I guess you're not supposed to cover any stories othern than death in Iraq. If you're not doing 24 hour Bush-bashing and talking about how terrible things are going, you're showing "meaningless garbage". At least, that's what i'm reading. No wonder CNN is tanking.
CNN President Jonathan Klein implies ratings news leader FOXNEWS is mired in coverage of "meaningless nonsense," claiming: "Fourteen Americans dead, and they have Natalee Holloway on," Klein says. "And they're supposedly America's news channel."
"It's easy and it's brainless," Klein charges in a telephone interview set for publication at the NEW YORK TIMES, explaining why cable news outlets are gravitating to the Aruba story. "They're looking for an ongoing drama" along the lines of the NBC crime show "Law & Order," he said, adding, "Except 'Law & Order' doesn't do the same plot every night."
"There are an awful lot of things you can cover if you don't have people tied up with this meaningless nonsense," Klein says.
In early July, Klein pulled CNN's correspondent out of Aruba and dropped the subject from most CNN shows in the absence of new developments.
"If Jon performed as well as he talks, he wouldn't have to explain his network's dismal ratings," says Irena Briganti, a spokeswoman for FOXNEWS. "We have trounced him on every breaking news story from the London bombings and last week's events in Gaza."
Tracer Bullet
08-24-05, 09:27 AM
Well, he does have a point. The Aruba story is pretty pointless. Although it does get the ratings, so who's really to blame?
Mopower
08-24-05, 09:34 AM
Both networks have their fair share of 'Meaningless Nonsense' but he's right. How many times do they need Greta Van Sustren to report live from Aruba?
sracer
08-24-05, 09:51 AM
watching FOXNews is like reading the NY Post. It's fun but anyone who wants to be taken seriously wouldn't admit to it. ;)
any resemblance between FoxNews and the Federal Network of Starship Troopers is purely coincidental.
VinVega
08-24-05, 09:58 AM
I watch FoxNews sometimes, but not more than the other news networks. CNN is very miffed at Fox's ratings, that's pretty obvious. They feel insulted if they have to dumb down their coverage to subjects like the Aruba deal, but are you in the business of being high brow, or are you in the business of getting ratings? Personally, I wish they would stop trying to dumb down and sound bite their coverage, but I also understand that these networks have to pay the bills too.
Pharoh
08-24-05, 09:59 AM
watching FOXNews is like reading the NY Post. It's fun but anyone who wants to be taken seriously wouldn't admit to it. ;)
any resemblance between FoxNews and the Federal Network of Starship Troopers is purely coincidental.
I agree, but I also feel the same way about CNN and MSNBC. I can't believe anybody actually uses any of them as their primary news source.
Fielding Mellish
08-24-05, 10:10 AM
Fox News isn't meaningless. It's disinformation.
I could deal with meaningless.
weargle
08-24-05, 10:19 AM
Fox News isn't meaningless. It's disinformation.
Riiiiiiight. Because YOU disagree with how they report the news and what news they report?
bhk
08-24-05, 10:23 AM
I love Fox News. How many times has Fox News had to trot out their main anchor person and apologize for putting rockets in trucks? How many reporters has Fox News fired because they were making up stories?
wendersfan
08-24-05, 10:29 AM
Who's Natalee Holloway?
bhk
08-24-05, 10:42 AM
Natali is the Alabama woman who went missing in Aruba.
Tracer Bullet
08-24-05, 10:47 AM
I love Fox News. How many times has Fox News had to trot out their main anchor person and apologize for putting rockets in trucks? How many reporters has Fox News fired because they were making up stories?
That's a lame defense, though. It's like Burger King saying their food's not as bad for you as some other fast food chain because BK doesn't put ground-up glass in their burgers, like "they" do.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like any of the news channels. I think all of them are equally as vapid and sensational.
bhk
08-24-05, 10:50 AM
That's a lame defense, though. It's like Burger King saying their food's not as bad for you as some other fast food chain because BK doesn't put ground-up glass in their burgers, like "they" do.
Poor analogy. The correct analogy is McD looking down on Burger King because McD says BK dilutes their milkshakes when McD is the one that actually does that.
Tracer Bullet
08-24-05, 10:53 AM
Poor analogy. The correct analogy is McD looking down on Burger King because McD says BK dilutes their milkshakes when McD is the one that actually does that.
