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welb25
04-14-05, 10:59 AM
big unit in Fenway. Good stuff. :thumbsup:
LorenzoL
04-14-05, 11:32 AM
Let's go Blue Jays!
Deftones
04-14-05, 11:39 AM
Dbacks are apart of history with the inagural game in Washington DC. :up:
raven56706
04-14-05, 11:45 AM
:hscratch:
blue jays in 1st
LorenzoL
04-14-05, 12:04 PM
:hscratch:
blue jays in 1st
You are just jealous. :p
B.A.
04-14-05, 12:14 PM
The race in the AL West is already getting nasty! :eek:
Mordred
04-14-05, 12:48 PM
The race in the AL West is already getting nasty! :eek:The AL West is always a dogfight since pretty much every year 3 of the 4 teams are good, but you rarely get a great team that can run away with it. You'd think it'd be the easiest division to win, but that never seems to be the case.
RoyalTea
04-14-05, 01:22 PM
Dbacks are apart of history with the inagural game in Washington DC. :up:I can't wait for tonight.
I wonder if Bush will throw from the pitching rubber.
Mayor Williams threw the first pitch from about 40 feet before the exhibition against the Mets.
Third Baseman
04-14-05, 05:29 PM
I wonder if Bush will throw from the pitching rubber. Hell Yeah he will! :up:
With Javier Vazquez going tonight, Bush's first pitch will be the best of a non-National. :banana:
Red Dog
04-14-05, 06:59 PM
I can't wait for tonight.
I wonder if Bush will throw from the pitching rubber.
Mayor Williams threw the first pitch from about 40 feet before the exhibition against the Mets.
He threw a little bit in front of the rubber. He should have thrown from the rubber because his pitch was high.
I'm impressed with how good the field looks.
Obey The D
04-14-05, 07:11 PM
Talk about a phantom tag!
wabio
04-14-05, 07:12 PM
That 1st base ump is as blind as a bat!!!!
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 07:12 PM
That was one bad call. Woof!
But I'll take it.
Obey The D
04-14-05, 07:13 PM
It's a shame A-rod wasn't running to first, then we could of seen a phantom slap. ;)
wabio
04-14-05, 07:16 PM
Cost us a godd*mn run!!! :mad:
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 07:22 PM
well the old Mets are back, loading them up in the 1st, 1-0 already.
wabio
04-14-05, 07:25 PM
well the old Mets are back, loading them up in the 1st, 1-0 already.
I never even knew they'd left. :hscratch: :p
wabio
04-14-05, 07:29 PM
Now we get Doug Flutie catching foul balls. -ohbfrank-
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 07:36 PM
I never even knew they'd left. :hscratch: :p
:lol:
Well after the bases loaded it would've been 4 or 5-0 last year.
1-1 now.
Deftones
04-14-05, 07:54 PM
So far, Vazquez has looked like a guy that deserves to be a #1 guy. Let's hope that holds up.
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 08:21 PM
:mad: Yankees tie it up. The ump really fucked over the Red Sox.
wabio
04-14-05, 08:21 PM
Godzilla pwnz Boston!!!!!!
wabio
04-14-05, 08:22 PM
So far, Vazquez has looked like a guy that deserves to be a #1 guy. Let's hope that holds up.
Nope. :lol:
Aphex Twin
04-14-05, 08:22 PM
So far, Vazquez has looked like a guy that deserves to be a #1 guy. Let's hope that holds up.
I don't think 3 ER in 4IP is really a good indication of a "#1 guy". :)
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 08:24 PM
-ohbfrank- Should have been out of the inning awhile ago.
huh?
04-14-05, 08:24 PM
very bad umpires in the sox-yanks game tonight.... wtf
huh?
04-14-05, 08:26 PM
suprised they didn't call posada safe .....
wabio
04-14-05, 08:26 PM
very bad umpires in the sox-yanks game tonight.... wtf
Well.....if the very first play of the game wasn't any indication, I don't know what is.
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 08:27 PM
suprised they didn't call posada safe .....
:lol:
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 08:27 PM
Well.....if the very first play of the game wasn't any indication, I don't know what is.
I missed it. What happened?
huh?
04-14-05, 08:27 PM
Well.....if the very first play of the game wasn't any indication, I don't know what is.
good point... that was trash.
huh?
04-14-05, 08:28 PM
I missed it. What happened?
