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Nesbit
11-02-05, 04:46 PM
According to those close to the situation, Spike TV has asked TNA to secure deals to feature more high-profile pro wrestling names on the weekly Impact episodes. The network believes that TNA’s only real chance at competing with WWE is to bring in the top former WCW and WWE names not currently signed to Vince McMahon's company.
Those within the wrestling industry disagree with Spike’s analysis, feeling that TNA will never beat WWE in the battle of “star power.” Its true hope of competing is to secure itself as the destination for great in-ring wrestling.
Source: PWTORCH
turborobb
11-02-05, 07:09 PM
I think bringing in a few big name stars for a short time could only help TNA make a name for themselves and to get the average joe wrestling fan to tune in. Scott Steiner, Bret Hart, DDP, Sandman, Lex Luger, Chyna, Randy Savage, Kanyon, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Buff Bagwell, Sting
Not to stink up the main event in every PPV, but have them in the upper mid card to help put over guys like Monty, Hoyt, Abyss, AJ, Killings, Samoa Joe, Daniels, Sabin, ect... or in the case of Nash or Hart maybe in a manager or backstage role.
I'd love to see a Piper's Pit type segment called Scott Hall's Happy Hour, it would be comedy gold.
Curse_7781
11-02-05, 08:00 PM
I think bringing in a few big name stars for a short time could only help TNA make a name for themselves and to get the average joe wrestling fan to tune in. Scott Steiner, Bret Hart, DDP, Sandman, Lex Luger, Chyna, Randy Savage, Kanyon, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Buff Bagwell, Sting
Not to stink up the main event in every PPV, but have them in the upper mid card to help put over guys like Monty, Hoyt, Abyss, AJ, Killings, Samoa Joe, Daniels, Sabin, ect... or in the case of Nash or Hart maybe in a manager or backstage role.
I'd love to see a Piper's Pit type segment called Scott Hall's Happy Hour, it would be comedy gold.
Your idea was so interesting, I wasn't even paying attention to the entire post. :rolleyes:
MovieExchange
11-02-05, 09:06 PM
I agree, big names are good if they're used to enhance the talent, and not bury it. The problem is that most of these bigger names believe that they are still stars and should be made champs again.
turborobb
11-03-05, 01:40 AM
Your idea was so interesting, I wasn't even paying attention to the entire post. :rolleyes:
huh? -confused-
:D
turborobb
11-03-05, 05:22 PM
TNA Announces The Signing Of Jackie Gayda News
November 3rd, 2005 15:26
TNA ANNOUNCES SIGNING OF NEWEST “TNA KNOCKOUT” JACKIE GAYDA
TNA Wrestling is proud to announce the signing of Jackie Gayda, becoming the latest “Knockout” to join Total Nonstop Action.
With Gail Kim and Traci already commanding the spotlight for Total Nonstop Action, it will be interesting to see if the addition of Gayda will lead to the sharpening of claws among TNA’s current femme fatales in the near future.
Gayda joins TNA after four years of in-ring competition and is a former winner of the “Tough Enough” series. In addition to her stunning beauty and athletic prowess, Gayda was also a track and field star and an All-Ohio athlete.
“It’s a very exciting time for me to join TNA Wrestling,” Gayda told TNAwrestling.com. “I’m proud to be the newest ‘TNA Knockout’ and given the opportunity to prove myself again, but let me say this – this time things are going to be a little different. There’s a certain situation going on that I plan to address, one that affects me on so many levels, but I’ll leave it at that for now. To all my fans – see you soon on SpikeTV!”
Check back to TNAwrestling.com in the upcoming weeks for an update on Jackie Gayda’s debut for TNA Wrestling!
mikewendt
11-03-05, 06:36 PM
Nice to hear about Jackie! Bring Nidia in next and they'll be headed towards an actual Women's WRESTLING Division...
devilshalo
11-03-05, 07:45 PM
Nice to hear about Jackie! Bring Nidia in next and they'll be headed towards an actual Women's WRESTLING Division...
DEAR LORD, PLEASE... NO WOMEN'S DIVISION! If they want to fight it out Francine/Beulah style, then go for it. Once in a while matches are fine, but I absolutely feel that a women's division is useless. (Y'know, like the WNBA)
movieking
11-03-05, 08:06 PM
So whatever happened to Nash? What was his health reasons for missing the PPV? I know he was having chest pains, but did anything else come out of it?
