The DVDTalk DVD Draft Game

[Groucho]

I’ve seen variations of this game on other forums, and thought it would be fun to try it here.

The idea behind the game is that all the players “Draft” a 10 DVD collection, and then square off to see who has the best “virtual collection”. By draft, I mean selecting one DVD at a time to add to your collection in turn.

Detailed rules:

1. Everybody takes turns “drafting” DVDs round-robin style. Once a DVD has been drafted, nobody else can select it.

2. We’ll alternate the order of the draft every other round. So if you went last in round 1, in round 2 you’ll be the first to pick.

3. Once everybody has drafted 10 DVDs, we’ll have a bracket tournament. You’ll be randomly paired up, and the forum will vote on who has the better “collection” of DVDs from the draft.

4. Restrictions: a. No Porn
b. No box sets that contain previously-released DVDs
c. Only one movie box set per player
d. Only one television season set per player
e. R1 releases only
f. No "preorders"...a disc must be released before you can draft it.
g. No individual movies that are only available within box sets
h. Special exceptions: the following DVD's have also been excluded from the game, and may not be picked: Warner Legends, Warner Gangster Collection, Controversial Classics Collection, and Seinfeld 1-3 Gift Set. This list may be expanded at either time.
4. The bracket tourney will continue until we have a grand champion.

5. The field is limited to 32 players. Sign-ups are now closed, but there are openings for replacement players (see post below).

6. After the initial round, draft picks are "first come, first serve." Rounds begin every 24 hours at 9am Pacific (excluding weekends). The DVDTalk server clock will be the official timekeeper, so watch your timestamps! Any picks made outside the official time will be ignored. You'll need to repost them within the correct time frame.

7. If you miss two rounds in a row, I will replace you with an alternate. Alternates will enter the game in a "first come, first serve" fashion when this occurs, and will "inherit" the existing collection.

I will track draft pics in the second post of this thread. Good luck, and have fun!

Please let me know if there’s anything you don’t understand.

Draft Complete...bracket tourney begins 9/14!

[Groucho]

<center>The Draft is Over!</center>

The following players have failed to submit their choices for the all rounds, which means they have been dropped from the game:

Dmacsg1
Atreus
Bobbin
jigga6286
Anomaly
spartanstew
Scott Weinberg
Giles

I have also highlighted their names in Red below.

Final Draft Picks (Field limited to 32 players)

1. Mrs. Nesbit
1. Ultimate Toy Box (Box)
2. Fear and Loathing Las Vegas (CC)
3. Scarface CE
4. Simpsons Season 5 (TV)
5. Reservoir Dogs Anniversary Edition
6. XMen 2
7. Mallrats
8. Casino SE
9. Good Burger
10. Iron Giant SE

2. Sweet Baby James
1. The Killer (John Woo, Criterion)
2. The Shield Season 2 (TV)
3. Boogie Nights Platinum
4. Akira LE Tin
5. Beauty and the Beast Platinum (Disney)
6. The Third Man (Criterion)
7. Donnie Darko Director’s Cut
8. Sin City
9. Re-Animator Millennium Edition
10. The Adventures of Robin Hood SE(Errol Flynn)

3. Anomaly
1. Star Wars Trilogy (Box)
2. Star Wars 2: AOTC
3. Star Wars 1: TPM
4. Family vol 2 (TV)
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

4. RyoHazuki
1. Band of Brothers (TV)
2. Rules of the Game (Criterion)
3. Good Bad Ugly SE
4. Eraserhead
5. True Romance SE
6. Yakuza Papers Boxset
7. Toy Story 10th Aniv. SE
8. To Kill a Mockingbird SE
9. Schindler’s List Giftset
10. Do the Right Thing (criterion)

5. Rockmjd23
1. Dawn of the Dead (Ultimate Edition)
2. Terminator 2 EE
3. Videodrome CC
4. Boston Red Sox 2004 CE (TV)
5. Enter the Dragon: 2 Disc SE
6. Heat 2 disc SE
7. The Beyond LE TIN
8. X-men 1.5
9. Mondo Cane Collection (Box)
10. Day of the Dead: Divimax

6. raining helper
1. Mickey Mouse in Living Color Vol 1
2. Arrested Development Season One
3. Dark City
4. Magnolia
5. Night of the Living Dead (Millenium Edition)
6. Suspiria 3 disc SE
7. Ingmar Bergman Collection
8. Throne of Blood (CC)
9. The Day The Earth Stood Still
10. Naked Lunch (CC)

7. Damfino
1. The General (1927)
2. Modern Times
3. Vertigo
4. Kagemusha (Criterion)
5. Trainspotting SE
6. To Kill a Mockingbird (Legacy)
7. Once Upon A Time In America
8. I Claudius (TV)
9. City of God
10. Little Big Man

8. jfrost
1. FOTR EE
2. Se7en Platinum
3. Gladiator (EE)
4. Memento LE
5. Die Hard Ultimate Collection
6. Panic Room 3 disc SE
7. Taken (TV)
8. Brotherhood of the Wolf (3-disc CE)
9. Royal Tenenbaums CC
10. Spirited Away

9. Joe Molotov
1. Lawrence of Arabia: Superbit
2. Once Upon a Time in the West
3. Seven Samurai CC
4. The Rocky Horror Picture Show: 25th Ann
5. The Matrix
6. Twin Peaks: Season 1 (TV)
7. Gandhi
8. The Shining (Stanley Kubrick/Remastered)
9. Apocalypse Now (Theatrical Edition)
10. A Chistmas Story: 2-Disc SE

10. exharrison
1. Professional: Deluxe Edition
2. Pulp Fiction CE
3. Undeclared (TV)
4. Princess Bride SE
5. American Beauty: Awards Edition
6. Grave of the Fireflies: Special Edition
7. The Abyss 2 Disc Special Edition
8. Army of Darkness: Boomstick Edition
9. Bruce Lee: Master Collection (Box)
10. Yi Yi

11. obscurelabel
1. Salo (Criterion)
2. The Unbearable Lightness of Being (Criterion)
3. This is Spinal Tap (Criterion)
4. Sid and Nancy (Criterion)
5. Silence of the Lambs (Criterion)
6. The Red Desert (Image)
7. Two Lane Blacktop (Anchor Bay) (Colletor's Tin version)
8. Othello (1952/Welles/Image)
9. Three Colors Trilogy (Box)
10. The Dick Van Dyke Show season one (TV)

12. cleaver
1. Godfather Trilogy (Box)
2. Terminator 2 Ulimate Edition
3. Monster’s Inc
4. Rushmore Criterion
5. Saving Private Ryan WW2 Edition
6. Die Hard 5-Star Edition
7. The Sting (Legacy Series)
8. 12 Monkeys Special Edition
9. Animal House DSPE WS
10. Star Trek The Next Generation Season 4 (TV)

13. Cameron
1. Snow White Platinum
2. Edison: The Invention of the Movies
3. Jaws 30th Anniversary Edition
4. 8 1/2 Criterion
5. Metropolis Kino
6. The Adventures of Pete & Pete Season 1 (TV)
7. Bringing up Baby 2 Disc SE
8. The Who: The Kids are Alright 2 disc SE
9. Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volume 2
10. Director series: Spike Jonze