Millar missed a tag on Womack by at least 3 feet (not making that up) and they called him out...
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 08:29 PM
What a shot by Varitek! :banana:
huh?
04-14-05, 08:30 PM
Nice Veritek... HR!! 5-5
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 08:32 PM
Note to ump: When both teams complain about your inconsistancy, YOU SUCK!
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 08:33 PM
It was worth it, Tito! :lol:
Aphex Twin
04-14-05, 08:35 PM
Note to ump: When both teams complain about your inconsistancy, YOU SUCK!
Perhaps he is drunk or trippin balls?
huh?
04-14-05, 08:36 PM
That ump is trash... good job Tito.
huh?
04-14-05, 08:39 PM
Where are the real sox fans tonight? Back in the day the crowd would be all over this ump.... This Sox-Yankee thing is getting too corporate.
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 08:46 PM
Lurch needs to get tossed. That shit usually doesn't fly.
huh?
04-14-05, 08:52 PM
So it wasn't a strike for sheffield, but it's a strike for jeter.... that makes sense.
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 08:53 PM
Routine play for O-Cab...or Nomar :D
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 08:53 PM
:lol: Nice side by side for NESN. Strike 3 for Jeter was identical to Ball 4 to Sheffield in his previous AB.
wabio
04-14-05, 09:03 PM
Where are the real sox fans tonight? Back in the day the crowd would be all over this ump.... This Sox-Yankee thing is getting too corporate.
Well then quit spending so much money! :mad: :p
FantasticVSDoom
04-14-05, 09:11 PM
Where are the real sox fans tonight? Back in the day the crowd would be all over this ump.... This Sox-Yankee thing is getting too corporate.
Just getting back from the gym, where I almost got in a fight with a guy there because of his obvious lack of what a strike is like this ump...
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 09:21 PM
:mad: Cormier, you butthole. Castilla is a single from the cycle, and Cormier drills him. -ohbfrank-
FantasticVSDoom
04-14-05, 09:25 PM
Maybe they should start letting the pitcher hit for Bellhorn...
wabio
04-14-05, 09:26 PM
With a 2-2 count, Tampa Bay brings in another reliever just to pitch to Tejada. 2nd pitch. Homerun. :lol:
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 09:30 PM
Foulke in the 8th? I guess they learned their lesson from the other day when Timlin blew it.
wabio
04-14-05, 09:33 PM
C'mon.....c'mon......we need at least 3 more runs before we can bring in MO. :mad:
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 09:33 PM
Maybe they should start letting the pitcher hit for Bellhorn...
I'd rather have Jim Abbott hitting than Bellhorn
FantasticVSDoom
04-14-05, 09:45 PM
:up: way to earn some of that money Edgar...
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 09:46 PM
:up: way to earn some of that money Edgar...
He's my favorite player. You know, until his next AB.
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 09:51 PM
Sheff took a swing at a fan?
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 09:52 PM
:lol: Sheffield looked like he was ready to pound that dope
FantasticVSDoom
04-14-05, 09:52 PM
I dont think the Yankees want to take on all of Fenway :lol:
Obey The D
04-14-05, 09:52 PM
Didn't know Ron Artest was playing left field for the Yanks.
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 09:53 PM
Yeah some guy took a swipe at him.
Obey The D
04-14-05, 09:55 PM
Looking at the replay, it almost looks like he went to low five his buddie and hit Shef on accident.
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 09:56 PM
Looking at the replay, it almost looks like he went to low five his buddie and hit Shef on accident.
:lol:
I would've loved to see Sheffield pull that ass outta the stands and beat him.
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 09:56 PM
Lets please have a moment of silence for the beer that was spilled. :(
FantasticVSDoom
04-14-05, 09:57 PM
:lol:
I would've loved to see Sheffield pull that ass outta the stands and beat him.
And then the beat down Sheffield would get from the rest of the fans...
raven56706
04-14-05, 09:57 PM
That is freaking stupid. They should have known better and thats what happens. Sheff, you should have hit him
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 09:58 PM
And then the beat down Sheffield would get from the rest of the fans...
I don't think so, they had security and cops right there. Any other fans jumped him they'd be going straight to jail and have a nice lawsuit from the Yankees.
Obey The D
04-14-05, 09:58 PM
:lol:
I would've loved to see Sheffield pull that ass outta the stands and beat him.
