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DVD Polizei
08-08-05, 11:19 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050809/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear

ISFAHAN, Iran - Iran stepped up its confrontation with the West over its nuclear program, restarting work at a uranium conversion facility Monday in a move the United States and Europe have warned will prompt them to seek U.N. sanctions.

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The resumption strikes a blow at European efforts to persuade Iran to rein in a program that Washington says is intended to develop nuclear weapons. Over the weekend, Iran, which says it aims only to produce electricity, rejected European proposals for economic incentives in return for limiting its nuclear activities.

The U.N. nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency, will hold an emergency meeting of its 35-member board of governors Tuesday to discuss the standoff with Iran.

Critics of Tehran question why Iran, which has vast reserves of petroleum, would need nuclear energy. Iran has responded by pointing out that it was Washington which first urged it to pursue a nuclear energy program while the pro-U.S. shah was in power.

France, Germany, Britain and the United States are likely to push for Iran to be referred to the U.N. Security Council, where they could seek new economic sanctions. But sanctions are far from a sure thing: Russia, which has helped Iran build its first nuclear reactor, and China, which has been strengthening ties with Tehran, hold veto power in the council.

"I think Iran should really bear in mind that this step is a step in the wrong direction," German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer said, according to ZDF television. But he suggested negotiations could continue, saying: "We are trying to prevent a negative trend with fatal consequences."

French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy urged Tehran to reconsider, saying it wasn't too late to turn back. "I call on Iran one more time, tonight, to listen to the voice of reason," he said.

Tehran suspended its nuclear activities in November to avoid sanctions and as a gesture in the negotiations with Europe. But it has expressed frustration with the talks and has been threatening for weeks to resume part of the program — work done at the Uranium Conversion Facility outside the city of Isfahan.

On Sunday, Iran brushed off the sanctions threat.

"We are not concerned and are ready for everything," Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi said. He called the threats "not effective. What interests us is cooperation. We advise Europe to withdraw its threats."

On Monday, work at Isfahan resume, after IAEA inspectors installed cameras and other surveillance equipment intended to ensure no nuclear material is diverted. Iranian technicians in white suits and surgical masks rolled out barrels of yellowcake — raw uranium — to begin the conversion process.

The facility covers over 150 acres spread along mountains outside the city. Parts of the facility were built in tunnels in the mountains as protection from airstrikes. It is also surrounded by radar stations and anti-aircraft batteries.

Iran learned a lesson from the 1981 Israeli airstrike against Iraq's main nuclear reactor. Iran has spread its facilities over several locations, each with underground installations. The Isfahan facility and the uranium enrichment plant in Natanz house the heart of the country's nuclear program.

The Isfahan Conversion Facility, 255 miles south of Tehran, carries out an early stage of the cycle for developing nuclear fuel, turning yellowcake into UF-6 gas, the feedstock for enrichment.

In the next stage of the process — which Iran has said it will not resume for the time being — the gas is fed in centrifuges for enrichment. Uranium enriched to a low level is used to produce nuclear fuel; further enrichment makes it suitable for use in an atomic bomb.

Mohammad Saeedi, deputy head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, said work was resuming "stage by stage" at Isfahan, starting with the unit that makes ammonium uranyl carbonate, or AUC, a component in the conversion process.

The plant will soon start turning yellowcake into UF-4, a preliminary stage before UF-6, the state news agency reported.

The AUC unit had not been sealed by the U.N. watchdog agency. Within the next two days, IAEA inspectors will remove seals that were put in place on the unit where UF-4 is turned into UF-6, bringing the facility into full operation, Saeedi said.

The seals are voluntary, and the IAEA has no choice but to remove them when Iran asks. Tehran says it is abiding by IAEA inspections of its sites, and allowed installation of surveillance equipment.

Iran has insisted it has the right under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty to carry out the entire fuel cycle — from raw uranium to fuel for a reactor. Europe fears that if Iran can develop fuel on its own, it will secretly produce material for a bomb.

IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei said work had resumed as Isfahan before the surveillance equipment was tested, "which normally takes 24 hours," ElBaradei's spokesman Mark Gwozdecky said in Vienna.

Earlier, Iran converted some 37 tons of yellowcake into UF-4. Experts say that amount could yield 200 pounds of weapons-grade uranium, enough to make five crude nuclear weapons.

Saeedi said Iran is willing to wait on starting uranium enrichment until a deal is reached with Europe. "We won't restart work in Natanz for now," he said. "We hope we will reach a logical conclusion in talks with Europeans."

An exiled opposition group, the National Council of Resistance of Iran, accused Tehran of exploiting talks with the Europeans in a "cat and mouse game" to stall for time while covertly developing a nuclear weapons program.

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Yah better stop now, Iran. Or. Or. We'll invade you too! Oh wait a minute. We don't have the manpower. Well, anyways, we're re-defining this terrorism thing, so get ready for some nasty name-calling then!

