Im hoping i cant get home from work in time to see some of the Liverpool match :)
wildcatlh
04-05-05, 03:19 PM
Liverpool just looking spectacular here... 2-0 'Pool 33 minutes in. Should be 2-1 but Scott Carson pulled off one of the better saves I've ever seen
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-05-05, 03:20 PM
Andy and I having Fun, Liverpool and Garcia in Particular playing a blinder in the 1st half.
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-05-05, 04:17 PM
Platini and Houllier sitting in the stands.
Liverpool 2 - 1 Juventus
Cannavaro for Juve in the 61'
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-05-05, 04:41 PM
Full Time
Liverpool 2-1 Juventus
Both teams I would think happy at the result, Juve with an away goal, will try and sneak a 1-0 next wed, but Liverpool got a better than expected goal haul...
And I'd be not at all surprised to see liverpool score 1 or 2 goals in Turin.
PSV 1-1 Lyon
astrochimp
04-05-05, 05:39 PM
I didnt make it home in time to see but least tomorrow i can see the AC Milan/Inter and the Chelsea/Bayern Munich matches albeit on tape delay but should be good.
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-05-05, 06:25 PM
Work from home day for me today :)
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-06-05, 03:33 PM
Today..
Half Time Results.
Chelsea 1-0 Bayern
Joe Cole scores in the 4th min.
AC Mil 1 - 0 Int Milan
Stam Scores in injury Time
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-06-05, 05:07 PM
Scores on the Doors
Chelsea 4-2 Bayern
AC Mil 2 - 0 Int Milan
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astrochimp
04-06-05, 09:26 PM
Just finished watching the Chelsea/Bayern match.Great game especially the 2nd half :D Hopefully that bogus PK called at the end wont cost Chelsea.
LaxBandit
04-07-05, 03:13 PM
TV-Quarterfinals Leg 2-on ESPN2
Tuesday, April 12-2:30 pm ET-LIVE-ESPN2
FC Internazionale Milan vrs AC Milan
Wednesday, April 12-2:30 pm ET-LIVE-ESPN2
Juventus FC vrs Liverpool
No coverage planned on ESPN2 for Bayern Munich vrs Chelsea.
GO AC MILAN!
LB...
LaxBandit
04-07-05, 07:57 PM
TV-Quarterfinals Leg 2-on ESPN2
Tuesday, April 12-2:30 pm ET-LIVE-ESPN2
FC Internazionale Milan vrs AC Milan
Wednesday, April 12-2:30 pm ET-LIVE-ESPN2
Juventus FC vrs Liverpool
No coverage planned on ESPN2 for Bayern Munich vrs Chelsea.
GO AC MILAN!
LB...
Update: ESPN2 will now be airing the Bayern Munich-Chelsea game LIVE on Tuesday, April 12 at 2:30 pm ET instead of the FC Internazionale Milan-AC Milan game. There is no tape delay showing scheduled (like what happened this week) of the FC Internazionale Milan-AC Milan game at this time.
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-11-05, 01:14 AM
Another work from home day on Wednesday then :)
astrochimp
04-11-05, 10:37 PM
TSN here in Canada is showing the Bayern Munich/Chelsea match at 2:30 pm and the Inter/AC match taped at midnight(est).
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-12-05, 07:06 PM
Good Fuck, it does not look good for liverpool tomorrow in Turin.
Have you seen what happened in the Milan game?
and check this out.
http://www.bdbfc.com/pics/cisse.jpg
oh yeah!@
astrochimp
04-12-05, 07:38 PM
Sucks working for a livin' and being in the wrong timezone but happy to hear about Chelsea and hope Cisse will give 'pool the extra boost to get past Juve.
eXcentris
04-12-05, 11:17 PM
Good Fuck, it does not look good for liverpool tomorrow in Turin.
Have you seen what happened in the Milan game?
