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namrfumot
09-26-05, 07:17 PM
The pics arent the greatest, but they'll do (I tried to make them small in size). I mainly collect German items, but I do have many Russian and American items (no Japanese). I'm vert particular and everything has to have a maker's mark and/or date. Anyone else here collect?

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4374/dsc005459mz.jpg
Mess kit

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/143/dsc005290ht.jpg
A small flag brought home by my grandfather


http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1114/dsc005476sd.jpg
A breadbag

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5575/dsc005466yb.jpg
Ammo pouches

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4344/dsc005314zx.jpg
A Volkstrumm armband

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/133/dsc005499rn.jpg
A Hitler Youth canteen

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4008/dsc005526mm.jpg
A gas mask canister (mask is inside)

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/143/dsc005484uf.jpg
A more typical canteen with matching cup

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2062/dsc005340sp.jpg
A standard K98 bayonet and a dress bayonet (both have matchig scabbards and frogs)

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2756/dsc005355fm.jpg
Belt buckle with the "God is with us" inscription

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6458/dsc005360aj.jpg
Giant flag my grandfather also brought home


http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7259/dsc005376so.jpg
A Luftwaffe lantern - used to light landing strips or to be carried by downed pilots. There is a good story behind this. A veteran brought it home and his wife painted it green and used it at Xmas time! It has since been restored.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5962/dsc005380ju.jpg
Nazi party armband - still has paper tag inside

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/387/dsc005406hr.jpg
Bottom of a Luftwaffe coffee mug. You can clearly see the maker's mark & year.

I also have MANY other items - silverware, photos, books, ration cards, death cards, medals (Iron Cross 2nd class), even a Luftwaffe gravy boat! If anyone would like I'd glady take some pics

DodgingCars
09-26-05, 07:22 PM
Cool.

namrfumot
09-26-05, 07:23 PM
Before any asks, I'm a history teacher who specialized in WWII while in college. My grandfather gave me his "liberated" souveiners and I've been a collector ever since.

There are so many knock offs out there you really have to know your stuff when buying. I usually pay a premium to buy them from a respected dealer.

Lemdog
09-26-05, 07:30 PM
Seeing things like the arm band makes me wonder who wore it, or who drank form the coffee mug.

Lateralus
09-26-05, 07:30 PM
Good Stuff :up: but you need one of these bad boys:


http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPages/Misc/images/S-304.JPG

Save Ferris
09-26-05, 07:34 PM
Makes me wonder what kind of stuff our boys are bringing home from Iraq.

namrfumot
09-26-05, 07:34 PM
Lat the "honor" rings are copied so often it's almost impossible to tell if they're real, the repos are THAT good. :(

Lateralus
09-26-05, 07:41 PM
You should hook up with that girl that did the Chernobyl bike tour that was posted a couple years back. She was digging around the WWII battle fields in Kiev and she found all sorts of good stuff, including Nazi helmets and those round back packs and machine guns that were still laying on the ground.

MJKTool
09-26-05, 07:43 PM
why collect nazi shit? i dont get it?

Brent L
09-26-05, 07:49 PM
Lat the "honor" rings are copied so often it's almost impossible to tell if they're real, the repos are THAT good. :(

My family has a couple of those very same rings, I'll take pictures of them sometime. My grandfather brought home quite a bit of items too from WWII. When I was in middle school I used most of them in a History Day project, and won grand prize. I even made a tape of my grandfather telling all sorts of war stories.

Some of my favorite items are simply pictures of the enemy, both in battle and candid shots. It's like a mirror into the other side.

Lateralus
09-26-05, 07:50 PM
Good reading:

http://www.theserpentswall.com/index.html

Mopower
09-26-05, 07:54 PM
why collect nazi shit? i dont get it?


It's history. You throw away that stuff and forget about it the greater the chances of it happing again.

FiveO
09-26-05, 08:26 PM
Very nice collection.

What does some of that stuff cost? Just curious.

mikehunt
09-26-05, 08:29 PM
cool pics
I have a mauser 98 that that bayonet would fit on. I think mine is a Yugoslavian. Also have a bayonet for it
also have an M1 Garand from 1943 with the long version bayonet none of those lame short ones from the Korean War, an USGI M1 Carbine from sometime in the 40s (having trouble finding a site listing manufacture date by serial number for M1 Carbines), Russian Mosin Nagant M44 from 1944, and a 1903A3 from 1942

Hiro11
09-26-05, 08:32 PM
Good reading:

http://www.theserpentswall.com/index.html
Thanks for reposting that. Great site.

namrfumot
09-26-05, 08:42 PM
AS with all collectibles, condition and rarity are what set the price. You can pick up a crappy baynoet with nonmatching numbers for $60. Get one with matching numbers and a good frog and you're now talking over $200.

