I have a question regarding the Criterion Collection, and BluRay/HD (I haven't kept up with the whole format war, so I'm not sure which they're going with). Does anybody know: will they start the collection over again? That is, will there be new spine numbers for the new format? I assume they'll re-release a lot, if not all of their titles. Say Rushmore gets re-released first...will that then be number 1, or will it keep it's spine number, and Grand Illusion will be number one whenever it gets it's re-release however long thereafter?
-JP
William Fuld
10-12-05, 01:13 PM
Interesting question. I think it's too early to say what they'll do, but if I were Criterion I'd start the collection over, just like they did with the transition from laserdisc to dvd.
pagansoul
10-12-05, 01:15 PM
How did they do the Laser Disc? Did they number them? I would think they would rethink some of their choices so dup'ing the numbers may not be wise. They may not get the same rights over again which prevents them from re-releasing some of their earlier OOPs.
DthRdrX
10-12-05, 01:24 PM
I have a question regarding the Criterion Collection, and BluRay/HD (I haven't kept up with the whole format war, so I'm not sure which they're going with). Does anybody know: will they start the collection over again? That is, will there be new spine numbers for the new format? I assume they'll re-release a lot, if not all of their titles. Say Rushmore gets re-released first...will that then be number 1, or will it keep it's spine number, and Grand Illusion will be number one whenever it gets it's re-release however long thereafter?
-JP
Well, the spine numbers worked for selling dvds so I'm sure they will start over with them again. I don't see much of any pattern regarding the numbers now so who knows how they will do it in the future.
Criterion has a lot of films mastered in HD and ready to go so I would assume they will begin throwing them out as soon as they can afford to. That would be better than losing the rights to a film they have already mastered in HD before they can release it.
NatrlBornThrllr
10-12-05, 02:12 PM
I ask simply because I'm not sure if they'll consider the HD/DVD's a mere rerelease of their current DVD titles (comparable to "M," or "Charade," and so forth). If they do consider it all the same catelogue (technically still "DVD," even if souped up with HD technology), I assume they'd keep the same spine numbers. However, if they view the next format as entirely separate from DVD, I wouldn't put it past them to start the catelogue from scratch.
It's just something that crossed my mind earlier. We shall see. Personally, I'm not sure which I'd prefer. It'd be nice for my old Criterions (which I doubt I'll double-dip on in most instances) to remain a part of the most up-to-date collection, so that part of me wants them to keep going from spine number 450 or wherever they are when this new format hits. The other part of me, the logical, completist part, wouldn't mind them calling an end to the collection with the new format, since I'd then have a finite collection to attempt to build, as opposed to one that grows further and further out of my reach on every Tuesday.
To make this thread a bit more useful since it's all just speculation at this point: which would you prefer? Keep the collection going, or start fresh from spine #1?
-JP
Ginwen
10-12-05, 02:17 PM
I'm sure they'll start over. They're a business, and they'll make more money that way. Also, if/when they release on a new format, they aren't going to be releasing the same movies in the same order, so no reason to keep the same numbers in a totally new format.
KaBOB
10-12-05, 02:18 PM
They numbered the laserdiscs, and up until recently, the number of laserdiscs were higher. Some movies released on laserdisc were never released on Criterion DVDs.
I think they should just start over from spine #1 but probably shouldn't rerelease anything unless its visually important.
jpfisher
10-12-05, 02:22 PM
I'd prefer them to keep going -- new titles in the new format get a new Spine # whereas reissues of existing catalog titles in the new format get the same number (eg, if they put out "Seven Samurai" in HDDVD/Blu-Ray it would be #2).
The transition from Laserdiscs to DVD is going to be completely different from the transition from DVD to HDDVD/Blu-Ray from a market perspective.
-- Jim
andicus
10-12-05, 02:25 PM
I'd prefer them to start over, and it really makes the most sense. Otherwise they would have gaps in the HD collection for the lapsed rights titles.
digitalfreaknyc
10-12-05, 02:27 PM
They have to start over. There will be movies currently on DVD that will NEVER been on Blu-ray in their Criterion form...unless Criterion owns exclusive rights to them.
jpfisher
10-12-05, 02:36 PM
^
I might be a little selfish here, but if they start over with the numbering and reissue a title with a different spine #, it's going to bother those of us who are working on completing the entire regular DVD collection. Let's say Armageddon for an example, Criterion puts it out as HD/BluRay -- and they make it spine #4. Now I buy that, do I have any reason to keep a copy of spine #40 Armageddon DVD? No. But now I've got a hole in my shelf between Tokyo Drifter and Henry V and the OCD side of me is not happy about that.