14. DJ Longfellow
1. Freaks and Geeks (TV)
2. Nightmare on Elm Street (Box Set)
3. Evil Dead (Book of the Dead)
4. ZOMBI 2 (2-disc set)
5. Finding Nemo
6. Starship Troopers SE
7. Predator (2-disc)
8. Wicker Man (Wooden Box edition)
9. Legend (2disc SE)
10. Labyrinth (CE)

15. videophile
1. Twilight Zone Season One Definitive Edition (TV)
2. The Lower Depths (Criterion)
3. City Lights (2 disc se)
4. The Incredibles 2 disc se
5. Tokyo Godfathers
6. Sleuth
7. Mystery Science Theater: Manos: Hands of Fate
8. His Girl Friday (Columbia-Tristar)
9. The Return
10. Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky)

16. spartanstew
1. Indiana Jones Trilogy (Box)
2. Seinfeld Seasons 1&2 (TV)
3. Spartacus (Criterion)
4. The Rock (Criterion)
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

17. dollfins1
1. Alien Quadrilogy
2. Star Trek TOS Season 1 (TV)
3. E.T. CE Giftset
4. Jurassic Park CE (DTS)
5. West Side Story Special Edition DVD Collector's Set
6. Wizard of Oz
7. Rebel Without a Cause (WB 2 disc SE)
8. The Great Escape (2-Disc Collector's Set)
9. Mary Poppins: 40th Anniversary Edition
10. Planet Of The Apes: 35th Anniversary CE

18. slop101
1. Brazil (Criterion)
2. Citizen Kane
3. Led Zeppelin DVD
4. Goodfellas 2-disc SE
5. The Bridge on the River Kwai 2-disc LE
6. Life Aquatic (2-disc Criterion)
7. Deadwood Season 1 (TV)
8. Dr. Strangelove (2-disc, 40th anniversary SE)
9. Bambi (2-disc platinum ed.)
10. Short Cuts (Criterion)

19. William Fuld
1. by Brakhage: an anthology (Box)
2. In the Mood for Love
3. Singin’ in the Rain SE
4. Simpsons Season 4
5. Talking Heads – Stop Making Sense
6. My Darling Clementine
7. 2001: A Space Odyssey
8. L'Âge d'Or
9. Mulholland Drive
10. Band of Outsiders

20. Dmacsg1
1. (need a replacement pick)
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

21. reefa
1. John Cassavettes - Five Films (Box)
2. Fight Club
3. Beatles Anthology (TV)
4. Almost Famous DC
5. Master and Commander 2-disc SE
6. Evil Dead 2 LE Tin
7. Dogma SE
8. Burden of Dreams (Criterion)
9. Hellboy 3 disc
10. Standing in the Shadows of Motown

22. ryuryu2949
1. LOTR: TT EE
2. Back to the Future Trilogy (Boxset)
3. Seinfeld Season 4 (TV)
4. Shawshank Redeption 3-disc Deluxe Edition
5. Unforgiven 2-disc SE
6. The Deer Hunter (Legacy Series)
7. The Usual Suspects SE
8. Rashomon (Criterion Collection)
9. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2-Disc CE)
10. Old School (Unrated, WS)

23. Atreus
1. M (Criterion)
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

24. Scott Weinberg
1. LOTR: ROTK EE
2. The Thing SE
3. Firefly (TV)
4. Monty Python and the Holy Grail (SE)
5. (need a replacement pick)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

25. Franchot
1. Honeymooners: Classic 39 Episodes (TV)
2. Casablanca (2 disc SE)
3. One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest SE
4. Raging Bull SE
5. Treasure of the Sierra Madre SE
6. Schindler’s List
7. North By Northwest
8. It Happened One Night
9. Woody Allen Collection #3, 1982-1987 (Box)
10. The Sound Of Music--Five Star Collection

26. Mhepburn20
1. The Adventures of Antoine Doinel (Box set)
2. Fanny and Alexander (CC)
3. Beauty and the Beast (CC)
4. Monty Python Megaset Flying Circus (TV)
5. Notorius (CC)
6. Ikuru (CC)
7. Amadeus (2 disc)
8. Looney Tunes Golden Collection
9. Who Framed Roger Rabbit - Vista Series
10. Lawrence of Arabia (LE)

27. Giles
1. Straw Dogs (Criterion)
2. Nausicaa and the valley of the wind
3. The Deadly Spawn
4. Step into Liquid
5. Jimmy Newtron Boy Genius
6. Das Boot
7. A Night at the Opera
8.
9.
10.

28. jigga6286
1. Black Hawk Down: Deluxe Edition
2. Clerks X
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

29. Bobbin
1. Home Movies: S2 (TV)
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

30. Drexl
1. Fantasia Anthology (Box set)
2. The Decalogue (TV)
3. Moulin Rouge (2001)
4. Aladdin Platinum
5. Amelie
6. Sunset Boulevard
7. Forrest Gump
8. Superman: The Movie
9. The Stunt Man LE
10. Wings of Desire

31. IDrinkMolson
1. Flash Gordon
2. Supergirl LE
3. Hard Boiled (Criterion)
4. MST3K: The Movie
5. Swamp Thing (Uncut, Recalled)
6. This Island Earth
7. X-Files Season 1 (TV)
8. Friday the 13th Box Set
9. Fletch
10. Little Shop of Horrors SE (recalled)

32. darkhawk
1. Gone With the Wind SE
2. The Thorn Birds (TV)
3. Hard Day’s Night
4. Rebecca (Criterion) OOP
5. Spellbound (Criterion)
6. Big Trouble in Little China (2 disk SE)
7. The French Connection SE
8. Wuthering Heights (1939)
9. The Lion King Platinum
10. Frankenstein (Legacy Collection)

[Nesbit]

Don't completely understand but here's my first pick - Ultimate Toy Box

[Groucho]

What don't you understand? I'll clarify the rules as needed.

[Sweet Baby James]

The Killer-Criterion:)

[Anomaly]

The Star Wars Trilogy

[RyoHazuki]

Band of Brothers

[Rockmjd23]

Dawn of the Dead: Ultimate Edition

[HoolieMan]

I'll take Mickey Mouse in Living Color Vol 1

[jdpatri]

Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000654ZK0/qid=1124984663/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-8174882-0808729?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

[Groucho]

Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000654ZK0/dvdtalk/qid=1124984663/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-8174882-0808729?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846While I didn't explicitly mention this in my thread, I'm going to have to disallow box sets containing previously-available DVD's.

[JLyon1515]

I think the clarification that was needed dealt with how one "drafts" DVDs. For those who are not into sports, the term can not mean anything really.

[jfrost]

How many entrants will you accept? May I suggest 10 (with 100 titles) to 12 (with 120 titles) entries?

Also, will we draft 1-10 then 10-1 and so forth? Groucho, are playing too or just being the commissioner?

