They were never the same after Bon Scott died. You could never replicate a Bon Scott - he was one of a kind.
dadaluholla
09-28-05, 08:59 AM
IS there an AC/DC greatest hits disc around yet? That I would be interested in.
Turd Ferguson
09-28-05, 09:41 AM
I love AC/DC, but I'm afraid they're running out of junior high-level sex puns for songs in much the same way that Taco Bell is running out of combinations of their six basic ingredients.
countedcrow
09-28-05, 09:43 AM
I have heard that they have been looking at venues for a tour late this year/early next year. So I would assume an album would be soon.
Also, heard that they may have enough material for a double album. Although, it seems like every artist says that anymore.
I have seen a lot of this information online at www.93x.com (radio station in Minneapolis)
GuessWho
09-28-05, 04:40 PM
IS there an AC/DC greatest hits disc around yet? That I would be interested in.
That's exactly what I'm waiting for too! A 2-disc "The Essential AC/DC"
B5Erik
09-29-05, 10:37 PM
They were never the same after Bon Scott died. You could never replicate a Bon Scott - he was one of a kind.
Maybe you can't replicate a Bon Scott - but they didn't need to. Brian Johnson was absolutely perfect for them, and Back In Black is by far their best album. Hell, it's one of the best albums ever released by anyone, and Brian Johnson had a lot to do with that.
I like their Bon Scott era albums, but I prefer the Brian Johnson era albums.
Hud
09-29-05, 11:12 PM
Maybe you can't replicate a Bon Scott - but they didn't need to. Brian Johnson was absolutely perfect for them, and Back In Black is by far their best album.
I agree, and I think the fact that the band could carve out a new sound, maintain (if not add to) their fan base, and still be selling out arenas twenty five years after changing lead singers speaks volumes for the band. I prefer the Bon Scott material, but it's all good to me. It's sort of like Van Halen, in that, whether you prefer Diamond Dave or Van Hagar, you have to admit that the band still rocked with each.
Buford T Pusser
09-30-05, 12:43 AM
They were never the same after Bon Scott died. You could never replicate a Bon Scott - he was one of a kind.
I heard they're trying to get Brian Johnson to agree to a man on man duet with Rob Halford of Judas Priest. Halford has already agreed. It's what the industry wants and the public demands.
nodeerforamonth
09-30-05, 02:36 PM
It's sort of like Van Halen, in that, whether you prefer Diamond Dave or Van Hagar, you have to admit that the band still rocked with each.
It's NOTHING of the sort. While AC/DC rocked with or without Bon Scott, Van Halen NEVER rocked with Hagar. NEVER! Way too many ballads and keyboards. That is not rock!
Mordred
09-30-05, 07:35 PM
Maybe you can't replicate a Bon Scott - but they didn't need to. Brian Johnson was absolutely perfect for them, and Back In Black is by far their best album. Hell, it's one of the best albums ever released by anyone, and Brian Johnson had a lot to do with that.
I like their Bon Scott era albums, but I prefer the Brian Johnson era albums.It's best to ignore dear old art, otherwise you'll end up engaged on straight man-on-man action and none of us wants to see that.
It's hard to take seriously anyone who doesn't appreciate Brian Johnson AC/DC. Yeah Bon was great and all but Back In Black is the blueprint by which all other hard rock albums must be judged. There's just no way around it.
art
09-30-05, 09:19 PM
Bon Scott sang some great songs and had a look that was challenging in its conflicting notions of masculinity/vulnerability. Brian Johnson might have had a good voice initially but his look was pretty blunt and conservative. I mean, a baseball cap that looked as if it was superglued on is hardly going to make people think. His singing about "knocking me out with those American thighs" etc is pretty conservative also. Bon, in contrast, sang about jailbreaks and 15 years in hell, as well as getting ripped off on the way to the top.