Honestly, is anyone going to shelve their HD/Blu-Ray discs separately from their DVDs? I'd imagine most people will take whatever scheme they've developed and intermingle the titles. The mentality here is that this is an "upgrade" of the DVD format -- not something completely different from it (a la laserdisc and VHS). The cases are probably going to be about the same, the discs are going to look the same -- and I'd imagine you'll see players that are backwards compatible with DVD once whichever format wins goes mainstream.
It just makes more sense to "press on" rather than starting fresh to me -- as a consumer who has thrown thousands of dollars Criterion's way over the years that's my input. At the end of the day that's really what's going to make the decision for Criterion -- what makes more sense for their customers, which will in turn help maximize their profits.
-- Jim
jmj713
10-12-05, 02:50 PM
I think they might release them in both formats, SD and HD.
DthRdrX
10-12-05, 03:30 PM
^
I might be a little selfish here, but if they start over with the numbering and reissue a title with a different spine #, it's going to bother those of us who are working on completing the entire regular DVD collection. Let's say Armageddon for an example, Criterion puts it out as HD/BluRay -- and they make it spine #4. Now I buy that, do I have any reason to keep a copy of spine #40 Armageddon DVD? No. But now I've got a hole in my shelf between Tokyo Drifter and Henry V and the OCD side of me is not happy about that.
Honestly, is anyone going to shelve their HD/Blu-Ray discs separately from their DVDs? I'd imagine most people will take whatever scheme they've developed and intermingle the titles. The mentality here is that this is an "upgrade" of the DVD format -- not something completely different from it (a la laserdisc and VHS). The cases are probably going to be about the same, the discs are going to look the same -- and I'd imagine you'll see players that are backwards compatible with DVD once whichever format wins goes mainstream.
It just makes more sense to "press on" rather than starting fresh to me -- as a consumer who has thrown thousands of dollars Criterion's way over the years that's my input. At the end of the day that's really what's going to make the decision for Criterion -- what makes more sense for their customers, which will in turn help maximize their profits.
-- Jim
It is sad that a number on the side of the cover is what helps maxamize their profits. Regardless, we all know it is working great for them.
In the same sense that you mention they should keep going with the spine numbers for BR, wouldn't that irk current loyal customers who don't want to upgrade to HD?
PopcornTreeCt
10-12-05, 04:00 PM
As a big Criterion collector here are my 2 cents for what it's worth. If and a big "IF" HD-DVD/Blu-Ray catches on I'm sure Criterion will jump on the bandwagon. I don't think Criterion will be one of the pioneers of the new format. Second, I doubt it will make Criterion DVDs any less important to the fans as I'm sure many many movies will not be ported over.
digitalfreaknyc
10-12-05, 04:03 PM
If they changed it for DVD from Laserdisc, there's no reason to think they WOULDN'T change it from DVD to Blu-ray.
As far as if I will store BR with my DVD's, who knows? Until I see a finished product, I have no idea if i will or not. I have no idea what the cases will look like. Obviously they'll need to do something that will differentiate it so I'm assuming it won't look exactly the same. Either way, I can't wait to dump regular DVD for HD.
NatrlBornThrllr
10-12-05, 04:12 PM
But now I've got a hole in my shelf between Tokyo Drifter and Henry V and the OCD side of me is not happy about that.
Honestly, is anyone going to shelve their HD/Blu-Ray discs separately from their DVDs? I'd imagine most people will take whatever scheme they've developed and intermingle the titles. The mentality here is that this is an "upgrade" of the DVD format -- not something completely different from it (a la laserdisc and VHS). The cases are probably going to be about the same, the discs are going to look the same -- and I'd imagine you'll see players that are backwards compatible with DVD once whichever format wins goes mainstream.
Exactly.
-JP
bboisvert
10-12-05, 04:15 PM
If they changed it for DVD from Laserdisc, there's no reason to think they WOULDN'T change it from DVD to Blu-ray.
Exactly.
