The Masters, April 7-10

[Red Dog]

Thursday, April 7
4:00 - 7:00 p.m. Live coverage USA Network, CBSHD
8:00 - 11:00 p.m. Replay of the first day telecast USA Network
11:30 - 11:45 p.m. Highlights Show CBS-TV

Friday, April 8
4:00 - 7:00 p.m. Live coverage USA Network, CBSHD
8:00 - 11:00 p.m. Replay of the first day telecast USA Network
11:30 - 11:45 p.m. Highlights Show CBS-TV

Saturday, April 9
3:30 - 7:00 p.m. Live Coverage CBS-TV (HD)

Sunday, April 10
2:30 - 7:00 p.m. Live Coverage CBS-TV (HD)

[Red Dog]

Adam Scott 22-1
Angel Cabrera 100-1
Ben Curtis 500-1
Chad Campbell 100-1
Charles Howell III 50-1
Chris DiMarco 50-1
Chris Riley 200-1
Darren Clarke 40-1
David Duval 400-1
David Toms 30-1
Davis Love III 30-1
Ernie Els 7-1
Field (All Other Golfers) 10-1
Fred Couples 60-1
Fred Funk 125-1
Fredrik Jacobson 150-1
Jay Haas 150-1
Jerry Kelly 100-1
Jim Furyk 50-1
John Daly 100-1
Jose Maria Olazabal 40-1
Justin Leonard 80-1
KJ Choi 45-1
Kenny Perry 75-1
Lee Westwood 100-1
Luke Donald 40-1
Miguel Angel Jimenez 100-1
Mike Weir 28-1
Nick Price 150-1
Padraig Harrington 25-1
Paul Casey 125-1
Peter Lonard 125-1
Phil Mickelson 9-2
Retief Goosen 15-1
Robert Allenby 100-1
Ryan Moore 300-1
Scott Verplank 100-1
Sergio Garcia 30-1
Shigeki Maruyama 80-1
Stephen Ames 125-1
Stewart Cink 40-1
Stuart Appleby 100-1
Thomas Bjorn 125-1
Tiger Woods 7-2
Todd Hamilton 200-1
Tom Lehman 75-1
Vijay Singh 7-1
Zach Johnson 55-1

[twikoff]

best odds on tiger?

[Red Dog]

best odds on tiger?


Why not. He is #1 in the world, just beat Phil head's up, and Augusta is his dream course.

Of course I would never take him at 7-2. That's ridiculous.

[Quake1028]

Why not. He is #1 in the world, just beat Phil head's up, and Augusta is his dream course.

Of course I would never take him at 7-2. That's ridiculous.

Didn't Vijay take #1 back?

[Red Dog]

Didn't Vijay take #1 back?


My bad. You're right. Vijay must have taken it back since Doral.

1. Singh 12.20
2. Woods 11.63
3. Els 11.07
4. Mickelson 9.56
5. Goosen 7.34

[brizz]

Yeah...Vijay took it back a couple of weekends ago...by finishing 2nd (after hitting his approach in the water on the 18th no less)

[Luddy]

Retief Goosen 15-1

[Red Dog]

Retief Goosen 15-1


Yeah. I was thinking of that one too. It's good value when you compare him to Woods, Singh, Manboobs, and Els.

[Luddy]

KC Choi at 45-1
Field (All Other Golfers) 10-1

[Luddy]

Jack Nicklaus WILL compete in The Masters this year. Good for him.

[Maxwell Smart]

I heard that Jasper Pernavik guy forgot his clubs :lol:

[Red Dog]

Jack Nicklaus WILL compete in The Masters this year. Good for him.


:thumbsup:

[Tommy Ceez]

No woman members? THATS AN OUTRAGE!!! Call the NYT!

Really died out, didnt it?

[Red Dog]

Really died out, didnt it?


Yeah and it sucks. There will be commericals this year.

[wendersfan]

I heard that Jasper Pernavik guy forgot his clubs :lol:Yeah, he called up Tiger and Woods stopped by Parnevik's garage and picked 'em up on his way...

I'm picking Goosen to win, BTW.

[wendersfan]

<a href = "http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/general/story.jsp?story=626328"><b>Golf: Masters ball is still a possibility for the future</a></b>

By Peter Hutcheon
phutcheon@belfasttelegraph.co.uk
04 April 2005

Hootie Johnson has had enough.

After several years of lengthening the Augusta National Course it will stay at 7,290 yards.

But if technology continues to increase the distance players hit their drives, he will introduce a special Masters ball for the tournament in the future.

And the plan has met with the approval of Jack Nichlaus who has been a long-time campaigner for restrictions to be placed on the golf ball.

"The Augusta National is just about the only place that's powerful enough to take that position, to say, `There's the golf ball, and you play it,'" he says.

"Definitely development of the ball has had as much of an impact on the game as the development of clubs and it's an area of the game which needs looked at."

