If Bush was a member of this forum

[Binger]

...would that mean that all the bashers would have to stop thier onslaught because the mods would not allow personal attacks?

[BigDaddy]

:lol:

[chess]

Depends on how you frame "personal attacks". AFAIK, nobody is investigating his private life etc...they just have legitimate misgivings about his decisions and his decision making process.

onslaught. -ohbfrank-

[waveform]

...he would start out posting using one syllable words until Rove or Cheney showed him how to use smilies...then his response to everything would become...'LOOK. I'VE MADE THE BANANAS DANCE."

[Binger]

...he would start out posting using one syllable words until Rove or Cheney showed him how to use smilies...then his response to everything would become...'LOOK. I'VE MADE THE BANANAS DANCE."


That, my friend, is a personal attack. -wink-

[General Zod]

I don't think Bush has the time to browse the internets. Most bashing on him is from his policies and decisions. I don't see many people making real "personal" attacks. The only time I usually see "Bush is dumb" type stuff is usually from people that have no idea what they are talking about, not knowing how else to respond to something.

[chess]

Yeah, but he takes vacations...

a lot.

[Thor Simpson]

Bush is a lurker here. Chess makes him sad. I can't reveal my source.

[Binger]

I don't think Bush has the time to browse the internets. Most bashing on him is from his policies and decisions. I don't see many people making real "personal" attacks. The only time I usually see "Bush is dumb" type stuff is usually from people that have no idea what they are talking about, not knowing how else to respond.

I was, more or less, making a joke because in another thread someone was sent to the corner for pointing out that an article posted by someone known to lean left was par for the coarse. So if that is a personal attack than it appears that anything negative that is said, in general, would be construed as a personal attack these days.

[Mopower]

He would probably wonder why some people have time and energy to bitch about him all day on the internets when they could use their time for better purposes. Like working on their Howard Dean collage or keeping Air America on the air.

[tcoursen]

If Bush was a member here ...

The post totals at DU would go way down as they would all flock here so they could go tell Bush to go f' off.

[Thor Simpson]

He would probably wonder why some people have time and energy to bitch about him all day on the internets when they could use their time for better purposes. Like working on their Howard Dean collage or keeping Air America on the air.
Please... Air America isn't a worthy cause, but DON'T go rippin' on my Howard Dean collage. :mad:

[General Zod]

Please... Air America isn't a worthy cause, but DON'T go rippin' on my Howard Dean collage. :mad:
:lol:

[Duran]

If Bush were a member here, all of us would have to go through a careful screening process to be sure we all support him 100%. Bush doesn't make appearances where there are dissenting opinions or tough questions.

[nemein]

On a related topic, if you (the generic "you") became an elected official/President would you continue posting at DVDtalk?

I suspect time committments would keep me away but it would be fun to occasionally drop by and play the king in beggars clothes (so to speak ;)).

[sfsdfd]

...would that mean that all the bashers would have to stop thier onslaught because the mods would not allow personal attacks?
Yeah. For example, no one would be able to post a photo of Bush accompanied by a dog, in the context of an article about police dogs trained to sniff out rapists. Besides being in very poor taste, that would not be allowed.

Fortunately, we haven't seen any pics about that featuring George Bush. In fact, I've seen very little much personal belittlement of Bush in this forum in the last several years. Personal belittlement of Democrats, on the other hand, seems widespread and heartily enjoyed. Much like bashing the French, it seems that grade-school humor about liberals just never gets old for some people. :shrug:

- David Stein

[Mopower]

Personal belittlement of Democrats, on the other hand, seems widespread and heartily enjoyed. Much like bashing the French, it seems that grade-school humor about liberals just never gets old for some people. :shrug:

- David Stein

CoughbullshitCough!

Are you blind to the same 3 or 4 people that make grade school humor about Bush at every turn?

You are right about the liberal bashing to an extent. It's getting so out of hand I'm surprised the ACLU hasn't been called in yet.

