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OldDude
05-03-05, 10:15 AM
L&O:SVU and L&O:TBJ have a special 2 hour crossover edition tonight on NBC, 9-11 EDT.
Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
NBC May 03 09:00pm Add to My Calendar
Series/Drama, 60 Mins.
"Night"
Benson and Stabler have a suspect (Alfred Molina) but not enough evidence when a serial rapist preys on illegal immigrant women, and Tracy Kibre (Bebe Neuwirth) is brought in to work on the case.

Cast: Christopher Meloni, Mariska Hargitay, Richard Belzer, Dann Florek, Ice-T, B.D. Wong, Diane Neal, Tamara Tunie, Angela Lansbury, Alfred Molina, Bradley Cooper, Bebe Neuwirth.
Producer(s): Dick Wolf, Ted Kotcheff, Neal Baer.

Original Airdate: May 3, 2005.
Law & Order: Trial by Jury
NBC May 03 10:00pm Add to My Calendar
Series/Drama, 60 Mins.
"Day"
Kibre works with Detectives Benson and Stabler (Christopher Meloni, Mariska Hargitay) to prosecute a serial rapist (Alfred Molina) whose wealthy mother (Angela Lansbury) has been covering up his crimes for years.

Cast: Bebe Neuwirth, Amy Carlson, Fred D Thompson, Kirk Acevedo, Scott Cohen, Christopher Meloni, Mariska Hargitay, Alfred Molina, Angela Lansbury, Bradley Cooper, Larry King, Rita Moreno.
Producer(s): Dick Wolf, Walon Green, Peter Jankowski.

Original Airdate: May 3, 2005.

Red Dog
05-03-05, 10:30 AM
Given the guest stars, I've been looking forward to this one ever since they announced the crossover a month ago.

MrX
05-03-05, 02:01 PM
I didn't realize until I looked at the TVguide yesterday that they were running them back to back on the same night. I wonder how many people will miss SVU because they think it's on at the normal time.

Red Dog
05-03-05, 02:17 PM
I didn't realize until I looked at the TVguide yesterday that they were running them back to back on the same night. I wonder how many people will miss SVU because they think it's on at the normal time.

They've heavily promoted this (particularly during the various incarnations of L&O).

Supermallet
05-03-05, 09:28 PM
I can't wait for this tonight. :up:

I'm just worried about seeing BJ Lips getting attacked. :(

mikehunt
05-03-05, 10:16 PM
spiderman will save the day

Supermallet
05-04-05, 03:39 AM
Two good episodes. I thought the SVU one was more focused, but really, the whole thing felt like a long SVU episode, since Benson and Stabler did almost all the interviewing in Trial By Jury. I did like the interplay between Stabler and the TBJ cop when they got Molina to spill his guts, though.

Good performances by both Molina and Lansbury. It's great to see her working again.

And can anyone get a screencap of Casey wearing the team softball shirt? I couldn't stop laughing, watching her walking around in this jersey that said "Sex Crimes" in a real slinky font. Too damn funny.

Red Dog
05-05-05, 09:37 AM
That was great. I thought Alfred Molina was terrific.

I loved the Sex Crimes softball uniform too. :lol::thumbsup:

das Monkey
05-05-05, 09:54 AM
Not bad, but not great either. It was pretty clear which was the superior show. Everything started off great with <i>SVU</i> and then stumbled through <i>TBJ</i>. Molina and Lansbury were fantastic, though.

It's just a shame B.D. couldn't be there. Between the crossover with Acevedo and Rita Moreno, it had the makings of another great <i>Oz</i> party.

das

lisadoris
05-05-05, 07:57 PM
It's just a shame B.D. couldn't be there.
I knew something was missing from the episodes but I was busy staring at Bradley Cooper that I couldn't put my finger on it. Decent crossover - much better than the original L&O/TBJ episode. There was enough terrific creepiness to go around with the guest stars and I never saw that beat down coming either (though I have to ask if the brother was so careful to avoid the door cameras and not sign his name, why pose for the elevator camera?). One lawyer "killed" another one beaten - it's just dangerous all around.

clemente
05-05-05, 08:12 PM
I've seen some repeats of SVU on USA, but I've only become a regular watcher in the past several weeks, why is BD Wong in these episodes. Is he pulling a Jesse Marting and working on something on the side?