A Masters ball with identical specifications for every player has been designed and although it won't be deployed this year, the threat now exists.

Johnson says if driving distances keep increasing making the course shrink, the committee will introduce it.

"The Augusta National will do what is necessary to protect the integrity of our golf course and the heritage of our tournament," he said.

Since last year's tournament the club have not altered the course save for re-grassing on the fourth and 15 greens.

Nichlaus is set to miss this year's tournament because of a recent family bereavement.

And another former champion, Seve Ballesteros, has bowed out because of a persistent knee injury but does plan to return to competitive golf later in the season.

The Master committee expect nine former champions who have been invited to play, to turn them down - a list which includes Arnold Palmer who bade an emotional farewell to the tournament last year.

Colin Montgomerie's late invitation did not materialise, to no-one's surprise. Recent good performances did not produce the necessary tournament victory to take him back into the world's top 50.

[Red Dog]

Bets are in:

Darren Clarke 45-1
Chris DiMarco 55-1
Miguel Angel Jimenez 80-1

[wendersfan]

I would love it if Jimenez won. The guy's got a great style, plus he loves cigars and espresso. :up:

[Red Dog]

I would love it if Jimenez won. The guy's got a great style, plus he loves cigars and espresso. :up:


The Spaniards have a good history at Augusta. I'm looking for the tradition to continue, from someone not named Garcia. ;)

Jimenez has been playing pretty well lately too. He's apparently getting some attention too - his odds were 100-1 yesterday.

[Red Dog]

Pairings
http://www.masters.org/en_US/scores/pairings/index.html

[Turd Ferguson]

I'm heading down to Augusta Friday morning to watch the weekend rounds with my college roommate who has patron badges. I went with another friend and saw the "Tiger Slam" in 2001. We sat about five feet behind the 12th tee box on Sunday during the final round. Augusta is about 5 times as beautiful as it looks on TV. If you get a chance, watch it on HDTV.

[twikoff]

the rain is coming!

[wendersfan]

Augusta is about 5 times as beautiful as it looks on TV. If you get a chance, watch it on HDTV.I've seen it in HD. :drool: :drool:

[B.A.]

I've seen it in HD. :drool: :drool:I haven't...yet. :D

[jasondaub]

David Toms 30.5/1
Paddy Harrington 30.5/1
Tim Clark 90/1

[Red Dog]

I've seen it in HD. :drool: :drool:



Can't wait for that.

[wendersfan]

Fropm the PGATour official site:

<b>ALERT: Due to inclement weather, tee times for the first round of The Masters have been pushed back to 9:35 a.m. ET.</b>

Oh great...

[Rockmjd23]

Fropm the PGATour official site:

<b>ALERT: Due to inclement weather, tee times for the first round of The Masters have been pushed back to 9:35 a.m. ET.</b>

Oh great...

Man it seems like every tournament this year has had weather issues.

[wendersfan]

Man it seems like every tournament this year has had weather issues.
Funny, the European Tour hasn't had troubles with weather, particularly in Dubai, and Qatar. :lol:

[RayChuang]

I think the PGA Tour just has a really bad run of luck this year in regards to weather. Of course, it didn't help that this spring has proved to be one of the wettest on record in the US Southeast, either.

Because of the rains that will pretty much wipe out play probably today and probably much of tomorrow, I wouldn't be surprised that they can't finish the Masters until Tuesday. As such, the course will play very differently than normal and that could benefit players who emphasize more on accuracy than driving distance.

By the way, I expect within the next 2-3 years that the PGA Tour and the Royal & Ancient Club at St. Andrews will agree on an international standard for a reference golf ball (probably made by Titleist) that will emphasize more accuracy than sheer driving power; this will negate the effect of the oversized drivers and high-tech irons that have made many golf courses obselete. (They're already talking about doing the same for tennis in order the negate the effect oversized rackets and the current generation of overstrong power serving players.)

[Red Dog]

Rain delays are nothing new at the Masters. 40 of the 69 Masters have had weather issues.

[Red Dog]

Currently, the plan is for a 12:30 two-tee start.

[Pharoh]

I'd really like to pick somebody such as Charles Howell, Mike Weir, or Justin Leonard, but with the expected wetness I am having trouble believing anyone other than one of the top four will win. I think we will see a repeat champ and go with manboobs.

[classicman2]

Since Augusta National is primarily a drive & putt show - I like the long hitters and streak putters. Therefore, Woods is not a bad bet.

[Red Dog]

Well the last time there was a Thursday wash-out was 2002 and Tiger won that one. In fact, the top-7 in 2002 included all of the current Big Five: Woods, Singh, Els, Manboobs, and Goose.

[wendersfan]

I think we will see a repeat champ and go with manboobs.(Shudder...)

I fear you may be correct, sadly.

[wendersfan]

Well, they're off! The first group started around 1:30 pm.