That would be a good analogy for CNN to use, not Fox.
Dead
08-24-05, 11:16 AM
"They're looking for an ongoing drama" along the lines of the NBC crime show "Law & Order," he said...
Interestingly enough, this is exactly what I see CNN and the big three doing too. I've pretty much stopped watching any news at all because of it.
Thor Simpson
08-24-05, 11:27 AM
"They're looking for an ongoing drama" along the lines of the NBC crime show "Law & Order," he said...Interestingly enough, this is exactly what I see CNN and the big three doing too. I've pretty much stopped watching any news at all because of it.
You know... that's such a true statement. Brian Williams is like a narrator for a TV drama series. Why can't news just be news instead of sensationalized drama that carries to the next day? Is that really the only thing that sells these days? Maybe so.... maybe so. :(
kvrdave
08-24-05, 11:33 AM
I can see his point, but it is silly to believe that you can just cover death in Iraq and how bad Bush is and think that people will sit glued to the news. Let's face it, if you are going to have 24 hour news coverage, you are going to have some fluff stuff. CNN is just bitter that they have lost a lot of viewers.
Myster X
08-24-05, 11:58 AM
Fox News isn't meaningless. It's disinformation.
I could deal with meaningless.
It's good to say that CNN irrelavant. Bitch and moan over losing viewership is not geting you anywhere but down ratings as Ted Turner proves it in the past.
sfsdfd
08-24-05, 12:46 PM
Inaccurate thread title. The "meaningless nonsense" comment refers to to the Natalee Holloway story - and I'm hoping we can agree that that's an accurate characterization.
- David Stein
Goldblum
08-24-05, 12:59 PM
What he's really doing is insulting all the viewers who watch Fox News (which happens to hold the majority of cable news watchers). Good way to improve your ratings. :lol:
General Zod
08-24-05, 01:05 PM
Inaccurate thread title. The "meaningless nonsense" comment refers to to the Natalee Holloway story - and I'm hoping we can agree that that's an accurate characterization.
- David Stein
I guess you are correct, although he was referring to fox's coverage so I suppose it's accurate - but perhaps misleading. I just copied the headline the article was given as posted on drudge. It may also have helped if I spelled "nonsense" correctly ;)
Giantrobo
08-24-05, 01:31 PM
Hey, since FOX seems to be so obsessed with that lost white girl in Aruba I tend to agree with CNN.:lol: There's other shit going on in the world besides lost white party girls.
Nesbit
08-24-05, 01:33 PM
Jon Stewart had a good point a couple of weeks ago. The purpose of news use to be making the important items interesting while it now tries to make the interesting items important.
chess
08-24-05, 01:41 PM
Drudge misled us? No, not Drudge! Say it aint so!
Fox News: Slightly better than a lobotomy. Bunch of fucking cheerleaders.
Giantrobo
08-24-05, 01:42 PM
Drudge misled us? No, not Drudge! Say it aint so!
Fox News: Slightly better than a lobotomy. Bunch of fucking cheerleaders.
Dude, it's just a fuckin' cable station. Mellow out. :lol:
weargle
08-24-05, 01:51 PM
Why can't liberals just move on. Isn't there even an organization dedicated to them moving on?
classicman2
08-24-05, 02:28 PM
I agree, but I also feel the same way about CNN and MSNBC. I can't believe anybody actually uses any of them as their primary news source.
I only use them for my primary breaking news source.
Fox News isn't meaningless. It's disinformation.
Fox News is no more a source of disinformation than is CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, BBC, etc.
wendersfan
08-24-05, 02:41 PM
I agree, but I also feel the same way about CNN and MSNBC. I can't believe anybody actually uses any of them as their primary news source.Things would improve markedly if the average American had a primary news source at all, beyond <i>TV Guide</i> and <i>Entertainment Tonight</i>.
Mordred
08-24-05, 02:45 PM
Seems to me that FoxNews, MSNBC are the worst, followed closely by CBS, with regard to mindless sensationalism. I find CNN somewhere in the middle, bunched right along with all the others.
