Do you think we will be in WW3 very soon?

[tygloalex]

With all the bad stuff in China and Russia going on and Iran and everything. I think I'm really scared. Do you think we'll be in a nuclear war soon? I keep reading all the AP news articles over and over and over and I'm afraid. Tell me what you think.

[Minor Threat]

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[The Bus]

Stop thinking about it. There will be no nuclear war. If you keep reading articles about nuclear war, that's all you will be able to think about.

[Mopower]

No. If we didnt kill eachother during the cold war I doubt it will happen anytime soon.

No one is getting in a nuclear war over North Korea or Iran. No way they will attack anyone with nukes. Not unless they want everyone in Tehran to die in a split second. If Al Queda attacks us with a nuke who are we going to attack with nukes? China won't attack us unless they want their economy to fall thru the toilet. And Russia? Well most of Russia's nukes are rusting away in their silos.

There are bigger things to worry about like what you are going to Tivo next week.

[PrincessT]

I'm sure there will continue to be wars of some sort, but I really think we won't be involved.

Still, we should convert to an alternative fuel source ASAP.

[nazz]

I do feel a sense that we will see a nuclear device used in our lifetime and possibly not in the too distant future. I'm mostly concerned with it being in the form of terrorist attack as opposed to a country though. They could fairly easily purchase these materials through the Russian situation and certainly would have no hesitation to use them in contrast to a country that may fear the retaliation. There is no real target for a counterattack against cells spread out over the planet. I feel that a nuclear detonation in an American city or cities is horrifyingly imminent.

This doesn't mean that I'm not concerned about what you describe and I think our military invasion of Iran is a real possibilty. This may be stepped up due to their nuclear ambitions and its fitting into Bush's long term goals.
We'll most likely buy time with North Korea through concessions and Russia seems more of a threat through their incompetence than aggressive tendencies.

[Breakfast with Girls]

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[nemein]

With all the bad stuff in China and Russia going on and Iran and ...

people posting in the wrong forums -ptth-

[nemein]

Nuclear war? Not likely. Will there be some nuclear/"dirty" attacks/bombs? I'm not to the point where I'll say it's inevitable but I think it's more likely than not at this point. That's not to say it'll necessarily be in the US though.

[Thor Simpson]

The Nucular War has already started. Haven't you read democratic underground lately? We're all doomed and it's because of our President. The world hates us. We will be swallowed up by our own crusade. We have chosen the path of destruction instead of peace, and it will turn to us soon. We can't even handle a little country like Iraq, we obviously would fall in a few days to the global effort against us that is coming if John Roberts is nominated to the supreme court. First Bush stole the election, now he is after your children and your women. World War 3 is well underway, my friend... we have sold weapons to all of these countries and now the weapons will be used against us.

[Mopower]

The Nucular War has already started. Haven't you read democratic underground lately? We're all doomed and it's because of our President. The world hates us. We will be swallowed up by our own crusade. We have chosen the path of destruction instead of peace, and it will turn to us soon. We can't even handle a little country like Iraq, we obviously would fall in a few days to the global effort against us that is coming if John Roberts is nominated to the supreme court. First Bush stole the election, now he is after your children and your women. World War 3 is well underway, my friend... we have sold weapons to all of these countries and now the weapons will be used against us.


Now that this is in the political forum we'll get all the anti-Bush vultures that hang out here saying the same thing. Way to get the jump on em!

[Binger]

Nuclear war? Not likely. Will there be some nuclear/"dirty" attacks/bombs? I'm not to the point where I'll say it's inevitable but I think it's more likely than not at this point. That's not to say it'll necessarily be in the US though.

I agree. It's more than likely we will see some device along these lines used in our lifetime, probably in a terrorist attack, but I highly doubt that it will be global and probably not in the US. Terrorists, if they are able to get thier hands on these weapons, will want to use them and to smuggle them into the US would risk the possibility of them getting caught before they can.

[tygloalex]

Sorry for putting this in the wrong forum.

[nazz]

Terrorists, if they are able to get thier hands on these weapons, will want to use them and to smuggle them into the US would risk the possibility of them getting caught before they can.

I think you may be way too confident in the security of our borders.