Billy Casper is +6 after two holes. Poor guy. Of course, Duval is about to start, so he could replace Casper at the bottom of the leaderboard. :lol:

[Luddy]

Since Augusta National is primarily a drive & putt show - I like the long hitters and streak putters. Therefore, Woods is not a bad bet.

Also, Augusta is setup for players who can hit draws off the tee. The course sets up nicely for lefties that can fade.

Are you still slicing your brassie C-Man? ;)

[Turd Ferguson]

(Shudder...)

I fear you may be correct, sadly.

My money's on Tits McGhee as well.

[wendersfan]

Duval's -1 after two holes! I think this is the first time he's been under par all year.

[Pharoh]

Duval's -1 after two holes! I think this is the first time he's been under par all year.


:banana:

Jumping out in front at -2

[Jeremy517]

Duval's -1 after two holes! I think this is the first time he's been under par all year.

<s>year</s> millenium

[B.A.]

Who cares about Duval! How's it look in HD?

:D

[wendersfan]

Who cares about Duval! How's it look in HD?

:DHow should I know? I'm at work... :lol:

[TheDude]

Who cares about Duval! How's it look in HD?

:D


Fucking spectacular! :D

[brizz]

Well, they're off! The first group started around 1:30 pm.

Billy Casper is +6 after two holes. Poor guy. Of course, Duval is about to start, so he could replace Casper at the bottom of the leaderboard. :lol:
He's now +28 after 14 :lol: Apparently he had a 14 on one hole...the largest score ever at Augusta.


Anyone see Tiger's PUT roll off into the creek on 13? crazy.

[wendersfan]

He's now +28 after 14 :lol: Apparently he had a 14 on one hole...the largest score ever at Augusta.
I feel bad laughing about it since the guy's a legend and he's in his 70s, but shit... It's rare that I would say I could outshoot someone, but I think I could shoot in the low 100s even at Augusta, so it would be close between me and ol' Billy.

[Red Dog]

Go DiMarco!!!!

So Billy Casper shot a 106, 34 over par. Ouch. Of course, that would be a great day for me. :lol:

[brizz]

It's hard to laugh to much at him in that respect. If I shot a 106 at Augusta from the blacks i'd be dancing all the way home.

I have to say that par Tiger made (on 4?) after hitting his drive barely 100 yds into the trees was one of the most impressive "bad holes" i've ever seen. No matter what, the guy is just fun to watch.

[wendersfan]

It's hard to laugh to much at him in that respect. If I shot a 106 at Augusta from the blacks i'd be dancing all the way home.

I have to say that par Tiger made (on 4?) after hitting his drive barely 100 yds into the trees was one of the most impressive "bad holes" i've ever seen. No matter what, the guy is just fun to watch.Tiger made par on number 2 (number 11 for him, since he started from the back nine). Great save.

I actually thought a long time last night over whether or not I could shoot a 106 at Augusta. Basically, that's double bogey golf. I'm about a 10 handicap, so it would be a tough call I think. I figure I could make most of the par 3s in regulation, and some of the par 5s. Those long par 4s, no way. :lol: It would all come down to how badly I'd putt, and I daresay I'd putt pretty badly on those fast Augusta greens. So I guess it's possible, but doubtful, not that I'll ever have the chance.

They've already started Round 2. I'll try to update as I have time.

[classicman2]

I believe with good knees again - I could shoot par at Augusta National. ;)

[classicman2]

BTW: You'll might tear yourself away from golf long enough tomorrow and watch the Santa Anita Derby & the Wood Memorial. You might even bet a dollar two on the races. :)

[brizz]

Tiger made par on number 2 (number 11 for him, since he started from the back nine). Great save.

I actually thought a long time last night over whether or not I could shoot a 106 at Augusta. Basically, that's double bogey golf. I'm about a 10 handicap, so it would be a tough call I think. I figure I could make most of the par 3s in regulation, and some of the par 5s. Those long par 4s, no way. :lol: It would all come down to how badly I'd putt, and I daresay I'd putt pretty badly on those fast Augusta greens. So I guess it's possible, but doubtful, not that I'll ever have the chance.

They've already started Round 2. I'll try to update as I have time.
yeah...220 yd par 3s and 470 yd par 4s would be a tad tougher....there's a course in Lansing that has a 610 yd par 5 that i parred once though...so I've got that going for me.

[Red Dog]

yeah...220 yd par 3s and 470 yd par 4s would be a tad tougher....there's a course in Lansing that has a 610 yd par 5 that i parred once though...so I've got that going for me.


610 yds! That's a 2 beer hole for me. ;)

[Red Dog]

Relative unknown David Howell (#50 in the world) is on fire today. -5 through 7 holes (back-9 first) to pull into a tie with Chris DiMarco.

[wendersfan]

ALERT: The second round of the Masters has been suspended due to inclement weather.