Curse_7781
11-03-05, 08:23 PM
DEAR LORD, PLEASE... NO WOMEN'S DIVISION! If they want to fight it out Francine/Beulah style, then go for it. Once in a while matches are fine, but I absolutely feel that a women's division is useless. (Y'know, like the WNBA)
Amen brother. While I respect TNA for bringing in more eye-candy for us guys, I don't want to watch women wrestle for 8-10 minutes when the boys in the locker-room could use that type of exposure.
I agree with a cat-fight though since those usually last about 1 and 1/2 minute, not to mention alot more interesting than an actual match between ladies. :eyebrow:
Curse_7781
11-03-05, 08:26 PM
So whatever happened to Nash? What was his health reasons for missing the PPV? I know he was having chest pains, but did anything else come out of it?
Nope. I heard the chest pains were a result of some medication he was taking....I kinda feel bad for him even though I don't like him as a wrestler. Oh well, not like he has any business being in a ring considering he's like old. yeah, not Hogan or Ric Flair old but still for an out of shape big guy, he has no business still wrestling. -ohbfrank-
dadaluholla
11-03-05, 09:43 PM
X-Division 6 Man Tag -AJ Styles, Sonjay Dutt & Austin Aries vs Samoa Joe, Alex Shelley & "The Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels
HOLY SHIT that was a fun match to watch. Damn I love TNA.
Curse_7781
11-03-05, 10:03 PM
X-Division 6 Man Tag -AJ Styles, Sonjay Dutt & Austin Aries vs Samoa Joe, Alex Shelley & "The Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels
HOLY SHIT that was a fun match to watch. Damn I love TNA.
I agree man. That match was the shit! :beer2:
Plus this Alex Shelly is really growing on me, this guy has a ton of character going on!
Did anyone catch those THREE, I repeat, THREE PPPPPOOOOOOUUUNNNNNNNNCCCCEEEEEE!
Period. :nopanic:
MovieMaster11
11-03-05, 11:26 PM
And HHH erm.... I mean Jeff Jarrett wins the title again.
MovieExchange
11-04-05, 07:53 AM
And HHH erm.... I mean Jeff Jarrett wins the title again.
That's the only thing that pisses me off about TNA is Triple J taking the belt over and over again. The X-division and the rest of the undercard, though, keeps me coming back. It's refreshing to have a show where there's more wrestling than talking.
raven56706
11-04-05, 08:39 AM
Good Event..... still no impressed with Monty Brown..... X Division is what keeps me coming back....
turborobb
11-04-05, 08:50 AM
Anyone notice when TNA spoiled the results of the Main Event last night? During a commercial for the Genesis PPV which aired BEFORE the Rhino Jarrett match they said "Rhino joins Team 3D in a 6 man tag against America's Most Wanted and the NWA World Champion Jeff Jarrett" duh!
the X-Division 6 Man was amazing! Austin Aires and Samoa Joe rock.
dadaluholla
11-04-05, 10:18 AM
Yeah the X-Division 6 Man tag was everything that is good about wrestling wrapped up in one match...it was even better than the Ultimate X match and that was pretty sweet too! God bless the X-Division.
I thought that leg drop onto Rhino on the table outside the ring was sick.
GuessWho
11-04-05, 10:29 AM
J E double F J E double R E double T got the belt back... surprise, surprise
raven56706
11-04-05, 10:53 AM
I can see it now.... He defeats ten more people and then loses.... only to regain it next primetime special.. lololol
MovieExchange
11-04-05, 11:35 AM
I have a feeling that Jarrett is going to hold the belt for a few months. AJ will drop the X-division belt to Samoa Joe, and go on to take the heavyweight belt from Jarrett (TNA did say that AJ is the man they're building the promotion around). While those of us that are long-time TNA fans would love to see the belt around AJ right now, this will allow TNA to build up AJ in the eyes of the new fans, and give him more credibility with them as champ.
Da Thrilla
11-04-05, 11:45 AM
I about marked out when Samoa Joe and A.J. faced off :drool: :eek: :up::up:
devilshalo
11-04-05, 12:30 PM
I liked all of the matches except one.
The Alphamale. Your best finisher is a shoulder tackle? -rolleyes- And he's so over-the-top animated.
I'll definately keep watching for the X-division.
raven56706
11-04-05, 01:13 PM
The Alphamale. Your best finisher is a shoulder tackle? -rolleyes- And he's so over-the-top animated.
i thought i was the only one....
dadaluholla
11-04-05, 01:34 PM
I liked all of the matches except one.
The Alphamale. Your best finisher is a shoulder tackle? -rolleyes- And he's so over-the-top animated.
I'll definately keep watching for the X-division.
Yeah I don't like him either. I thought maybe he had to do "the pounce" 3 times last night because thats how many it took to do any damage...or actually connect with the opponent.
devilshalo
11-04-05, 01:41 PM
I was more impressed with his overhead throw than the pounce. He threw that jobber pretty damn far. Then he ends with the shoulder tackle, which never looks like he hits squarely? He should take a closer look at some old school Road Warriors or Ron Simmons matches to know how to deliver a shoulder tackle. -ohbfrank-
raven56706
11-04-05, 01:58 PM
the pounce.... he looks like a mental and on Shrooms wrestler
ChrisHicks
11-04-05, 02:25 PM
are the ratings for this in yet?
Quake1028
11-04-05, 03:48 PM
The Original Playa from the Himalaya :lol:. That guy rules. AJ and Christopher Daniels might be the two best in-ring workers in wrestling today.
dadaluholla
11-04-05, 03:58 PM
Yeah I never would have thought one of my favorite wrestlers would be a guy named SONJAY DUTT, but dammit he seems to always put on one of the most enjoyable shows in the biz today. The moves he does like the little dance when he walks the top rope is hilarious.
Quake1028
11-04-05, 05:09 PM
Wow, what a TWO DAY title reign for Rhyno -rolleyes-. I have another Fed I can watch if I want to see someone constantly getting the World Title over much more deserving wrestlers.
MovieExchange
11-04-05, 06:38 PM
Wow, what a TWO DAY title reign for Rhyno -rolleyes-. I have another Fed I can watch if I want to see someone constantly getting the World Title over much more deserving wrestlers.
Yeah, but that other fed has a lot of other unwatchable bullshit. TNA has a solid card from bottom to almost top.
Quake1028
11-04-05, 11:33 PM
Yeah, but that other fed has a lot of other unwatchable bullshit. TNA has a solid card from bottom to almost top.
True, and I should have said that in my post.
mikewendt
11-05-05, 01:38 PM
Jarrett getting the title back, on Rhino's first defence, reeks of "too much power." I was happy with the rest of the show...
devilshalo
11-05-05, 02:18 PM
But overall the best part.. promos took no more than 5 mins of air time allowing for a lot of good, solid wrestling to actually happen.
movieking
11-06-05, 09:16 AM
It was no surprise that Rhino lost the title. He was never supposed to win it. Nash would have lost the match to Jarrett at the last PPV, but since Nash couldn't wrestle, to please the fans in his absence, they gave the title to a fan favorite, Rhino. Giving Jarrett back the title just puts the bookers back in the where they had planned to be after the PPV.
I love just about everything about TNA except Jarrett. It's obvious that TNA is grooming Monty Brown to take on Jarrett, but AJ Styles should be the heavyweight champion.
Nesbit
11-06-05, 01:36 PM
I'm trying to get into TNA but it just feels bush-league to me. Giving away the title match on the special was really annoying since they were the only two competitors that I knew on the show and I was looking forward to the match. I've watched almost every episode of impact but they haven't done a good job of selling who the wrestlers are. They need to devote a little more time to storyline and introducing their characters and get a normal ring. I understand it's unique but it doesn't really help the product in anyway it just hurts it. It reminds me of the XFL where they changed a bunch of rules just to say they're different.
Shagrath
11-06-05, 04:23 PM
They need to devote a little more time to storyline and introducing their characters and get a normal ring.
Some of us, and probably a good bit of the TNA fanbase is watching for the wrestling. I could give a shit who's a face or a heel, or what their gimmick is. If they can put on a good match, then I'll enjoy them. I think that's the way a lot of people want it, and TNA is trying to appease them, as well as the casual wrestling fans who want to cheer for the faces and boo the heels.
Manco
11-06-05, 07:43 PM
I love just about everything about TNA except Jarrett. It's obvious that TNA is grooming Monty Brown to take on Jarrett, but AJ Styles should be the heavyweight champion.
From what I've read AJ doesn't really want to be the Heavyweight champ as he's more comfortable in the X division.
They need to devote a little more time to storyline and introducing their characters and get a normal ring.
I think they would if they had a 2 hour show but its only an hour so they might was well focus on the wrestling.
turborobb
11-06-05, 09:06 PM
the problem with TNA is they have to introduce 20-30 characters all at the same time to the new veiwers and they only have an hour a week to do it, where as the WWE you already know all the characters, so when they bring in a new one, they can focus on that one for a few weeks.