I will take LOTR: FOTR EE

[Joe Molotov]

Lawrence of Arabia: Superbit

[exharrison]

Professional: Deluxe Edition

[digitalfreaknyc]

I think the clarification that was needed dealt with how one "drafts" DVDs. For those who are not into sports, the term can not mean anything really.

Yeah...i have no fucking clue what this thread is about.

[obscurelabel]

Somebody has to take it:

Salo (Criterion)

So now when do I get to draft again? Now? Now?

[Nesbit]

Yeah that was my major question. When do I draft again? Because I was the first one to select am I first in the second round?

[jfrost]

Yeah that was my major question. When do I draft again? Because I was the first one to select am I first in the second round?

I would expect you to be last in the second round, but 1st again in the third round.

[Nesbit]

That does make more sense. Will we get a place to explain why our collection is better before each vote?

[exharrison]

That does make more sense. Will we get a place to explain why our collection is better before each vote?
It sounds like it will be more of a popularity contest. Just based upon the forums opinions on everyone's movie picks.

[Nesbit]

Well that changes my strategy a little bit. I was thinking of compiling a more "Complete" collection with something for every type of mood/family member etc. Either way I'm happy with my first pick.

[jfrost]

I think there should be an extra rule - only one box set per collection. This will even the collections out, so one team cannot have 40 DVD's (10 picks x lets say 4 dvd's per set) and another only 10 (10 individual titles).

[cleaver]

Great idea! I love to draft!!!
I'll take the Godfather Trilogy!!!
Oh I got a steal!

[Cameron]

Snow WHite Platinum edition

[exharrison]

Great idea! I love to draft!!!
I'll take the Godfather Trilogy!!!
Oh I got a steal!
Does that fall under the rule of no box sets with previously released dvds or was it released as a set first?

[Nesbit]

released as a set first

[DJ_Longfellow]

Freaks and Geeks

[Groucho]

How many entrants will you accept? May I suggest 10 (with 100 titles) to 12 (with 120 titles) entries?It would make things easier when we get to the tournament if have 16, 32, 64, etc entrants. Since this is our first time through this, I'll limit the field to 16 (unless demand takes us higher).Also, will we draft 1-10 then 10-1 and so forth?That's a good idea, I've updated the rules to reflect this.Groucho, are playing too or just being the commissioner?I'll just be the commish this time around.

Also, I'm going to allow unlimited box sets for now, with the exception of those that contain DVD's that were already out (as mentioned before). Depending on how things go, I might change that in the future.

I've tried to clarify the rules in my initial post. If they still don't make sense to anybody, please speak up.

[jfrost]

1. Mrs. Nesbit
1. Ultimate Toy Box

2. Sweet Baby James
1. The Killer (Criterion)

3. Anomaly
1. Star Wars Trilogy

4. RyoHazuki
1. Band of Brothers

5. Rockmjd23
1. Dawn of the Dead (Ultimate Edition)

6. Hoolieman
1. Mickey Mouse in Living Color Vol 1

7. jdpatri
1. (need a replacement pick)

8. Joe Molotov
1. Lawrence of Arabia: Superbit

9. obscurelabel
1. Salo (Criterion)

10. cleaver
1. Godfather Trilogy

11. Cameron
1. Snow White Platinum


What about my pick (#8) of LOTR: FOTR EE?

[exharrison]

released as a set first
Well, then, thats a nice pick he made.

[Groucho]

Fixed...sorry

[Nesbit]

Groucho - Are we going to be able to "argue" why our collection is better in the top of each competition thread? It will make a big difference on my draft strategy.

[John Sinnott]

I'll take the Twilight Zone Season One Definitive Edition. I assume that's okay since this version of the show hasn't been released before. (i.e restored and with the shows in order.)

[spartanstew]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00003CXC5.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[dollfins1]

alien quadrilogy

[spartanstew]

alien quadrilogy


Doesn't meet the criteria

[slop101]

Brazil (Criterion)

[William Fuld]

by Brakhage: an anthology

[jfrost]

alien quadrilogy

Doesn't meet the criteria

I think it does meet the criteria... the versions in the quadrilogy were not released prior to the box set being released.

[exharrison]

Fixed...sorry
You also missed my pick of the Professional: DE.

[jfrost]

Groucho - Are you sure you want to go to 32 (we are currently at 19 i think)? Wont that take FOREVER?

[exharrison]

Groucho - Are you sure you want to go to 32 (we are currently at 19 i think)? Wont that take FOREVER?
Thought he said 16.

[Dmacsg1]

Surprised no one has said it yet! Army of Darkness!!!

[Groucho]

Surprised no one has said it yet! Army of Darkness!!!Which version?

[Groucho]

Okay, I've updated the list and we've now got 20 players. I'm going to limit the field to 32. So, if you're the 32nd player, go ahead and make both your draft pics at the same time.

I've accepted everything except for jdpatri's pick, which I'm still waiting a replacement for.

Mrs. Nesbit, you are welcome to "sell" your collection to the voters any way you'd like.

[exharrison]

Surprised no one has said it yet! Army of Darkness!!!
Haha, that was gonna be my round 2 pick.

[reefa]

If possible, I'd like to ring in with the John Cassavettes - Five Films set.

[ryuryu2949]

LOTR: TT EE for me please

[cleaver]

LOTR: TT EE for me please

Are you sure you don't want You Got Served?

[Atreus]

I'll go with the remastered Criterion M.

[Scott Weinberg]

Good picks so far. I'll jump in with...

The Matrix Collection

[cleaver]

Good picks so far. I'll jump in with...

The Matrix Collection

Ineligible

[Atreus]

Good picks so far. I'll jump in with...

The Matrix Collection
Just curious, Ultimate or digipak?

and isn't this previoulsy released films anyway?

[Scott Weinberg]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002Y69NG.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Franchot]

Warner Legends: Adventures Of Robin Hood / Yankee Doodle Dandy / Treasure Of Sierra Madre/Here's Looking At You (Documentary)

[jfrost]

Warner Legends: Adventures Of Robin Hood / Yankee Doodle Dandy / Treasure Of Sierra Madre/Here's Looking At You (Documentary)

These were each released individually on the same day as the set... I think they should be counted individually. Thoughts?

[Groucho]

I think I'm going to disallow both The Matrix Collection and Warner Legends.

[jfrost]

I think I'm going to disallow both The Matrix Collection and Warner Legends.

If it's the Ulimate Matix Collection, the discs are not available separately.

[illennium]

The Adventures of Antoine Doinel

[Case01]

Straw Dogs, Criterion Collection

[obscurelabel]

The Adventures of Antoine Doinel

The 400 Blows (Criterion) - released 3/31/98
The Adventures of Antoine Doinel - released 4/29/2003

Isn't this one ineligible?

[Franchot]

Honeymooners: Classic 39 Episodes

[Groucho]

The 400 Blows (Criterion) - released 3/31/98
The Adventures of Antoine Doinel - released 4/29/2003

Isn't this one ineligible?I would agree with you. I'm going to disallow it.

So, all of the discs in the Ultimate Matrix Collection are unique to that set? Even the the Animatrix, etc?