[Red Dog]

Relative unknown David Howell (#50 in the world) is on fire today. -5 through 7 holes (back-9 first) to pull into a tie with Chris DiMarco.


Luke Donald joined them at -5 before play was suspended.

[Quake1028]

ALERT: The second round of the Masters has been suspended due to inclement weather.

What a shock -rolleyes-!

[Red Dog]

They've suspended play for the rest of the day. Round 2 will resume at 8 am tomorrow.

Guess there is no need to rush home now.

[Quake1028]

They've suspended play for the rest of the day. Round 2 will resume at 8 am tomorrow.

Guess there is no need to rush home now.

A Monday finish?

[Jeremy517]

Only 10% chance of precipitation tomorrow and 0% for Sunday, so they should be able to make it up tomorrow. High of 71 tomorrow and 76 on Sunday.

[brizz]

if they are trying to catch up, why the late starts? they aren't teeing off until almost 10am tomorrow. they could have a good many through the first 9 by then if they started at 7-8.

[Red Dog]

A Monday finish?


Doubtful - weather looks fine from tomorrow on. They can easily squeeze in 54 holes over 2 days. They've done it before.

I saw that they were starting at 8 am. Maybe they want to give the course a chance to dry out a little with a later start time.

[Quake1028]

Doubtful - weather looks fine from tomorrow on. They can easily squeeze in 54 holes over 2 days. They've done it before.

I saw that they were starting at 8 am. Maybe they want to give the course a chance to dry out a little with a later start time.

Good to hear :up:. I was just concerned with the weather.

BTW, they just said they are starting at 8:30am.

[brizz]

yep...they changed the starts to 8:30 from close to 10....must have been after the second delay. even 8:30 seems a little late for them....should be plenty light out by 7am. oh well. I think with the early rounds followed by the cut, everyone should be able to get through 36 tomorrow so that Sunday will be a normal 18. they've done that plenty of times before.

[Red Dog]

Chris DiMarco is up to -8 and holds a 3 shot lead. :thumbsup:

[brizz]

Tiger's making a move too....down to -1 after one of the unluckiest rounds of golf I've ever seen.

[Quake1028]

Tiger to -4 for the day and -2 for the tournament.

[Red Dog]

Manboobs and Vijay move into a tie for 2nd at -4, 4 behind DiMarco. Let's go DiMarco!!!

[brizz]

Wow...Dimarco -10 now! Bjorn is second at -5 and Moobs, Singh and Woods are lurking at -3. Woods having a phenomenal round to get back in the mix.

[Quake1028]

Tiger at -6 on his round to move to 3rd place alone, but DiMarco just as hot, posting 67's in the opening 2 rounds and holds a 5 shot lead still.

Ryan Moore is having a hell of a round: 5 birdies, 2 bogeys and a double bogey. Still, he's -2 for the tournament.

[brizz]

do we really need a half hour moobs retrospective? SHOW THE LIVE PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheDude]

Did Duval make the cut? I would check the masters.org leaderboard, but it causes my computer to crash(??).

[kevin75]

duval was +8 so i don't think he made the cut.

[brizz]

Kind of lame how they didn't pair Tiger and Vijay together....

[B.A.]

The sound on the HD feed is awesome. Every time someone gets ready to take a drive we crank up the volume to listen to the swing. It's cool as hell.

[Red Dog]

Tiger got quite a break with the horn ending play.

Come on, DiMarco. 27 holes to hold that lead. Don't let me down!

[Red Dog]

Kind of lame how they didn't pair Tiger and Vijay together....


There is a set way to do the pairings. If 2 people finish tied after a round ends, the one who finishes that round first gets the later tee time the next round if there is an odd number of golfers ahead of them.

[lewisb73]

Here's hoping Tiger is held off over the final 27 holes... I hate listening to him being interviewed... he is an immense talent, which seems to be the one reason he is so popular, he seems to act like a baby whenever he does something wrong

Pesonally, I wosh Phil would get hot again a reel off a ton of birdies and win it again, although the chance of that happening is slim

[Red Dog]

Jesus Christ, DiMarco. What - did you go out and get tanked last night?! -ohbfrank- 41 (+5) on the back-9 Sunday morning. :mad:

Tiger at -11, up 3 shots after 3 rounds. It's over, folks.

[tommyp007]

Oh, If only CBS would go on the air early................

[Gallant Pig]

CBS blows goats. How can they not get this on the air? This would be ratings gold fer chrissakes.

Plus all those commercials blech, where's that feminist lady who protests when you need her? And all those SD cameras on the HD broadcast suck ass!