Someone's going to need to get a still of that guys face when Shef looked like he was going to punch him. It was right up there with the expression on the guy who Artest ran after.
edit: After watching it again, the guy didn't look to scared. If that was me, I would of shit my pants. :)
FantasticVSDoom
04-14-05, 10:00 PM
Someone's going to need to get a still of that guys face when Shef looked like he was going to punch him. It was right up there with the expression on the guy who Artest ran after.
Even better was the expression of the lady who lost her beer, almost like she just lost her child...
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 10:00 PM
Someone's going to need to get a still of that guys face when Shef looked like he was going to punch him. It was right up there with the expression on the guy who Artest ran after.
The guy looked pretty relieved when security jumped in there.
FantasticVSDoom
04-14-05, 10:02 PM
Well at least you get to see a little bit of everything when these 2 teams play...
raven56706
04-14-05, 10:02 PM
"mr sheffield, please buy me another beer"
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 10:09 PM
The guy was arrested? And Sheffield still gets to play?
Obey The D
04-14-05, 10:09 PM
It's time to step up and do something Alex.
edit: And by do something I don't mean pop up. :(
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 10:17 PM
Very nice pop up on ball 4. :up:
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 10:17 PM
1 more out. C'mon Foulke!
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 10:17 PM
So the guy hasnt been arrested? Top notch reporting there, NESN.
FantasticVSDoom
04-14-05, 10:18 PM
Damn watching Foulke is getting real painful...
Elldubtoo
04-14-05, 10:18 PM
A-Rod is the Patrick Ewing of baseball. Wake me up when he makes a clutch play.
whotony
04-14-05, 10:19 PM
looked to me like sheffield was doing the whole,
"i'll just act like i'm bad and then someone will run over
and get between us then i'll act all bad again" thing.
what a weasel, sheffield is.
the guy barely brushed the bill of his cap.
sheesh, can he cram any more chew into his mouth?
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 10:20 PM
Nice work, Keith.
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 10:21 PM
Sox win! :banana:
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 10:21 PM
YES!! Good catch, Tek!
Obey The D
04-14-05, 10:22 PM
looked to me like sheffield was doing the whole,
"i'll just act like i'm bad and then someone will run over
and get between us then i'll act all bad again" thing.
what a weasel, sheffield is.
the guy barely brushed the bill of his cap.
sheesh, can he cram any more chew into his mouth?
It looked to me like he was doing the "I'd love to yank you out of the stands and beat the living shit out of you, but I don't feel like opening my checkbook".
chente
04-14-05, 10:22 PM
way to load 'em up
briank
04-14-05, 10:22 PM
:lol: fan sliding in to home plate....
FantasticVSDoom
04-14-05, 10:22 PM
Foulke should get down and kiss Tek's ass for that...
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 10:23 PM
Foulke should get down and kiss Tek's ass for that...
Full on, both lips.
briank
04-14-05, 10:23 PM
And the Mets sweep the Astros. some decent pitching from both sides this series.
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 10:25 PM
And the Mets sweep the Astros. some decent pitching from both sides this series.
Sure, with the exception of Mr. Met himself. Retirement is an option, Franco.
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 10:27 PM
Sure, with the exception of Mr. Met himself. Retirement is an option, Franco.
It's the only option.
wabio
04-14-05, 10:28 PM
Well, on the bright side, at least Foulke will be out of commision for the next week.
wabio
04-14-05, 10:29 PM
Thank god. No more Red Sox - Yankees for a while. These matchup are KILLING my fantasy numbers. :mad:
Straight. Bloody. Murder.
LorenzoL
04-14-05, 10:36 PM
Another win for the Blue Jays :banana:
Complete game for Doc and some clutch hitting resulted in a 2-1 win against Texas.
Applejack
04-14-05, 10:40 PM
Sure, with the exception of Mr. Met himself. Retirement is an option, Franco.
When you are a lefthander though, you don't have to retire until fifty.
To be fair, it wasn't like he was shelled or anything. He gave up a sac and a swinging bunt single. I'm glad he's your headache though instead of ours anymore :)
I remember when both he and Wheeler were on the Mets they both gave up an insane number of runs with inherited runners. Looks like some things just don't change.
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 10:42 PM
Is Damon retarded? Sheffield showed alot of class? He shoved a fan.
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 10:44 PM
Is Damon retarded? Sheffield showed alot of class? He shoved a fan.
vs. knocking the guy out?