Same with a canteen..it is VERy rare to get the canteen and cup to have matching numbers. Meaning they've been together since they came from the factory. Often times yiu' lose the cup and find another somewhere else. So a good canteen goes for over $100.

My two most vaulable items are the big flag (over $600) and the Iron Cross (over $250).

talemyn
09-26-05, 09:39 PM
Although I admit that was a little startled to see a big Nazi flag in my face when I opened the thread ;) , a very nice collection. :up:

covenant
09-26-05, 10:38 PM
Lat the "honor" rings are copied so often it's almost impossible to tell if they're real, the repos are THAT good. :(


I started collecting about 10 years ago but quit soon after for that exact reason. I have a couple of armbands, a banner, some cap eagles and a west wall medal. The arm bands are suspect because they lack tags or any other proof marks. I was going to sell them on ebay but they frown on those types of items.

MrX
09-26-05, 10:42 PM
My grandfather has a big flag he brought back from Germany when he was over there as well

namrfumot
09-26-05, 10:45 PM
I started collecting about 10 years ago but quit soon after for that exact reason. I have a couple of armbands, a banner, some cap eagles and a west wall medal. The arm bands are suspect because they lack tags or any other proof marks. I was going to sell them on ebay but they frown on those types of items.

Do the armbands have any stamp on the inside? One neat trick to to put them uner a black light. The white should not glow, as fabric pre-1945 won't glow.

What kind of banner?

dork
09-26-05, 11:41 PM
Perhaps the oddest thread that I would consider Not Work Safe.

The Edit King
09-26-05, 11:46 PM
WOW, namy! :eek:

That's some VERY cool stuff!

I'm just getting into the old COMBAT! DVD's, and from Medal of Honor to Wolfenstein, that stuff looks awfully familiar! :up:

B.A.
09-26-05, 11:49 PM
My dad has a couple of Nazi coins - that's about it.

The next time my best friend goes to Kyrgyzstan, he is going to pick me up a bunch of old Soviet memoribilia - he has a couple of shelves full at home and he said he would hook me up the next he is deployed there (which should be after his current deployment to Qatar).

DVD Polizei
09-27-05, 12:02 AM
why collect nazi shit? i dont get it?

Ich denke nicht, daß Sie verstehen.

Cameron
09-27-05, 12:07 AM
head of a nazi

http://home.comcast.net/~phlip/koth/pics/icons/Cotton_copy.jpg

La Bella Rose
09-27-05, 12:25 AM
Really amazing pieces you have there...

Buford T Pusser
09-27-05, 12:37 AM
This is all I have:


http://cover6.cduniverse.com/CDUCoverArt/video/6828882.jpg



But you have an interesting collection.

Giantrobo
09-27-05, 12:42 AM
That's some cool stuff. I've always wanted to collect some Nazi items.

Rockmjd23
09-27-05, 01:00 AM
My German teacher in High School had a big collection of WWII stuff from Germany and a lot of Soviet stuff too. We called her Frau Blucher.

talemyn
09-27-05, 01:02 AM
Good reading:

http://www.theserpentswall.com/index.htmlAwesome site! :up: x 2

Really well written to . . . not "just the fact", but some excellent feeling and personal perspective added in. I particularly liked this little bit on the page regardin the Iron Cross:

The Iron Cross was Hitler’s first medal. He got it in 1914 while a corporal in the German army. Later in life he wore his Iron Cross at all times and was extremely proud of it. Maybe because it was the only award he truly earned, at a time when he was in his right place. All the following history of the Third Reich is evidence of what can happen if a man born to be a corporal becomes the Fuhrer.

Y2K Falcon
09-27-05, 10:52 AM
why collect nazi shit? i dont get it?
Dennoch sammeln Sie Laker Sachen... -ohbfrank-

Save Ferris
09-27-05, 11:23 AM
I remember watching some show on the history channel about them recovering old sunken ships and how they had to be very careful because sometimes when they think a long metal barnacle encrusted object is an old cannon, in reality its an unexploded torpedo. Those can explode even years later.

dork
09-27-05, 11:40 AM
a long metal barnacle encrusted object is an old cannon, in reality its an unexploded torpedo.
hot

covenant
09-27-05, 01:04 PM
Do the armbands have any stamp on the inside? One neat trick to to put them uner a black light. The white should not glow, as fabric pre-1945 won't glow.

What kind of banner?

no stamps on the bands...i'll have to try the black light trick.

The banner is about 7'x3' +/-. It has a couple of rips and stains. I'm certain it's authentic as it smells old.

It looks like this one:

http://www.motka.com/02.07.05a/DSC02263.JPG

VinVega
09-27-05, 01:14 PM
Very awesome pics. Your grandfather was quite the collector while he was over in Europe.

Fok
09-27-05, 01:26 PM
This is all I have:


http://cover6.cduniverse.com/CDUCoverArt/video/6828882.jpg



But you have an interesting collection.