[slop101]

About half the material on the Matrix set is unique to it (the commentaries, most of the extras and the transfer for the original Matrix) - everything else was and still is available separately.

[jigga6286]

Black Hawk Down: Deluxe Edition

[Bobbin]

Home Movies: S2

[Drexl]

The Fantasia Anthology

[IDrinkMolson]

Flash Gordon

[darkhawk]

Gone with the Wind 4 disc set

[spartanstew]

I think it does meet the criteria... the versions in the quadrilogy were not released prior to the box set being released.

Well, it seems Groucho agrees with you, but that's not the way I read the rule in the OP or I would have selected the Quadrilogy. I thought it couldn't contain a movie that was previously released seperately which makes more sense. What if the only difference between a movie in a boxed set and the indivisual release is the addition of dts? That would count? That doesn't seem right.

[TNAJason]

My pick...
Terminator 2:Ultimate Edition

[Mhepburn20]

The 400 Blows (Criterion) - released 3/31/98
The Adventures of Antoine Doinel - released 4/29/2003

Isn't this one ineligible?

I would agree with you. I'm going to disallow it.

So, all of the discs in the Ultimate Matrix Collection are unique to that set? Even the the Animatrix, etc?

The 400 blows disc in the Adventures of Antoine Doinel collection is radically different than the original release to the extent of including the entire next segment of the "adventures" and a remastered picture quality (check the DVD beaver comparisons) as well as new art work on the box and disc. It would be like disallowing LOTR Fellowship EE because the Theatrical edition had come out previously. Additionally none of the films are currently available seperately and except for the 400 blows none of them ever have been. Doesn't seem to match with the current rules to disallow that selection.

Additionally that would rule out the Toy Box, Gone with the Wind 4 disc and many others since a bare bones original preceded those collections.

[Drexl]

Additionally that would rule out the Toy Box, Gone with the Wind 4 disc and many others since a bare bones original preceded those collections.

The individual Toy Story discs were released on the same day as the Toy Box, so I think it's still eligible.

Have we exceeded the number of players? I think I was 30. Darkhawk was 32. Groucho, Franchot's pick of The Honeymooners (which you currently have at #28) was a replacement pick for his ineligible #25 pick of Warner Legends, so put jigga6286 at #28. From now on, I think we should ask that anyone who is making a replacement pick, label it as a replacement and indicate what number it is in the post to make it easier for you.

[jfrost]

The 400 blows disc in the Adventures of Antoine Doinel collection is radically different than the original release to the extent of including the entire next segment of the "adventures" and a remastered picture quality (check the DVD beaver comparisons) as well as new art work on the box and disc. It would be like disallowing LOTR Fellowship EE because the Theatrical edition had come out previously. Additionally none of the films are currently available seperately and except for the 400 blows none of them ever have been. Doesn't seem to match with the current rules to disallow that selection.

Additionally that would rule out the Toy Box, Gone with the Wind 4 disc and many others since a bare bones original preceded those collections.

I don't think it has anything to do with bare bones pre-releases... it has to do with box sets that contain the SE's that are individually available.

[exharrison]

I don't think it has anything to do with bare bones pre-releases... it has to do with box sets that contain the SE's that are individually available.
I don't think it was about the SE's. I think it was that you can't have a set that is a collection of previously released dvds. Like the LOTR set was just a collection of the extended edition dvds. I don't think it had anything extra. I don't really know how bonus discs would factor into this though.

[Mhepburn20]

I don't think it was about the SE's. I think it was that you can't have a set that is a collection of previously released dvds. Like the LOTR set was just a collection of the extended edition dvds. I don't think it had anything extra. I don't really know how bonus discs would factor into this though.

In which case The Adventures of Antoine Doinel would still be eligible since only one of the movies was ever previously released and the new disc is a significant improvement including a new short feature on the disc.

[Groucho]

Oy vey. All of this is giving me a headache. I'll work out all the pending issues tommorrow.

New rules:

Only one boxset per player
Only one television season set per player

(all other picks must be individual movies)

[exharrison]

In which case The Adventures of Antoine Doinel would still be eligible since only one of the movies was ever previously released and the new disc is a significant improvement including a new short feature on the disc.
Well, ultimately, that is for Groucho to decide. But you have explained your argument, so maybe he will change his mind, maybe not.

[Groucho]

Sign-ups now closed

We can now start reverse picks for round two, beginning with TNAJason.

illennium - I've been convinced...I'm going to allow "The Adventures of Antoine Doinel"

[Drexl]

Why was I bumped?

[exharrison]

Why was I bumped?
I think because this has not been easy for Groucho to supervise. The administering of the rules is a bit of an undertaking and mistakes will be made. Hopefully Groucho does something to put you back in.

[jfrost]

Why doesn't Drexl take over one of the spots where they have failed to make a replacement pick?

[exharrison]

Why doesn't Drexl take over one of the spots where they have failed to make a replacement pick?
That was the first idea I thought of.

[Franchot]

Regarding "Warner's Legends" which I picked:

These were each released individually on the same day as the set... I think they should be counted individually. Thoughts?

I think I'm going to disallow both The Matrix Collection and Warner Legends.

The individual Toy Story discs were released on the same day as the Toy Box, so I think it's still eligible.

By this logic my pick of "Warner's Legends" should be ALLOWED or "The Toy Story Box Set" should be DISALLOWED.

(How about we start all over again and disallow ALL box sets? Just like baseball players in the draft, we are drafting one movie/player at a time--not teams or partial teams. It might make it easier?)

[Groucho]

Sorry, Drexl...you've been added back in.

This means that TNAJason is now first alternate, and will take the place of any player that drops out.

It's now Round 2, and darkhawk is up!

Regarding the "Toy Story Box," weren't the discs in that different than the discs available in the other releases?

[Groucho]

New rule to "keep things moving":

When it is your turn to pick, you have 1 hour to do so. After that time, the next person in line can make their pick. You will still be able to go back and make your pick again at any time. This rule does not apply on weekends or after 5pm Pacific Time.

IDrinkMolson, you're up!

[Nesbit]

I know there was a 2 disc and 3 disc release of toy story films on the same day but I don't remember if the film discs were any different. They were not available seperately though.

[cleaver]

New rule to "keep things moving":

When it is your turn to pick, you have 1 hour to do so. After that time, the next person in line can make their pick. You will still be able to go back and make your pick again at any time. This rule does not apply on weekends or after 5pm Pacific Time.

IDrinkMolson, you're up!

I like the rule, but when does it start in the morning? How about 7 or 8 AM PST.

[Sweet Baby James]

I think that you may have bitten off more than you can chew with this thread Groucho.:) BTW, I want to clarify my first pick. My pick was for the John Woo movie, not the double feature noir set(The Killers).

[jfrost]

Regarding "Warner's Legends" which I picked:







By this logic my pick of "Warner's Legends" should be ALLOWED or "The Toy Story Box Set" should be DISALLOWED.

(How about we start all over again and disallow ALL box sets? Just like baseball players in the draft, we are drafting one movie/player at a time--not teams or partial teams. It might make it easier?)