I honestly don't see how anyone can watch ANY of them for more than 30 minutes at a time. The endless vapidity and mind-numbing repetition just grinds away at me almost instantly. I realize it's the price we pay for 24-hour news and the scoop culture but it drives me insane. If only there were an alternative that didn't feel the need to compete with the others at their own game.
VinVega
08-24-05, 02:58 PM
If only there were an alternative that didn't feel the need to compete with the others at their own game.
There are news magazines out there in the vast wasteland. You could watch one of them if that suits you. Personally, I think most of us are pretty good at multi-tasking, so we simply jump into the 24/7 news pool, soak up what we need and jump out. I don't know too many people who would watch an entire evening lineup on FoxNEWS, MSNBC, or CNN. Many of those shows are just a different face rehashing the same story. There's also the internet for news. You can go as in depth or as quickly as your own pace warrants.
Vandelay_Inds
08-24-05, 03:37 PM
so it's either the "Abu-Ghraib-sympathy-for-the-poor-terrorists-in-Guantanamo-Bush-is-the-devil 24 hour news coverage or the meaningless, pointless, Halloway/Peterson/whatever-irrelevant-case-you-can-get-your-filthy-hands-on gossiping drivel 24 hour news coverage ?? I think I'll pass... I do love that O'Reilly dude though. He's a riot :rock:
nemein
08-24-05, 04:02 PM
There are news magazines out there in the vast wasteland.
I tried leafing through an issue of Time recently and w/ all the little snide/editorial style remarks in the articles/pic headings it's no wonder people are starting to turn against the War in Iraq -ohbfrank- I recall one had a pic of Armstrong (the biker) and Bush cycling on Bush's ranch and the caption was something about how they both loved biking and shared a passing interest in politics.
VinVega
08-24-05, 04:09 PM
I tried leafing through an issue of Time recently and w/ all the little snide/editorial style remarks in the articles/pic headings it's no wonder people are starting to turn against the War in Iraq -ohbfrank- I recall one had a pic of Armstrong (the biker) and Bush cycling on Bush's ranch and the caption was something about how they both loved biking and shared a passing interest in politics.
I meant television news magazines like 60 Minutes. Not sure of the other ones since I don't really watch any of them.
nemein
08-24-05, 04:22 PM
Doh! :o gotcha...
scottall
08-24-05, 04:22 PM
I was surprised last week when Fox News was televising the settlers being cleared out of Gaza and it was nowhere to be seen on CNN. I can't remember what they were showing on CNN, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a significant historical event.
Mordred
08-24-05, 04:29 PM
I meant television news magazines like 60 Minutes. Not sure of the other ones since I don't really watch any of them.That's true and those are almost always inoffensive to me. I was refering more to a 24 hour news network (I work somewhat odd hours I suppose) that operated somewhat like CNN did 10+ years ago. Respectability with a minimum of hype and stupidity. Maybe it's always been this bad and I never noticed though.
CRM114
08-24-05, 05:14 PM
Even O'Reilly is now doing endless Holloway/Michael Jackson/blah bits. He used to crow how he wouldn't dedicate any time to those stories. Ratings dipping, Bill? :) The PBS evening news isn't bad but I suppose that is biased in many eyes. -rolleyes-
sfsdfd
08-24-05, 05:24 PM
Ratings dipping, Bill? :)
Yeah, it's pretty sad. It seems Bill can't even retain viewers by viciously smearing Cindy Sheehan.
I think we're finally seeing vitriol burnout. I'm not sure that reverting to the usual state (overwhelming political apathy) is much better, though.
- David Stein
sfsdfd
08-24-05, 05:30 PM
I was surprised last week when Fox News was televising the settlers being cleared out of Gaza and it was nowhere to be seen on CNN. I can't remember what they were showing on CNN, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a significant historical event.
That's why I don't watch TV for the news (or anything else.)
A televised stream can only cover one story at a time. Thus, the station has to choose stories that (a) attract popular viewers - i.e., with sensationalism - and (b) are compatible with short attention spans - i.e., sound bites and video clips, no depth whatsoever. Both factors <i>hugely</i> dilute the value of televised news.
OTOH, text media can cover a vast number of stories, and I can devote attention to the ones that interest me. And websites are even better than newspapers/magazines: for a website, more content = more value; for a printed medium, more content = more printing costs.