The fan was a moron, Sheffield should've popped him and the guy who tossed the beer.
It's just another classless act by fans.
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 10:46 PM
Is Damon retarded? Sheffield showed alot of class? He shoved a fan.
:lol: I didn't get to see it until Baseball Tonight's endless replays. The guy was going after the ball, jerked his arm back, and caught Sheffield by accident. He was not taking a swing.
That said, people who reach over the stands for fair balls hit by the home team need to be dropped into a snake pit. As for Sheffield with the shove, leave the security to someone else, Creamy.
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 10:49 PM
vs. knocking the guy out?
The fan was a moron, Sheffield should've popped him and the guy who tossed the beer.
It's just another classless act by fans.
He shoved the guy. No excuse for that. Especially over possibly accidentaly brushing up against him.
And classless acts by fans? Wake me up when the swat team is sitting in foul territory.
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 10:53 PM
Fuck you, Joe Torre. "Someone came out of the stands and whacked him"??? :rolleyes:
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 10:54 PM
He shoved the guy. No excuse for that. Especially over possibly accidentaly brushing up against him.
And classless acts by fans? Wake me up when the swat team is sitting in foul territory.
Cause there was obviously an excuse for somebody to take a swipe at a player? That was a little more than brushing.
Yeah it was classlass act by the fans. Did I specify Boston fans? No. It was meant in general, so take a Midol.
Fans are getting too grabby and touchy for their own good. And it won't be to far off before we see a baseball, basketball player, etc pull one of these dopes out of their seat and really put a few a shots on them. Even worse than the Detroit/Indiana incident.
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 10:58 PM
Cause there was obviously an excuse for somebody to take a swipe at a player? That was a little more than brushing.
Yeah it was classlass act by the fans. Did I specify Boston fans? No. It was meant in general, so take a Midol.
Fans are getting too grabby and touchy for their own good. And it won't be to far off before we see a baseball, basketball player, etc pull one of these dopes out of their seat and really put a few a shots on them. Even worse than the Detroit/Indiana incident.
No, it wasnt anything more than brushing. If he really wanted to nail Sheffield, he certainly could have. You cant see much from the camera angles, but if the guy did touch Sheffield, it didnt seem intentional. Security was over there quick enough. He didnt need to shove the guy. He should be suspended.
TheNightFlier
04-14-05, 11:02 PM
No, it wasnt anything more than brushing. If he really wanted to nail Sheffield, he certainly could have. You cant see much from the camera angles, but if the guy did touch Sheffield, it didnt seem intentional. Security was over there quick enough. He didnt need to shove the guy. He should be suspended.
When a player comes that close to the stands you don't put your hands over and you especially don't touch them. On the replay the guy's hand wasn't even close to the ground, so going for the ball just sounds like a BS excuse. I'm not even a Yankee fan and I don't feel Sheffield should be suspended. That shove was a "brushing."
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 11:06 PM
Sheffield says the fan was going for the ball.
Jericho
04-14-05, 11:11 PM
Man, they seem to be blowing this way out of proportion again. Besides the fact the fan made contact with a ballplayer in the field of play, Sheffield just seem to try to push him away. Seems more like reflex action after getting touched. Because it didn't go further, I see no reason to make a big deal out of it. Fans shouldn't touch players while fielding, fans shouldn't go after fair balls, and players shouldn't hit fans. But in the heat of the moment, this was pretty much nothing.
chrisih8u
04-14-05, 11:13 PM
When a player comes that close to the stands you don't put your hands over and you especially don't touch them. On the replay the guy's hand wasn't even close to the ground, so going for the ball just sounds like a BS excuse. I'm not even a Yankee fan and I don't feel Sheffield should be suspended. That shove was a "brushing."
If Sheffield was touched, I dont think it was intentional. Either way, Sheffield should not have shoved the guy. He overreacted.
Mad Dawg
04-14-05, 11:14 PM
Man, they seem to be blowing this way out of proportion again. Besides the fact the fan made contact with a ballplayer in the field of play, Sheffield just seem to try to push him away. Seems more like reflex action after getting touched. Because it didn't go further, I see no reason to make a big deal out of it. Fans shouldn't touch players while fielding, fans shouldn't go after fair balls, and players shouldn't hit fans. But in the heat of the moment, this was pretty much nothing.
