San Antonio Spurs last week LOL. As it looks now, the only 2 teams that look like they will make it to the eastern conference finals is Pistons and Nets.
Kerborus
04-07-06, 01:57 PM
The Pistons would love to play the Nets in the conf. finals. No Shaq, no Wade, they'd eat that up.
PopcornTreeCt
04-07-06, 10:39 PM
Wow, the Magic are finally looking like a contender again. We won't be making the playoffs but we could certainly be there next season.
dolphinboy
04-07-06, 10:53 PM
I'm still concerned that the Pistons, now with more O and less D, rely WAY too much on points outside the paint. If they stop shooting for a while, it could really bite them in the ass. In the past, the Eastern Conference was always a slug-fest, so they could get away with that against the Pacers.
I still think they should have moved Prince. He's way over-hyped and I believe other teams would have over-paid in a trade for him and we could have added a strong guy in who can score in the paint.
Ben has one role and Prince is hot and cold on offense, so when the Pistons get cold, you really have only 3 real options, 1 guy who can only score on a put back, and someone who's iffy.
I still think they'll probably go on and lose in the finals again to the Spurs.
Kerborus
04-08-06, 10:50 AM
I'm still concerned that the Pistons, now with more O and less D, rely WAY too much on points outside the paint. If they stop shooting for a while, it could really bite them in the ass. In the past, the Eastern Conference was always a slug-fest, so they could get away with that against the Pacers.
I still think they should have moved Prince. He's way over-hyped and I believe other teams would have over-paid in a trade for him and we could have added a strong guy in who can score in the paint.
Ben has one role and Prince is hot and cold on offense, so when the Pistons get cold, you really have only 3 real options, 1 guy who can only score on a put back, and someone who's iffy.
I still think they'll probably go on and lose in the finals again to the Spurs.
You should watch more Pistons games. Prince has been on fire of late, scoring well over 50% of his shots most of which have been in the paint. He's deveolped a fairly good hook shot and turn around jumper down low. Go read the Miami/Detroit recap and you will see the Heat were saying the Prince was the one player that had no answer for. Lastly, Prince brings a defensive presence and a demeanor to hit big shots that most people don't have.
As far as the Pistons D, I agree it's not as central as it used to be, but again, if you'd been watching lately you would see how suffocating it still is when they turn it on, say against Phoenix last week, holding them to 39 pts. or so in the 2nd half. They did the same to the Heat, stiflingthem down the stretch.
The Pistons will be ok. Boredom against teams like Orlando is their only real foe. With home court advantage, the gimpy Spurs will not beat them.
Kerborus
04-20-06, 12:00 AM
OK PISTONS FANS! It's HERE. The Playoffs! Let's make some noise!
I GUARANTEE A TITLE this year! That's how confident I am that the Pistons will win the title. They got the division, the east and the league and now they need to beat the Bucks, Cavs, Heat and Spurs to wear the crown again. It's a tall order but I say the Pistons do it in a fine fashion with perhaps a scare against the talented Heat.
Will the Pistons win the title? Will they OBLITERATE the competition? Will they even beat the HEAT? Does S.A. make it to the re-match with all of the injuries? Can't wait to watch and commentate as we go though this grueling ritual called the NBA Playoffs! Join me on this quest to piss off and on other teams fans and take the title!! ;)
Game985
04-20-06, 02:19 AM
How do you think the Pistons will do in the second round with theres a chance that they may be facing the Wizards? Besides the Jazz, they're the only team that can say they swept the Pistons this season. I think the Wizards gonna give them some trouble but Pistons will overcome it. It all really depends on Gilbert Arenas.
darkside
04-20-06, 07:44 AM
I GUARANTEE A TITLE this year!
Really going out on a limb there. :lol:
You stuck with them from the preseason so congrats and enjoy their playoff run. They will be almost impossible to stop since they are playing at such a high level and injuries have killed the chances of anyone that might have had a slight chance of stopping them.
zekeburger1979
04-20-06, 09:52 AM
My favorite stat of the season: A grand total of 0 games lost by the Piston starting 5 due to injury. I know Sheed missed a game due to a suspension and Billups missed one due to a death in the family.