Thus, I get <b>100%</b> of my news from online sites. By most metrics, so do most younger Americans.
- David Stein
DodgingCars
08-24-05, 05:38 PM
People still watch television news? Wow.
I watch morning "news" so I can hear about the traffic -- all other news is radio, newspaper, or online.
If I "need" to see it, I can watch a video online. I'd guess the only time I'd ever watch tv news is if there was something big happening.
nemein
08-24-05, 05:55 PM
The PBS evening news isn't bad but I suppose that is biased in many eyes.
PBS has news? Or are we just talking about the Newshour (which IMHO is more in line w/ the TV magazine thing that was mentioned above). Whenever I've heard that it is usually pretty balanced, I don't watch/listen to it that often though. NPR on the other hand is another story ;)
mikehunt
08-24-05, 06:30 PM
this from the station that made the pat robinson thing the topic of almost every show the other day?
talk about a meaningless story
CRM114
08-24-05, 07:05 PM
this from the station that made the pat robinson thing the topic of almost every show the other day?
talk about a meaningless story
Robertson is/was an influential and outspoken member of the right in America. He ran for President in the Republican party and controls votes. I'd say it was newsworthy. As much as covering stupid stuff Jesse Jackson says.
X
08-24-05, 07:06 PM
If CNN is only doing hard news why is it that Bob Costas had to decline to do a CNN show last week on Natalee Holloway (someone else filled in for him) and Larry King's doing Natalee Holloway tonight?
CRM114
08-24-05, 07:11 PM
If CNN is only doing hard news why is it that Bob Costas declined to do a CNN show last week on Natalee Holloway (someone else filled in for him) and Larry King's doing Natalee Holloway tonight?
I, for one, never said CNN does hard news. All the news channels are equally poor. MSNBC just filled their 9:00 slot with Rita Cosby. -rolleyes- They dropped pretty much the only "news/politics" program Hardball from the 11:00 slot. MSNBC has the Keith Olberman and Tucker Carlson shows, which are pretty much the same show - putting a humorous spin on the news. Lame. The only show I watched was Hardball on any of the cable news channels and now thats only on at 7:00.
classicman2
08-24-05, 07:44 PM
I watch Hardball much less than I did previously.
I think it's declined measurably in content in the past few months.
Tracer Bullet
08-24-05, 08:08 PM
If CNN is only doing hard news why is it that Bob Costas had to decline to do a CNN show last week on Natalee Holloway (someone else filled in for him) and Larry King's doing Natalee Holloway tonight?
Interesting article on that very topic in today's NY Times:
Robertson is/was an influential and outspoken member of the right in America. He ran for President in the Republican party and controls votes. I'd say it was newsworthy. As much as covering stupid stuff Jesse Jackson says.
he's not that influential. and his run for president was 17 years ago
make it the focus of one or two shows maybe, but from what I heard, I admit I didn't see it myself, it was pretty much all day non stop
X
08-24-05, 08:17 PM
I watch Hardball much less than I did previously.
I think it's declined measurably in content in the past few months.Same here since it became Softball to his political buddies and Slimeball to Michelle Malkin and anything having to do with the Swift Boat Vets.
Poor Scarborough, having to compete with Van Susteren and having Washington empty for the last month, has become all-Natalee, all-disappeared bridegroom all the time. His show has become a travesty.
CRM114
08-24-05, 09:43 PM
Same here since it became Softball to his political buddies and Slimeball to Michelle Malkin and anything having to do with the Swift Boat Vets.
As for Malkin and the Swift Boat Shills, Matthews made the right call. Both talk well from their asses. The SBS's made accusations that the people on Kerry's own boat refuted (not to mention the decorations themselves). And wasn't it Malkin who felt that rounding up the Japanese-Americans in WW2 was reasonable reaction?
Pharoh
08-24-05, 09:48 PM
Same here since it became Softball to his political buddies and Slimeball to Michelle Malkin and anything having to do with the Swift Boat Vets.
Poor Scarborough, having to compete with Van Susteren and having Washington empty for the last month, has become all-Natalee, all-disappeared bridegroom all the time. His show has become a travesty.
It's why he should run for the damn Senate seat.