Toy Story - Ultimate Toy Box was released with content not available individually... while Warner Legend's did not. I think this is the differentiator. As for the Ultimate Matrix Collection, I think it should still count... It has new transfers/audio tracks and many more extras then available separately.

[The Bus]

Here's my thought on this:

All boxsets and re-releases should be allowed. It's only fair.

What should be disallowed are the fake "Bonus Packs!" where two DVDs are just shrinkwrapped. (Minority Report / AI 2-disc, for example).

[Scott Weinberg]

So it's "no" on The Matrix Collection for me? Oh well. I'll take The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King - Extended Edition.

[cleaver]

Toy Story - Ultimate Toy Box was released with content not available individually... while Warner Legend's did not. I think this is the differentiator. As for the Ultimate Matrix Collection, I think it should still count... It has new transfers/audio tracks and many more extras then available separately.

The Warner Bros Collection was released the same day as the DVDs individually and were not available prior, same as the Ultimate Toy Box. I don't see a problem with either. The Alien Quadrilogy was released prior to the restored cut were released individually, but were released prior in the Alien Legacy, and I think at least one of them is an identical cut. Borderline to me. Indentical cuts of all the Matrix movies were available prior to the release of the Matrix Collection. I agree it shouldn't have been allowed. The 400 Blows was available prior to the Adventures of Antoine Doinel, but I don't have a problem with that one.

The individual Godfathers weren't available until months after the release of the Godfather Collection.

[John Sinnott]

My thoughts are the opposite of The Bus. I think no sets should be allowed. How can a four or five movie set compete with a single disc? They aren't on the same footing. How do you rate a bad film in a box set? Does the Godfather set get marks against it since the forth (wretched) film is included? Or is it just ignored?

Also, I didn't pick the The Adventures of Antoine Doinel since the rules said it wouldn't be allowed. :(

One more question: What is the definition of a boxed set? Is a moive with a disc of extras a boxed set (I'd say no.) What about something like "O" where there is a second movie on the disc. (I'd still say that's not a boxed set.) What about two movies in one case like the Criterion "Killers"? Since there's only one set allowed, I think we should define this soon.

So, how are the match-ups at the end going to work. I suggest that everyone write a short paragraph about why your choice is the best, and then Groucho pairs them up. He can post the first pair and everyone who is in the contest votes. The most votes win. Wadda ya think?

[Anomaly]

How do you rate a bad film in a box set? Does the Godfather set get marks against it since the forth (wretched) film is included? Or is it just ignored?

There are only three Godfather films. And have you actually seen the third one? Or are you just saying the third is 'wretched' because it's the cool thing to do?

[IDrinkMolson]

New rule to "keep things moving":

When it is your turn to pick, you have 1 hour to do so. After that time, the next person in line can make their pick. You will still be able to go back and make your pick again at any time. This rule does not apply on weekends or after 5pm Pacific Time.

IDrinkMolson, you're up!

Oh crap, didn't see this.... don't see an updated list

Is Supergirl LE still available?

I have a few I want here, but I'm not sure where to check if it was the first version released.

AH, now I see the updated list, I was nervous. :eek:

[jfrost]

So no picks so far today... who all are now eligible to make their round two selections?

[IDrinkMolson]

Actually, why is my first round pick "Pending" on the first page?
Do I have to say "1980"?

http://dvdtalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6328352&postcount=69

[Groucho]

Sorry, fixed. Drexl is now up...

[John Sinnott]

There are only three Godfather films. And have you actually seen the third one? Or are you just saying the third is 'wretched' because it's the cool thing to do?

Opps! You're right! How did I make that mistake?

And yes, I saw it in the theater and then again when it was released on DVD. Watch it some time and you'll know why everyone dislikes it.

[Drexl]

Can I pick The Decalogue, or is that considered a boxed set and thus not eligible under the one boxed set rule?

[Groucho]

I would consider that a boxset.

[John Sinnott]

Can I pick The Decalogue, or is that considered a boxed set and thus not eligible under the one boxed set rule?

They were originally broadcast on TV right? I'd say that falls under the TV set rule.

[John Sinnott]

I would consider that a boxset.

So does that mean that we can only have one boxed set (BTW a box set is a set of boxes...) INCLUDING a TV series?

[Groucho]

Okay, then. I'll allow it. :lol:

(Next game, no boxsets will be allowed, period. They've turned this whole thing into a huge hassle)

[Drexl]

I think that boxed sets should be allowed if they contain DVD material not available separately. The Toy Box would count because you can't get the bonus disc on its own (if I'm not mistaken, the movie discs are different too, but they wouldn't have to be to make the set eligible). However, something like the Scorsese box or any of those boxes with an actor like Tom Cruise or Adam Sandler would not count because you can get everything in the set by buying all of the discs separately.

Also, if someone picks a boxed set, that should not make the individually available titles unavailable, IMO. For example, if someone takes the Alien Quadrilogy, someone else could still take Alien.

[jfrost]

I think that boxed sets should be allowed if they contain DVD material not available separately. The Toy Box would count because you can't get the bonus disc on its own (if I'm not mistaken, the movie discs are different too, but they wouldn't have to be to make the set eligible). However, something like the Scorsese box or any of those boxes with an actor like Tom Cruise or Adam Sandler would not count because you can get everything in the set by buying all of the discs separately.

Also, if someone picks a boxed set, that should not make the individually available titles unavailable, IMO. For example, if someone takes the Alien Quadrilogy, someone else could still take Alien.

I Totally Agree!!!

[Anomaly]

And yes, I saw it in the theater and then again when it was released on DVD. Watch it some time and you'll know why everyone dislikes it.

I have seen it, and while I think the first two are better it's pretty good in my book. But hey, it's your opinion.

[cleaver]

Okay, then. I'll allow it. :lol:

(Next game, no boxsets will be allowed, period. They've turned this whole thing into a huge hassle)
I think it would be more fun if everything was allowed. I feel like Wrong Men/Notorious Women and the Alfred Hitchcock Collection are like Mike Williams and Maurice Clarett.

[darkhawk]

The Thorn Birds

[jfrost]

Since the 1 hr rule was invoked, 8 round 2 picks should have taken place by now... so the following players are all on the clock:

Bobbin
jigga6286
Case01
illennium
Franchot

[Nick Danger]

Who's voting for the best collection? The players, or the forum at large?
Are the eligible disks restricted to R1?

[Franchot]

Sounds like my original pick of the the boxset "Warner Legends" can NOW be included, correct? (By the way the boxset includes the bonus disc "Here's Loonking At You" which is exclusive to the boxset and is not available separately.) So...

Warner Legends Collection

[Fincher Fan]

This thread sucks...



...Because I missed out.

[Cameron]

dang...you guys need to hurry so i can pick something

[jigga6286]

I'm waiting for the people in front of me

[exharrison]

Since the 1 hr rule was invoked, 8 round 2 picks should have taken place by now... so the following players are all on the clock:

Bobbin
jigga6286
Case01
illennium
Franchot
The 1hr rule is no longer in effect, right?