Yup! Bloody disgrace... And it doesn't look good for Juve - Liverpool indeed. -eek-
I can see why Inter Milan fans were upset but their reaction was really shameful. Another black eye for football.
wildcatlh
04-13-05, 12:08 PM
Inter need to be banned from European play next year. Hell, I'd consider banning all Italian teams from Europe for a year. The Italian FA have let the Ultra groups do whatever the hell they want for a very long time with absolutely no consequences. It's at the point where the police won't go into the areas where the Ultras sit (and where this crap starts) for fear of their own lives. And it's not just Milan where this is happening (see: The incident at AS Roma in the group stage of the CL where a ref was injured by a coin thrown from the stands, and last weekend at Lazio where large sections of the crowd (the Ultra sections) were displaying Nazi swastikas and other fascist BS (which is illegal in Italy)).
B.A.
04-13-05, 12:22 PM
Yup! Bloody disgrace...I just heard about the flare incident at the match - how fucking stupid are some of these idiots? Damn shame when a few assholes ruin something for the rest of the crowd.
wildcatlh
04-13-05, 01:37 PM
re: Inter, from an article in the Guardian..
One very senior Uefa figure revealed: "My guess is that Internazionale are close to being expelled from next season's competition and will need some very powerful mitigating factors to avoid such a ban."
:up:, but they need to follow through
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-13-05, 02:37 PM
Got my liverpool shirt on, go on the reds.
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-13-05, 04:45 PM
And here we go..
Liverpool get a 0-0 draw in Turin and go on to Play chelsea in the Semis.
PSV and Lyon are playing Extra Time
zeppelin
04-13-05, 05:17 PM
120
mins
FULL TIME EXTRA TIME: Penalties! Penalties! Penalties! Stay here with me, and prepare to wet your pants with excitement.
120
mins
Penalties are the new rock and roll. Except without the drugs, attractive groupies, mental breakdowns, trashed hotel rooms, public affection, ability to change the world and Bob Dylan.
wildcatlh
04-13-05, 05:44 PM
I had to really try not to bust out screaming in happiness when Liverpool-Juve went to full time.
The best thing is we get to be the ones to take Chelski, their pompous ass of a manager, their russian mob boss owner and their half-billion dollar roster out of the CL. Man, that's gonna be sweet. I hope Xabi shows that fat prick Lampard a thing or two as revenge for Lampard breaking his leg... shake the fat man out of his boots and create some goals.
astrochimp
04-13-05, 06:06 PM
I dont see Liverpool taking out Chelsea as much as i wouldnt mind but its gonna be a tough task thats for sure,then again who would have though Pool'd be in the Uefa semis this year ;) Least there will be an English team in the finals no matter what :D
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-13-05, 06:21 PM
Honestly I'd be very suprised to see Liverpool beat by Chelsea over 2 legs, esp with Anfield for the 2nd leg.
I really think they'll go on and win it all now, like when we won the waffa cup with Houllier.
Full of confidence I am.
wildcatlh
04-13-05, 06:33 PM
I don't think I've ever wanted Liverpool to beat anyone more than I want them to beat Chelski. It's going to be a fecking blast.
My one worry, of course, is that we're going to be tired as hell which will kill our league chances. Of course, it would be beautiful if Everton finished above us... but we won the Champions League and took their CL spot. :) (and am I the only one that assumes that Everton 2005 = Ipswich 2001?)
RayChuang
04-14-05, 12:32 AM
I can see why Inter Milan fans were upset but their reaction was really shameful. Another black eye for football.
That debacle at the Inter Milan-AC Milan game was not only front page news in Europe, but it was seriously discussed here in the USA, of all things! I hate to say this, but if UEFA wants to cut down on this type of violence they may have to institute strict security screening with metal detectors and body searches at all games to stop the type of hooliganism that in the past has led to large-scale tragedies. :(
Red Dog
04-14-05, 10:18 AM
Yup! Bloody disgrace... And it doesn't look good for Juve - Liverpool indeed. -eek-
I couldn't care less about soccer, but they showed this on PTI (first item) yesterday, and I was floored. The goalie got him in the shoulder with a fucking flare! -eek- Unbelievable.
LorenzoL
04-14-05, 11:40 AM
Do we know when they will be handing out punishment to Inter Milan for their fan's actions?
wildcatlh
04-14-05, 02:53 PM
UEFA is meeting tomorrow afternoon (or tomorrow morning on this side of the Atlantic) to decide on Inter's punishment.