This is exactly like the LD/DVD situation... they were still releasing Laserdiscs when they put out DVDs. And they started over with the numbers for DVD.
They'll do the same thing with Blu-ray. Different format, different spine #s. One really shouldn't have anything to do with the other.
And, honestly, if someone is enough of a completist to worry about a missing spine # in their DVD collection, they wouldn't upgrade the DVD in the first place, would they? Or at the very least they'd keep both the Blu-ray and DVD versions, so as to not interrupt the beautiful numbers running down their shelves.
milo bloom
10-12-05, 04:16 PM
I go with starting over. They did it for the transition from LD to DVD. I'm sure there were people who had a complete LD collection on laserdisc, and also bought the reissues on DVD. It's really not that big of a deal, besides like was said, it does give you finite goal for completing a DVD collection.
Brain Stew
10-12-05, 04:16 PM
I'm not really that excited about Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Honestly, the only movies that will be able to take advantage of HD will be post 2000 releases. I just can't see myself getting excited about an HD transfer of a movie from the 60s. I don't even see how you can increase the image clarity on an older analog source.
Oh well, we'll see.
chente
10-12-05, 04:23 PM
Exactly.
This is exactly like the LD/DVD situation... they were still releasing Laserdiscs when they put out DVDs. And they started over with the numbers for DVD.
They'll do the same thing with Blu-ray. Different format, different spine #s. One really shouldn't have anything to do with the other.
And, honestly, if someone is enough of a completist to worry about a missing spine # in their DVD collection, they wouldn't upgrade the DVD in the first place, would they? Or at the very least they'd keep both the Blu-ray and DVD versions, so as to not interrupt the beautiful numbers running down their shelves.
It isn't exactly the same thing. In all likelihood, you will still be able to play DVD's on a HDDVD machine. I never had any success playing a LD in my DVD player ;) They might go the CLV/CAV route and use a single number with a subletter like 45A (DVD) and 45B (HDDVD) but I hope not.
I personally hope they don't start renumbering from 1 again.
DthRdrX
10-12-05, 04:27 PM
I'm not really that excited about Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Honestly, the only movies that will be able to take advantage of HD will be post 2000 releases. I just can't see myself getting excited about an HD transfer of a movie from the 60s. I don't even see how you can increase the image clarity on an older analog source.
Oh well, we'll see.
I can assure you that if the film master is in good condition you will notice a huge difference.
chente
10-12-05, 04:27 PM
I go with starting over. They did it for the transition from LD to DVD. I'm sure there were people who had a complete LD collection on laserdisc, and also bought the reissues on DVD. It's really not that big of a deal, besides like was said, it does give you finite goal for completing a DVD collection.
That is kind of nice. For the fun of it, I'm working on a complete LD collection. I've picked up close to 40 titles over the last two years mainly concentrating on titles with exclusive content like commentaries, scripts and other extras.
bboisvert
10-12-05, 04:28 PM
I never had any success playing a LD in my DVD player ;)
I did:
http://www.oz.net/blam/LaserDisc/DVL-700.htm ;)
The point is that they are two entirely different formats. To reverse your analogy, you won't be able to play a Blu-ray disc on your current DVD player. Different format.
When Criterion embraces the new format (which, judging from their DVD releases, will be pretty early on), I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that they'll start from #1.
milo bloom
10-12-05, 04:30 PM
I'm not really that excited about Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Honestly, the only movies that will be able to take advantage of HD will be post 2000 releases. I just can't see myself getting excited about an HD transfer of a movie from the 60s. I don't even see how you can increase the image clarity on an older analog source.
Oh well, we'll see.
It's been pointed out, but please tell me you're joking? DVD has barely scratched the surface of the depth and detail of film.
bboisvert
10-12-05, 04:33 PM
Honestly, the only movies that will be able to take advantage of HD will be post 2000 releases.
I keep seeing this quote everywhere... can you please explain it to me?
What magically happened in the past 5 years to make movies HD-ready? High Definition, while a giant leap forward in the TV realm, is still lower resolution than film. Properly mastered, you'll see a huge difference in just about all movies... even ones made decades ago.
Brain Stew
10-12-05, 04:33 PM
It's been pointed out, but please tell me you're joking? DVD has barely scratched the surface of the depth and detail of film.