[Drexl]

Sounds like my original pick of the the boxset "Warner Legends" can NOW be included, correct? (By the way the boxset includes the bonus disc "Here's Loonking At You" which is exclusive to the boxset and is not available separately.) So...

Warner Legends Collection

It's Groucho's call. I was just saying how I think it should work in future drafts, but Groucho makes the rules in this one.

[dollfins1]

i made up a list of picks for the next round(s) and have it ready to go whenever its my turn. alot of work on your part groucho, and i thank you for that. great idea but hard to pull off.

[Fincher Fan]

Cool idea though, Groucho. Once all the peeps involved have made their choices, will there be a public poll to vote on who picked the best collection?

[jigga6286]

I'll pick Clerks X

[IDrinkMolson]

I'll pick Clerks X

Sooo, we can pick re-releases as long as they're not in a box set?

[exharrison]

Sooo, we can pick re-releases as long as they're not in a box set?
I'm pretty sure since he allowed LOTR EE and Leon DE

[jfrost]

Come on people... I am anxious to make my next pick :)

Also, I am running a similar DVD draft over at my site. So if anyone wants in on that one (which will be a max of 16 teams), head on over to: http://www.upcomingdiscs.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3683

This could be a good opportunity for those who wanted in to this one but missed out.

[spartanstew]

Or if someone else wants in, they can take my spot. I thought this would progress a bit faster and since I'm going out of town tomorrow and will have limited access to a computer for several days, I'm out.



Stew

[Anomaly]

Yeah, I'm kind of waiting to make my next pick here. Perhaps everybody should just get to make their picks now, and then we wait until everybody finishes. And then do the same thing for round three and so on.

[cleaver]

pick

[John Sinnott]

So Groucho, has the game started up again? It's past 8 am Pacific, does the one-hour clock start up again?

[RyoHazuki]

For my second round pick: Rules of the Game Criterion

[jfrost]

For my second round pick: Rules of the Game Criterion

Gotta wait for your turn... and it could be a while at this pace :)

Scott Weinberg
Atreus
ryuryu2949

Are all on the clock.

[slop101]

My suggestion to make things easier (either for this round/game or the next one), would be to eliminate ALL sets that have more than one move, and maybe even TV shows.

[John Sinnott]

reefa is up now too.

[ryuryu2949]

I pick the Back to the Future Boxset (the correct one of course).

[William Fuld]

Pick #2: In the Mood for Love

[RyoHazuki]

Gotta wait for your turn... and it could be a while at this pace :)

Scott Weinberg
Atreus
ryuryu2949

Are all on the clock.
Pssh. I wait for nobody. But if somebody steals my pick, I'm gonna be upset.

[Case01]

This 1 hour system doesn't seem to be working. Can I just make my second pick now?

Deer Hunter: Legacy Series

[exharrison]

Pssh. I wait for nobody. But if somebody steals my pick, I'm gonna be upset.
It would be fair game.

[Scott Weinberg]

You're still waiting on a replacement pick from me? I offered one on page 4 of this thread:

So it's "no" on The Matrix Collection for me? Oh well. I'll take The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King - Extended Edition.

[cleaver]

lets draft

[reefa]

My bad. I'll go with Fight Club.

[John Sinnott]

Let's try to get through more today...

Dmacsg1 you're up.

[Anomaly]

And we're doing ten rounds of this? Oh boy.

[John Sinnott]

Under the one hour rule these people can now pick:

18. slop101
19. William Fuld
20. Dmacsg1
22. ryuryu2949
23. Atreus
24. Scott Weinberg
25. Franchot
26. illennium
28. jigga6286
29. Bobbin
32. darkhawk

[Franchot]

Warner Legends

If that was already accepted or isn't accepted, Casablanca .

[Groucho]

My internet access has been going up and down, but I'm going to be making some changes to the rules.

Draft picks are now "first come, first serve." After 24 hours, the next round will begin (excluding weekends). Just to make things fair, round 3 will begin tomorrow morning at 9am Pacific.

If you miss two rounds in a row, I will replace you with an alternate.

How does that sound to everybody?

[Anomaly]

Good.

Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones

[jfrost]

fine... my pick is Se7en (Platinum Series)

[exharrison]

Pulp Fiction: Collector's Edition

[cleaver]

Is the World War 2 Collection with Saving Private Ryan and documentaries a movie box set?

[John Sinnott]

Criterion #239 - The Lower Depths

[Rockmjd23]

Terminator 2: Extreme Edition

[Nesbit]

Fear & Loathing Criterion

[slop101]

OldBoy ultimate edition:

http://www.dvdfromkorea.com/board/board/data/board_4/oldboyue.jpg

[jfrost]

OldBoy ultimate edition:

http://www.dvdfromkorea.com/board/board/data/board_4/oldboyue.jpg

Is that a R1 release? If not, I don't think it should be included.

[Groucho]

Yes, let's limit this to R1 releases.

[jfrost]

Groucho - can you please update the picks on the first page so we can get an idea who still needs to pick and what titles have been taken?

Thanks.

[cleaver]

Is the World War 2 Collection with Saving Private Ryan and documentaries a movie box set?
Is this okay if I already have the Godfather Collection?

[Groucho]

Okay, I've updated the front page.

Picks I'm not accepting:

Franchot -- I'm not going to accept "Warner Legends Collection". This is more of a personal "feeling" than anything. If the films were more strongly connected I might feel different, but really it's just a grab-bag of classics from that studio. So I put you down for "Casablanca".

Cleaver -- I don't think I'd count that WW2 set since "Saving Private Ryan" was already in release.

[cleaver]

OK I'll Terminator 2 Ultimate Edition

[Sweet Baby James]

I'll take The Shield Season 2 as my TV pick. Thanks.:)

[Franchot]

Fair enough. Your explanation makes good sense.

[obscurelabel]

Second pick - The Unbearable Lightness of Being (Criterion)

[John Sinnott]

OK I'll Terminator 2 Ultimate Edition

Rockmjd23 already picked it.

[Groucho]

Rockmjd23 picked the Extreme Edition.

[slop101]

My replacement pick:

Citizen Kane

[John Sinnott]

Rockmjd23 picked the Extreme Edition.

opps...my bad. :blush: Sorry.

[Rockmjd23]

OK I'll Terminator 2 Ultimate Edition
bah, Mine has the better transfer! :p

[Sweet Baby James]

Do upcoming titles count? I see that someone picked the legacy version of The Deer Hunter and that doesn't come out until next week. If upcoming releases count, then I'll definitely have to think hard about my future picks.

[Franchot]

No future picks. Otherwise I'm picking...(I'm not going to tell you!)

And please amend my pick of Casablanca to the 2 disc Special Edition...'cos that's the one that I meant.

[jfrost]

What does everyone think a good cout-off date should be? September 13th? 20th?

[Scott Weinberg]

I'd like to pick: John Carpenter's The Thing CE.

[Cameron]

crap....knowing when to pick is confusing. Ok for my next pick I am goint to take Wrong Men And Notorious Women: The Alfred Hitchcock Criterion Box set....thats my one boxset.