Mordred
10-04-05, 01:31 PM
Bon Scott sang some great songs and had a look that was challenging in its conflicting notions of masculinity/vulnerability. Brian Johnson might have had a good voice initially but his look was pretty blunt and conservative. I mean, a baseball cap that looked as if it was superglued on is hardly going to make people think. His singing about "knocking me out with those American thighs" etc is pretty conservative also. Bon, in contrast, sang about jailbreaks and 15 years in hell, as well as getting ripped off on the way to the top.rotfl Well you convinced me that Bon is gay! rotfl
Toka
10-04-05, 02:48 PM
Powerage = best AC/DC album (scientific fact).
nodeerforamonth
10-04-05, 03:02 PM
Powerage = best AC/DC album (scientific fact).
Duh!
Tyler_Durden
10-05-05, 03:50 AM
Bon Scott sang some great songs and had a look that was challenging in its conflicting notions of masculinity/vulnerability. Brian Johnson might have had a good voice initially but his look was pretty blunt and conservative. I mean, a baseball cap that looked as if it was superglued on is hardly going to make people think. His singing about "knocking me out with those American thighs" etc is pretty conservative also. Bon, in contrast, sang about jailbreaks and 15 years in hell, as well as getting ripped off on the way to the top.I've always thought that the lessening in quality of AC/DC's material in the '80s was mostly due to the change in their songs' subject matter. As much as it puts the band in a specific category, AC/DC is at its best when singing about good times, fast women, wild nights out etc. But with material like "Heatseeker" and - dare I say it - "Let Me Put My Love into You" the band went on a distinctly '80s power trip that didn't seem true to their spirit. And while nothing will ever replace Bon Scott's dirty blues (a la "Shot Down in Flames") for me, I have always accepted Johnson as a worthy replacement. His bombastic, anthemic singing may not be as intimate or seductive as Scott's, but for me, stuff like "Moneytalks" fits the AC/DC formula to a T and Johnson does it beautifully.
PS. Just ordered "Family Jewels" yesterday. :)
Geofferson
10-05-05, 11:01 AM
Powerage = best AC/DC album (scientific fact).
Agreed. :up:
Geofferson
10-05-05, 11:05 AM
rotfl Well you convinced me that Bon is gay! rotfl
Hey...he did dress in drag in the video for Baby Please Don't Go! Nah...Bon was a stud.
Seriously though, I much prefer the Bon Scott-era stuff. The music style was more bluesy (and ballsy). True that they hit worldwide success with BIB, but I have always been curious as to how much of that material was completed before Bon died. I know he had significant involvement because Brian Johnson wrote many of the lyrics for their mid-80s albums and look how they turned out. ;)
Mordred
10-05-05, 11:56 AM
Hey...he did dress in drag in the video for Baby Please Don't Go! Nah...Bon was a stud.
Seriously though, I much prefer the Bon Scott-era stuff. The music style was more bluesy (and ballsy). True that they hit worldwide success with BIB, but I have always been curious as to how much of that material was completed before Bon died. I know he had significant involvement because Brian Johnson wrote many of the lyrics for their mid-80s albums and look how they turned out. ;)There's an article in the latest Guitar World with the Youngs and Johnson about the 25th anniversary of Back in Black. I can find exact quotes if you like but they basically flat out state that Bon had pretty much no involvement in that record. Some of the material was written, but I don't think Bon had done any of the lyrics and there sure as hell was never any demos recorded with Bon on them. I think the majority of the album was written after he died and Johnson had a decent amount of input. He even stated that "Rock and Roll (Ain't Noise Pollution)" was written in Jamaica right as they were wrapping up the album. He and Angus felt the album needed one last song so they hashed it out in an afternoon and recorded it the next day.
They also mentioned that Bon Scott was a fan of Brian Johnsons and had played an album from Johnson's previous band to the guys so they could hear his voice. They said that was one of the main reasons they auditioned him.
Geofferson
10-05-05, 01:06 PM
There's an article in the latest Guitar World with the Youngs and Johnson about the 25th anniversary of Back in Black. I can find exact quotes if you like but they basically flat out state that Bon had pretty much no involvement in that record. Some of the material was written, but I don't think Bon had done any of the lyrics and there sure as hell was never any demos recorded with Bon on them. I think the majority of the album was written after he died and Johnson had a decent amount of input. He even stated that "Rock and Roll (Ain't Noise Pollution)" was written in Jamaica right as they were wrapping up the album. He and Angus felt the album needed one last song so they hashed it out in an afternoon and recorded it the next day.
They also mentioned that Bon Scott was a fan of Brian Johnsons and had played an album from Johnson's previous band to the guys so they could hear his voice. They said that was one of the main reasons they auditioned him.
Interesting - I'll have to pick that up. I have always heard rumors about Bon's apparent involvement with this album and had heard of bootleg cuts of some tunes (though never heard them). I did know of Bon being a fan of Brian Johnson though - in an article I read a while back, he referenced Brian Johnson and Geordie -- I eventually tracked down some of these tunes and Bon was right - they are pretty damn good.
Buford T Pusser
10-05-05, 01:39 PM
I did not know about Johnson's stuff before AC/DC.
Buford T Pusser
10-05-05, 01:40 PM
art might contend that if Bon was gay he might still be alive if he chose to swallow manspunk instead of vomit.
Bad taste? Maybe so. But can we blame art for my transgression?
Geofferson
10-05-05, 06:08 PM
I did not know about Johnson's stuff before AC/DC.
If interested, seek out the cd 'Strange Man' - it's a compilation of his hits from the band Geordie. An interesting album to say the least. :)
nodeerforamonth
10-05-05, 06:08 PM
What's it like? Is it arty? Rock? Mellow?
Buford T Pusser
10-05-05, 11:24 PM
If interested, seek out the cd 'Strange Man' - it's a compilation of his hits from the band Geordie. An interesting album to say the least. :)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/102-2932141-0440127
Honestly, I'm not even sure it's available on CD. I have it on vinyl:
http://www.rarerecords.com.au/photos/6664-1.jpg
Buford T Pusser
10-06-05, 09:42 AM
Maybe a comparison of track listings would yield a candidate.
Mordred
10-06-05, 11:29 AM
Interesting - I'll have to pick that up. I have always heard rumors about Bon's apparent involvement with this album and had heard of bootleg cuts of some tunes (though never heard them). I did know of Bon being a fan of Brian Johnson though - in an article I read a while back, he referenced Brian Johnson and Geordie -- I eventually tracked down some of these tunes and Bon was right - they are pretty damn good.I haven't heard any of his earlier stuff either. I need to try and track some down.
BTW, I went back and re-read the Guitar World article and man either my reading comprehension is bad or my memory is faulty. Almost everything I said earlier was wrong.
Angus and Malcolm had written a lot of the album on the Highway to Hell tour. In Febuary 1980 they rented a rehersal studio to finish writing the tracks. Around the middle of February Bon showed up for a day to hear what the brothers were working on. Apparently Bon was something of an accomplished drummer so he sat in on the kit and played drums while the brothers jammed. He basically came up with the drum parts for "Have a Drink On Me" which they fleshed out that day and then figured out a drum intro for what would become "Let Me Put My Love Into You." He left the studio promising to return a week later with some ideas for lyrics. He died Feb. 20th having never gotten back with the brothers. Malcolm addressed the rumors that many of the lyrics came from a notebook Bon had and said they were patently untrue. They boxed up all of Bon's things and sent them back to his parents as they didn't feel it was right to keep them. There were certainly no demos with Bon as there weren't any lyrics yet.
By the time Brian Johnson joined almost everything was written and he didn't have much input at all on the first album. The band went to Nassau in the Bahamas to do the recording and it was there that Angus and Malcolm not Angus and Brian wrote "Rock & Roll (Ain't Noise Pollution)" which was about a club in the UK which was in a neighborhood with strict noise control regulations. Johnson finished the entire album without ever hearing a finished song all the way through due to the way Mutt Lange recorded him in bits and pieces.