My prediction on how the Pistons do?
1st round: Beat the Bucks in 5
2nd round: Beat the Cavaliers in 6
Conference Finals: Beat New Jersey in 6
NBA Finals: Beat San Antonio in 7 (Home court this time. Woohoo!)
Of all the Piston possibilities for awards, the most likely will be Ben Wallace for Defensive Player of the Year. Flip should win Coach, and Chauncey should win MVP.
Kerborus
04-20-06, 04:00 PM
How do you think the Pistons will do in the second round with theres a chance that they may be facing the Wizards? Besides the Jazz, they're the only team that can say they swept the Pistons this season. I think the Wizards gonna give them some trouble but Pistons will overcome it. It all really depends on Gilbert Arenas.
The Wizards numbers may be misleading. The first game was a doozy that was won in OT. Arenas was on fire that game. The last 2 wins were really as a result of the Pistons shutting down for the playoffs and resting players. A lot of their losses at the end of the season can be chalked up to that. The Pistons had a tendency to get bored during the season...
I agree that Washington may win a game or two, but the Pistons will prevail. I would say however, that I expect them to play the Cavs and Lebron in the second round...
Kerborus
04-20-06, 04:01 PM
My favorite stat of the season: A grand total of 0 games lost by the Piston starting 5 due to injury. I know Sheed missed a game due to a suspension and Billups missed one due to a death in the family.
My prediction on how the Pistons do?
1st round: Beat the Bucks in 5
2nd round: Beat the Cavaliers in 6
Conference Finals: Beat New Jersey in 6
NBA Finals: Beat San Antonio in 7 (Home court this time. Woohoo!)
Of all the Piston possibilities for awards, the most likely will be Ben Wallace for Defensive Player of the Year. Flip should win Coach, and Chauncey should win MVP.
I agree with everything you say except having NJ in the conference finals. I definately think Shaq will bring the Heat back to the conference finals for a showdown with those pesky Heat and Wade.
Kerborus
04-20-06, 04:02 PM
Really going out on a limb there. :lol:
You stuck with them from the preseason so congrats and enjoy their playoff run. They will be almost impossible to stop since they are playing at such a high level and injuries have killed the chances of anyone that might have had a slight chance of stopping them.
Glad you agree with me for once, Darkside :)
I wouldn't sell those other teams short, especially the Heat. The Spurs will also be there in the end.
Game985
04-20-06, 11:47 PM
The Wizards numbers may be misleading. The first game was a doozy that was won in OT. Arenas was on fire that game. The last 2 wins were really as a result of the Pistons shutting down for the playoffs and resting players. A lot of their losses at the end of the season can be chalked up to that. The Pistons had a tendency to get bored during the season...
I agree that Washington may win a game or two, but the Pistons will prevail. I would say however, that I expect them to play the Cavs and Lebron in the second round...
I say the Wizards will beat the Cavs in the first round. I wouldn't really call it an upset either. But the Cavs could take it if Lebron shows up every night scoring 40+ points. Also most importantly his teammates needs to step it up more. IMO this matchup for the first round series will be the most interesting to watching for the eastern conference.
Kerborus
04-24-06, 12:57 PM
One win down, 15 to go. A bit scary when Rip rolled his ankle. Big game by Sheed, nice to see him step up. Wallace (Ben) also played good on the boards. Billups looked bored. Two days off until the next game...
Kerborus
04-27-06, 11:15 AM
Two wins down, 14 to go! Again. Rip steps on Joe Smith's foot and rolls his ankle... What are the odds? Apparently, the defending Eastern champs are so boring, that they get exiled to NBA TV. Ridiculous... Instead, I had to watch a west coast stomping of the crap Grizzlies.