I agree that they are taking this way too far.
fumanstan
04-14-05, 11:17 PM
Watching the replay, it didn't look like the guy was going for the ball to me considering how his arm didn't even reach down to come near the ball at all. Whether it was an intentional swipe at Sheffield or not, i put more blame on the fan for reaching out and making contact with a player. I don't mind Sheffield's reaction for shoving the person back.
briank
04-14-05, 11:23 PM
I think the reports are making it more than it is/was.
Just because its the Yankees - Boston, it's getting more coverage.
I don't think the fan was thinking much. Initially while the ball was coming (well before it got near him, and other fans to his far left down the line were reaching over) he was getting ready to reach over as well.
Then Sheffield comes towards the wall, and at the same time the ball isn't "bouncing" anymore and clearly would have been out of his reach.
So the guy pulls back a little but still makes a "reaching" motion that was far from a reach for the ball, and even FURTHER from a "swipe"/punch at Sheffield.
The fan shouldn't have even had his arm over the fence, simply said, but not the greatest sin in the world either. I can't imagine he was taking a swipe at Gary.
Then comes Sheffields reaction, which I also don't think was so far out there. He gets "bumped"/"brushed" by a fan and has a quick knee-jerk reaction and turns and shoves him back.
Again just like the fan not being appropriate, neither was Sheffield's reaction, but again not "that big of deal" in my mind.
Think the reports are just taking it to a silly level.
Flashback
04-14-05, 11:24 PM
Fuck you, Joe Torre. "Someone came out of the stands and whacked him"??? :rolleyes:
:lol: That was a damn funny response by Torre. Guy came out of the stands and whacked him ... what is this friggin Goodfellas? I love watching both sides of this YES = guy purposely punched him - NESN = accidently clipped him. Now we just need the guys story tomorrow.
In the end, minor.
Al Padrino
04-14-05, 11:27 PM
Why is a fan reaching INTO the field of playing justified? Fans have no right interjecting themselves into the game. And from another perspective, why would a fan reach into the field of play and possibly mess things up for the team he likes? What an ass.
chrisih8u
04-15-05, 12:07 AM
Why is a fan reaching INTO the field of playing justified? Fans have no right interjecting themselves into the game. And from another perspective, why would a fan reach into the field of play and possibly mess things up for the team he likes? What an ass.
Its not justified. But neither is shoving the guy. Do your job and throw the ball in, and let security do theirs.
Rogue588
04-15-05, 12:28 AM
Yeah, that was an inadvertent swipe..
Just like the tossed beer was inadvertent too :rolleyes:
Plain and simple, take the revenue from the Monster seats and build a bigger wall. Two feet obviously isn't big enough.
welb25
04-15-05, 12:52 AM
There is no way Sheffield will be suspended for that. Whether the swipe to the face was intentional or not, that was a natural reaction by Sheffield who got hit in the face while fielding a ball, lol. Artest was out of line, Sheffield was not.
coladar
04-15-05, 01:04 AM
Just got back from the Nat's home opener. Great game, had an excellent seat. Hernandez did extremely well until the 9th. Castilla was amazing, aside from the asshole pitcher that hit him with the ball his next turn at the bat after the homer. And hey, screw that old Senators saying. First in war, first in peace, first in the National East. Has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
Deftones
04-15-05, 01:06 AM
:mad: Cormier, you butthole. Castilla is a single from the cycle, and Cormier drills him. -ohbfrank-
Screw him. They won. He didn't need to hit for the cycle. :lol:
Al Padrino
04-15-05, 01:08 AM
Do your job and throw the ball in
He did. That's what made the whole sequence so awesome. He got his shove in and THEN threw the ball in without missing a beat.
raven56706
04-15-05, 08:22 AM
Its not justified. But neither is shoving the guy. Do your job and throw the ball in, and let security do theirs.
Security would have done nothing if sheff didnt react. its ok. Your a boston fan. I bet if it happened in NY, you boston fans would wet your panties about killing a NY fan
chrisih8u
04-15-05, 08:30 AM
He did. That's what made the whole sequence so awesome. He got his shove in and THEN threw the ball in without missing a beat.
Yeah, he shoved the fan and then threw the ball in. Maybe if did what he was supposed to do he could have gotten David Ortiz out at the plate or Varitek out at 3rd.
chrisih8u
04-15-05, 08:33 AM
Security would have done nothing if sheff didnt react. its ok. Your a boston fan. I bet if it happened in NY, you boston fans would wet your panties about killing a NY fan
He could have waved security over if they werent already heading over there. If Sheffield wasnt such a dickhead, this all could have been avoided.