Given the fact that UEFA decisions take into account the previous 5 years, and that Inter was already punished in 2001 for similar crowd trouble (were given a fine and had to play 3 games behind closed doors), I'd be floored if they didn't get a 1-year ban from playing in European competition. Of course, UEFA seem to be wildly inconsistent with their punishment scheme, so they might get off easy)
LorenzoL
04-14-05, 04:27 PM
UEFA is meeting tomorrow afternoon (or tomorrow morning on this side of the Atlantic) to decide on Inter's punishment.
Given the fact that UEFA decisions take into account the previous 5 years, and that Inter was already punished in 2001 for similar crowd trouble (were given a fine and had to play 3 games behind closed doors), I'd be floored if they didn't get a 1-year ban from playing in European competition. Of course, UEFA seem to be wildly inconsistent with their punishment scheme, so they might get off easy)
Thanks.
wendersfan
04-15-05, 08:23 AM
Interesting:
<a href = "http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SPORT/football/04/15/inter.damages.reut/"><b>Inter Milan seek damages from fan</b></a>
Friday, April 15, 2005 Posted: 1120 GMT (1920 HKT)
MILAN, Italy (Reuters) -- Inter Milan are seeking damages from a fan arrested by Italian police after the abandonment of their Champions League quarterfinal against AC Milan.
The fan, who Italian police have identified as Michele P, faces charges relating to the throwing of flares and other missiles on to the pitch during Tuesday's second leg.
Inter could be handed a heavy fine and a ban from playing home games at their San Siro stadium when UEFA's disciplinary body meet to discuss the incidents.
Public prosecutor Fabio Roia told the Italian news agency ANSA that Inter had made a formal written claim for damages.
"I consider this a very important signal. It means that the club is distancing itself from its fans," said Roia.
He said that he believed this was the first time an Italian club had positioned itself as the 'injured party' in a case involving crowd trouble.
Inter will suffer heavy financial losses if they are forced to play Champions League games behind closed doors.
ANSA also reported that Franco Caravita, who they called 'one of the leaders of the Inter home end', had been ordered to appear before the Milan public prosecutor's office as part of an investigation into Tuesday's events.
Inter, 2-0 down from the first leg, were trailing 1-0 when the second leg was abandoned after 73 minutes.
The derby was the second time this season that a Champions League game in Italy failed to finish due to crowd trouble, following similar events at AS Roma's game with Dynamo Kiev in September.
Tough crackdown
In response to calls by Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi for "drastic measures", Italian soccer officials announced a tough crackdown on missile-throwing.
Exercising special powers, Italian Football Federation (FIGC) president Franco Carraro said referees could suspend, or not even start, a match in which missiles were thrown, flares lit or any banners waved that could cause offense.
A game that was subsequently abandoned would be awarded as a 3-0 defeat for the team whose fans were deemed responsible for the trouble, Carraro said, invoking an existing federation rule.
But that plan was met with strong criticizm from those in the game who think it would be unworkable and could backfire, encouraging fans to interrupt matches with missile-throwing.
"It gives a free hand to the delinquents, they are the ones who should be punished not the clubs who are the victims of these actions," said Palermo president Maurizio Zamparini, who is also vice-president of the Italian football league.
"Carraro's decision was rushed and done to show that the federation is doing something."
Brescia president Gino Corioni said: "Every team has a group of crazy fans who know how to harm a club and that is actually their intention. Carraro's decision is madness."
A spokesman for Italy's police officer's trade union was also critical.
"It would increase the risk for the police. It is the clubs that should provide private security inside their stadiums during the week," he said.
LorenzoL
04-15-05, 08:25 AM
How can fans bring flares into a stadium and then when something like this happens, the club reacts as if they are innocent?
No sympathy at all.
wendersfan
04-15-05, 10:08 AM
How can fans bring flares into a stadium and then when something like this happens, the club reacts as if they are innocent?
No sympathy at all.I agree. This sort of shit has been going on for far too long, and the clubs have just turned their heads. As an Inter supporter I'm especially troubled by all this.
BadlyDrawnBoy
04-15-05, 12:56 PM
Pretty tame punishment, 4 European matches behind closed doors.