Myster X
08-09-05, 12:44 AM
I'm sure Israel is gearing up.

But sanctions are far from a sure thing: Russia, which has helped Iran build its first nuclear reactor, and China, which has been strengthening ties with Tehran, hold veto power in the council.

Another reason why Japan should be on the Security Council.

X
08-09-05, 12:45 AM
I'm sure Israel is gearing up.

But sanctions are far from a sure thing: Russia, which has helped Iran build its first nuclear reactor, and China, which has been strengthening ties with Tehran, hold veto power in the council.

Another reason why Japan should be on the Security Council.Doesn't it only take one veto?

Ranger
08-09-05, 12:49 AM
I'm sure they will be able to get the Sec Council to pass the trade sanctions resolution if there's enough pressure from the Gen Assembly. But the UN is looking even more weak now.

Myster X
08-09-05, 12:53 AM
Doesn't it only take one veto?

It does. But it makes the US and UK more appealing since France, Russia, and China are very much on the same page. I'm hoping Japan will vote along with US and UK.

X
08-09-05, 12:55 AM
It does. But it makes the US and UK more appealing since France, Russia, and China are very much on the same page. I'm hoping Japan will vote along with US and UK.I'm thinking Japan would just veto something else that all the other members wanted some time down the line. Like when they start wanting nukes.

And if Japan gets in Germany will be next.

Ranger
08-09-05, 12:56 AM
But hasn't France been a strong opponent of Iran's nuke program?

I think it's really only Russia that might stop the sanctions vote. China might try too, but I don't think that's likely since I think the Europeans have enough influence on them.

Ranger
08-09-05, 12:57 AM
I don't think Japan has veto powers, so why care about them?

X
08-09-05, 12:59 AM
But hasn't France been a strong opponent of Iran's nuke program? Unlike their deal with Iraq in the early 80's, France didn't get to sell Iran their plant. But Russia did.

Maybe we should just dump out of the U.N. and put the money we spend on it into buying off countries who sell destabilizing items such as nuclear reactors just for the cash.

DVD Polizei
08-09-05, 05:03 AM
Sanctions are for law-abiding folk.

VinVega
08-09-05, 09:57 AM
I'm sure Israel is gearing up.
Not sure what they can do since it appears that these stites are at least partially underground, spread out and have decent AA protection. Maybe if we sell them some of our bunker busters, but even then, an air strike is not going to be the slam dunk that the Iraqi strike was back in the early 80's. Iran has seen that trick and they've prepared for it.

Ranger
08-10-05, 03:20 PM
Whoa, look at this, the US really is going to sock it them. :)
US may block Ahmadinejad visit to UN (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/836CF5DF-9B3A-4CFE-9C6A-BD2DBC762B20.htm)

Grimfarrow
08-10-05, 06:22 PM
It does. But it makes the US and UK more appealing since France, Russia, and China are very much on the same page. I'm hoping Japan will vote along with US and UK.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050804/ts_nm/council_un_reform_dc_1

China, US to jointly oppose UN council expansion

China and the United States have agreed to work together to defeat plans to expand the prestigious U.N. Security Council at this time, China's U.N. ambassador said on Thursday.

The agreement came in a brief meeting with John Bolton, the George W. Bush administration's new ambassador to the United Nations, Ambassador Wang Guangya told reporters.

Bolton, who was sworn in on Monday, was not immediately available for comment.

A U.S. official said Beijing and Washington had long shared a belief that proposals to expand the 15-nation Security Council at this time would lead to a divisive international debate that could harm chances for crucial U.N. reforms to be taken up at a world summit in New York next month.

"There's nothing new to our opposition to any proposal (on Security Council expansion) that comes forward before U.N. reforms. We reiterated our stance yesterday," said Richard Grenell, spokesman for the U.S. Mission to the United Nations.

Wang said the United States and China "have shared objectives for the U.N. reform, and we have shared objectives for the Security Council expansion."

Brazil, Germany, India and Japan have banded together in a "Group of Four," to lobby for an expansion plan that would give all four of them permanent seats on an expanded council.

To win the necessary two-thirds vote in the 191-nation U.N. General Assembly, they would need substantial support from other regions including Africa. African Union leaders were meeting in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia on Thursday in search of a possible compromise with the four countries that could lead to approval.

"Definitely both sides see that the process now being pushed by the G4 is damaging the prospects for U.N. reform," Wang said. "So therefore both agreed in parallel with our joint efforts to stop it."

Asked if that meant a coordinated campaign with Washington, Wang responded, "coordinated efforts, yes."

The Security Council has five permanent members -- Britain, France and Russia as well as the United States and China. The other 10 members are elected for two-year terms.

Enlargement of the 15-member council, whose membership reflects the balance of power at the end of World War II, is currently the most contentious issue at the United Nations.