And if a member of the Red Sox took a shot at a Yankee fan for no reason? Yeah, I would call him on it.
raven56706
04-15-05, 08:43 AM
He could have waved security over if they werent already heading over there. If Sheffield wasnt such a dickhead, this all could have been avoided.
And if a member of the Red Sox took a shot at a Yankee fan for no reason? Yeah, I would call him on it.
Sheffield is a dickhead for defending himself. Spoken like a true red sox fan. Listen, the red sox fan did that to obscure his play and not for nothing he ended taking a swipe on him. If i was him, i would have beat the shit out of him. But of course i should just let security take care of it. Yeah why not. They would have done nothing if Sheff didnt react. You are kidding me.
nevermind
04-15-05, 08:46 AM
Sheffield is a dickhead for defending himself. Spoken like a true red sox fan. Listen, the red sox fan did that to obscure his play and not for nothing he ended taking a swipe on him. If i was him, i would have beat the shit out of him. But of course i should just let security take care of it. Yeah why not. They would have done nothing if Sheff didnt react. You are kidding me.
You must be mad. Your post is lacking something.
chrisih8u
04-15-05, 08:46 AM
Sheffield is a dickhead for defending himself. Spoken like a true red sox fan. Listen, the red sox fan did that to obscure his play and not for nothing he ended taking a swipe on him. If i was him, i would have beat the shit out of him. But of course i should just let security take care of it. Yeah why not. They would have done nothing if Sheff didnt react. You are kidding me.
Defending himself??? rotfl
The guy was doing nothing when Sheffield hit him.
raven56706
04-15-05, 08:54 AM
So you mean to tell me that the guy had to literally go all Ron Artest on him for him to actually justify defending himself.
You should have not put your hands there or hit the players face. Tell me if the fans have every right doing that.
chrisih8u
04-15-05, 08:56 AM
So you mean to tell me that the guy had to literally go all Ron Artest on him for him to actually justify defending himself.
You should have not put your hands there or hit the players face. Tell me if the fans have every right doing that.
No, he doesnt have the right to interfere. He should have been ejected. (and he was) But that does not give Sheffield the right to attack him.
raven56706
04-15-05, 09:00 AM
Excuse me but be serious, the guy would have not been eject because all the other fans did the same thing and i didnt see one boston security guard do something. This one being the moron did it and thought he would get away with it until a player gets hit.
chrisih8u
04-15-05, 09:04 AM
Excuse me but be serious, the guy would have not been eject because all the other fans did the same thing and i didnt see one boston security guard do something. This one being the moron did it and thought he would get away with it until a player gets hit.
Security was there in 2 seconds! They arent going to eject people for trying and failing to interfere. That sort of thing happens all the time.
raven56706
04-15-05, 09:06 AM
Security was there in two seconds after sheff did something.... look at the tape. after the guy hit him, i didnt see boston security there.
Look at the tape again please
chrisih8u
04-15-05, 09:07 AM
WTF? Sheff did something immediatley. How much quicker could they have gotten there? And how does it excuse Sheffield for attacking him?
raven56706
04-15-05, 09:20 AM
its ok man.... we can go back and forth.... look at your other thread and i am not the only one
namrfumot
04-15-05, 09:34 AM
When I used to teach elementary school I always asked the kids "What do you do if someone puts their hands on you?" And they'd say "Tell a teacher, don't hit them back" - because theyd now be in trouble as well.
I see that as a good analogy here - both wrong - both idiots.
Richard Malloy
04-15-05, 09:43 AM
Yeah, that was an inadvertent swipe..
Just like the tossed beer was inadvertent too :rolleyes:
No beer was tossed. When Sheffield took a swing at the fan, he (fortunately) missed and clocked that woman's beer.
The fan should've been ejected for interference (as he was), and perhaps Varitek should have been made to go back to second base (I mean, touching a player counts as interference, no?). The league should look the other way regarding Sheffield's reaction as fortunately no one was hurt, and his reflex was understandable. Maybe he should've been made to buy that woman a new beer, as she was merely a bystander.
raven56706
04-15-05, 09:44 AM
Yeah. Tell a grown man that.