[Gallant Pig]

Here's hoping Tiger is held off over the final 27 holes... I hate listening to him being interviewed... he is an immense talent, which seems to be the one reason he is so popular, he seems to act like a baby whenever he does something wrong

Pesonally, I wosh Phil would get hot again a reel off a ton of birdies and win it again, although the chance of that happening is slim

If he did, he'd have a +5 on the final four to lose it. ;)

[Red Dog]

CBS blows goats. How can they not get this on the air? This would be ratings gold fer chrissakes.

Plus all those commercials blech, where's that feminist lady who protests when you need her? And all those SD cameras on the HD broadcast suck ass!


Don't blame CBS. You don't believe that they would kill to show 10 hours of Masters coverage each day? Blame Augusta National - they dictate the coverage. They have for 50+ years.

Also, keep in mind, that you will see full-18 hole final round coverage of the last 4 groups.

[Gallant Pig]

Can I at least blame CBS for the weak SD Cameras every other shot? ;)

[brizz]

what an amazing comeback by Tiger. And what a colossal collapse by Dimarco. I hope he pulls it together and keeps this interesting. I don't have much faith in "Potbunker" Bjorn doing much. As much as Anything, i bet fatigue is the biggest factor right now....and shows just how good a shape Tiger is in.

If only we could have watched some of it :(

[Red Dog]

Kind of lame how they didn't pair Tiger and Vijay together....


Well, you'll get the next best thing today - Vijay and Tittyboy are paired together today. Not that it matters.

[brizz]

Don't blame CBS. You don't believe that they would kill to show 10 hours of Masters coverage each day? Blame Augusta National - they dictate the coverage. They have for 50+ years.

Also, keep in mind, that you will see full-18 hole final round coverage of the last 4 groups.
So what is exactly does the Master's gain by not allowing earlier coverage? is there some study that shows multiple infomercials prior to the coverage increases ratings?

[Red Dog]

So what is exactly does the Master's gain by not allowing earlier coverage? is there some study that shows multiple infomercials prior to the coverage increases ratings?


Who knows. You'd have to ask an A.N. member. The Masters is a unique televised sports event. You do realize that The Masters pays CBS to broadcast the tournament and they are always 1-year deals. Usually it is the other way around (network pays sports entity for broadcast rights). Then Augusta National sells the commercial time.

[brizz]

Moobs needs to wear some Bondesque retractable spikes and walk in Vijay's line.....what a prick.

[Red Dog]

Tiger at -11, up 3 shots after 3 rounds. It's over, folks.


The big guns come out with nothing and DiMarco shows nothing with the putter. Yep, it's over.

[Red Dog]

DiMarco squanders 2 great chances. I suspect an implosion is coming.

[brizz]

DiMarco within 1 on the 12th. This is getting good. He yanked his tee shot though and is in trouble here.

[brizz]

make that back to a 2 shot lead. I honestly don't know how on earth Dimarco can put with that "claw" grip. it is the most awkward thing i've ever seen.

[brizz]

man what a great finish!

[das Monkey]

-eek--eek--eek--eek-

[wildcatlh]

:jawdrop:

Holy crap what a shot by Tiger.

[shizawn]

oh wow!

[Patman]

OMFG! What an amazing chip shot by Tiger on 16! I actually screamed "OH MY GOD! WOW!!!" (which scared the beejezus out of my 2 cats, of course).

[astrochimp]

Amazing shot.

[wildcatlh]

And DiMarco's missed birdie putt might've sealed it for Tiger.

[kevin75]

it will be interesting to see how tiger plays this shot off his errant drive. great shot on 16 by tiger and props the immelman for the ace.

[Patman]

Why did Tiger make his life so hard with that F'd drive on the 17th?

[Jeremy517]

<img src="http://www.europeantour.com/sps/imgstore/WizardImg/img01_000401.jpg">

I am Tiger Woods.

[das Monkey]

I say again ... -eek--eek--eek--eek-

das

[wildcatlh]

ohhhhh... so close for DiMarco.

[Dabaomb]

wow, tough miss by Dimarco.

[Tsar Chasm]

playoff time.

[wildcatlh]

Horrible putt by Tiger

[Jeremy517]

<img src="http://www.shark.com/images_art/gn_masters_99.jpg">

I am Tiger Woods.

[das Monkey]

Come on ......... YES!!

das

[Dabaomb]

that was a clutch putt.

[Jeremy517]

<img src="http://images.pgatour.com/players/images/headshots/132039.jpg">

I am Tiger Woods.

[the aftermath]

Tiger at -11, up 3 shots after 3 rounds. It's over, folks.
:lol:

[Tsar Chasm]

:lol:

It's not the journey, it's the destination. This is over. Tiger is #1 again.

[BigDaddy]

Tiger is # 1 even if he comes in second.

[Tsar Chasm]

I think I spoke too soon. DiMarco isn't folding this year.

[the aftermath]

Come on Tiger finish him!

[the aftermath]

Yessssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tsar Chasm]

Right on.

[kevin75]

nice finish by tiger. and HUGE praise for dimarco and his play today.