[natevines]

The Nucular War has already started. Haven't you read democratic underground lately? We're all doomed and it's because of our President. The world hates us. We will be swallowed up by our own crusade. We have chosen the path of destruction instead of peace, and it will turn to us soon. We can't even handle a little country like Iraq, we obviously would fall in a few days to the global effort against us that is coming if John Roberts is nominated to the supreme court. First Bush stole the election, now he is after your children and your women. World War 3 is well underway, my friend... we have sold weapons to all of these countries and now the weapons will be used against us.

:lol:

[E70f]

No one is getting in a nuclear war over North Korea or Iran. No way they will attack anyone with nukes.

Saddam was going to. Remember the Mushroom cloud over Manhattan (tm). I don't see why North Korea or Iran wouldn't do similar. The intelligence is a slam dunk.

[Binger]

I think you may be way too confident in the security of our borders.


Absolutely not, as a matter of fact I think it is very weak. What I am saying is that to transport this type of device to the US and then inside our borders is more risky than moving it through Europe where they most likely will obtain said device. As I said they want to use these devices and will likely want to minimize their chances of being caught before they can. Therefore, I think that if it happens it will happen somewhere that will produce the most results, in their fucked up minds, with the least risk of not achieving their goals.

[wendersfan]

With all the bad stuff in China and Russia going on and Iran and everything. I think I'm really scared. Do you think we'll be in a nuclear war soon? I keep reading all the AP news articles over and over and over and I'm afraid. Tell me what you think.Is this, like, part of a class project or something? 'Cause, like, it's totally uncool to have strangers you your, um, homework and stuff.

[classicman2]

At 0327 EDT on September 1, 2005, World War III will commence.

As yet, the participants are undecided.

[DodgingCars]

I think the next major war will not be between nation-states. I think the next major war will be a cultural war between the east and the west. I think that it won't be fought like wars in the past, either.

[Mopower]

I think the next major war will not be between nation-states. I think the next major war will be a cultural war between the east and the west. I think that it won't be fought like wars in the past, either.


So in other words, WWIII has already begun.

[E70f]

Will it be fought by telekinesis?

[PopcornTreeCt]

I think we are giving terrorists a little too much credit. If they had any brain power at all they'd realize what they're doing was wrong.

[wendersfan]

I think we are giving terrorists a little too much credit. If they had any brain power at all they'd realize what they're doing was wrong.
Not to derail this illuminating thread or anything, but by 'wrong', do you mean morally wrong, or incorrect tactically?

[Thor Simpson]

At 0327 EDT on September 1, 2005, World War III will commence.

As yet, the participants are undecided.
Are countries holding out on more sponsors to know what the final prize value will be?

[DodgingCars]

So in other words, WWIII has already begun.

In a sense, yes. However, I think we can't properly call it a world war until it escalates much further.

[SuprVgeta]

The Nucular War has already started. Haven't you read democratic underground lately? We're all doomed and it's because of our President. The world hates us. We will be swallowed up by our own crusade. We have chosen the path of destruction instead of peace, and it will turn to us soon. We can't even handle a little country like Iraq, we obviously would fall in a few days to the global effort against us that is coming if John Roberts is nominated to the supreme court. First Bush stole the election, now he is after your children and your women. World War 3 is well underway, my friend... we have sold weapons to all of these countries and now the weapons will be used against us.
rotfl

[MartinBlank]

I'm gonna go ahead and say that we're already in WWIII. Look at what happened 60 years ago....this is gonna sound weird, but with the dropping of fat man and little boy, all the "intelligent" psycho rulers, learned that it was not a good idea to mess with the USA. Dollar to a doughnut says that from now until the end of time, the only people that are gonna threaten us with warfare and those of the fringe complete nut-burger militant groups, like what we're dealin with presently. No one single country has the ability to step to us and (1) completely destroy us and (2) have the capablity of NOT being destroyed by us. And it may sound messed up, but the minute one country is armed will enough to completely destroy the USA, never mind WW4 or 5, without the US, I see the complete and total implosion of the free world. Like it or not, we are the world's police (unfortuantley), and we're the only one's that can keep the complete psychos in check.

[sfsdfd]

Dollar to a doughnut says that from now until the end of time, the only people that are gonna threaten us with warfare and those of the fringe complete nut-burger militant groups, like what we're dealin with presently.
If we continue our current level of defense spending, America will be bankrupt well before "the end of time." Given the amount of industry we've lost to overseas competitors, and the growing trade and energy deficits, it's starting to look like our #1 industry is our military power. And as you may have noticed, that tends to be a low-yield investment.