Its ok. let it happen to you in the streets, lets see if you will go to a cop and tell on him
namrfumot
04-15-05, 09:46 AM
Maybe I'm a ***** then, but if some stranger forcefully bumped into me on the street, I sure as shit wouldn't turn around and clock him in the face.
Rockmjd23
04-15-05, 09:49 AM
Maybe I'm a ***** then, but if some stranger forcefully bumped into me on the street, I sure as shit wouldn't turn around and clock him in the face.
I doubt anyone on this board would either. We'd be stunned and probably angry but those who say they would open a can of whoopass right away are just being overly macho.
raven56706
04-15-05, 09:56 AM
So if they forcefully hit you, you would have a conversation and hold aa discussion group as to why.....
you keep on saying the magical word, forcefully.
Mad Dawg
04-15-05, 09:58 AM
Of course, being on the street and being in a ballpark are two totally different things. Players and fans are expected to leave each other alone, but when one doesn't, the other isn't granted a a beatdown license, nor a shoving license in this case.
I appreciate the fact that this was some sort of natural reaction from Sheffield. I don't particularly agree, as he is not the first player to be screwed with while fielding a ball up against a wall, and I don't recall a multitude of fan shovings taking place. But fine. Let him be. But to view that tape and claim that the fan was intentionally taking a malicious shot at Sheffield is somewhat humorous. He got his arm out there, made contact, got a shove, got ejected, situation over.
raven56706
04-15-05, 10:01 AM
You know who deserves the beat down, A rod. Man, he can never come through with a clutch play.
Rockmjd23
04-15-05, 10:07 AM
So if they forcefully hit you, you would have a conversation and hold aa discussion group as to why.....
you keep on saying the magical word, forcefully.
I didn't see anything done forcefully last night. I don't think any contact was even made. Perhaps if someone on the street came up to me and forcefully swiped me in the face, I'd defend myself accordingly. But if someone waves his arm in front of me while looking in the opposite direction, I don't think I would punch him.
Elldubtoo
04-15-05, 10:44 AM
You know who deserves the beat down, A rod. Man, he can never come through with a clutch play.
...
A-Rod is the Patrick Ewing of baseball. Wake me up when he makes a clutch play.
raven56706
04-15-05, 10:49 AM
rotfl
welb25
04-15-05, 10:54 AM
He hasn't made a clutch play since games 2 and 4 of the ALDS against the Twins last year. He was probably their best player in that series but since then he's made some clutch errors for the Red Sox but that's it.
FantasticVSDoom
04-15-05, 10:56 AM
Making fun of Arod...Bringing Redsox and Yankees together one fan at a time. Who said that A-rod isnt doing something good for the world.
Rogue588
04-15-05, 11:19 AM
No beer was tossed. When Sheffield took a swing at the fan, he (fortunately) missed and clocked that woman's beer.Umm....look over at the guy on the lady's right-hand side to see the tossed beer. Hers was spilled.
raven56706
04-15-05, 11:21 AM
if i was the fan and my beer was tossed because of another fan, i would have started a riot
welb25
04-15-05, 11:22 AM
Here's a clutch play A-Rod made on the off day in Boston.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/04/15/no_error_on_newbury_st_a_rod_saves_boy_from_truck/
raven56706
04-15-05, 11:27 AM
Awesome to hear that.... i forgive him for leaving men on base...
Dabaomb
04-15-05, 11:43 AM
Here's a clutch play A-Rod made on the off day in Boston.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/04/15/no_error_on_newbury_st_a_rod_saves_boy_from_truck/
yeah, I just read this as well. For all you A-Rod haters this proves that A-Rod is a human being. Although Red Sox fans will probably say something like the kid should've gotten hit cuz he's an A-Rod fan.
BOSTON -- Alex Rodriguez saved an 8-year-old boy from serious injury when he prevented the youngster from getting hit by a truck.
The New York Yankees star said Thursday he was standing in a crosswalk on Newbury Street near downtown Boston at about 3:30 p.m. Tuesday when he saw the boy starting to run across the street into the path of an onrushing truck.
Rodriguez reached out and grabbed the boy, pulling him back and preventing a serious accident.
"The kid was going to get run over. I just kind of put my arm out and stopped him," he said.
It turns out the boy, named Patrick McCarthy, was already a fan of A-Rod.
"This guy just put his hand in front of me and stopped me. ... He said 'Whoa, watch out, buddy,' " McCarthy said in a television interview Thursday. "I was like, 'Wow! Like I was shocked, because he's my favorite player on the Yankees."