[das Monkey]

http://www.jsonline.com/golfplus/image/2001/jacket0408.jpg

Ahem ... <b>I</b> am Tiger Woods.

das

[the aftermath]

I take back the :lol:... But still.. ya know.. wow.

[wildcatlh]

Nice putt for Tiger... and the majors drought is over.

:up: to Tiger for recovering after his first round debacle, and :up: to DiMarco for doing what nobody else has really done before -- stand toe to toe with Tiger in the final pairing

[astrochimp]

Great tourney :)

[the aftermath]

DiMarco's trying not to cry :(

[Dabaomb]

great putt by Tiger

[Patman]

Wow, now that was a dogfight, with Tiger giving away strokes in the final 2 holes in regulation, but came up big with a strong putt to put it away in the first sudden death hole for his 4th green jacket.

Congrats to DiMarco for never giving up and putting together a really good final round after Tiger gained the 3-stroke advantage this morning finishing up the 3rd round.

Mickelson can't be all that happy to have to give Tiger another green jacket... :)

[the aftermath]

Mickelson can't be all that happy to have to give Tiger another green jacket... :)
Mickelson is like the Red Sox, he's finally happy he won. Now he can just ride into the sunset with his man boobs...

[Jeremy517]

http://www.jsonline.com/golfplus/image/2001/jacket0408.jpg

Ahem ... <b>I</b> am Tiger Woods.

das

Oops, you're right, that is Tiger. But Phil looks a lot different than I remember. :confused:

[Patman]

Damn, Tiger's wife is a hottie, looks better now than I had remembered from before.

[Gallant Pig]

Holy crap that was good stuff.

[Gallant Pig]

Why did Tiger make his life so hard with that F'd drive on the 17th?

I don't know if it's the equipment, but I wish Nike quit making their shitty drivers just so he didn't have any pressure to play them (even tho he says there is no pressure).

[Patman]

No kidding, Tiger had to re-invent his swing just to get them crap-ass Nike drivers to work good...

[Red Dog]

Bets are in:

Darren Clarke 45-1
Chris DiMarco 55-1
Miguel Angel Jimenez 80-1


Future Wager 04/06/05 15:10 ET
8.00/440.00 Result: WAGER LOST
The 2005 Masters - Odds To Win (ALL BETS ACTION)
Chris DiMarco 04/07/05 (08:00 ET) 55-1

-ohbfrank-

Fuck you Tiger. Pulling that lucky bullshit on 16. Nike must be thrilled - how many commercials are we going to see in the next few months with that Nike ball taking one last rotation on the fall in.

[Red Dog]

DiMarco's trying not to cry :(

I tried. I failed.

[Patman]

Nike: the Ball with Bite!

[brizz]

That was just awesome. What a great final round. :up: to Dimarco for pulling it together and taking Tiger to the Ropes......simply awesome.

So now it's Jack, Arnie, and Tiger with 4 or more. Will he pass Jack? Only 29 years old. Amazing. So much for being washed up. That 370 yd drive he hit a bit earlier was insane. not too mention outdriving DiMarco with his 3 wood.

[brizz]

-ohbfrank-

Fuck you Tiger. Pulling that lucky bullshit on 16. Nike must be thrilled - how many commercials are we going to see in the next few months with that Nike ball taking one last rotation on the fall in.
Ah, the poor gambler trivializes one of the greatest shots in Masters history because he lost :( That was an incredible effort....one of the greatest of all time. suck it up ;)

[Gallant Pig]

Ah, the poor gambler trivializes one of the greatest shots in Masters history because he lost :( That was an incredible effort....one of the greatest of all time. suck it up ;)

I bet C-Man is in even rougher shape. :D

[garyb]

Just got back. Course was very muddy for patrons (and smelled heavily of manure in some spots). Lots of fun.

[Red Dog]

Ah, the poor gambler trivializes one of the greatest shots in Masters history because he lost :( That was an incredible effort....one of the greatest of all time. suck it up ;)


What was the incredible effort? That one shot or going bogey-bogey on 17 and 18 with a 2 shot lead? ;)

[zekeburger1979]

Damn, Tiger's wife is a hottie, looks better now than I had remembered from before.

She has a identical twin sister. Makes my head almost explode! :)

Terrific final round. Tiger 2005 isn't the Tiger of old. Old Tiger would have stomped all over DiMarco on 17 and 18.

That was cool of Tiger to acknowledge his dad and dedicate it to him during the ceremony. I wonder how nervous Ryan Moore had to be, being in the same room with Tiger and Phil?

Add that chip by Tiger to the short list of clips that will be played over and over again in the years to come.

[Jeremy517]

Terrific final round. Tiger 2005 isn't the Tiger of old. Old Tiger would have stomped all over DiMarco on 17 and 18.

And a few other holes on the back nine. He hit numerous bad shots (for Tiger) on the back nine.

