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kvrdave
09-13-05, 10:21 AM
:rolleyes:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1775068,00.html


Ditch Holocaust day, advisers urge Blair
Abul Taher

ADVISERS appointed by Tony Blair after the London bombings are proposing to scrap the Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day because it is regarded as offensive to Muslims. They want to replace it with a Genocide Day that would recognise the mass murder of Muslims in Palestine, Chechnya and Bosnia as well as people of other faiths.

The draft proposals have been prepared by committees appointed by Blair to tackle extremism. He has promised to respond to the plans, but the threat to the Holocaust Day has provoked a fierce backlash from the Jewish community.

Holocaust Day was established by Blair in 2001 after a sustained campaign by Jewish leaders to create a lasting memorial to the 6m victims of Hitler. It is marked each year on January 27.

The Queen is patron of the charity that organises the event and the Home Office pays £500,000 a year to fund it. The committees argue that the special status of Holocaust Memorial Day fuels extremists’ sense of alienation because it “excludes” Muslims.

A member of one of the committees, made up of Muslims, said it gave the impression that “western lives have more value than non-western lives”. That perception needed to be changed. “One way of doing that is if the government were to sponsor a national Genocide Memorial Day.

“The very name Holocaust Memorial Day sounds too exclusive to many young Muslims. It sends out the wrong signals: that the lives of one people are to be remembered more than others. It’s a grievance that extremists are able to exploit.”

The recommendation, drawn up by four committees including those dealing with imams and mosques, and Islamaphobia and policing, has the backing of Sir Iqbal Sacranie, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain.

He said: “The message of the Holocaust was ‘never again’, and for that message to have practical effect on the world community it has to be inclusive. We can never have double standards in terms of human life. Muslims feel hurt and excluded that their lives are not equally valuable to those lives lost in the Holocaust time.”

Ibrahim Hewitt, chairman of the charity Interpal, said: “There are 500 Palestinian towns and villages that have been wiped out over the years. That’s pretty genocidal to me.”

The committees are also set to clash with Blair on his proposal to ban Hizb ut-Tahrir, the radical Islamic group. Government sources say they will argue that a ban is unjustified because the group, which is proscribed in much of the Middle East, neither advocates nor perpetrates violence in the UK.

A Home Office spokesman said it would consider the proposals for a separate Genocide Day for all faiths but emphasised that it regarded the Holocaust as a “defining tragedy in European history”.

Mike Whine, a director of the British Board of Deputies, said: “Of course we will oppose this move. The whole point is to remember the darkest day of modern history.”

Louise Ellman, Labour MP for Liverpool Riverside and a Holocaust Memorial trustee, said: “These Muslim groups should stop trying to evade the enormity of the Holocaust.”

The seven committees finalise their recommendations today at St George’s House, Windsor, and will submit them to Blair and Charles Clarke, the home secretary, on September 22.


Super Stupid.

Nazgul
09-13-05, 10:26 AM
Fuck them.

Rockmjd23
09-13-05, 10:26 AM
Genocide Day? :lol:

wendersfan
09-13-05, 10:27 AM
I'm fighting the urge to post something very offensive right now.

Very, VERY offensive.

bhk
09-13-05, 10:48 AM
I was going to post this yesterday but I am always accused of bashing Islam so I didn't.

Oh and :rolleyes: at the people who are offended.

Thor Simpson
09-13-05, 10:55 AM
Muslims proposing a "Genocide Day?" Oh, man... they could have thought that through a little better. ;)

So the lesson they are trying to show us is that Hitler killed many Jews and Jews killed many Muslims... right? To compare the two events is ludicrous. I do wonder how the Palestinian world views the Holocaust... given that it wasn't Muslims doing the killing.

Myster X
09-13-05, 10:57 AM
get your own stinking day

Bandoman
09-13-05, 11:02 AM
I guess that simply remembering/memorializing one group of people is offensive unless everyone is included.

Rockmjd23
09-13-05, 11:03 AM
Veterans Day is offensive to draft dodgers.

Tracer Bullet
09-13-05, 11:05 AM
Louise Ellman, Labour MP for Liverpool Riverside and a Holocaust Memorial trustee, said: “These Muslim groups should stop trying to evade the enormity of the Holocaust.”

Exactly. Do these Muslims not realize that we are not simply commemorating the deaths of millions?

Anyone who compares the Holocaust to, well, anything else is not worthy of respect or serious debate.

resinrats
09-13-05, 11:17 AM
4th of July is offensive to all other days.

wendersfan
09-13-05, 11:20 AM
4th of July is offensive to all other days.I always call up my Brit friends on that day, just to taunt them. :)

Tommy Ceez
09-13-05, 11:21 AM
Memorial day is offensive to veteans who lived.

Bandoman
09-13-05, 11:23 AM
Groundhog Day is offensive to the monogamous, religious, conservative penguins.

Red Dog
09-13-05, 11:28 AM
Reminds me of Lee-Jackson-King day formerly in Virginia. :lol:

General Zod
09-13-05, 02:24 PM
The religion of tolerance..

Myster X
09-13-05, 02:31 PM
The religion of tolerance..

Is that a new term now instead of religion of peace?

Goldblum
09-13-05, 03:36 PM
Nazgul sums up my thoughts nicely. :)

Josh H
09-13-05, 03:36 PM
Fuck them.

Everything offends someone. Can't cater to the minority offended by stuff like that.

Joe Molotov
09-13-05, 04:40 PM
Talk Like a Pirate Day is offensive to Ninjas.

Jason
09-13-05, 05:39 PM
Muslims proposing a "Genocide Day?" Oh, man... they could have thought that through a little better. ;)


Well, it's not exactly a day of rememberence they're proposing anyhow...

Mark_vdH
09-13-05, 06:05 PM
I think a general memorial day could be very important. You know, even though you always hear about the Jews in WWII, those Germans were no sweethearts either. :grunt:

mikehunt
09-13-05, 07:43 PM
I'm fighting the urge to post something very offensive right now.

Very, VERY offensive.

me too, so I likely won't be back in this thread

Southside
09-14-05, 02:04 AM
Memorial day is offensive to veteans who lived.


That is why we have Veterans Day! lol


However, this does bring up an interesting debate...should Jewish people only be recognized during the murders of World War 2? Twelve million people were killed, if not more, and even though six million were Jewish, it is offensive, on some level, to completely ignore everyone else.

Speaking for myself...whenever I would hear of WW2, I was always reminded of the Jews, but other groups, muslims, gypsies, etc. were almost always ignored.

Maybe there should be a WW2 rememberance day in addition to Holocauset day?

FRwL
09-14-05, 02:44 AM
I think that's VJ day just passed in August.

OldDude
09-14-05, 07:20 AM
Well, for Europe, it's VE day, a few months earlier.

B.A.
09-14-05, 10:11 AM
I think a general memorial day could be very important.
I do, too.

But to call it "Genocide Day" might be the most ludicrous thing I have heard since Sunday whem I happened to be watching football w/ a roomful of Midwestern bigots.

Ky-Fi
09-14-05, 10:42 AM
I do wonder how the Palestinian world views the Holocaust... given that it wasn't Muslims doing the killing.

Well, there were certainly high-ranking and influential Palestinians who were quite familiar with and supportive of Hitler's plans and methods at the time---it's a long article and I don't want to post the whole thing here, but:


http://www.free-definition.com/Amin-al-Husayni.html

Mopower
09-14-05, 11:44 AM
I do wonder how the Palestinian world views the Holocaust... given that it wasn't Muslims doing the killing.

Some of them are probably jealous they didn't think of it first.