Rodriguez said he also had to hurry to avoid being hit by the truck -- "I almost got it, too," he said -- which he estimated was traveling 40-50 mph when he saw the boy starting to run from the sidewalk.
He said McCarthy's mother saw what happened, but he didn't see the boy's father nearby.
"I did it and I just kept walking," Rodriguez said. "I don't even know if she knew who I was."
Tuesday was a day off in the middle of New York's three-game series against the Red Sox that ended Thursday night with Boston's 8-5 win.
Rodriguez said the boy would have been seriously injured or killed had he gotten past him.
"That was a train wreck waiting to happen," he said.
Rodriguez has often been booed at Fenway since he joined the Yankees last season. Teammate Derek Jeter didn't think Rodriguez's heroic act would make Red Sox fans like him any more.
"They didn't sound any different today," Jeter said.
Richard Malloy
04-15-05, 11:47 AM
Umm....look over at the guy on the lady's right-hand side to see the tossed beer. Hers was spilled.
The guy in the GAP shirt? Perhaps it was his beer that got spilled rather than the woman's, but look at every single photo and it's obvious that no one threw the beer...
Front page of espn.com http://espn.go.com/
And check out photos 1 and 2 from this gallery: http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/gallery/04_15_05_sheffield
It's a shame this had to happen, but let's not pretend it was any worse than it was. It's just fortunate that Sheffield's swing, his entirely understandable reaction, didn't land on either the fan who interfered or the woman who got in the way, as that would have made an unfortunate occurence into something as terrible as the recent NBA fracas.
Specious claims like yours are only meant to inflame, to escalate the hostilitites, to make things even worse between two fanbases that should really be concentrating on keeping the few yahoos from fucking it up for the rest of us.
Rogue588
04-15-05, 11:53 AM
No. Not the GAP shirt, the guy in the grey sweatshirt.
And, perhaps you should actually try watching the footage before commenting..
Richard Malloy
04-15-05, 11:56 AM
No. Not the GAP shirt, the guy in the grey sweatshirt.
And, perhaps you should actually try watching the footage before commenting..
I watched the footage, over and over, on a Hi-Def feed on a 54" screen. Besides, the pictures I linked to clearly show that YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT.
In that other thread, you actually said that Sheffield didn't take a swing at the fan. (I'm not shitting, check it out: http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5980794&postcount=50 )
Are you blind, or just blinded by hatred? I really hope you (and the idiot who interfered last night) stay out of the ballparks. This is becoming a serious problem, and those of us who love the game are getting sick of you yahoos constantly trying to inflame the hostilities between two fanbases that really should have a good deal more respect for one another.
welb25
04-15-05, 11:59 AM
I watched the footage, over and over, on a Hi-Def feed on a 54" screen. Beside, the pictures I linked to clearly show that YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT.
In that other thread, you actually said that Sheffield didn't take a swing at the fan. Are you blind, or just blinded by hatred? I really hope you (and the idiot who interfered last night) stay out of the ballparks. This is becoming a serious problem, and those of us who love the game are getting sick of you yahoos constantly trying to inflame the hostilities between two fanbases that really should have a good deal more respect for one another.
I think we are all maybe getting a little to worked up over this. Yes, Rogue588, you should not be allowed in ballparks because you disagree with him. :lol:
Rogue588
04-15-05, 12:00 PM
:lol:
too funny.
I guess my definition of "swing" is different than yours. He "pushed" the fan back [similar to what 'tek did to A-Rod last year], fielded the ball and then went back with clenched fists but didn't do anything...
Let's not try to rewrite the event....or recap the 2.5 seconds we saw on Sportscenter, mmmkay.
Richard Malloy
04-15-05, 01:47 PM
I'm not trying to rewrite the event, and you'll notice that I haven't faulted Sheffield for anything, having expressed over and over that his reaction was entirely reasonable and that the league should look the other way. Punch, shove? Doesn't really matter, as the blow didn't land and Gary got himself together quick, security removed the interfering fan, and the Red Sox won the game.
So, it's 3-3, baby, in the only matchup that matters! See you in May. :hump:
Rogue588
04-15-05, 01:56 PM
psst...see my post in the other thread :p
Richard Malloy
04-15-05, 02:09 PM
Saw it... I think that's a fair assessment! :thumbsup:
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