[wendersfan]

Really exciting final day. I don't think I've ever seen anyone win a major while playing as poorly as Woods did in the final round.

[Red Dog]

Really exciting final day. I don't think I've ever seen anyone win a major while playing as poorly as Woods did in the final round.


You must have a short memory. How about Vijay winning the PGA last August. He didn't birdie a single hole in the final round until the playoff.

[wendersfan]

You must have a short memory. How about Vijay winning the PGA last August. He didn't birdie a single hole in the final round until the playoff.Just defective, actually. Right after I posted that message I thought, "hey, didn't Singh stink it up last year at Whistling Straits?"

Oh well.

[classicman2]

I bet C-Man is in even rougher shape. :D

Why?

I've always said - and said again in a previous post on this very thread - that Woods is a good bet on any drive & putt course. The Augusta National is such a course.

This Masters is probably the first time in my lifetime that I didn't see a single hole played on television. I spent the weekend in Hot Springs, Arkansas, at beautiful Oaklawn Park.

Like Red Dog wagering on the Masters, I didn't have much luck with the ponies this past weekend. Nice weekend though.

[El Scorcho]

Why is everybody so quick to blame Tiger's errant shots on the equipment. It was quite obvious by his swing on some of his tee-shots that he could have been playing any manufacturer's driver and it would have sailed right. He was opening up his swing waaaay too early.

What he needs to do is forget trying to hit it 350 yards and instead dial it back a bit, "settle" for hitting it 300-310 down the middle. If he even hits a few more fairways yesterday, DiMarco wouldn't have been close to a playoff.

[Gallant Pig]

Why is everybody so quick to blame Tiger's errant shots on the equipment. It was quite obvious by his swing on some of his tee-shots that he could have been playing any manufacturer's driver and it would have sailed right. He was opening up his swing waaaay too early.

What he needs to do is forget trying to hit it 350 yards and instead dial it back a bit, "settle" for hitting it 300-310 down the middle. If he even hits a few more fairways yesterday, DiMarco wouldn't have been close to a playoff.


I just don't see him as a 45" graphite shaft kinda guy. That same style of driver got Phil in lots of trouble also when he was going huge but foul balled it a lot.

[wendersfan]

Why is everybody so quick to blame Tiger's errant shots on the equipment. It was quite obvious by his swing on some of his tee-shots that he could have been playing any manufacturer's driver and it would have sailed right. He was opening up his swing waaaay too early.A lot of people hate Nike and resent their "sudden" success and market share. I'm not a big fan of the company myself, but whatever works. Some of their golf balls are nice, but all the irons and wedges I've seen from them looked ugly and awkward looking. I suppose the forged blades Woods is using are pretty nice, but I can't imagine <i>I'd</i> ever play them...

[El Scorcho]

I just don't see him as a 45" graphite shaft kinda guy. That same style of driver got Phil in lots of trouble also when he was going huge but foul balled it a lot.

Me neither. I don't think he needs the extra distance myself. But the point still stands. He could be using a driver from the '60s and still put those balls off to the right with the way he was opening up his swing way too early on some of those balls he sailed to the right. Especially his tee shot on 17.

Everybody is praising him for his shot on 16 (which they should), but his tee shot on 17 was one of the WORST drives I've ever seen under pressure from someone who's supposed to be so clutch. His tee shot on #18 wasn't so peachy either.

Hypothetically, I think if DiMarco gets an 18-hole playoff against Woods instead of a sudden death playoff, DiMarco wins by 2-3 strokes.

[wendersfan]

Hypothetically, I think if DiMarco gets an 18-hole playoff against Woods instead of a sudden death playoff, DiMarco wins by 2-3 strokes.Maybe. Probably. But I haven't read anyone giving DiMarco shit for his approach to the 18th green in the playoff. He has basically the same approach he left short on the 18th ten minutes before (I think the ball was maybe 10 yards closer to the green, if that), and what does he do? Takes one club <i>less</i> and leaves that one short, too. I'm really confused at what he was trying to do with the 7 iron in his hands.

[Patrick G]

Does anyone have video of Tiger's shot on the 16th?

[LorenzoL]

LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) The final round of the 2004 Masters saw Phil Mickelson finally get his first win at a major, but thanks to the absence of a certain Mr. Tiger Woods, it failed to attract big ratings. Woods won his fourth Masters green jacket on Sunday (April 10) and helped boost CBS' overnight 2005 Masters ratings by a whopping 41 percent.
Sunday's final round, which saw Woods and Chris DiMarco go head-to-head for 18 holes and then into a sudden death playoff, did a 10.3 rating/21 share for CBS in metered market overnights. Those numbers were up significantly from 2004, when the final round did a 7.3/18.

The early figures were the best since CBS went to 18-hole coverage in 2002 and it was the tournament's highest rated final round since 2001. That year, which saw Woods beat David Duval by two strokes, had a 12.9/27 for its last round.