[Joe Molotov]

Once Upon a Time in the West

[jfrost]

crap....knowing when to pick is confusing. Ok for my next pick I am goint to take Wrong Men And Notorious Women: The Alfred Hitchcock Criterion Box set....thats my one boxset.

Were not all of the discs in that set previously released individually?

[cleaver]

bah, Mine has the better transfer! :p
What? I can't hear you over my DTS-ES audio.

[Groucho]

I agree that future discs should not be able to be drafted.

Case01, this means I'll need a replacement pick for "Deer Hunter" (you'll be able to pick it again on Tuesday). Sorry for the sudden rule change, it's something I didn't consider.

Cameron, I don't believe that box set is eligible. Unless you can convince me otherwise, I'll need a replacement pick.

[John Sinnott]

A question Groucho: Can we select a single movie from a boxed set that has not been released individually?

My pick: City Lights (the recent 2-disc set.)

[Groucho]

I don't think I'm going to allow picking individual movies that are only available within box sets.

However, you're in luck because the 2-disc "City Lights" is available seperately. I just looked it up on Amazon.

However, you're out of luck because it's not 9am Pacific time for another two hours.

[Nesbit]

I'll take Scarface for my pick today. Forget the name of the edition. Collector's edition? The new one.

[obscurelabel]

I believe I'm eligible to draft again.

I'll take This is Spinal Tap (Criterion)

[Groucho]

9am Pacific is still 40 minutes away...

[spartanstew]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002UE1X0.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


Seinfeld Limited Edition Gift Set (Seasons 1-3 with Original Script, Salt & Pepper Shakers, and Playing Cards)

[jfrost]

I thought we had to wait until 9:00 PST

[Groucho]

spartanstew, I can't allow that. You can pick one of the seasons that are inside the set however.

[dollfins1]

wow i didn't know we picked up again and i been checking this thread everyday. i was gonna take the seinfield giftset (seasons 1 & 2) but spartanstew beat me to it! i'll go with my backup: Star Trek The Original Series - The Complete First Season (1966)

[slop101]

My pick for today:

Led Zeppelin DVD - (not Song Remains The Same)


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008PX8P.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[jfrost]

My round 3 pick is... Gladiator (Extended Edition)

[cleaver]

Monsters, Inc.

[ryuryu2949]

seinfeld season 4 for me.

[Nesbit]

Sorry about not waiting. Scarface Collectors Edition for me.

[Groucho]

Round 3 has begun

I will now apply all the early picks, since there was no overlap. Still, you all get the "wagging finger of shame." ;)

dollfins1, if you prefer the Seinfeld gift set you can still have it since spartanstew's pick was ineligible. Let me know.

[Groucho]

FYI, as it will probably come into play next round:

I have changed the way alternates work. Instead of keeping a list of them, I'll make open slots "first come first serve."

[exharrison]

Undeclared-Complete Series

[dollfins1]

Round 3 has begun

I will now apply all the early picks, since there was no overlap. Still, you all get the "wagging finger of shame." ;)

dollfins1, if you prefer the Seinfeld gift set you can still have it since spartanstew's pick was ineligible. Let me know.

thanks anyway groucho! i say let the kid have it. i'm pretty sure he meant the same one i was thinking of. its all about bang for the buck. thought it was seasons 1 & 2 (even though i have the damn thing myself lol). good pick on his part since they were all released the same day. gotta work till 10 pm est so i figure my next pick will be up by then. laterz

[Groucho]

I changed the rules, so you can submit your third pick any time.

[RyoHazuki]

I'll take the Good Bad and the Ugly SE.

[dollfins1]

would the et giftset be eligible? includes 2 or 3 versions of the movie cd soundtrack book etc. if so i'll take that as my third. this is more fun than my fantasy football draft!

[ryuryu2949]

Round 3 has begun

I will now apply all the early picks, since there was no overlap. Still, you all get the "wagging finger of shame." ;)

dollfins1, if you prefer the Seinfeld gift set you can still have it since spartanstew's pick was ineligible. Let me know.

Groucho, I was going to claim the giftset before I claimed Vol. 4. Can I have the giftset since dfollins has not replied and I was one of the first post-noon picks? Thanks.

[Groucho]

The ET collector's edition is eligible, sounds like that giftset contains the CE, so it is not.

Changed ryuryu2949's third pick to Seinfeld season 1&2.

[DJ_Longfellow]

My two picks (sorry for the delay):
1. Nightmare on elm Street BOX SET
2. Evil Dead - Book of the Dead

[jfrost]

My two picks (sorry for the delay):
1. Nightmare on elm Street BOX SET
2. Evil Dead - Book of the Dead

Is NOES collection eligible? I think all of the titles were released individually prior to the set. Not sure though.

[ryuryu2949]

The ET collector's edition is eligible, sounds like that giftset contains the CE, so it is not.

Changed ryuryu2949's third pick to Seinfeld season 1&2.

Groucho, I want the giftset that has Volumes 1, 2, and 3, as well as the salt and pepper shakers and the script. if i can't have that, just give me volume 4. thanks.

[dollfins1]

The ET collector's edition is eligible, sounds like that giftset contains the CE, so it is not.

Changed ryuryu2949's third pick to Seinfeld season 1&2.


groucho, this is the one i'm refering to:

http://www.dvdfile.com/software/review/dvd-video_5/et_ugs.html

i thought there was alot on here that wasn't included in the regular CE, but you're the boss i will stand with your decision.

[exharrison]

Is NOES collection eligible? I think all of the titles were released individually prior to the set. Not sure though.
I think the thread in dvd bargains said they were released after the set.

edit:
For what it is worth:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432678
They said the ones in the collection were released later in red boxes. Too lazy to do any real checking to see if they were released before the set.

[William Fuld]

Pick #3: Singin' in the Rain: SE

[Cameron]

here is my take on the hitchcock set. It was released same day as the individual titles (Like the Toy Box, alien quadrilogy) You could say it was a rerelease of the anchor bay titles, but it had exclusive content like radio shows, documentaries, and commentaries not found anywhere else. Other re-releases have been allowed in this draft when a more complete edition was put out (Fear & Loathing, Scarface, Dawn of the Dead, T2, Lotr EE, Se7en, Gladiator, Lawrence of Arabia, Professional, Twilight Zone, Brazil Clerks, Gone with the wind)

Thanks for the hard work Groucho...I'll stand by your desicion

[Groucho]

ryuryu2949, as previously stated the Seinfeld 1,2,3 giftset is ineligible. So I'll swap you back to season 4.

dollfins, I believe two of the discs in the ET gift pack are exactly the same as those found in the CE, which is why it's ineligible. I went ahead and put you down for the CE, but I can change it if you want.

NOES, as I recall these initially came out in the box set only. Down the line the films were released individually.

Cameron I think you're correct...I'll go ahead and allow it unless somebody can state otherwise.

As always, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. I'm pretty much going from memory on this stuff.