Kerborus
05-03-06, 10:27 PM
Okay, 4 wins down and 10 to go! Nice showing by the Pistons tonight. I love watching them play when they are interested.
I guess Rip's ankle is ok, as he dropped 40 points on Michael Redd and TJ Ford. Now they'll sit back and watch the other East teams battle...
edytwinky
05-03-06, 10:37 PM
Sigh.....Well from watching the Wizards/Cavs series, it's not going to be close again. Gotta hope Miami, NJ, or Indiana can step up in the Conference Finals
Kerborus
05-07-06, 06:24 PM
Wow, Pistons completely dominate the Cavs. That was one of their best games of the Year. Not sure what the Cavs can do against the Pistons...
RayChuang
05-07-06, 10:15 PM
Today's game might as well be described as "LeBron who?!" ;)
The Cow
05-07-06, 10:31 PM
Today's game might as well be described as "LeBron who?!" ;)
I would just give more props to the Pistons and make the headline:
Next?
darkside
05-07-06, 10:39 PM
Not sure what the Cavs can do against the Pistons...
I doubt the Cavs have any idea either. I at least expect Lebron to play hard and do every thing he can to compete. He won't just hang his team out to dry and not involve himself in the game like another so called MVP I can think of.
Hopefully the Eastern Conference Final will at least be a challenge for them, but I'm not betting money on it.
gmal2003
05-07-06, 11:18 PM
Complete domination by the Pistons. I think the Cavs might win one back home so Ill say Pistons in 5.
In other news, Ben Wallace won the Defensive Player of the Year award today which is is FOURTH in the last five years. He was the only player in the league that was Top 10 in rebounds, blocks, AND steals. The award should be named after him ;).
So where does Ben rank in terms of the greatest defensive players of all time? He's at least Top 5 as of right now IMHO.
The Cow
05-07-06, 11:22 PM
In other news, Ben Wallace won the Defensive Player of the Year award today which is is FOURTH in the last five years. He was the only player in the league that was Top 10 in rebounds, blocks, AND steals. The award should be named after him ;).
So where does Ben rank in terms of the greatest defensive players of all time? He's at least Top 5 as of right now IMHO.
Someone should make a thread about that!! -wink-
Jeremy517
05-07-06, 11:31 PM
Wow, Pistons completely dominate the Cavs. That was one of their best games of the Year. Not sure what the Cavs can do against the Pistons...
Off topic, but you do know that you're spelling Kerberos wrong, right? Or is that not the word you are going for?
Kerborus
05-08-06, 09:53 AM
Off topic, but you do know that you're spelling Kerberos wrong, right? Or is that not the word you are going for?
Yes, actually, I think the original Greek is Cerebus but I could be wrong. My name is taken from an anime series which I'm fond of and the translation had it spelled like that.
Kerborus
05-08-06, 09:56 AM
Someone should make a thread about that!! -wink-
Ooh me me! I'll make the thread!
Anyway, I've thought about this as well. I've said it many times, the Pistons would disintegrate without Wallace in the middle on both offense and defense. As weird as it seems, he makes the entire team go and I've never quite seen another player who didn't score the ball have that effect on a team as good as the Pistons are.
Very reminiscent of Bill Russell in my estimation, except Russel could actually score. Dennis Rodman is the other comparison that springs to mind, but I think Ben does more.
PJsig08
05-18-06, 03:16 PM
I would just give more props to the Pistons and make the headline:
Next?Amazing what a week can do.
Pistons in trouble.
Kerborus
05-18-06, 03:25 PM
Amazing what a week can do.
Pistons in trouble.
Agreed. Shocking...
Jeremy517
05-18-06, 03:26 PM
Yes, actually, I think the original Greek is Cerebus but I could be wrong. My name is taken from an anime series which I'm fond of and the translation had it spelled like that.
Ah, gotcha.
Kerborus
05-19-06, 11:44 PM
Phew...
Let's see what game 7 has in store for the Pistons faithful. Wil lthey find their game 1 and 2 form???
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