Supermallet
05-05-05, 08:24 PM
So no one has a screencap of the Sex Crimes softball shirt?

WhoGirl
05-06-05, 02:17 PM
So no one has a screencap of the Sex Crimes softball shirt?
Another request for this... please!!! :lol:

I don't think I've cracked up at L&O more than at that shirt. Hell, I wish they sold those.

mikehunt
05-06-05, 02:20 PM
just download the ep and take one

Supermallet
05-07-05, 02:48 PM
I don't bittorrent, so where would you suggest I download it?

Kal-El
05-07-05, 05:27 PM
As you wish fellow TVTalkers:

http://home.comcast.net/~arjedi/Images/PDVD_000.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~arjedi/Images/PDVD_001.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~arjedi/Images/PDVD_002.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~arjedi/Images/PDVD_003.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~arjedi/Images/PDVD_004.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~arjedi/Images/PDVD_005.jpg

Sorry for the crappy quality. semi-hi-res zipped version over here. (http://home.comcast.net/~arjedi/Images/Snapshot.zip)

Supermallet
05-07-05, 06:05 PM
Those are awesome. :lol: Thanks! :up: :up:

movieking
05-07-05, 07:19 PM
Watching these episodes back to back really shows how superior is SVU is. Not sure if TBJ will be back next year (the season finale was on Friday), but if it is, I won't be tuning in.

Supermallet
05-07-05, 07:43 PM
Actually, last night's TBJ was the best of the season.

Goldberg74
05-07-05, 11:02 PM
Actually, last night's TBJ was the best of the season.
:up: Agreed!

Red Dog
05-09-05, 10:06 AM
Actually, last night's TBJ was the best of the season.

It was excellent. Don't know if it was the best, but it was one of the best.

TBJ had a very nice 1st season. It isn't quite up to the quality of SVU but it is without question better than the original right now. I love Bebe Neuwirth in that role and with the dearth of quality drama female leads on television (assuming the ladies of Wisteria Lane are nominated in the comedy category), I definitely think she deserves an Emmy nomination.

movieking
05-09-05, 10:19 AM
I still have the last episode on PVR, and based on the praise here, I'll check it out.

My biggest dislikes about this series are the characters. I don't like them. I really don't.

The thing that I really liked about this series was the behind the scenes interactions amongst the judges. We never see any of that in any other series, and I really liked it. It humanized the judges.

Supermallet
05-09-05, 10:32 AM
My biggest problem with TBJ was the cops. They weren't interesting. But then they did the episode about the cop who replaced Briscoe (the one where he used to work with the policemen who were on trial), and I got into his character. Then, during the SVU crossover, he and Stabler had a great scene together interviewing Alfred Molina, and it solidified the character for me. The guy with the scratchy voice and bad back is boring, though. No charisma.

Red Dog
05-09-05, 10:37 AM
My biggest problem with TBJ was the cops. They weren't interesting. But then they did the episode about the cop who replaced Briscoe (the one where he used to work with the policemen who were on trial), and I got into his character. Then, during the SVU crossover, he and Stabler had a great scene together interviewing Alfred Molina, and it solidified the character for me. The guy with the scratchy voice and bad back is boring, though. No charisma.

The cops/investigators aren't supposed to have a major focus in TBJ, so it isn't really an issue for me. I do think Scott Cohen does a nice job in his role though.

DaveNinja
05-09-05, 11:20 AM
I only tivoed the SVU, can someone tell me what happened in the 2nd part?

MrX
05-09-05, 07:27 PM
He was convicted of raping the muslim woman, everything else was not allowed.

I agree they were both good episodes, but SVU was better.

It would have been great if Wong was there and if they brought J.K. back as Skoda instead of Olivet.

Supermallet
05-09-05, 09:23 PM
The cops/investigators aren't supposed to have a major focus in TBJ, so it isn't really an issue for me. I do think Scott Cohen does a nice job in his role though.

Yeah, and DA Carver isn't the focus on Law & Order: CI, but at least he isn't so outright boring and stiff as the one cop on TBJ, who, by the way, has gotten plenty of airtime.

Speaking of CI, it's feeling more and more like it's taking place in some alternate reality, completely unrelated to the other L&O shows.