X
08-24-05, 10:23 PM
It's why he should run for the damn Senate seat.You think he's a better candidate? And better to have in the Senate?
DVD Polizei
08-24-05, 10:48 PM
Fox News gets better ratings because they have an easy explanation for everything, catering to idiots who don't research events and why they happen, and it usually has to do with the Democratic Party being responsible in some way or another. Mix it in with short skirts and pretty ladies, and hey, you got a fair and balanced news station.
If there could be a Redneck News Network, Fox would be it.
I got tired of Fox News a few years ago and don't watch them anymore. Come to think of it, I don't watch CNN that much. But if I had a choice, I'd pick CNN. Fox News always has some underlying party bashing going on in almost every story they run.
wmansir
08-24-05, 11:18 PM
Obviously Mr. Klein hasn't been watching much of his own network. While Greta goes on and on about Aruba, every day Lou Dobbs spends the majority of his program talking about boarder control/immigration and "The Outsourcing of America". Greta will move on if the god damn public ever does (like they should have 2 months ago), but until then she will just keep milking the ratings. I don't think Lou has that excuse.
Also, I swear I just read a story last week where Bob Costas (?) refused to sub for the Larry King show because it was going to focus on the Aruba story.
Tracer Bullet
08-25-05, 09:38 AM
Anyone see The Daily Show last night? The opening segment examined this issue. Jon Stewart applauded Klein's statements, then showed a montage of the "hard-hitting news" CNN was reporting this week: monkeys invading the Indian parliament, a Larry King interview with Pamela Anderson, dream analysis, and on, and on.
Giantrobo
08-25-05, 10:11 AM
Fox News gets better ratings because they have an easy explanation for everything, catering to idiots who don't research events and why they happen, and it usually has to do with the Democratic Party being responsible in some way or another. Mix it in with short skirts and pretty ladies, and hey, you got a fair and balanced news station.
If there could be a Redneck News Network, Fox would be it.
I got tired of Fox News a few years ago and don't watch them anymore. Come to think of it, I don't watch CNN that much. But if I had a choice, I'd pick CNN. Fox News always has some underlying party bashing going on in almost every story they run.
:lol: Oooh brother...
Goldblum
08-25-05, 10:42 AM
Robertson is/was an influential and outspoken member of the right in America. He ran for President in the Republican party and controls votes. I'd say it was newsworthy. As much as covering stupid stuff Jesse Jackson says.
But the stupid things Jesse Jackson says are rarely covered in depth.
bhk
08-25-05, 12:34 PM
But the stupid things Jesse Jackson says are rarely covered in depth.
It'd be hard for any news network to follow him around 24/7.
wendersfan
08-25-05, 12:56 PM
It'd be hard for any news network to follow him around 24/7.Maybe he should have his own reality show. Or better yet, put hi, Roberston, and all those other crazy religious wackos who use their religious titles to further political agendas, into one of those shows like <i>Big Brother</i> or <i>The Real World</i>. :)
Pharoh
08-25-05, 01:24 PM
You think he's a better candidate? And better to have in the Senate?
Better than the unelectable alternative.
BigDaddy
08-26-05, 05:58 PM
Headline on CNN.com right now
Brothers arrested again in Aruba case
I guess it is news now.
uberjoe
08-26-05, 06:06 PM
Headline on CNN.com right now
Brothers arrested again in Aruba case
I guess it is news now.
Well, that's a new development. Not: "Day 43 -- same as Day 42." That being said, I couldn't care less about the story at this point. About half of all online news sites headlines are worthless crap. And CNN is especially bad at it, I think.
mikehunt
08-26-05, 06:56 PM
:lol:
anyone see the dailyshow response to this?
foxnews (the humor bit at the end of Special Report) just showed it
DVD Polizei
08-26-05, 07:25 PM
:lol: Oooh brother...
Whahhhh. You callin' me a TERRIST now and gonna spray paint mah home? rotfl
Tracer Bullet
08-26-05, 07:32 PM
:lol:
anyone see the dailyshow response to this?
foxnews (the humor bit at the end of Special Report) just showed it
NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - Fox News scored its largest audience so far this year in August, a month when most of the other cable news channels suffered ratings declines in comparison with convention-heavy 2004.