:lol:

yeah me too :(

ShagMan
09-27-05, 02:25 PM
awesome collection!

Reminds me of American Beauty, where the h0m0-phobe only had the "one" nazi plate.

MJKTool
09-27-05, 02:30 PM
Dennoch sammeln Sie Laker Sachen... -ohbfrank-

Seines besseres als Sammelngodemichés mögen Sie machen..

weargle
09-27-05, 03:12 PM
I was at a gun show last year and saw a bunch of Nazi paraphenalia and thought that it was kind of cool, until I saw a canister label for Zyklon-B. Then I almost violently threw up. I wasn't the same for the rest of the day, and thought about choke slamming the guy through the Spanish announcers table.

Adiras
09-27-05, 03:13 PM
Do you ever have to explain your collection to people who see it for the first time? Like do people ever mistake you for a White Supremacist if they don't know you?

DodgingCars
09-27-05, 03:53 PM
Do you ever have to explain your collection to people who see it for the first time? Like do people ever mistake you for a White Supremacist if they don't know you?

I'd actually think my friends were pretty ignorant if they didn't realize it was a historical collection... (but then, I don't own anything like that).

I actually knew someone who had a large WWII collection and primarly collected German (not all Nazi) paraphenilia. He had some helmets, etc.

uberjoe
09-27-05, 03:59 PM
Well, I didn't read through past the first post, so I don't know if someone already said this:

I opened this thread and had a huge swastika fill my entire screen, so everyone in my office could see. Now, I know it's not a naked woman, but I'd call that not work safe.

namrfumot
09-27-05, 04:10 PM
I don't display much of it, mainly just the field gear in a room where I keep all my books. None of my friends give it any thought because they know I'm a history nut. Heck even my GF bought me a Hitler cigarette book for Xmas.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7663/dsc005410bw.jpg
A Luftwaffe soup strainer

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5603/dsc005421lw.jpg
A Wermacht "spork" and a complete field utensil set. You can see the eagle on the knife in the pic

http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/102/dsc005431om.jpg
Another utensil set

namrfumot
09-27-05, 04:17 PM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7479/dsc005446oi.jpg
Iron Cross 2nd class - and envelope

DaveNinja
09-27-05, 04:23 PM
My grandfathers parents lived in germany. He fought in WW2 (he grew up in the US) in the pacific. I have soom good items that he brought back (japanese rifle and my grandfathers army stuff). When my parents were cleaning out his old house they came across a plate that had a paper picture glued onto it. After soaking the plate the picture and glue came off and it was an SS plate. Its off white with an embossed eagle holding the swastika. Its a decroative plate, like for wall hanging and not eating off of, i'd think, since its not smooth and would be a bitch to clean.
Are plates like that common or worth anything? I'm not sure what i would do with it since its fragile. I'd probably rather sell it to a collector than to risk packing it away only to get broken/lost.

namrfumot
09-27-05, 04:34 PM
dave if you can get a pic of the bottom i'd be able to give you a better idea. i have a book on utensils/plates, etc

i'll be honest in that i've never heard of a decorative plate before..

sebastianv50
09-27-05, 06:25 PM
My great great uncle built and designed the landing crafts, pt boats, and many other boats used during WWII. Andrew Jackson Higgins, for you history nuts out there. Yep. So my family has some cool and possibly one of a kind stuff from that factory and some cool pictures.

mikehunt
09-27-05, 07:54 PM
I was at a gun show last year and saw a bunch of Nazi paraphenalia and thought that it was kind of cool, until I saw a canister label for Zyklon-B. Then I almost violently threw up. I wasn't the same for the rest of the day, and thought about choke slamming the guy through the Spanish announcers table.

I've seen shit like that at guns shows
the gun shows around here really need to enforce the guns only rule
but 99.9% of the German war stuff I've seen at gun shows is stuff similar to the pics in this thread, and the people selling it often have US and other countries' war stuff too so it's clear it's there as history and not due to hate

eXcentris
09-27-05, 08:24 PM
http://www.screenhead.com/funny/hitlerbaby.JPG

namrufmot, nice collection. :)

Coral
09-27-05, 08:49 PM
Very nice stuff.

I always thought the Nazi's had a great sense of style in their uniforms, logos, medallions, etc.

namrfumot
09-27-05, 09:13 PM
Very nice stuff.

I always thought the Nazi's had a great sense of style in their uniforms, logos, medallions, etc.

As wierd as that sounds it's totally true. Almost everything they made was better and more complex (almost to a fault), than other countries goods.