I wasn't. I guess I don't have all the facts. That's why I said we'll see. I would rather wait for a demonstration than jump into HD-DVD/Blu-Ray.
chente
10-12-05, 04:37 PM
I did:
http://www.oz.net/blam/LaserDisc/DVL-700.htm ;)
The point is that they are two entirely different formats. To reverse your analogy, you won't be able to play a Blu-ray disc on your current DVD player. Different format.
When Criterion embraces the new format (which, judging from their DVD releases, will be pretty early on), I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that they'll start from #1.
Cool combo player. Any good?
Not the same thing. If you are going to be playing HDDVD's you will need a new player. If you have a HDDVD player, you will still be able to play DVDs on it so it would be possible to keep the same numbering scheme even if Criterion releases only HDDVD's.
jpfisher
10-12-05, 04:39 PM
It is sad that a number on the side of the cover is what helps maxamize their profits. Regardless, we all know it is working great for them.
In the same sense that you mention they should keep going with the spine numbers for BR, wouldn't that irk current loyal customers who don't want to upgrade to HD?
Sad? I don't agree with that -- Criterion is in business to make money. They've found a model that helps facilitate that, and at the same time they are doing good work by helping to restore and present films that otherwise wouldn't have the same care given (for example, look at the Criterion Sid & Nancy vs. the MGM edition)
As a big Criterion collector here are my 2 cents for what it's worth. If and a big "IF" HD-DVD/Blu-Ray catches on I'm sure Criterion will jump on the bandwagon. I don't think Criterion will be one of the pioneers of the new format. Second, I doubt it will make Criterion DVDs any less important to the fans as I'm sure many many movies will not be ported over.
I don't see Criterion switching over until a clear format is decided on -- look how long it took them even to offer anamorphic transfers because of concerns of how they looked on 4:3 displays. I wouldn't expect Criterion to be releasing any HiDef format discs until (a) a winner is decided in the format war and (b) you can get a player for under $300.
And, honestly, if someone is enough of a completist to worry about a missing spine # in their DVD collection, they wouldn't upgrade the DVD in the first place, would they? Or at the very least they'd keep both the Blu-ray and DVD versions, so as to not interrupt the beautiful numbers running down their shelves.
I'm a completist but I'm not made of money. If I get a better version of a disc the old one goes out the window, whether eBay, FYE or a trade. Blu-Ray (or HD DVD if it wins out in the end) is not the same change as Laser --> DVD. DVD has so much momentum as a medium that companies would be idiotic not to present Blu-Ray as the next version of DVD. "This is DVD but only better" should be the sales pitch.
I'm not really that excited about Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Honestly, the only movies that will be able to take advantage of HD will be post 2000 releases. I just can't see myself getting excited about an HD transfer of a movie from the 60s. I don't even see how you can increase the image clarity on an older analog source.
Couldn't disagree more -- 35mm film has a hell of a lot more resolution than 480 lines -- or 1080 lines for that matter. Ideally we all have nice prints of all the films we love in our homes and project them in a dark room, but that's not practical so compressed video in the form of 1's and 0's is what we get. "Analog" is not a dirty word as far as quality is concerned when dealing with a medium like film.
-- Jim
DthRdrX
10-12-05, 04:44 PM
Sad? I don't agree with that -- Criterion is in business to make money. They've found a model that helps facilitate that, and at the same time they are doing good work by helping to restore and present films that otherwise wouldn't have the same care given (for example, look at the Criterion Sid & Nancy vs. the MGM edition)
-- Jim
I'm sorry. Let me rephrase. It is SAD that people buy Criterion products to have a number on the side. I never said I blamed Criterion for their business ideas.
Also, I can't see Criterion letting good HD transfers potentially go to waste by sitting on them too long. I.E. losing film rights.
Brain Stew
10-12-05, 04:49 PM
I do think that Criterion may have a problem securing more mainstream titles when these formats come out. The studios know how much money DVDs bring in so they will be even less likely to sell the rights to Criterion for some things. IMO.
DthRdrX
10-12-05, 05:01 PM
As far as the merits of HD vs DVD vs LD/VHS I'll throw this up since people keep suggesting it is not that much of an improvement.
From a PQ perspective the jump to HD is much larger than the one from LD/VHS to DVD. Resolution is not the only advantage of HD material. That depends on how large your display is and how far away you are seated. The following shots will show one huge benefit HD brings in regard to color. It will also show how muted standard dvd color really is.