Because the golf action ran extra long, CBS' fast national primetime ratings also got a bump, with "60 Minutes" doing a 12.7/23, though those number will likely change when final figures become available.

[wendersfan]

I doubt the ratings would have been so high if DiMarco had folded on the back nine.

[Luddy]

A lot of people hate Nike and resent their "sudden" success and market share. I'm not a big fan of the company myself, but whatever works. Some of their golf balls are nice, but all the irons and wedges I've seen from them looked ugly and awkward looking. I suppose the forged blades Woods is using are pretty nice, but I can't imagine <i>I'd</i> ever play them...

Tiger uses Nike irons that were very similar to his Titleists, they were designed by Phil Sykes. What's different is the Nike swoosh and a more square clubhead? He signed with Titleist while playing MP-14s. Mizuno irons use to be forged by Miura. Miura use to also make TM and Nike forged clubs but stopped, and the MP-33s are copies of the old John Letters blades from the 50's which Mizuno now own rights to. etc. etc. So in the end, you realize its just a hunk of metal melted down and rebadged over the years.

I don't play Nike! ;)

[wendersfan]

Most people who play blades and aren't getting paid to play a specific brand play Mizunos. I would guess that's what I would be playing too, if I were less than a 5 handicap.

[classicman2]

I don't know what clubs a tour player has in his bags, and that includes Woods.

I do know that the brand logo on his bag can misleading as hell.

[El Scorcho]

<--- plays Mizuno blades

Why the fuck aren't I a pro. :mad:

OH yeah, because I don't play in the winters and only play once a week in the summers.

[Luddy]

I have Mizzy 30's and 33's. Sometimes I hit them and can't even feel the ball.

I received Jim Thorpe's Mizuno TZoid 8.5 Tour Driver today. $21.50 off ebay. He had a True Temper DG S flex shaft and Royal corded grip installed. It doesn't look like he keeps his clubs in good condition. :lol:

Woods is using a Diamana 83X matte blue shaft in his driver. Mitsubishi Rayon Diamana 103X shaft in his 3 wood. Mitsubishi?

I heard Mickleson was using a Hogan ball with a Callaway logo. But I'm not sure how you can tell.

[Turd Ferguson]

I just got back home after seeing the 3rd and 4th rounds. I'm tired and a bit sunburned but it was awesome. We sat just behind the rope on the 12th tee box on Saturday and on Sunday, we sat just behind the rope on the 9th green, then on the rope behind the fairway just in front of 18 for the finish. My wife saw us on when they panned the crowds along the fairways during the playoff. A few random impressions after four days, 1100 miles on my Civic, and four cigars:

1.) Tiger Woods is a stone cold, ice veined killer on the course.

2.) After two days of rain, the spectator pathways around the course were like the streets of Deadwood. It takes a lot of horseshit to make that course so green and when it rains, it comes back up.

3.) Augusta Nation is VERY hilly.

4.) You could deal a game of Texas Hold-Em on those greens.

5.) Dick Enberg is not so genial when you block his golf cart path.

6.) Tiger Woods drives himself around during the tournement. I know because he almost ran over my toes on Washington Avenue in his pimped out Buick courtesy car.

[classicman2]

3.) Augusta Nation is VERY hilly.

I didn't find it so. I've been there 3 times - watched 2 Masters.

It's a pretty course with lots of tradition and fast, sloping greens.

[classicman2]

BTW: As I say I saw none of the tournament. Were they playing winter rules?

[Turd Ferguson]

I didn't find it so. I've been there 3 times - watched 2 Masters.

It's a pretty course with lots of tradition and fast, sloping greens.

It certainly seemed hilly, especially with the slick layer of mud on most of the pathways. One of the gallery officials told us that seven people were treated for sprains and broken legs between Thursday and Sunday. I saw at least three people wipe out in the rush for prime spots Sunday morning.

[Gallant Pig]

BTW: As I say I saw none of the tournament. Were they playing winter rules?

No.

[garyb]

It certainly seemed hilly, especially with the slick layer of mud on most of the pathways. One of the gallery officials told us that seven people were treated for sprains and broken legs between Thursday and Sunday. I saw at least three people wipe out in the rush for prime spots Sunday morning.

Probably the people in high heels. -screwy-

[twikoff]

great win for tiger sunday :up:

we had just moved into our new house.. and we had a ton of people over for a barbeque... after tiger on the 12th.. i ended up outside playing baseball with all the kids and missing the rest, while all the other guys stayed inside and watched :mad:

[dick_grayson]

anyone have a link to the shot at 16?

[HN]

anyone have a link to the shot at 16?
http://www.jaffejuice.com/2005/04/tiger_did_it_ak.html

[dick_grayson]

http://www.jaffejuice.com/2005/04/tiger_did_it_ak.html

thanks :)