Myster X
08-10-05, 06:58 PM
I'll translate it clear cut.
China is kissing the US' ass since it does not and have no intention to see Japan on the SC or any chance of Taiwan becoming a UN member, two issues John Bolton is in favor of, Japan on the SC would surely side with US and UK. A developing country will most likely vote along with France, Russia, & China.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4746459.stm

Beijing will work with the United States to block a plan to add new permanent members to the UN Security Council, China's UN ambassador says.
Wang Guangya said he agreed the deal with the new US ambassador to the UN, John Bolton, at a meeting.

Both countries oppose a plan put forward by the Group of Four - Brazil, Germany, Japan and India - to add six new permanent members to the Council.

Meanwhile, the African Union has voted to demand two veto-wielding seats.

The G4 had asked them to drop the veto demand.

Parallel work

Beijing does not want Japan to have a permanent seat on the Council and would prefer to see more developing countries.

China and the US have different reasons for opposing the G4 plan, says the BBC's Susannah Price at the United Nations in New York.

Washington supports Japan's bid, but only wants "two or so" new permanent members.

Mr Wang admitted that they would be working in parallel rather than together in the coming weeks, "because we have different friends in different parts of the world".

But he stated: "At this stage, I think our objective will be to oppose the G4, to make sure they do not have sufficient votes to take the risk to divide the house.

"We agreed to work together to make sure that our interests are maintained."

Deep divisions

It came as member countries of the African Union (AU) met in Ethiopia's capital, Addis Ababa, for an extraordinary summit.

There are deep divisions within the continent on which countries would take the two permanent seats offered to Africa under the G4 proposals.

Egypt, Nigeria and South Africa are the leading candidates but other states are far from happy about being relegated to the second division, says the BBC's Martin Plaut.

But the AU agreed it would stick to its demands for the Council to be enlarged from 15 to 26 seats.

They want six new permanent seats with veto powers - two of those for Africa - and five new non-permanent seats, of which two would also be for Africa.

The G4 has proposed a 25-member council, with six new permanent seats without a veto - four for them, and two for Africa - as well as four non-permanent seats.

UN members have been discussing the expansion of the Security Council for years, to reflect today's world rather than the balance of power following World War II.

UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has said he would like a decision on Council expansion before the UN summit of world leaders in September.

DVD Polizei
08-10-05, 09:19 PM
Everybody Wang Guangya Chung tonight.

DVD Polizei
08-14-05, 10:43 AM
Iran Says It STILL won't stop... (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050814/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear)

President Bush said on Israeli TV on Friday that "all options are on the table" in dealing with Iran, but the German leader disagreed.

"I see a military option a high-grade danger," Schroeder said. "Therefore I can certainly rule out that a German government under my leadership would take part in one."

Yeah, let's invade Iran too. -rolleyes-

GFM
08-14-05, 12:24 PM
Yeah, let's invade Iran too. -rolleyes-

I think Bush is alluding more to a strike ala the one against Osirak than an invasion.

Thor Simpson
08-14-05, 12:39 PM
China will back us on this one because of future dealings with N. Korea.

cinten
08-14-05, 12:40 PM
So called rogue nations saw what happened to a counrty with no WMDs (Iraq). They see what is happening to a country with WMD (North Korea). Bush invaded the one without WMDs and leaves the one with nukes atop misssles that can actually hit U.S. cities. So as far as they see it the WMDs are a security, it's a gamble on both sides.

What do you think will happen if Bush bombs Iran. There is no way we can fight three wars, considering how we are losing one as it is. If Bush bombs Iran then terror will skyrocket. Training camps will be brought up everywhere and given all the money they need, Iran is way to big to find them. The U.S. will be in even more danger.

Thor Simpson
08-14-05, 12:43 PM
What do you think will happen if Bush bombs Iran. There is no way we can fight three wars, considering how we are losing one as it is.
Maybe we get Iran to invade Iraq and give our boys something visible to shoot at.

Myster X
08-14-05, 01:21 PM
Bush will let Israel do the work and watch it on the big screen at his ranch. ;)

DVD Polizei
08-14-05, 07:25 PM
So called rogue nations saw what happened to a counrty with no WMDs (Iraq). They see what is happening to a country with WMD (North Korea). Bush invaded the one without WMDs and leaves the one with nukes atop misssles that can actually hit U.S. cities. So as far as they see it the WMDs are a security, it's a gamble on both sides.

What do you think will happen if Bush bombs Iran. There is no way we can fight three wars, considering how we are losing one as it is. If Bush bombs Iran then terror will skyrocket. Training camps will be brought up everywhere and given all the money they need, Iran is way to big to find them. The U.S. will be in even more danger.