Their propaganda was light years ahead of any other countries. Some of their propaganda posters are very moving.

littlefuzzy
09-28-05, 09:29 AM
cool pics
also have an M1 Garand from 1943 with the long version bayonet none of those lame short ones from the Korean War...
I need to track down a long bayonet for my Garand...

mikehunt
09-28-05, 06:55 PM
they're getting pricey
not uncommon for them to be $100 with sheath

The Bus
09-28-05, 07:54 PM
The only nazis nowawadays are those national socialists. I tell you

eedoon
09-29-05, 05:51 AM
Pretty cool! I wanted to collect those WWII stuff myself too, especially small arms (Nambu pistols, Luger, rifles etc). But well. I don't have enough money, time and room to do that.

Cygnet74
09-29-05, 05:57 AM
Gott Mituns?

DaveNinja
10-03-05, 12:49 PM
I'll try to have my dad take a picture of the plate and email it to me.

i had forgotten about this thread.

DaveNinja
10-03-05, 01:31 PM
Here are the pictures (around 200K each):
front of plate (http://www.omsoft.com/home/dninja/nplatef.jpg)

back (http://www.omsoft.com/home/dninja/nplater.jpg)

let me know what you think.

namrfumot
10-03-05, 04:35 PM
Well Dave..here's what I can gather so far..

Heinrich & Co. was a huge porcelain company located in Bavaria. They most certainly did make plates/sauchers/gravy boats for the Luftwaffe during WWII.

However, every example my book has, every example I've seen on the net has a swastika and date stamped on the back...

So in other words..I have no clue ;) I'll ask around a little bit to see if I can stir up anything else.

DaveNinja
10-04-05, 11:44 AM
Thanks. let me know what you find out. maybe if you're interested in it, i can sell it to you for a good price.

namrfumot
11-07-05, 07:16 PM
My newest edition..a "pony fur" backpack..actually horsehair..
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/7683/untitled128zv.jpg

Jazzbutcher
11-08-05, 09:54 AM
Cool collection. One of my relatives "liberated" a metal cigarette case off a dead Japanese soldier when he was fighting in the Pacific. It had a bullet hole right through the middle.

Cusm
11-08-05, 12:16 PM
Who used the horse hair backpack?

namrfumot
11-08-05, 02:56 PM
It was a standard issue packpack to many soldiers. Some guys got regular rucksacks, some got ponypacks. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason.

The fur is supposed to be an early attempt at easy waterproofing so maybe they tried to issue them to guys would be in rainy climates>

namrfumot
11-16-05, 06:46 PM
Another addition...Y-Straps..use to hang all your equipment off. VERY rare these days for some strange reason...I was lucky enough to get a near mint pair. The metal still has most of its paint left. Marked FRANZ BREHME, WALSRODL 1942.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5760/dsc032759au.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/940/10025634fc.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/872/10025657hq.jpg

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6926/mnzs599636gf.jpg
You can see a soldier wearing them here.

Tommy Ceez
11-16-05, 08:31 PM
Makes me wonder what kind of stuff our boys are bringing home from Iraq.

First day of invasion...NBC imbedded reporter is with a Hummer convoy crossing the border, the whole convoy stops by an abandoned desert outpost, reporter wonders whats going on...officer in hummer in front of the reporter runs out of his vehicle, jumps up an snaggs an Iraqi flag off the pole, runs back into hummer, and convoy continues...hysterical.


BTW OP, adjust the white balance for indoor incandessant before you snap any more pics

Do you have any Italian Army stuff...my grandfather fought for Mousilini (but spent most of his time in a North African British POW camp.)

Tommy Ceez
11-16-05, 08:33 PM
Nam, you know, Curt Schilling is also a collector.

mikehunt
11-17-05, 09:45 PM
M1 Garand and Russian Mosin Nagant M44
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/mikehunt234/m44-and-m1-3.jpg

M1 Carbine
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/mikehunt234/m1carbine2.jpg

maybe this weekend I'll get pics of the Garand bayonet and my Mauser

namrfumot
11-17-05, 10:11 PM
The M1 is a beauty! If you ever got a K98 my head would explode.

I've often thought about getting into firemarms, but getting all the permits would be sucha a hassle.

mikehunt
11-17-05, 10:22 PM
The M1 is a beauty! If you ever got a K98 my head would explode.

I've often thought about getting into firemarms, but getting all the permits would be sucha a hassle.

Thanks.

Rifle's aren't bad, just the form and instant check at the gun store
the mauser I have is a copy of a K98, but it's the Yugoslavia version so it's not as historic

GFM
11-17-05, 10:38 PM
The M-44 is a fun little one. I used to get a kick out of my friends reactions the first time I pulled the trigger and the side blast hit them. Short barrel, full powered cartridge makes for an interesting show.

mikehunt
11-17-05, 11:06 PM
kicks like a mule and has a huge fireball too
I had to get one of those slip on rubber butt pads for it

DaveNinja
11-18-05, 01:22 PM
Ever find out any more info about my plate?