Josh H
05-11-05, 10:00 PM
Still not a big fan of TBJ. A couple decent episodes and this cross over was great. On a normal episode I feel I only get half the story with the police stuff missing. The crossover's give an hour to each the police side and the court side which is great.

Of course one could make the same argument about SVU, but I like the police side MUCH more than the court side so it doesn't bother me there.

movieking
05-12-05, 06:55 AM
The problem that I am starting to have with SVU is the direction that they are taking Stabler's character.

Red Dog
05-12-05, 02:59 PM
Yeah, and DA Carver isn't the focus on Law & Order: CI, but at least he isn't so outright boring and stiff as the one cop on TBJ, who, by the way, has gotten plenty of airtime.



CI is such a waste of Courtney Vance's talent.

Deftones
05-12-05, 03:29 PM
The problem that I am starting to have with SVU is the direction that they are taking Stabler's character.

Why? I think that the character development on SVU is one of the reasons why it's better than the other L&O shows. The one earlier this season where Ice-T was the focus of the episode was fantastic. Now they need to delve into Benson's character a bit more.

movieking
05-12-05, 03:57 PM
There is no development for Stabler. He is a timebomb waiting to go off, and any show where he plays a main part shows this...over and over and over again. His own daughter was scared to call him, and not in the sense that she didn't want to disappoint him, but she seemed legitimately scared of him.

I just wish they would show more of his character than his anger.

Deftones
05-12-05, 03:59 PM
There is no development for Stabler. He is a timebomb waiting to go off, and any show where he plays a main part shows this...over and over and over again. His own daughter was scared to call him, and not in the sense that she didn't want to disappoint him, but she seemed legitimately scared of him.

I just wish they would show more of his character than his anger.

But that is character development. His life is falling apart around him, and they are exploring that more and more.

Sort of parallels Vic Mackey on The Shield, but to a lesser extent.

Red Dog
05-12-05, 04:02 PM
I agree with movieking. I don't like the direction they have taken Stabler's character. A little development here and there (like they did with Ice-T and like the original did with Jamie, Lennie, Claire, etc in the past) is fine. No need to pound us over the head with it like they are doing with Stabler.

Red Dog
05-12-05, 04:03 PM
Sort of parallels Vic Mackey on The Shield, but to a lesser extent.

The Shield is a completely different kind of show. I expect it there. I don't expect it on a Law & Order - at least to anywhere near the same extent.

Deftones
05-12-05, 05:04 PM
The Shield is a completely different kind of show. I expect it there. I don't expect it on a Law & Order - at least to anywhere near the same extent.

I wasn't comparing the show, simply the characters. Both have anger issues and both have skirted authority to get the job done. That was my point.

Josh H
05-12-05, 05:29 PM
I like the character development. The main reason SVU is one of my faves when I was never much into plain L&O.

Supermallet
05-12-05, 08:48 PM
I agree with movieking. I don't like the direction they have taken Stabler's character. A little development here and there (like they did with Ice-T and like the original did with Jamie, Lennie, Claire, etc in the past) is fine. No need to pound us over the head with it like they are doing with Stabler.

I agree. Sometimes I wish they'd show us the other side of Stabler - the side that fondles his sweaters and humps the fridge.

theedge
05-14-05, 02:09 AM
I agree. Sometimes I wish they'd show us the other side of Stabler - the side that fondles his sweaters and humps the fridge.

Yeah, I hope it's on his last episode on SVU, they bring in his personality from OZ ... Oh yeah, come here captain!

Red Dog
05-18-05, 02:01 PM
I agree with movieking. I don't like the direction they have taken Stabler's character. A little development here and there (like they did with Ice-T and like the original did with Jamie, Lennie, Claire, etc in the past) is fine. No need to pound us over the head with it like they are doing with Stabler.


So Stabler has no qualms about crossing the line and bucking the rules last week but in last night's episode (with the kid needing the kidney transplant, who I found to be more a sympathetic figure than the old lady in last week's episode), he is entirely by the book? Whatever. One more reason why I think they need to stay away from deep personal storylines - it requires consistency.

Cusm
05-20-05, 10:08 AM
I agree. Sometimes I wish they'd show us the other side of Stabler - the side that fondles his sweaters and humps the fridge.


Or smear mud on his ass.