LOTR DVD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers01DVD.jpg) LOTR HD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers01HD.jpg)
LOTR2 DVD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers02DVD.jpg) LOTR2 HD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers02HD.jpg)
LOTR3 DVD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers03DVD.jpg) LOTR3 HD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers03HD.jpg)
William Fuld
10-12-05, 05:06 PM
I'm a completist but I'm not made of money. If I get a better version of a disc the old one goes out the window, whether eBay, FYE or a trade. Blu-Ray (or HD DVD if it wins out in the end) is not the same change as Laser --> DVD. DVD has so much momentum as a medium that companies would be idiotic not to present Blu-Ray as the next version of DVD. "This is DVD but only better" should be the sales pitch.
-- Jim
You can bet whichever format wins out is going to be touted as the "NEXT BIG THING!!!", not the "old" thing improved.
William Fuld
10-12-05, 05:10 PM
I do think that Criterion may have a problem securing more mainstream titles when these formats come out. The studios know how much money DVDs bring in so they will be even less likely to sell the rights to Criterion for some things. IMO.
That's true, but Criterion's strength isn't releasing mainstream titles now anyway.
bboisvert
10-12-05, 05:18 PM
Cool combo player. Any good?
For LDs, absolutely. I still use this as my primary LD player and it's still going strong. Great picture quality.
The DVD side of things is something else entirely (which isn't surprising, since it was a 1st gen player). Black levels are messed up, pic quality isn't great, it isn't progressive, no DTS, etc.
I'd recommend it in a heartbeat as a LD player (and I was very happy with the DVD performance for the first few years I had it, 1999-2000 or so). But it is inadequate as a DVD player in this day and age.
PopcornTreeCt
10-12-05, 07:09 PM
It's been pointed out, but please tell me you're joking? DVD has barely scratched the surface of the depth and detail of film.
Yes, because I want to see the scratches on the film even clearer now.
Atreus
10-12-05, 07:25 PM
I'm still waiting to start collecting the Criterion UMD Collection. :D
NatrlBornThrllr
10-12-05, 07:34 PM
I'm sorry. Let me rephrase. It is SAD that people buy Criterion products to have a number on the side.
What exactly is sad about it? People collect things. The Criterion collection features numbers on the spines, so collectors know exactly what holes in their set need to be filled. That, paired with the fact that Criterion consistantly releases amazing movies (thus far, I've been disappointed with exactly two of the movies they've released, mainstream billpayers aside), and you have a hell of a collection for somebody to attempt to build. It can be compared to somebody putting together a set of sportscards. You may find it "sad," but they enjoy their collection. No need to get all "my way of collecting it better than yours" condescending on us.
-JP
DthRdrX
10-12-05, 08:26 PM
What exactly is sad about it? People collect things. The Criterion collection features numbers on the spines, so collectors know exactly what holes in their set need to be filled. That, paired with the fact that Criterion consistantly releases amazing movies (thus far, I've been disappointed with exactly two of the movies they've released, mainstream billpayers aside), and you have a hell of a collection for somebody to attempt to build. It can be compared to somebody putting together a set of sportscards. You may find it "sad," but they enjoy their collection. No need to get all "my way of collecting it better than yours" condescending on us.
-JP
I'm sorry you feel my labeling of people who pay 30+ for a spine number only as condescending. I guess it is great for people with more money to burn.
Thanks for bringing up sports cards. I stopped collecting them when I was a teen b/c it went from a hobby that kids could enjoy to 3$+ packs with six gold foil cards in them. I guess we have collectors to thank for that? Regardless, to each his own.
jpfisher
10-12-05, 11:18 PM
^
Why is it that people on these message boards are so quick to offer their opinions on how others should spend their money/live their lives/enjoy themselves/etc ?
A lot of bitterness in your opinion there "I guess it is great for people with more money to burn." implies to me that you would be buying every CC title if you could afford it.
If someone wants to pick up a CC title because of the general quality of their selections and releases -- great! If someone wants to get them all the spine #'s and watch all the movies -- great! If someone wants to buy them all and leave them sealed because they enjoy collecting -- great!
