Why are the Alien Jedi such Wimps ?
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I wouldn't say that. One has to remember that Eps I-III have been showing the Jedi at the end of their Glory Days. They're in the process of having their asses kicked in a slow methodic manner throughout all three movies.
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Except Yoda of course
It's just they seem to go down so easily
Look at Sidious, when Windu and the other jedi went to arrest him as Palpy, the two alien jedi went down with one blow !
It's just they seem to go down so easily
Look at Sidious, when Windu and the other jedi went to arrest him as Palpy, the two alien jedi went down with one blow !
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especially when they shoot you in the back. I think that no matter if you were an alien or human jedi. Your troops turning on you out of nowhere would lead to a quick demise.
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There were too many clontroppers shooting at them, the incredible volume was enough to kill them. A Jedi can sense all they want, but they can only block so many blaster shots.
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Isn't Mace Windu an alien? He's supposed to be 800 years old, isn't he?
Don't the Star Wars "humans" have lifespans like Earth humans?
Don't the Star Wars "humans" have lifespans like Earth humans?
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Isn't Mace Windu an alien? He's supposed to be 800 years old, isn't he?
Don't the Star Wars "humans" have lifespans like Earth humans?
Don't the Star Wars "humans" have lifespans like Earth humans?
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Originally Posted by Original Desmond
Look at Sidious, when Windu and the other jedi went to arrest him as Palpy, the two alien jedi went down with one blow !
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where was the "force push". that could of been used to get out of town. the "push" is what i was thinking when the clonetroopers turned on the jedi. jedi are viewed as idiots for not using that. no, but instead they think they're in yankee stadium swinging away at schilling. the jedi masters must of learned the ways of the jedi by reading a book. like freakin daniel laruso in the karate kid.
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Yah this part kind of confused me. Most of the Jedi Masters died so easily. And talking about the part with Sidious, Mace, and the alien Jedi, they could have orchestrated an interesting 3 on 1 fight there. Very disappointing.
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I think something that isn't explained, but that I can assume myself to fill in some gaps, is that almost none of the Jedi, human or alien, have ever faced an equal opponent in a life or death lightsaber duel. In fact, before the Clone Wars, I doubt most had seen large-scale battle.
The Sith suddenly show up again and only a few get real experience facing them: Obi-wan, Anakin, Yoda, Qui-gon. Some Jedi may have experience from the past, but I bet only a few at the most.
This could explain why they fall so easily, even to Grievous. Facing an opponent with a lightsaber, who knows how to use it, would be a big change and a deadly battle. If the Jedi is not ready, they are dead.
As for dying by Clone, I think for many it is also a lack of experience, even for Masters. The dark side hid itself well, and none of the Jedi expected the army to suddenly turn on them. The only Jedi who seemed to figure it out in time was Yoda, and most likely only because he felt the other Jedi die. Even Obi-wan has attacked successfully, but managed to survive the fall and swim to safety. Jedi can sense a trap and danger it seems, but perhaps when you are engaged in battle with emotions high, it becomes harder to distiguish the true nature of feelings?
The Sith suddenly show up again and only a few get real experience facing them: Obi-wan, Anakin, Yoda, Qui-gon. Some Jedi may have experience from the past, but I bet only a few at the most.
This could explain why they fall so easily, even to Grievous. Facing an opponent with a lightsaber, who knows how to use it, would be a big change and a deadly battle. If the Jedi is not ready, they are dead.
As for dying by Clone, I think for many it is also a lack of experience, even for Masters. The dark side hid itself well, and none of the Jedi expected the army to suddenly turn on them. The only Jedi who seemed to figure it out in time was Yoda, and most likely only because he felt the other Jedi die. Even Obi-wan has attacked successfully, but managed to survive the fall and swim to safety. Jedi can sense a trap and danger it seems, but perhaps when you are engaged in battle with emotions high, it becomes harder to distiguish the true nature of feelings?
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Yeah I was disappointed that Kit Fisto and I think (from memory) Saesee Tinn (sp) died so easily (they were in the room with Mace and emperor)
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OK given the fact that vader is awesome yada yada. how is it in ESB he can block han's blaster shots with his HAND!!!!!!!! And yet every other jedi gets wasted or has to use their saber to deflect it. Especially the masters and the dumb jedi that jumps on the balcony in EP2 and gets wasted by Jango's guns. I mean vader using his hand is just awesome, but I don't buy the argument that he has the "mechanical body parts" lasers blow up machines too. So needless to say it sucks that jedi's gets wasted by laser guns.
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Originally Posted by paulringodaman
Yeah I was disappointed that Kit Fisto and I think (from memory) Saesee Tinn (sp) died so easily (they were in the room with Mace and emperor)
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Originally Posted by Original Desmond
But aren't Jedi supposed to sense these things ?
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Originally Posted by squaresoft7
OK given the fact that vader is awesome yada yada. how is it in ESB he can block han's blaster shots with his HAND!!!!!!!! And yet every other jedi gets wasted or has to use their saber to deflect it. Especially the masters and the dumb jedi that jumps on the balcony in EP2 and gets wasted by Jango's guns. I mean vader using his hand is just awesome, but I don't buy the argument that he has the "mechanical body parts" lasers blow up machines too. So needless to say it sucks that jedi's gets wasted by laser guns.
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The prequels show that although the Jedi are great and all, they aren't godlike fighters. And when you look at the OT, you see that there's no reason to think that.
I see them as something close to Navy Seals x 10.
999 times out of a 1000, they will kick your ass, but there's always a chance.
D
I see them as something close to Navy Seals x 10.
999 times out of a 1000, they will kick your ass, but there's always a chance.
D
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Originally Posted by Superboy
That was explained over a century ago. His suit is made with mandalorian armor, which is resistent to blaster fire and lightsabers. That's also why when Luke slashes him in Episode V it barely nicks him.
yeah maybe the armor, but his gloves? how can he hold a lightsaber and be flexible if the palms of his hands are armor plated?
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I think it was wise of Lucas to show the Emperor's plan of haveing the Jedi by themselves on each of their missions with just the clone army. By seperating the Jedi it was easier to show how they would be killed off. The only arguement I would have is that the Clone Wars cartoon clearly shows that Windu is able to fend off hundreds of the hugh droids by himself. I would have liked to see the Jedi put up more of a fight, but it would have diminished Yoda's scene.
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I actually enjoyed the extermination sequence a lot. I felt it was pretty realistic, with most of the Jedi managing to put up a fight but ultimately overwhelmed by the sheer volume of fire being directed at them.