I think they are doing a pretty good job, focusing on the heavyweight division characters and storylines where as the X-Division is really all about the wrestling... do we really care what Donjay Dutt, Samoa Joe or Austin Aries "storyline" is, all I need to know is that they rule in the ring.
Rypro 525
11-07-05, 12:52 AM
the "storyline's are what bring wwe down. we wrestling fans don't like a bad 20 min. promo/sketch that basically sets up the ppv, while with tna, its usually just a few minutes. (also, are the promo's/skits "fully scripted" in tna? I know the wwe has writers and the wrestlers for the most part in wwe have no freedom to go where they want to.
brainee
11-07-05, 12:23 PM
This show was my first exposure to TNA -- I've pretty much deleted WWE from my DVR in disgust/boredom. Good wrestling action, reminiscent of ECW. I especially liked the X-division matches. Spotfests get boring for me, but these matches kept my interest. There was just so much going on that I was glued to the tv. That flip pile-driver of Pete Williams was absolutely sick (but in a good way). Ho-hum title match though (maybe just because I think of JJ and Rhyno as jobbers).
What's the deal with the arena? Maybe I missed this at the start -- is this being filmed in some kind of free arena (like WCW did at Universal Florida)? Because the crowd, while loud, sounded fake. I don't mean in a pumped in sound way -- I could see people's mouths moving to make sound. But the chanting just seemed a little too organized and consistent. Every wrestler had a moment where you could hear "Let's Go [name]!" for him. In fact, with the exception of JJ (and maybe the Canadian guys) the chants would even alternate between all the guys wrestling, as if the crowd was full of fans of each wrestler. It's great if that was real, but do you know what I mean that it seemed a bit phoney?
scottall
11-07-05, 12:29 PM
I am not a fan of the dueling chants much either. They are decent in spots, but sound forced for the most part.
It seems like they are first exposing people to the product and then will develop more storylines. That is necessary since there should be a reason why I am watching people wrestle. I may not remember particular matches, but I remember storylines. That's what keeps me watching.
turborobb
11-07-05, 07:41 PM
What's the deal with the arena? Maybe I missed this at the start -- is this being filmed in some kind of free arena (like WCW did at Universal Florida)? Because the crowd, while loud, sounded fake. I don't mean in a pumped in sound way -- I could see people's mouths moving to make sound. But the chanting just seemed a little too organized and consistent. Every wrestler had a moment where you could hear "Let's Go [name]!" for him. In fact, with the exception of JJ (and maybe the Canadian guys) the chants would even alternate between all the guys wrestling, as if the crowd was full of fans of each wrestler. It's great if that was real, but do you know what I mean that it seemed a bit phoney?
actually, it's being filmed in the exact same studio in Universal Studios Florida that WCW used to use, and yes it's free. It's always a strange mix of serious hardcore wrestling fans and theme park tourists who have no idea whats going on.
I can tell you that all the chants are real, I live here in orlando and go to the TNA shows all the time. Yes, they do sound a bit fake on TV, but all those chants are the real thing. Many of the hardcore fans show up and cheer the "bad guys" so you get the double chants. If you listen realy close you can hear the Jarrett chants from me and his 3 other fans that show up! Double J Rules! :D
turborobb
11-07-05, 08:57 PM
if anyone missed it, Spike TV is replaying the two hour Prime Time special tonight at 1am
Shagrath
11-08-05, 08:26 AM
actually, it's being filmed in the exact same studio in Universal Studios Florida that WCW used to use, and yes it's free.
Actually, I believe WCW was filmed at MGM Studios, if I'm not mistaken. I was at the park back in '95 and wasn't really into wrestling then, but some guy came up and asked us if we wanted to be on TV for some live wrestling event. So, my friend and I went in for a while and watched a couple of matches and left. I'm pretty sure it was WCW, but I could be wrong. I don't know what else it would've been.
mlemmond
11-08-05, 09:26 AM
Well I bought the TNA Epic Anthology set last week and watched it over the weekend. Here are a few of my thought on their talent.
Jeff Jarrett - An average heel that's trying to make himself into a main event guy. Two problems though he can't wrestle with best people in his company and his promos all sound the same.
AJ Styles - This guy is a star! An awesome performer with incredible body control and timing.
Petey Williams - Amazing small guy.
Jeff Hardy - A high spot waiting to happen, other than that there isn't much there.