It takes all kinds to move the world, and things would be generally more pleasant if people weren't so quick to judge others' activities. The bottom line is that you should be able to spend your money however you see fit without people harping on you about your choices -- in the end they are YOUR choices to make and no one else's.
Sorry, letting the Libertarian in me jump out there, but I thought it had to be said.
-- Jim
Josh Z
10-12-05, 11:35 PM
Criterion has not committed to either Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. I believe they're planning to sit tight until the format war is sorted out.
InnocentBlood
10-13-05, 01:14 AM
Criterion has not committed to either Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. I believe they're planning to sit tight until the format war is sorted out.
that's a good move, imo.
Fincher Fan
10-13-05, 07:24 AM
If you swing by Otter, you'll find the favourite topic is toilet action.
chente
10-13-05, 04:06 PM
As far as the merits of HD vs DVD vs LD/VHS I'll throw this up since people keep suggesting it is not that much of an improvement.
From a PQ perspective the jump to HD is much larger than the one from LD/VHS to DVD. Resolution is not the only advantage of HD material. That depends on how large your display is and how far away you are seated. The following shots will show one huge benefit HD brings in regard to color. It will also show how muted standard dvd color really is.
LOTR DVD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers01DVD.jpg) LOTR HD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers01HD.jpg)
LOTR2 DVD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers02DVD.jpg) LOTR2 HD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers02HD.jpg)
LOTR3 DVD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers03DVD.jpg) LOTR3 HD (http://www.feldoncentral.com/hdtv/Starz/examples/LOTR_TheTwoTowers03HD.jpg)
That's a pretty noticeable difference in color. Are you sure there isn't other factors at play besides the jump in resolution?
steelpotato
10-13-05, 06:19 PM
I strongly hope Criterion start again. I only got into DVDs in 2000 and being in New Zealand and 15 years old, had never heard of it.
the marshal
10-13-05, 10:46 PM
HD has better color than dvd, but I really don't believe those capture. The difference in color are way to big, they doesn't look the same at all...
blindrocket
10-13-05, 11:24 PM
I hope the spine numbers start over again, if nothing else just to make the collectors squirm a little. ;)
lamphorn
10-14-05, 04:27 PM
This coming format is great, but really, I think it's further off from mainstream acceptance than a lot of us think. It's only worth getting into if you have an HD TV. The machines are likely to be very expensive at first, and there will be uncertanty about the format since studios and electronics companies are dividing themselves over it. Some movie studios will be Blu-Ray and some HDDVD?? That's crazy. For now, an HD TV of a decent size (over 30 inches) is way way way out of my price range and will be for at least a few years, so I will not be adopting this new format this year or the next or the next or the next, and most people won't either since most people aren't terribly technically savvy or rich.
I love Criterion. I'm sure they'll make the right choices when the time comes. Couldn't care less about the spine numbers.
DthRdrX
10-14-05, 06:05 PM
^
Why is it that people on these message boards are so quick to offer their opinions on how others should spend their money/live their lives/enjoy themselves/etc ?
A lot of bitterness in your opinion there "I guess it is great for people with more money to burn." implies to me that you would be buying every CC title if you could afford it.
If someone wants to pick up a CC title because of the general quality of their selections and releases -- great! If someone wants to get them all the spine #'s and watch all the movies -- great! If someone wants to buy them all and leave them sealed because they enjoy collecting -- great!
It takes all kinds to move the world, and things would be generally more pleasant if people weren't so quick to judge others' activities. The bottom line is that you should be able to spend your money however you see fit without people harping on you about your choices -- in the end they are YOUR choices to make and no one else's.
Sorry, letting the Libertarian in me jump out there, but I thought it had to be said.
-- Jim
No, I mean if you have the money to burn on the Criterion collection great for you. It was not intended as a slam so I'm truely sorry if you read it that way.
BTW, I have 90% of the Criterion collection. Payed big bucks to get the OOP titles back in 2001. I could care less what others buy, as the more copies Criterion sells of a more mainstream movie might get a copy of Ran funded that much quicker. Regardless, sorry if you thought I was putting you down.
DthRdrX
10-14-05, 06:14 PM
HD has better color than dvd, but I really don't believe those capture. The difference in color are way to big, they doesn't look the same at all...
Thats the point. The color difference is that big. Pop in the dvd of the Two Towers and check it out. Go to the chapter, The Black Gate.
Buy: