3 cd's so far with pretty much all of the same material (one studio, one acoustic, one live). They have come to Tampa 3 or 4 times on this cd alone. I know it's smart to strike while they are hot, considering they will probably be a one-hit wonder, but when is enough enough?
uberjoe
09-23-05, 02:42 PM
When people stop paying.
The Infidel
09-23-05, 03:02 PM
I know it's smart to strike while they are hot, considering they will probably be a one-hit wonder, but when is enough enough?
They've actually had three hits off the album, but I think so much attention has been paid to one album that, historically speaking, their next album will suffer by comparison.
Quake1028
09-23-05, 04:17 PM
They've actually had three hits off the album, but I think so much attention has been paid to one album that, historically speaking, their next album will suffer by comparison.
Yeah, I completely agree. And it's not like this album is really a "mega-hit", at least I don't consider it one. Anyone have any idea how many copies it has sold?
EDIT - And I meant one-hit wonder in the sense of the album, not the actual songs.
Josh H
09-23-05, 04:28 PM
The Killers could get close with Hot Fuss, then the limted edition version of it with three songs.
auto
09-23-05, 04:58 PM
This is happening more and more with "hot new bands" these days. Say a band (Killers, Maroon 5, Interpol, etc.) sells 100,000 albums and generates good buzz. Now, chances are, they were meant to sell 100,000 albums. Pretty good for a new band, right? Indie kids proclaim them the best new band ever. Now, why wait for the dreaded "sophmore jinx" album? Repackage the CD with a new track and release it again. The band now has "buzz" so Best Buy/Circuit City throws this "new" release in their ad. People who didn't pick it up the first time around, and have heard the "buzz", see the ad and go pick it up for $9.99. The aformentioned indie kids buy it again because they have to own that b-side. All of sudden, "hot new band" sells another 50,000 copies.
Good news for the band but who loses? The poor kid who bought the album the first time it was released for $17.99 from the local shop that carried it when Best Buy wouldn't. He pays more and doesn't get the "special edition".
auto
09-23-05, 05:01 PM
Agghhhhh....now the "o" in my username is gone. Before you know it, I'm going to disappear!!! :(
The Bus
09-24-05, 08:22 AM
This is happening more and more with "hot new bands" these days. Say a band (Killers, Maroon 5, Interpol, etc.) sells 100,000 albums and generates good buzz. Now, chances are, they were meant to sell 100,000 albums. Pretty good for a new band, right? Indie kids proclaim them the best new band ever. Now, why wait for the dreaded "sophmore jinx" album? Repackage the CD with a new track and release it again. The band now has "buzz" so Best Buy/Circuit City throws this "new" release in their ad. People who didn't pick it up the first time around, and have heard the "buzz", see the ad and go pick it up for $9.99. The aformentioned indie kids buy it again because they have to own that b-side. All of sudden, "hot new band" sells another 50,000 copies.
Good news for the band but who loses? The poor kid who bought the album the first time it was released for $17.99 from the local shop that carried it when Best Buy wouldn't. He pays more and doesn't get the "special edition".
Interpol has released two very very excellent albums.
Quake1028
09-24-05, 02:17 PM
Interpol has released two very very excellent albums.
Agreed.
auto
09-24-05, 02:18 PM
Interpol has released two very very excellent albums.
I know. Same concept though aside from the sophmore jinx part.
Did we really need an Antics: SE?
Hollowgen
09-24-05, 03:18 PM
dude, doesn't maroon 5 care about the environment and rock for honda?
Rogue588
09-24-05, 06:05 PM
3 cd's so far with pretty much all of the same material (one studio, one acoustic, one live). They have come to Tampa 3 or 4 times on this cd alone. I know it's smart to strike while they are hot, considering they will probably be a one-hit wonder, but when is enough enough?:lol: Too funny. I ranted about this on my radio show this past Wednesday. It's not like Songs About Jane isn't a good album...it is. But it's time for some NEW stuff..
Quake1028
09-24-05, 06:31 PM
:lol: Too funny. I ranted about this on my radio show this past Wednesday. It's not like Songs About Jane isn't a good album...it is. But it's time for some NEW stuff..
Yeah, after I started this topic I saw your line in the release thread about a greatest hits cd. Good stuff :lol:.
DRG
09-24-05, 07:11 PM
Well, they still need to release:
Maroon 5: The Remix Album
Songs About Jane: The Demo Sessions
Songs About Jane: Instrumentals
Quake1028
09-25-05, 01:51 AM
Well, they still need to release:
Maroon 5: The Remix Album
Songs About Jane: The Demo Sessions
Songs About Jane: Instrumentals
I think those are coming out next week :p.
xfilekr
09-25-05, 06:51 PM
Lol, I didn't even know about the Live cd/dvd until a week before it came out.I REALLY like the dvd from what I've watched, I had seen them opening for Matchbox Twenty right before they became really big. Yeah, they are really milking the success....but they've been good releases. THey have a lot to live up to w/ the next cd, hopefully they dont dissapoint.
sherm42
09-25-05, 08:51 PM
The Killers could get close with Hot Fuss, then the limted edition version of it with three songs.
I don't blame the band for LE release. It is more likely to be the record company.
As for The Killers, they at least write new songs. They have performed at least 5 new songs since Hot Fuss. Hopefully, a new album is on the horizon.
Rocketdog2000
10-01-05, 10:38 PM
:lol: Too funny. I ranted about this on my radio show this past Wednesday. It's not like Songs About Jane isn't a good album...it is. But it's time for some NEW stuff..
I agree, especially since that album is 3 (and very close to going on 4) years old now.
Many don't know this, but the album was actually re-released with slightly different artwork (back cover) a year after it came out. It was originally on Octone records (a subdivison on BMG) in 2002, and then got picked up by J Records (also, a subdivsion of BMG) - and along with the artwork, they also change the issue date to reflect it, to 2003.
Michael Corvin
10-01-05, 11:02 PM
Didn't Color Me Badd release 95% of the songs on their debut? They milked that for 3 years. What about Bell Biv Devoe? They were still performing Poison at awards shows 3 years after its release. Both of which fell into obscurity upon the release of their sophomore albums.
gatoinfeliz
10-01-05, 11:22 PM
Shakira did this with her first major spanish album called Pies Descalzos in late 1995. It was 12 songs and she released 6 or 7 songs from it and they never stopped playing them until her second album came out in late 1998. She released 8 or 9 songs out of the 12 in this album as well.
Brain Stew
10-01-05, 11:48 PM
The Sex Pistols ;)
Libby
11-22-05, 06:10 AM
apparenly Adam Livine (the lead singer) took all his money that me made from the first album (or some of it) and used it to pay the model he was making out with in their first video.
ChrisKnudsen
11-22-05, 08:52 AM
I know. Same concept though aside from the sophmore jinx part.
Did we really need an Antics: SE?
No, but Matador needs it with such non-hit albums as the National, Dead Meadow, the Double, Early Man, Laura Cantrell, etc, doesn't sell 5,000 copies, they need to milk some of their hot properties. Granted, they still have Malkimus, New Pornographers, Belle and Sebastian, but those babies don't go gold unlike some bands that make a career sounding like Joy Division with Television guitar riffs.
ChrisKnudsen
11-22-05, 08:55 AM
I think I remember that "Cracked Rearview Mirror" back in the day sort of had the same treatment with record store exclusives or more so major chain exclusives but then again it also Hootie had better songs.
maxfisher
02-09-06, 10:10 AM
Thought I'd bump this after seeing Maroon 5 won the Grammy for 'Pop Performance by a Duo or Group With Vocal'. Granted, the Grammy's are a joke, but come on. Aren't they supposed to be for material released in the previous year? Songs About Jane was released June 25, 2002 for Christ's sake.
In looking at this thread, I'm surprised more people aren't critical of Maroon 5. It's one thing to release an album and then re-release a special edition. It's quite another to release an album, milk it for all it's worth, then release a live acoustic album containing 5 songs from the album & 2 covers, then release another live album, this one containing all 12 songs off the first album, 1 cover and 1 new song. I mean, they've released 3 albums off of 13 songs, it's pretty pathetic. I wouldn't be surprised to see them release a 5 song 'Greatest Hits' album before coming up with new material.
The Black
02-09-06, 10:39 AM
The Sex Pistols ;)
I was about to reply with the same answer :)
GuessWho
02-09-06, 10:46 AM
I think I remember that "Cracked Rearview Mirror" back in the day sort of had the same treatment with record store exclusives or more so major chain exclusives but then again it also Hootie had better songs.
But there was only ONE Cracked Rear View
Releasing a lot of singles is not what this thread is about (I think)...it's about releasing the album 3 times (normal, acoustic, live) before an actual 2nd album.
TripWire
02-09-06, 11:01 AM
The National are on Beggars Banquet and have been selling pretty damn good....and Matador has Mogwai, Spoon, Cat Power, and Pretty Girls Make Graves also..so I think they are doing alright.
I think since Maroon 5's album came out and wasn't picked up until way later, it doesn't have the death time of most normal releases.
Bjork releases and milks a lot off her old material, at least her stuff is good of course, but at the same time a big reason is because they know fans will buy it.
No, but Matador needs it with such non-hit albums as the National, Dead Meadow, the Double, Early Man, Laura Cantrell, etc, doesn't sell 5,000 copies, they need to milk some of their hot properties. Granted, they still have Malkimus, New Pornographers, Belle and Sebastian, but those babies don't go gold unlike some bands that make a career sounding like Joy Division with Television guitar riffs.
Rogue588
02-09-06, 11:46 AM
The Grammy guys got around that "time" rule by nominating a song from M5's live album.
I was telling the DJ that came in after me [a M5 fan] that all this was going to do was inspire them to release yet ANOTHER version of SAJ.
dhmac
02-10-06, 10:40 AM
On the thread subject of milking an album, Linkin Park's 2nd album was just a remixed version of their 1st album.
(...Not that I would ever buy any of their albums, much less the same one twice)
neocheddar02
02-13-06, 03:40 AM
I liked the 1st Linkin Park album and thought the 2nd one was actually pretty unique, it had 2 songs not on the 1st, along with version of the songs that didn't sound anything like their originals.
As for maroon 5, and I don't mean to bash, but I thought that, save for the 3 or 4 singles, the rest of the album was pretty weak. I felt like it was made to sell the few hits and the rest was "filler." But I do like their singles, I'll give them that.
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