At some point, the federal income tax yield will be so weighted down with interest on the debt that we simply won't be able to borrow any more. At that point, we will have to cut our military spending back to a break-even point - which doesn't bail us out of debt, but merely stops the boat from taking on more water. And our economic weakness will continue until we make the long, painful crawl out of an awesomely huge debt.

This is America's painful future. It's just too bad more people don't realize it.

- David Stein

[Vandelay_Inds]

this is mi prediction:

United States
Eastern Europe
Japan
Korea
Russia
India
all of southeast asia and the pacific (minus Indonesia and possibly Myanmar)
Israel
Sub-Saharan Africa

Vs.

Western Europe (including the UK)
the Muslims (from Morocco to Pakistan)
Canada, México, Latin America
Indonesia
North Korea
China

[Thor Simpson]

this is mi prediction:

United States
Eastern Europe
Japan
Korea
Russia
India
all of southeast asia and the pacific, minus Indonesia and possibly Myanmar
Israel
Sub-Saharan Africa

Vs.

Western Europe (including the UK)
the Muslims (from Morocco to Pakistan)
Canada, México, Latin America
Indonesia
North Korea
China
So what odds are you giving?

[DVD Polizei]

The UK and Canada in with the Muslim nations. I don't thinky so.

[Vandelay_Inds]

The UK and Canada in with the Muslim nations. I don't thinky so.

when polled on their views of the US and the American people, both UK and Canadian citizens display negative and hostile attitudes on par with those exhibited by the French or the German. So even though so far all UK prime ministers have followed Churchill's dictum of "never distance Britain from the Americans", democratic pressure and rampant Left-wing ideology will sooner or later turn those countries over to the anti-American camp.

[Pharoh]

rotfl

[Vandelay_Inds]

So what odds are you giving?

the good guys win :fc:

[Thor Simpson]

democratic pressure and rampant Left-wing ideology will sooner or later turn those countries over to the anti-American camp.
The only thing that will turn Britain against us militarily is one of these:
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[Aldarion]

when polled on their views of the US and the American people, both UK and Canadian citizens display negative and hostile attitudes on par with those exhibited by the French or the German. So even though so far all UK prime ministers have followed Churchill's dictum of "never distance Britain from the Americans", democratic pressure and rampant Left-wing ideology will sooner or later turn those countries over to the anti-American camp.

I don't think you have an accurate view on British and Canadian attitudes and politics. I'm not sure where you got that polling information from either. I've only seen polls that show that Canadians and Brits don't like Bush, but have favourable attitudes towards the American people. Personally, I have a negative attitude to the American handling of the softwood dispute, but that certainly doesn't extend to Americans in general.

I also highly doubt that Germany and France would oppose the US in a war. They're annoyed by US foreign policy, but that isn't exactly enough to push someone to become a military enemy. The only way some of the countries you listed would oppose the US is if the US went rogue and decided to bomb France or something.

[nemein]

this is mi prediction:

I think it all depends upon what sparks it off. Personally I'm beginning to think WW3 is not going to be a clash of countries but a clash of cultures. So essentially it's going to be a huge civil war w/ no clear frontlines or boundaries. There will be certain countries that are on specific "sides" but the trench warfare of WW1 and the tank/naval battles of WW2 are both things of the past for the most part. Instead of a war of capturing and holding ground it's going to be a war of terrorist attacks, quick raids, propaganda and information warfare and it's pretty much already started IMHO. We might be able to avoid it blowing completely up, but at this point the sides are becoming more entrenched and a full conflict seems more and more unavoidable.

[Vandelay_Inds]

You know what, a war between great powers is actually extremely unlikely because they are armed with nuclear weapons. Paradoxically, the most destructive weapon of all will probably ensure an end to great power war for the forseeable future. What's scary is a suicidal society like some of the Muslims armed with one such devise...

[Ranger]

My prediction. :)

United States
Europe
Australia
Japan
Canada
México
Latin America
India
Israel
Taiwan

Vs.

North Africa
SE Asia
Middle East
Korea*
China
Russia

*I believe Korea will eventually unite.

[DJLinus]

Only if the machines become self-aware. Skynet is our real enemy.