[Myster X]

Fortunately, we haven't seen any pics about that featuring George Bush. In fact, I've seen very little much personal belittlement of Bush in this forum in the last several years. Personal belittlement of Democrats, on the other hand, seems widespread and heartily enjoyed. Much like bashing the French, it seems that grade-school humor about liberals just never gets old for some people. :shrug:

- David Stein


Howard Dean? Barbara Boxer? Maxine Waters? Barbara Lee?

[wendersfan]

If the president were a member here, wouldn't he mostly post in <b>Sports Talk</b>? I mean, seriously, he can talk politics with his staff. If I were president I know the last thing I'd want to do is argue politics with a bunch of dumbasses and know-it-alls on the internet. ;)

[dick_grayson]

If the president were a member here, wouldn't he mostly post in <b>Sports Talk</b>? I mean, seriously, he can talk politics with his staff. If I were president I know the last thing I'd want to do is argue politics with a bunch of dumbasses and know-it-alls on the internet. ;)


I agree. Sports talk or book talk. :D

[classicman2]

If I were president I know the last thing I'd want to do is argue politics with a bunch of dumbasses and know-it-alls on the internet.

Aren't you being a little critical of our libertarian members? :)

[sfsdfd]

Are you blind to the same 3 or 4 people that make grade school humor about Bush at every turn?
I've seen Bush repeatedly called an idiot and a liar. These comments relate to his competence as a leader.

I haven't seen any recent comments implying that Bush is a rapist, that an exchange of his daughter and wife for two pigs would be a "good deal," ridiculing bad photos of him, etc. These comments are qualitatively different levels of juvenile humor and malice as compared with the Bush comments. There's a level of deep, personal loathing that some seem to bear for political opponents that borders on scary.

- David Stein

[Canadian Bacon]

Bush would never use something Al Gore invented ;)

[kvrdave]

We could make fun of him as a community member, if he didn't mind. We certainly give me my fair share of crap. :lol: My guess is that Clinton would be a fun one to have on the board. He seems like he would be fun, witty, etc.

Although I doubt he takes all this nearly as seriously as you guys. -wink-

[Thor Simpson]

The cries of "Bush being an idiot" that we've seen go well beyond the political spectrum. And I couldn't care less.

[sfsdfd]

The cries of "Bush being an idiot" that we've seen go well beyond the political spectrum. And I couldn't care less.
It doesn't bother me, either. Those comments reflect a lot more about the poster than the subject of ridicule. I just find the notion that Bush is under some kind of vast personal attack to be pretty ridiculous, since mocking of liberals seems predominant by a factor of three (both in severity and in childishness.)

- David Stein

[kvrdave]

Oh, don't get me started on the stupid liberal buttfaces. -ohbfrank-



rotfl


sometimes, I'm just a bitch. -wink-

[Canadian Bacon]

also it's were not was, damn people using poor grammar -ohbfrank-



-wink-

[Thor Simpson]

I just find the notion that Bush is under some kind of vast personal attack to be pretty ridiculous, since mocking of liberals seems predominant by a factor of three
While I would disagree that Bush is not under some kind of vast personal attack, I would agree that liberals are also the subject of such things.

I think it's more that the thought of Bush seems to make some people's blood boil and their veins come out of their faces until they relieve themselves of their needed response, whereas criticism of some liberals tends to be more mocking and less deeply rooted.

That's why we see a lot of responses to Michael Moore threads with fat jokes. Bush, however, seems to be evil incarnate from many responses. And that's almost ironic.

I'd imagine the hostility would shift a bit if the Democrats were in power. The left feels burdened, abandoned, and in utter shock and awe at the acceptance of the current administration... because it doesn't share many of their views. And Bush is at the center of that... undoubtedly being the ultimate "conservative" on many issues... though less so than many people would take the time to realize.

[Binger]

also it's were not was, damn people using poor grammar -ohbfrank-



-wink-


Hey, I got your poor grammar right here pal. -wink-

[sfsdfd]

While I would disagree that Bush is not under some kind of vast personal attack...
At Berkeley, probably. Do you believe that's true in this forum?
I think it's more that the thought of Bush seems to make some people's blood boil and their veins come out of their faces until they relieve themselves of their needed response, whereas criticism of some liberals tends to be more mocking and less deeply rooted.
Yeah, but that also underscores the key difference: lefties get angry at Bush because he's a bad leader, whereas righties get angry at Hillary because she's ugly. That's the difference between valid criticism and a "personal attack."
I'd imagine the hostility would shift a bit if the Democrats were in power.
Undoubtedly. Both parties are made up of people, and at a macroscopic level people are pretty homogeneous and predictable; so I don't believe that supporters of either party are more honest, genuine, law-abiding, patriotic, or selfless than the other.

But at this moment, we have a political skew that leads supporters of the majority to feel free to ridicule members of the minority party with impunity. The balance could well tip back (over a decade), but right now, that's where it stands. So it's pretty amusing to see those majority supporters complain of ridicule - it evidences a lack of objectivity about the "skew."

- David Stein

[nemein]

Yeah, but that also underscores the key difference: lefties get angry at Bush because he's a bad leader, whereas righties get angry at Hillary because she's ugly. That's the difference between valid criticism and a "personal attack."

And the Bush/chimp threads/comments are what :hscratch: Both sides are guilty of a range of attacks on the other side. I don't think anyone can fairly say only lefties are guilty of "this" and only righties are guilty of "that".

[DVD Polizei]

Bush and his administration are intelligent, capable people, who can bring this country to greatness. They know more about this country and world affairs than any of you people on this forum. Rumsfield has proven himself as the foreign affairs brain, Cheney is always in the know of what the President is doing and thinking, and well, the President himself is a man who thinks things through, and gets results. All they ask is that we stay the course and trust their wisdom.

[Mopower]

Bush and his administration are intelligent, capable people, who can bring this country to greatness. They know more about this country and world affairs than any of you people on this forum. Rumsfield has proven himself as the foreign affairs brain, Cheney is always in the know of what the President is doing and thinking, and well, the President himself is a man who thinks things through, and gets results. All they ask is that we stay the course and trust their wisdom.


drumroll.....


http://www.artemundo.com.br/deh/blog/imgs/estat_oscar.jpg

Congrats!

[sfsdfd]

And the Bush/chimp threads/comments are what :hscratch:
When's the last time we had one of those? 2001, maybe?
Both sides are guilty of a range of attacks on the other side. I don't think anyone can fairly say only lefties are guilty of "this" and only righties are guilty of "that".
Again, at the macroscopic level and over time, I agree. But -

1) The current political skew has produced different cultural responses in each group (for the moment), and

2) We're not talking about the macro scale; we're talking about this forum - and I perceive a distinctive skew in the banter of this forum, particularly in the amount of respect each side shows for political opponents.

- David Stein

[Mopower]

When's the last time we had one of those? 2001, maybe?

Again, at the macroscopic level and over time, I agree. But -



Ya "Shrub" is much more mature.

[sfsdfd]

Ya "Shrub" is much more mature.
You're equating a pretty straightforward and harmless nickname with <i>calling someone a rapist?</i> Jesus.

There is no malice in "shrub." It's an amusing way to reference the fact that he's the son of a "bush." Contrast this with the comments about Hillary or Michael Moore that practically stink of deep-seated animosity. Your attempts to equate these things aren't exactly raising your credibility, <b>Mopower</b>.

- David Stein

[Mopower]

You're comparing a pretty straightforward and harmless nickname with <i>calling someone a rapist?</i> Jesus.

- David Stein

Oh come on David. Rapist is just a fun nickname. Shrub is some fucking serious shit.

[waveform]

Actually, son of a bush has a much better ring to it.

[Ranger]

If Bush was a moderator with banning power, none of us would be here except one or two members who still haven't criticized Bush on a single thing. :)

[DVD Polizei]

I will bet money Rumsfeld has a username on this forum.