Costs them money for sure. but not a tough punishment.
Vialli was on tv saying that Italian football needs a kick in the ass, as this happens all the time.
LorenzoL
04-15-05, 01:05 PM
Pretty tame punishment, 4 European matches behind closed doors.
Costs them money for sure. but not a tough punishment.
Vialli was on tv saying that Italian football needs a kick in the ass, as this happens all the time.
That's not even a slap on the wrist. With that kind of feeble punishment, it gives more incentive to idiotic fans to do the same thing elsewhere.
I guess its 6 matches .. 2 are on probation. and on revenue of 2.5M per match, its a min of 10M loss of revenue and up to 15M. Hits the club pretty hard. But yes I agree a slap on the wrist
Stadium ban and fine for Inter
Friday, 15 April 2005
UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body has ordered FC Internazionale Milano to play their next six European club competition matches behind closed doors as a result of the disturbances at the abandoned UEFA Champions League quarter-final second leg against AC Milan on Tuesday.
Probationary period
European football's governing body said after its disciplinary body had met in Nyon, Switzerland on Friday that of these six matches, the last two are under a probationary period of three years according to Article 15 bis of the disciplinary regulations.
'Original sanction to be executed'
"This means that if a further offence is committed during the probationary period, the disciplinary body may order the original sanction to be executed, in addition to disciplinary sanctions for the second offence," UEFA stated. In addition, Inter have been fined CHF 300,000.
Forfeit win
The quarter-final second leg has been awarded to Milan as a 3-0 forfeit and Milan therefore go through to the semi-finals on a 5-0 aggregate. An appeal against any of these decisions can be submitted within three days from the receipt of the written grounds.
'Sending out a message'
"The decision taken by the Control and Disciplinary Body sends out a message to all those in football and football fans that this kind of behaviour at European matches under UEFA jurisdiction is something that will not be tolerated," UEFA spokesman Rob Faulkner told uefa.com after the verdict had been announced.
'Not good enough'
"The scenes that we saw on Tuesday which led to the interruption of the match due to fans' misbehaviour is not the kind of thing that UEFA wants to see," he added.
Missiles thrown
Tuesday night's game at the Giuseppe Meazza was abandoned in the 75th minute after missiles were thrown on to the pitch, with one striking Milan goalkeeper Dida. Milan, who won the first leg 2-0 last week, had scored a 30th-minute goal through Andriy Shevchenko to increase their aggregate lead, but shortly after Nerazzurri midfield player Esteban Cambiasso had a goal disallowed, German referee Markus Merk decided to suspend the match and take both sets of players off the field and into the dressing rooms.
Match abandoned
An attempt to resume the game was made. But within seconds, further objects landed on the pitch and the referee immediately abandoned the match.
wendersfan
04-15-05, 01:19 PM
How many fans were killed at Heysel? That resulted in ALL English clubs banned from Europe for <i>half a decade</i>. Maybe if UEFA banned Italian clubs from Europe for a single season this shit would stop. I know this isn't remotely in the same league as the Heysel tragedy, but look how English football turned itself around in the 90s. Nobody thought that it could happen, and now look at the state of the English game, how rich and competitive so many of the clubs have become.
wildcatlh
04-15-05, 01:50 PM
39 people were killed at Heysel, through the fault of thugs on both sides of the ball and the stadium itself (as well as UEFA for holding the final there, since everyone was screaming at them that it wasn't safe).
Liverpool were banned from Europe for 7 years after that tragedy, and the rest of the English clubs were banned for 5 years. And you're right. UEFA apparently has decided that they're not going to do anything until someone dies. And unfortunately, it's inevitable that's going to happen at an Italian match. Over the last 20 years since Heysel, the English FA (and their government) have done as much as possible to try to rein in the hooligans so that kind of scene never happens again. The Italian FA has chosen to ignore it, and it's gotten worse and worse in Italy.
(on a not-remotely-connected to hooliganism note but still a sad one for one of the remaining clubs, today's the 16th anniversary of 96 Liverpool fans dying at Hillsborough before an FA Cup Semi-Final match against Nottingham Forest. See http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/index.shtm)
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