According to data released Tuesday by Nielsen Media Research, Fox News tallied slightly more than 2 million total viewers in primetime during the month, a 32% improvement over its year-ago figures.
By contrast, CNN lost 19% of its primetime viewership (to 748,000), and MSNBC dropped 22% to 349,000 in August compared with a year ago. CNN's Headline News, on the strength of "Nancy Grace" and other primetime programming, jumped 117% to 449,000 viewers, making it the third-ranked news channel in primetime, overtaking MSNBC.
In the news demographic of adults 25-54, Fox News ruled again, with 541,000 viewers, up 12%, while CNN lost 9% to 236,000 and MSNBC was mostly flat at 145,000. Headline News averaged 160,000, up 111%.
Fox News owned 11 of the top 12 shows in cable news, with 2.5 million viewers for No. 1 "The O'Reilly Factor" (up 13%) and 2.2 million viewers for "On the Record With Greta Van Susteren." Greta Van Susteren's show, which has seen a major boost in the ratings with its coverage of the Natalee Holloway story in Aruba, saw a 36% boost in viewership.
CNN's sole entry in the top 10, "Larry King Live," saw viewership fall 27% to 1 million. "The Situation Room," which debuted this month, averaged 466,000 viewers, down 14% compared to the political-heavy coverage on CNN last year. On the other hand, "Nancy Grace" gave Headline News its highest month ever, with 738,000 viewers in August. That was just behind "NewsNight With Aaron Brown" and "Paula Zahn Now"; "Paula Zahn Now" saw its total viewership rise 6% to 596,000, though its demo coverage was flat.
Fox News also won the ratings war in hurricane coverage Monday, according to Nielsen data released Tuesday afternoon. Fox News averaged 2.8 million viewers in total day -- a 247% increase over the same day in 2004 -- ahead of CNN's 1.8 million viewers and MSNBC's 679,000.
Asked for a response, CNN said "Fox News is run by a bunch of poopypants."
sfsdfd
08-31-05, 01:05 PM
Greta Van Susteren's show, which has seen a major boost in the ratings with its coverage of the Natalee Holloway story in Aruba, saw a 36% boost in viewership.
Ah - I see the problem. They're incorrectly classifying this as "news." It would be more accurate to compare it with programs of similar content - Joe Millionaire, The Bachelor, Survivor, etc.
- David Stein
Goldblum
08-31-05, 02:07 PM
Ah - I see the problem. They're incorrectly classifying this as "news." It would be more accurate to compare it with programs of similar content - Joe Millionaire, The Bachelor, Survivor, etc.
- David Stein
No...it's news. It's just not national news.
mikehunt
08-31-05, 03:08 PM
Mikehunt has me on ignore. :(
no, I just have a (bad?) habit of skimming through posts in some threads
and in the case of this one I don't think I had read it in a while and might have even posted my comment from the first page
Asked for a response, CNN said "Fox News is run by a bunch of poopypants."
Millions of people watch "American Idol." That doesn't mean it isn't a worthless piece of shit.
Keep it all in perspective. Popularity is a poor indicator of quality.
dick_grayson
08-31-05, 03:40 PM
Millions of people watch "American Idol." That doesn't mean it isn't a worthless piece of shit.
Keep it all in perspective. Popularity is a poor indicator of quality.
I was going to say something similar with regards to Arrested Development (which doesn't have many viewers but is a great show), but then I realized that CNN et al. don't deserve that comparison either. I agree with your post, though.
nevermind
08-31-05, 04:39 PM
Well it's probably been a long time coming but I think I can safely say I have watched and listened to my last bit of Fox News.
I was listening to Fox News on XM on the way home. Let's just say I'm normally not a violent person, but I hope ol' Shep is mistaken for a cop by an armed looter.
I thought I couldn't stand that asshole before - yikes.
Draven
08-31-05, 04:55 PM
I've been flipping between Fox and CNN on my XM (whenever one goes to a commercial) - what did he say?
X
08-31-05, 04:58 PM
Yeah, I haven't been able to stand Smith since his 2000 election incident. It's hard to imagine his being any more of a jerk.
nevermind
08-31-05, 05:10 PM
Well I am going to paraphrase here, but if I were watching during this shit I bet I would have seen Shep's fully engorged hard-on through his sensible slacks. I understand all news media seems to do this 'doom and gloom' stuff but this fucking prick is so over the top.