[William Fuld]

here is my take on the hitchcock set. It was released same day as the individual titles (Like the Toy Box, alien quadrilogy) You could say it was a rerelease of the anchor bay titles, but it had exclusive content like radio shows, documentaries, and commentaries not found anywhere else. Other re-releases have been allowed in this draft when a more complete edition was put out (Fear & Loathing, Scarface, Dawn of the Dead, T2, Lotr EE, Se7en, Gladiator, Lawrence of Arabia, Professional, Twilight Zone, Brazil Clerks, Gone with the wind)

The Hitchcock titles had been released by Criterion individually before the boxed set.

[Groucho]

Whoops, I spoke too soon?!

[Cameron]

only two of them were previously released. the other 3 came out same day as the box. Thanks Groucho.

for my third pick...Jaws - 30th Anniversary Edition

[cleaver]

The 39 Steps and The Lady Vanishes were released well before Wrong Men/Notorious Women and everything in the set is available in the individual editions.

[Groucho]

Let me clarify something...a box set is ineligible if even one disc is the same as a previous release. But if the disc is changed in some way (new commentary, new transfer, whatever) the box is fair game.

Does this make sense?

Based on that, I think the Hitchcock set is ineligible (sorry for waffling on this, I'm relying on you guys to tell me what came when)

[Rockmjd23]

Videodrome: Criterion Collection

[Franchot]

One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest--Special Edition

[Sweet Baby James]

For my movie set pick, I select the Warner Gangsters Collection.:)

[Cameron]

ok ok

then i take
edison the invention of the movies from Kino as my second pick.

Jaws becomes my third

[Groucho]

For my movie set pick, I select the Warner Gangsters Collection.:)I'm going to disallow that for the same reasons I disallowed the other Warner collection.

[Sweet Baby James]

I'll take Boogie Nights-Platinum(2 disc) as my third selection. Thanks.

[Anomaly]

3RD Pick:

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace

Woo-hoo, all five Star Wars films. I automatically win. ;)

[darkhawk]

The Alfred Hitchcock Signature Collection

[Groucho]

The Alfred Hitchcock Signature CollectionContains the previously released "North by Northwest." Not eligible, sorry.

[IDrinkMolson]

I'm confused, can I pick my 3rd pick now?

[Groucho]

Yes, sir!

[IDrinkMolson]

Thanks!

3rd round:

Hard Boiled Criterion

[Drexl]

Moulin Rouge (2001)

[reefa]

The Beatles Anthology

[darkhawk]

Hard Day's Night

[jfrost]

I know I am a hour early, but I wont have computer access for the rest of the day. My round 4 pick is... Memento (Limited Edition).

[slop101]

Goodfellas 2-disc SE

[ryuryu2949]

Since slop was early, i choose Goodfellas 2-disc SE. If it is ruled I cannot have that, then I choose the Shawshank Redeption Deluxe/Limited edition (with the cd soundtrack and the book and other goodies).2

[exharrison]

Princess Bride:SE

[cleaver]

Rushmore Criterion

[Franchot]

Stanley Kubrick Collection Whoops. Probably won't be accepted.

Raging Bull--Special Edition

[ryuryu2949]

Since slop was early, i choose Goodfellas 2-disc SE. If it is ruled I cannot have that, then I choose the Shawshank Redeption Deluxe/Limited edition (with the cd soundtrack and the book and other goodies).2

Groucho, can we please have a ruling?

[Anomaly]

Can we pick DVDs that are not out yet? If so, then I've gotta go with Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith.

If not, then I'll go with Family Vol. 2.

[dollfins1]

Jurassic Park :Collector's Edition (DTS)

[exharrison]

Can we pick DVDs that are not out yet? If so, then I've gotta go with Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith.

If not, then I'll go with Family Vol. 2.
Nope. Check the first post for all the rule changes.

[slop101]

Since slop was early, i choose Goodfellas 2-disc SE. If it is ruled I cannot have that, then I choose the Shawshank Redeption Deluxe/Limited edition (with the cd soundtrack and the book and other goodies).2
I was going by my own clock, which is correct - DVDTalk's clock is a good 5 minutes behind. Check the forum feedback threads for more info.

[Sweet Baby James]

4th pick-Akira Limited Edition Tin.:)

[Sweet Baby James]

Can we pick DVDs that are not out yet? If so, then I've gotta go with Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith.

If not, then I'll go with Family Vol. 2.
You must really have a hard-on for Star Wars.:D2:

[ryuryu2949]

I was going by my own clock, which is correct - DVDTalk's clock is a good 5 minutes behind. Check the forum feedback threads for more info.

Both my watch, cell phone, and computer clock are within 1 minute of the dvdtalk time. In any event, the dvdtalk clock is standard and I think that has always been the "official" time. Groucho?

[John Sinnott]

My next pick is The Incredibles 2-disc SE

[John Sinnott]

I was going by my own clock, which is correct - DVDTalk's clock is a good 5 minutes behind. Check the forum feedback threads for more info.

I think your clock is off. According to the official US time, DVDTalk is correct.

http://nist.time.gov

[slop101]

Well, since I don't have dvdtalk's clock counting down in front of me, I just hit reply when I had 9:00 on my office clock which I thought was the same as dvdtalk's. Why is it my fault when my clock is correct. Anyways, so I can avoid this sort of thing, I think I'm gonna hold off on my pick for tomorrow until WELL after 9.

[exharrison]

I was going by my own clock, which is correct - DVDTalk's clock is a good 5 minutes behind. Check the forum feedback threads for more info.


Well, since I don't have dvdtalk's clock counting down in front of me, I just hit reply when I had 9:00 on my office clock which I thought was the same as dvdtalk's.

Dude, don't change your story. First, you stated that yours is correct and that DVDtalk's is a good 5 minutes behind. Then you state that you thought it was the same as dvdtalk's.


Why is it my fault when my clock is correct. Anyways, so I can avoid this sort of thing, I think I'm gonna hold off on my pick for tomorrow until WELL after 9.
It isn't your fault that your clock is correct. It is your fault that your clock is incorrect. I just checked against world time and it shows that dvdtalk is <1 minute behind. Your post is 5 minutes early by dvdtalk time. That is 4 minutes ahead by world time, still early.
If you want to get it in at 9 and not be early, then you can just refresh until the clock at the bottom of the page says it is time.

[cleaver]

Can we pick DVDs that are not out yet? If so, then I've gotta go with Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith.

If not, then I'll go with Family Vol. 2.
I say we let this guy take RotS, as long as he drafts Beneath the Dome, the Star Wars Holiday Special, Star Wars Clone Wars Vol 1, and Wookies Gone Wild Mardi Gras Edition.

[exharrison]

I say we let this guy take RotS, as long as he drafts Beneath the Dome, the Star Wars Holiday Special, Star Wars Clone Wars Vol 1, and Wookies Gone Wild Mardi Gras Edition.
Wow, you have an evil streak.

[cleaver]

Wow, you have an evil streak.
Not really. I deleted "and George Lucas's jock strap" before I posted.

[William Fuld]

Pick #4: The Simpsons: Season 4 (TV)