Abyss - Where have I seen this gimick before?
Chris Sabin - Another star TNA could make a living off of wars between Styles, Sabin, Williams and...
Christopher Daniels - Great performer that is actually capable of telling a story.
Matt Bentley - Very good and under used from what I saw.
Raven - Past his prime and getting sloppy.
The Alphamale - This guy is a joke he has no range of movement and no charisma. He also has no idea what he is doing when in the ring.
Americas Most Wanted - Best looking tag tem I've seen in awhile.
The rest of the guys weren't very memorable and far to many old WCW and WWE guys like Nash, Hall, Page, Road Dogg and Mr. Ass. The X Division and their tag teams are their saving grace. The sooner ther quit letting Jarrett carry the ball the better off they are also I think the need a few old school guys behind the scenes to help teach these guys how to tell a story in the ring and get the crowd on the edge of their seat with more than just stunts.
Doughboy
11-08-05, 11:34 AM
This show was my first exposure to TNA -- I've pretty much deleted WWE from my DVR in disgust/boredom. Good wrestling action, reminiscent of ECW.
Ditto. My buddy TIVO'd it, so I sat and watched about 45 minutes of the show. That 6-man tag match was sick! What I loved most about it aside from the great wrestling moves was how there was literally no downtime during the match. Just one move after another.
Also, while I couldn't care less about Jeff Jarrett, the look on Shane Douglas' face during Jarrett's promo about "making history" was classic.
I was already all but done with the WWF after they let Christian walk, but after catching some of TNA tonight, there's no way I'm going back to RAW.
GuessWho
11-08-05, 11:39 AM
The sooner they quit letting Jarrett carry the ball the better off they are
Who is your "they" who can "let" JJ have the title?
I thought JJ and his dad OWN the company -- JJ himself is "they" and doesn't have to answer to anyone.
scottall
11-08-05, 11:42 AM
I was already all but done with the WWF after they let Christian walk, but after catching some of TNA tonight, there's no way I'm going back to RAW.
It's really okay if you watch both. TNA will make the WWE much better than it has been lately.
turborobb
11-08-05, 12:03 PM
Actually, I believe WCW was filmed at MGM Studios, if I'm not mistaken. I was at the park back in '95 and wasn't really into wrestling then, but some guy came up and asked us if we wanted to be on TV for some live wrestling event. So, my friend and I went in for a while and watched a couple of matches and left. I'm pretty sure it was WCW, but I could be wrong. I don't know what else it would've been.
they used to do it at Disney MGM Studios then WCW moved to Universal Studios around 98 or 99, I live here and I used to go to them, so I'm pretty sure.
Shagrath
11-08-05, 01:05 PM
they used to do it at Disney MGM Studios then WCW moved to Universal Studios around 98 or 99, I live here and I used to go to them, so I'm pretty sure.
Ahhh, okay. I didn't realize they had moved it. I was on vacation here back in '95, and have lived here for the most part since '02.
turborobb
11-08-05, 01:27 PM
Ahhh, okay. I didn't realize they had moved it. I was on vacation here back in '95, and have lived here for the most part since '02.
oh cool, do you go to TNA tapings?
mlemmond
11-08-05, 02:35 PM
Who is your "they" who can "let" JJ have the title?
I thought JJ and his dad OWN the company -- JJ himself is "they" and doesn't have to answer to anyone.
Forgot about that. Antway Jarrett as the champ fpr long runs will kill them. There are rumors that Benoit is having the same contract trouble that Christian was. If that is true and if he leaves WWE, he and Christian could seriously upgrade TNA heavyweights and give them 2 legit main event guys.
turborobb
11-08-05, 02:46 PM
Am I the only one who loves Jarrett? He's one of the best heels in the business, a solid wrestler in the ring and great on he mic.
If not Jarrett who would TNA use, he's their only main event heel. He's either going to be the champ or be the number one heel going after the face champion.
Long live the King of the Mountain!
Originally Posted by GuessWho
Who is your "they" who can "let" JJ have the title?
I thought JJ and his dad OWN the company -- JJ himself is "they" and doesn't have to answer to anyone.
the Jarrett's started TNA but now own about 35% of the company. Jeff isn't on the booking team and doesn't write the storylines. The decision to put the title on Jarrett comes from the TNA creative people (Mike Tenay and others) and from Spike TV who wanted a big name as champion.
GuessWho
11-08-05, 03:10 PM
If you really loved Jarrett, you'd call him by his full name;
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