From what I gathered, listening right at about 2pm CDT, when his show started, he was camped out by the edge of the projects talking to the people as they were making their way out. Questions to every person finally making it out of there:
"Are you ok? What have you been doing for 2 days? Do you need anything? Where are you going? What are you going to do now? What do you need?"
Here's my reply if I was just making it out of a flooded neighborhood after 2 days, losing everything I own and possibly family members, and this smug motherfucker was standing there with a camera & microphone asking me these questions:
I would have punched him in the face and bit him on his big forehead. Then I would take whatever food & water he had.
OK I'm done ranting now.
slateef
08-31-05, 05:14 PM
:clap:
nevermind
08-31-05, 05:19 PM
BTW, if there are any FoxNews haters out there that tape it for some reason, email me the file. I think if I watch it I'll be even more pissed off than I am now (hard to believe), and you will have finally claimed a convert (you can even take credit for it :D).
A convert to what, I'm not sure - since they all pretty much suck.
nevermind
08-31-05, 07:27 PM
A convert to what, I'm not sure - since they all pretty much suck.
A case in point. Chris Matthews on Hardball about two minutes ago with the Governor of Texas:
Matthews: "Small point, I don't mean to be whimsical, but at this time it wouldn't hurt for a little whimsy... but how do you get the Astros out of their, uh, ballpark?"
Governor "Well um, you know they're playing at, uh, a place called Minute Maid now, not the Astrodome."
Matthews: "Oh really?"
Governor: "Welcome to this year in baseball, Chris"
-ohbfrank-
This year, governor? Why cut him ANY slack? How about this millenium? Chris Matthews, you dolt. You've been added to my list.
mikehunt
08-31-05, 08:50 PM
Brit Hume had shep on live
he's standing on some on ramp watching people come up out of the water. He's in perfectly clean clothes, clean shaven, looked showered. and these people have nothing
I couldn't help but shake my head at him
probably takes a news chopper 100 miles away each night to a hotel with running water and electricity
nevermind
08-31-05, 09:03 PM
Brit Hume had shep on live
he's standing on some on ramp watching people come up out of the water. He's in perfectly clean clothes, clean shaven, looked showered. and these people have nothing
I couldn't help but shake my head at him
probably takes a news chopper 100 miles away each night to a hotel with running water and electricity
:mad:
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Brit Hume had shep on live
he's standing on some on ramp watching people come up out of the water. He's in perfectly clean clothes, clean shaven, looked showered. and these people have nothing
I couldn't help but shake my head at him
probably takes a news chopper 100 miles away each night to a hotel with running water and electricity
Well, I understand what you're saying, but do you want him to mess his hair up and roll around in the mud, grab the closest poor soul who lost his home and everything in it, begin to cry, and then claim to feel everyone's pain and anguish?
nevermind
08-31-05, 10:20 PM
and then claim to feel everyone's pain and anguish?
Oh, he's doing that, all right. It's just fake as hell.
mikehunt
08-31-05, 10:31 PM
Well, I understand what you're saying, but do you want him to mess his hair up and roll around in the mud, grab the closest poor soul who lost his home and everything in it, begin to cry, and then claim to feel everyone's pain and anguish?
that's the worst part. he does all that, while being in a clean pressed shirt, clean shaven, nicely showered etc.
"I just want to cradle his head, gently, and sink my teeth into his face"
dpganz
09-05-05, 04:34 AM
I watch FoxNews sometimes, but not more than the other news networks. CNN is very miffed at Fox's ratings, that's pretty obvious. They feel insulted if they have to dumb down their coverage to subjects like the Aruba deal, but are you in the business of being high brow, or are you in the business of getting ratings? Personally, I wish they would stop trying to dumb down and sound bite their coverage, but I also understand that these networks have to pay the bills too.
News shouldn't really be about either, it should be about reporting the news. (not that I'm saying either of those don't describe the current situation)
DJLinus
09-05-05, 10:12 AM
Things would improve markedly if the average American had a primary news source at all, beyond <i>TV Guide</i> and <i>Entertainment Tonight</i>.
Luckily for me I'm an Entertainment Weekly subscriber.
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