Well, terror won't skyrocket, but hatred will, and eventually there will be a nice and juicy attack on US cities. We're lucky most terrorists don't have their eyes set on the US. If they did, it would be chaos. But that day will come if the US keeps this up.

Thor Simpson
08-14-05, 07:50 PM
We're lucky most terrorists don't have their eyes set on the US. If they did, it would be chaos. But that day will come if the US keeps this up.
Are you saying this just so you can pull a "I told you so" and blame the next attack on US policies? Do you think attacks aren't already in the planning stages? Do you think involvement in Iran would incite more than we already have? Are the people who want to harm the US just a <i>litte</i> pissed off right now, but that would push them over the edge to the point where more US attacks would be likely? Or would it just give them one more thing to point a finger at?

DVD Polizei
08-14-05, 08:04 PM
Are you saying this just so you can pull a "I told you so" and blame the next attack on US policies?

YES. :up:

Do you think attacks aren't already in the planning stages? Do you think involvement in Iran would incite more than we already have? Are the people who want to harm the US just a <i>litte</i> pissed off right now, but that would push them over the edge to the point where more US attacks would be likely? Or would it just give them one more thing to point a finger at?

Yes, unfortunately, major plans are already in the works. An Iran invasion would certainly make people more pissy, but I doubt we would see "Hell and Fury" reigning down from Allah.

But hey, if Bush wants to find out, good luck to him.

Thor Simpson
08-14-05, 08:17 PM
But hey, if Bush wants to find out, good luck to him.

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Myster X
08-19-05, 03:14 PM
Calling the UN...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050819/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear_1;_ylt=Ai0AkxJ2rqPEvxvRqQK1ZLdSw60A;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Khamenei: Iran Won't Stop Nuke Enrichment

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran does not intend to build nuclear weapons, but it will continue to enrich uranium because it does not want to be dependent on others for its nuclear fuel needs, the country's supreme ruler said Friday

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told tens of thousands of worshippers at Tehran University that Western allegations his country is secretly trying to make weapons are "a propaganda trick to deceive their own public opinion."

"They (the West) speak as if Iran is seeking nuclear weapons and they oppose it," said Khamenei, who has the final say on all state matters. "I've said it repeatedly that we are not seeking nuclear weapons."

Rather, Tehran wants to enrich uranium to low levels to use in reactors that will generate electricity, he said.

Khamenei said Iran's next step will be to build nuclear power plants without outside help. Russia currently is putting the finishing touches on a new nuclear power plant in Bushehr on the shores of the Persian Gulf in southern Iran. It is expected to be operational by August 2006.

"We want to enrich our own uranium explored from our own mines with equipment and technology that belongs to ourselves developed by our young scientists to produce fuel for our nuclear power plants," Khamenei said.

Iran plans to build six more 1,000-megawatt nuclear power plants until 2021, by when its electricity consumption will reach 56,000 megawatts. Iran says it will need to produce 70,000 megawatts of electricity, with 7,000 megawatts to be generated by nuclear power plants.

Khamenei's comments follow Iran's recent rejection of a European offer to permanently suspend uranium enrichment activities in return for a package of incentives, including supplying Iran with nuclear fuel.

"They (Europeans) say, 'Purchase it (nuclear fuel) from us.' That means dependency," the supreme leader said.

Iran suspended uranium enrichment in 2003 and expanded its suspension in November to include uranium reprocessing activities and building centrifuges used to enrich uranium. The moves were made to avoid referral to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions and to build trust in negotiations with Europe.

Efforts by Germany, Britain and France to rein in Tehran's nuclear program suffered a blow earlier this month when Iran partially ended the nine-month suspension and restarted work last week at its Uranium Conversion Facility in the central city of Isfahan.

The move was sharply criticized by the West. President Bush indicated the military force may be an option if diplomacy fails to curb the nuclear program, which is a source of national pride for Iranians.

German Chancellor Gerhard Shroeder, who is campaigning for national elections next month, opposes that option.

Iran has called on the Europeans to start negotiations to allow Tehran to restart actual uranium enrichment — injecting gas into centrifuges used to enrich uranium. Tehran says it will never again suspend uranium conversion and has warned that Europe's reaction to Iranian demands will largely influence Iran's decision when to restart the work at its enrichment plant in Natanz, central Iran.

Khamenei said Iran will not give up its attempts to control the whole nuclear fuel cycle — from extracting uranium to enriching it — in line with rights granted by the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

Iran said it rejected the European package because it failed to recognize Iran's right under the NPT to enrich uranium.

"We don't fear anybody. We have the necessary might and means to defend our rights and we won't give up our rights," he said while drawing shouts of "Never! Never!" from worshippers. "No one has the right to compromise over the rights of the nation."

Some 500 worshippers demonstrated outside the university after Friday prayers to support Iran's decision to resume uranium conversion in Isfahan. Demonstrators shouted, "Nuclear energy is our right!"